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"Why shouldn't single guys be able to get a veri by cam? What makes single women and couples so fantastic that they can be verified by cam... yet you imply that single guys can't?? " | |||
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"I think that it perfectly fine that a single guy can be verified by cam. BUT, what are you verifying? That this single bloke is really a single bloke and not a couple or single female pretending, in order to drastically reduce their chances of getting a meet? REALLY??" I'm being really thick sorry as I don't get what you mean  | |||
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"Why shouldn't single guys be able to get a veri by cam? What makes single women and couples so fantastic that they can be verified by cam... yet you imply that single guys can't?? "Was thinking the same thing... | |||
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"I think that it perfectly fine that a single guy can be verified by cam. BUT, what are you verifying? That this single bloke is really a single bloke and not a couple or single female pretending, in order to drastically reduce their chances of getting a meet? REALLY??" I won't cam-verify single blokes. As Rain says, what could I say? " He says he's a bloke and he looks like a bloke to me"? That is not at all useful, as no-one ever pretends to be a single guy! Apart from married men! And I ain't gonna risk accidentally verifying a married man as a 'single man'! | |||
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"I think that it perfectly fine that a single guy can be verified by cam. BUT, what are you verifying? That this single bloke is really a single bloke and not a couple or single female pretending, in order to drastically reduce their chances of getting a meet? REALLY?? I won't cam-verify single blokes. As Rain says, what could I say? " He says he's a bloke and he looks like a bloke to me"? That is not at all useful, as no-one ever pretends to be a single guy! Apart from married men! And I ain't gonna risk accidentally verifying a married man as a 'single man'! " So it's ok to verify a single fem who could possibly be a married fem or in fact a couple who are married but not to each other. Yep that's fair | |||
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"Shouldn't be a difference really. I'm photo verified but not green tick but if I spoke to someone in cam the verify is to prove I am a really guy. As said before what's to stop women lying about the marital status" Nah see woman and couples never lie do they  | |||
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"Nah see woman and couples never lie do they "Nope they the definition of angels | |||
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" Here is an answer from Admin about cam veri's for men. http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/179460 FAQ is still as written in 2006 before we ran the site. Way it works is as it always has been. Yes, there is an inconsistency here! We made it slightly better by removing phone verification for all. This (verified by cam etc.) is partly the reason why we introduced facility to search for those with meets. Personally, we would be inclined to remove ability to verify males via webcam but it would rightly be met be outrage - why one rule for one account type than another. Admin x" And on that note who wants to cam veri me haha. But in all fairness should be a different system as it to just verify your real and some people can still lie even on face to face meet. Just as bad when see single female accounts and the state partner to watch or join, why not just sign as couple.  | |||
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"I am not saying single men shouldn't be verified by cam. I don't go i chat, so I don't get asked to do veri's. I do however look in here and the mods often post to say 'single women and couples should go into chat to get cam verified'. Never anyone or single men. (see other posts in this very forum) I asked for clarification because I was asked away from the site (at a club) and non of us knew the answer. " Apologies... your post made it sound like you didn't think it was ok for single guys, not that it was just a query. | |||
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"I think that it perfectly fine that a single guy can be verified by cam. BUT, what are you verifying? That this single bloke is really a single bloke and not a couple or single female pretending, in order to drastically reduce their chances of getting a meet? REALLY?? I won't cam-verify single blokes. As Rain says, what could I say? " He says he's a bloke and he looks like a bloke to me"? That is not at all useful, as no-one ever pretends to be a single guy! Apart from married men! And I ain't gonna risk accidentally verifying a married man as a 'single man'! " | |||
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"I am not saying single men shouldn't be verified by cam. I don't go i chat, so I don't get asked to do veri's. I do however look in here and the mods often post to say 'single women and couples should go into chat to get cam verified'. Never anyone or single men. (see other posts in this very forum) I asked for clarification because I was asked away from the site (at a club) and non of us knew the answer. Apologies... your post made it sound like you didn't think it was ok for single guys, not that it was just a query." No worries, I did say for clarification, It seems men can be verified by cam, however, this site does not encourage it. That's where the confusion is though. Women & couples always get told to go into chat to be verified. Men are always told to get the couple/woman they met to go into chat to get verified. Or got to a social, or meet someone verified to get (green tick verified) And yet men do get (green tick) verified in chat/by cam also. Posts always go off on a random so I expected that. It's just confusing when here on the forums the 'rules' are advised differently. | |||
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"I would verify by cam a single guy to say he does look like his pictures." Only useful if he has them on display! 
Personally I've never seen the point in cam veri's - proves someone exists and owns a webcam - not that they're interested in meeting, are polite and respectful and actually turn up to meets when they say!
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"I would verify by cam a single guy to say he does look like his pictures. Only useful if he has them on display!
Personally I've never seen the point in cam veri's - proves someone exists and owns a webcam - not that they're interested in meeting, are polite and respectful and actually turn up to meets when they say!
But that's just me! "I think all veri's are pretty pointless really. They say someone turned up for *that* meet. They can't possibly prove that the person would turn up for another meet.... | |||
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"I would verify by cam a single guy to say he does look like his pictures. Only useful if he has them on display!
Personally I've never seen the point in cam veri's - proves someone exists and owns a webcam - not that they're interested in meeting, are polite and respectful and actually turn up to meets when they say!
But that's just me!
I think all veri's are pretty pointless really. They say someone turned up for *that* meet. They can't possibly prove that the person would turn up for another meet.... " | |||
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"I its not whether his married or single! Its whether his playing as a single! This is not a dating site" | |||
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"I its not whether his married or single! Its whether his playing as a single! This is not a dating site" It's a site for people to use however they want as long as it's within the rules. I don't think I've seen a rule saying people can't use it to date if that's what they want to do. | |||
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"We seem to forget that we are here to have fun. All this talk about verify or not make no sense. No matter how someone is verified, he or her can still be a massive time waster. " And there you have it , I just don't see why people need to rely on what others have to say about them when making their mind up whether they want to meet them or not. | |||
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"I have the simplest and easiest suggestion: make all the different types of verifications colour coded. Sample: Purple = Photo Verification (If it looks like a duck) Black = Phone Verification (no signal black spots here!) Blue = Cam Verification (chea p blue movie) Orange = Social Meet (getting warmer!) Green = Play Meet (woohoo!) This way, if anyone only has one type you can tell by the colour, assuming the person chooses not to display their verifications. If the email system can now be colour coded then simple verification ticks can as well. This way it does not matter whether male, female, couple, tv/ts,... The downside ofcourse is this idea is WAY too simple.. meaning admin will no doubt ignore it. How do I know? I've suggested it a few times over the last 5 years, and its been ignored everytime "Yep I can see this would work however for me it just gives over more information than I want. I have been verified, I admit to people I don't use them or give them ( unless a guy is unverified) however some people have taken their time to do one for me. I don't want people knowing what I have done it's my business. What I would really like is for the whole blooming veri system to be done away with therefore making people actually use their own common sense when arranging meets but hey that ain't going to happen. | |||
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"Have to say we think the verification system is required. We like to know that people we look to meet DO meet. We appreciate it is still open to abuse as we ourselves have been caught out a couple of times(embarrassingly the bloke had a 'cock to die for' which was about 4 inch and almost never hard) but we do feel that verifications by phone or camera are not worth the space used to write them. We prefer to see several veris by meet, by different folk as this does tend to show us that the guys will show and deliver to at least a reasonable standard! Verifications by meet, or bust!!! " | |||
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"Have to say we think the verification system is required. We like to know that people we look to meet DO meet. We appreciate it is still open to abuse as we ourselves have been caught out a couple of times(embarrassingly the bloke had a 'cock to die for' which was about 4 inch and almost never hard) but we do feel that verifications by phone it can are not worth the space used to write them. We prefer to see several veris by meet, by different folk as this does tend to show us that the guys will show and deliver to at least a reasonable standard! Verifications by meet, or bust!!! "So how did you get your first meet then? If everyone did the same then no one would ever meet due to not having a veri by meeting | |||
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"I have the simplest and easiest suggestion: make all the different types of verifications colour coded. Sample: Purple = Photo Verification (If it looks like a duck) Black = Phone Verification (no signal black spots here!) Blue = Cam Verification (chea p blue movie) Orange = Social Meet (getting warmer!) Green = Play Meet (woohoo!) This way, if anyone only has one type you can tell by the colour, assuming the person chooses not to display their verifications. If the email system can now be colour coded then simple verification ticks can as well. This way it does not matter whether male, female, couple, tv/ts,... The downside ofcourse is this idea is WAY too simple.. meaning admin will no doubt ignore it. How do I know? I've suggested it a few times over the last 5 years, and its been ignored everytime
Yep I can see this would work however for me it just gives over more information than I want. I have been verified, I admit to people I don't use them or give them ( unless a guy is unverified) however some people have taken their time to do one for me. I don't want people knowing what I have done it's my business. What I would really like is for the whole blooming veri system to be done away with therefore making people actually use their own common sense when arranging meets but hey that ain't going to happen. "
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"Have to say we think the verification system is required. We like to know that people we look to meet DO meet. We appreciate it is still open to abuse as we ourselves have been caught out a couple of times(embarrassingly the bloke had a 'cock to die for' which was about 4 inch and almost never hard) but we do feel that verifications by phone it can are not worth the space used to write them. We prefer to see several veris by meet, by different folk as this does tend to show us that the guys will show and deliver to at least a reasonable standard! Verifications by meet, or bust!!!
So how did you get your first meet then? If everyone did the same then no one would ever meet due to not having a veri by meeting "By making sure they were verified lol Verifications by meet, by different profiles do verify that they have met and that they've participated in one form or another. This may have escaped the attention of some folk but this IS a swinging site, it is described as such, not as a voyeurs site. Hence why we want to meet people who will turn up. Of course we appreciate that newbies prob won't be verified but then that's up to them to write mails that will be read and leave folk with a good feeling about them; but if you've been on for 6-12 months and still haven't met, like a lot of other swingers do, we smell a rat! | |||
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"Have to say we think the verification system is required. We like to know that people we look to meet DO meet. We appreciate it is still open to abuse as we ourselves have been caught out a couple of times(embarrassingly the bloke had a 'cock to die for' which was about 4 inch and almost never hard) but we do feel that verifications by phone it can are not worth the space used to write them. We prefer to see several veris by meet, by different folk as this does tend to show us that the guys will show and deliver to at least a reasonable standard! Verifications by meet, or bust!!!
So how did you get your first meet then? If everyone did the same then no one would ever meet due to not having a veri by meeting
By making sure they were verified lol
Verifications by meet, by different profiles do verify that they have met and that they've participated in one form or another.
This may have escaped the attention of some folk but this IS a swinging site, it is described as such, not as a voyeurs site. Hence why we want to meet people who will turn up. Of course we appreciate that newbies prob won't be verified but then that's up to them to write mails that will be read and leave folk with a good feeling about them; but if you've been on for 6-12 months and still haven't met, like a lot of other swingers do, we smell a rat!"So someone who was verified gave you the benefit of doubt and met you. How could they I mean how dare people give unverified a chance. How do you know those that have been on months and havnt had a meet veri arnt actually meeting every night of the week but prefer discretion over a veri? The site allows people to use it the best way for them and I think too many people spend time worrying about how others chose to use it and not how they use it. | |||
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"there is one single(??) guy on here who only has web cam verifications, no real meets, so guess he is a timewaster when he talks about meeting in person!! oh yeah and been here for over a year "And this bothers you why? It's simple really, if a profile doesn't suit you then move on. Use the tools provided to find the ones that do and allow others to use site way they want. | |||
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" And this bothers you why? It's simple really, if a profile doesn't suit you then move on. Use the tools provided to find the ones that do and allow others to use site way they want. " I suppose that is what the people who think verifications are important to them are doing...using the site as they want. | |||
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" And this bothers you why? It's simple really, if a profile doesn't suit you then move on. Use the tools provided to find the ones that do and allow others to use site way they want. I suppose that is what the people who think verifications are important to them are doing...using the site as they want. "Lol bang to rights there  | |||
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"there is one single(??) guy on here who only has web cam verifications, no real meets, so guess he is a timewaster when he talks about meeting in person!! oh yeah and been here for over a year
And this bothers you why? It's simple really, if a profile doesn't suit you then move on. Use the tools provided to find the ones that do and allow others to use site way they want. "yes but he keeps messaging about meeting up with us! | |||
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"there is one single(??) guy on here who only has web cam verifications, no real meets, so guess he is a timewaster when he talks about meeting in person!! oh yeah and been here for over a year
And this bothers you why? It's simple really, if a profile doesn't suit you then move on. Use the tools provided to find the ones that do and allow others to use site way they want.
yes but he keeps messaging about meeting up with us!"Block and move on. | |||
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"Surely it would be better to spend two minutes updating the FAQ's and putting the question to bed once and for all. " Thats kind of my thinking if I'm honest. Single men get it rough enough on here and I've done a number of coffee meets JUST to verify someone, when all they had to do was stick their mugs into chat
I'VE never had a cam veri. I meet people in clubs, they ask me to verify them. I was verified by people I met in clubs so I dont buy the argument against a different colour tick for met in person.
Yes everyone uses this site differently, however web cam veri's mean less than nothing to me. I am a flesh on flesh person, I dont see whats wrong with having a very quick sign on a profile to say yes has met in person. Whether they display veri's or not.
It would save men getting fed up of me asking to see their veri's, on their profile and me declining those 'claiming met in person verified'..... when actually they are not. | |||
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"I think that it perfectly fine that a single guy can be verified by cam. BUT, what are you verifying? That this single bloke is really a single bloke and not a couple or single female pretending, in order to drastically reduce their chances of getting a meet? REALLY?? I won't cam-verify single blokes. As Rain says, what could I say? " He says he's a bloke and he looks like a bloke to me"? That is not at all useful, as no-one ever pretends to be a single guy! Apart from married men! And I ain't gonna risk accidentally verifying a married man as a 'single man'! So it's ok to verify a single fem who could possibly be a married fem or in fact a couple who are married but not to each other. Yep that's fair "Just to hop back a couple of days.... and I know that the thread has moved on .... but you will see from my post that I say that I (as in ME - PERSONALLY!) - I won't cam verify a single man. Other people can do as they wish! I don't meet single females or couples for sex, but I will do a 'social' verification if I've met them, in the same way as I will do a social verification for single men who I've met in person. True, the single man/lady could be married, or the couple could be married to someone else (not the person they were with), but I ain't gonna ask for a marriage certificate! I very rarely give cam-verifications at all, for the above reasons. However, given the number of single males who come into Chat saying 'please verify me, it will give me a much better chance of success on Fab?', my answer is always 'no'. Biology means there are a vast number of unverified males, and there is a reason why many people DON'T want to meet them. Fab has tools which enable males-unverified-by-meet to be 'ed out', but that is an extra step in their search process. An extra step which may be overlooked by new members. I am not going to cam-verify single males - "he says he's a bloke and he looks like a bloke". What good is that to anyone? Everyone else can use Fab's tools the way they like. But I ain't going to cam-verify a single bloke. | |||
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"The advanced search lets you search for people with meet verifications "Assuming I go looking for them. If I come across someone on the forum and go to mooch or if my filters are off for a little while and they come into my inbox.... what good is a new search function there? I respect some just want to experience cam erm adventures. Some of us dont. For me swinging is about actually meeting other people and even sometimes sex | |||
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"Hi can I get some clarification please? My understanding was women or couples (both parts) can be verified on cam, and get their green tick. Now I've seen posts from mods stating women and couples can go into chat and asked to be verified, and yet a number of 'single men' profiles are verified by cam and only by cam and have the green tick. I know the old phone system was scrapped, however I am seeing single men verified by cam yesterday and today so this isn't a case of was verified on cam before any changes and if this isn't allowed anymore can it be stopped?" Men can get verified to, and why shouldn't they if showing face to prove they are who say they are, why should they be treated differently to ladies and couples | |||
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"The advanced search lets you search for people with meet verifications
Assuming I go looking for them.
If I come across someone on the forum and go to mooch or if my filters are off for a little while and they come into my inbox.... what good is a new search function there?
I respect some just want to experience cam erm adventures. Some of us dont.
For me swinging is about actually meeting other people and even sometimes sex "I don't get what you are saying then if you take your filters off and you look at forum profiles | |||
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"The advanced search lets you search for people with meet verifications
Assuming I go looking for them.
If I come across someone on the forum and go to mooch or if my filters are off for a little while and they come into my inbox.... what good is a new search function there?
I respect some just want to experience cam erm adventures. Some of us dont.
For me swinging is about actually meeting other people and even sometimes sex
I don't get what you are saying then if you take your filters off and you look at forum profiles "If a green tick means met in person, an for arguments sake, a red tick means cam veri's; then whether I look at a profile from a forum post, or from my inbox. I can see if they meet in person. Finding someone/a profile from searching is all well and good for search with met in person veri's. But that doesn't help on profiles I come across from the forum or in my inbox. | |||
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"The advanced search lets you search for people with meet verifications
Assuming I go looking for them.
If I come across someone on the forum and go to mooch or if my filters are off for a little while and they come into my inbox.... what good is a new search function there?
I respect some just want to experience cam erm adventures. Some of us dont.
For me swinging is about actually meeting other people and even sometimes sex "It is your choice what you do with the site and how you use it, I don't believe I said otherwise. I wouldn't dream of saying you had to take a minute out from reading the forum to go check out wether someone fits with your criteria, but if you wanted to know if someone had a meet veri the option is there. | |||
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"Hi can I get some clarification please? My understanding was women or couples (both parts) can be verified on cam, and get their green tick. Now I've seen posts from mods stating women and couples can go into chat and asked to be verified, and yet a number of 'single men' profiles are verified by cam and only by cam and have the green tick. I know the old phone system was scrapped, however I am seeing single men verified by cam yesterday and today so this isn't a case of was verified on cam before any changes and if this isn't allowed anymore can it be stopped?" Generally I'm suspicious of any verification that doesn't involve a meet - especially if the person's has been here for months | |||
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"The advanced search lets you search for people with meet verifications
Assuming I go looking for them.
If I come across someone on the forum and go to mooch or if my filters are off for a little while and they come into my inbox.... what good is a new search function there?
I respect some just want to experience cam erm adventures. Some of us dont.
For me swinging is about actually meeting other people and even sometimes sex
It is your choice what you do with the site and how you use it, I don't believe I said otherwise.
I wouldn't dream of saying you had to take a minute out from reading the forum to go check out wether someone fits with your criteria, but if you wanted to know if someone had a meet veri the option is there. "Nope, that's the point. If they dont display the veri's then the option is not there. The only way to list those that have met in person veri's is the new search option. Meaning, I would have to note down their age, location,user name and go do a search and scroll through the results for their profile (If it came up) A user name search cant be done for 'met in person', so if I looked at say 5 profiles, I'd have to do 5 searches. If I'm searching anyways I might as well just do a search and take pot luck | |||
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"Hi can I get some clarification please? My understanding was women or couples (both parts) can be verified on cam, and get their green tick. Now I've seen posts from mods stating women and couples can go into chat and asked to be verified, and yet a number of 'single men' profiles are verified by cam and only by cam and have the green tick. I know the old phone system was scrapped, however I am seeing single men verified by cam yesterday and today so this isn't a case of was verified on cam before any changes and if this isn't allowed anymore can it be stopped? Generally I'm suspicious of any verification that doesn't involve a meet - especially if the person's has been here for months " They might be choosy & limited on the time they have to play. A few months on here according to other threads I've read isn't very long at all. Besides I've met a few guys on social meets, we didn't click so therefore I didn't veri them vice versa...... | |||
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"The advanced search lets you search for people with meet verifications
Assuming I go looking for them.
If I come across someone on the forum and go to mooch or if my filters are off for a little while and they come into my inbox.... what good is a new search function there?
I respect some just want to experience cam erm adventures. Some of us dont.
For me swinging is about actually meeting other people and even sometimes sex
It is your choice what you do with the site and how you use it, I don't believe I said otherwise.
I wouldn't dream of saying you had to take a minute out from reading the forum to go check out wether someone fits with your criteria, but if you wanted to know if someone had a meet veri the option is there.
Nope, that's the point. If they dont display the veri's then the option is not there.
The only way to list those that have met in person veri's is the new search option.
"The search option is what I am talking about as in my original post about searches and not what is displayed on profiles. ( The search is not a new feature though, it has been there ages ) Either way, I am not wanting to get involved in the discussion , I was just pointing out if people want to find people with "meet" veri's only they can. | |||
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