FabSwingers.com forum: Banded from Messaging

By *uncouple3030 OP Couple
2 weeks ago

Belfast

Hi Fab, Whats this nonsense about baning people for mentioning other websites. No warning nothing just banded from messaging for 24 hours. If only you banned the fakes and timewasters so quickly. Rant over.

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By *uperstar76Woman
2 weeks ago

North Lanarkshire

Might not have been a website it also states there are banned words and phrases.. thems the rules im afraid

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By *uncouple3030 OP Couple
2 weeks ago

Belfast

It wasn’t either it was a chat group that ends in gram. We are ok with not being able to use the words. But no warming, just a 24 hour ban as we were mid conversation with someone. A warming to say not to do it again or you get a ban would be much better.

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By *igYin n CowGirlCouple
2 weeks ago

New Cumnock

"Hi Fab, Whats this nonsense about baning people for mentioning other websites. No warning nothing just banded from messaging for 24 hours. If only you banned the fakes and timewasters so quickly. Rant over. "

There IS warning, there are chat rules that you are advised to read, if you didn't and got banned, that's on you. Mentioning other websites are against the rules you should have read, as its your responsibility.

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By *igYin n CowGirlCouple
2 weeks ago

New Cumnock

"It wasn’t either it was a chat group that ends in gram. We are ok with not being able to use the words. But no warming, just a 24 hour ban as we were mid conversation with someone. A warming to say not to do it again or you get a ban would be much better. "

That all depends on the mod you get, some warn, some don't. take it up with admin.

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By *uperstar76Woman
2 weeks ago

North Lanarkshire

That all depends on the mod you get, some warn, some don't. take it up with admin. "

Mods have nothing to do with it, its an automatic filter that kicks in and sets the ban

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Central

Due to the high volume of users and chats, Fab uses automated content monitoring, with some words, phrases and content, as well as URLs that aren't Fab owned, getting restricted in real time, resulting in message bans. They continue to become automatically cleared after a further couple of hours, unless you have been notified of anything different.

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By *rectus HumongusMan
2 weeks ago

uranus

The rules are there from when you or amyone joins, I think giving warnings defeats the object of rules.

In this instance you are fault

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By *ugby 123Couple
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2 weeks ago

O o O oo

The ban in mails normally lifts after two hours

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By *eve500Man
2 weeks ago

Leeds

Maybe it was your spelling? 😁

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By *oobaaMan
2 weeks ago

Sth Tyne

I know certain words flag up if you are doing a story, does that not happen on messaging?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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2 weeks ago

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It does yes

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By (user no longer on site)
2 weeks ago

Slightly off-topic, but the thread raises a wider question worth airing.

Fab's privacy policy is actually pretty solid, no marketing spam, account deletion is permanent, and they're upfront that messages can be reviewed if there's a complaint or report. Fair enough, and I appreciate the moderation effort that goes into keeping the nutcases out.

That said, once folk have actually connected and are comfortable with each other, the inability to even hint at moving the conversation to a more private, encrypted channel or an alternative platform feels less like protection and more like platform retention dressed up as safety. We are all grownups here, and discretion is a core part of this lifestyle. Trusting people to manage that step themselves wouldn't be unreasonable.

Not having a go at the mods, automated filters at scale are a blunt instrument by necessity. Just an observation that the line between keeping site users safe and keeping users onsite is a fine one, and worth being honest about.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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2 weeks ago

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Undesirable users ask people to go to outside messaging APPs so it is a balancing act at a guess as to how they can try and keep members safe from scammers/ spammers/people charging etc etc

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By *bitofamouthfullMan
2 weeks ago

Manchester

The list of Banned words is hidden

There is no way of knowing if you’re going to hit one

I’ve had a ban for writing to a profile “I’m not into X” (where x happened to have been mentioned as something they might be into on their profile)

I gained a SEVEN HOUR (not 2) ban for that and even still I’m not sure what word I used. It’s more a guess.

That took out a free evening I had to play (really annoying)

I get that we could guess words that aren’t allowed. But it’s still guessing.

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By (user no longer on site)
2 weeks ago

You can't mention the website that details the Life centered around Fet but you can post direct unsecured links to files in cloud services.

The list of banned stuff is not to do with security.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Central

"The list of Banned words is hidden

There is no way of knowing if you’re going to hit one

I’ve had a ban for writing to a profile “I’m not into X” (where x happened to have been mentioned as something they might be into on their profile)

I gained a SEVEN HOUR (not 2) ban for that and even still I’m not sure what word I used. It’s more a guess.

That took out a free evening I had to play (really annoying)

I get that we could guess words that aren’t allowed. But it’s still guessing.

The issue of publishing a list of what's not appropriate, is that it would of course, include some unsavoury topics that Fab would then have introduced into the site, which would be offensive and potentially breaking laws somewhere, which could be introduced after it's published. It also poses the risk of being perceived as everything else is acceptable, when often it's also about the integrated combination of words/topics that could be very wrong for the site, even if individual words seem innocuous. A dynamically updated list also supports appropriate modification and can prevent people from trying to avoid scrutiny.

As with the Fab photo rules, we state that nothing nasty must appear, with the following guidance

'It also can't show anything that is outside the norms. If it's too rude, taboo or unpleasant, or if it puts us off our dinner, it is not welcome here.'

Similar principles can be considered as right, for written content.

What's not permitted are individual words, phrases or implied meanings, which will include behaviour that's unpleasant/offensive, as well as URLs that aren't Fab's.

Probably 99.9% of the English language and URLs are going to be fine and leave everyone in a place that's comfortable and safe. Typically, using common sense is going to be enough to prevent any issues. Other people might report content, after it's been published and was determined as provisionally acceptable by the Fab automatic filters, so keeping within the sensible guidance akin to the photo advice, should help to prevent that.

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