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"A Web cam verification for either male female or couple is a waste of time in my opinion. It proves nothing only that people they are on cam. It gives no indication to how genuine they are. The only true verification would be a meeting in person. X" Opinions will always vary on this (although I totally agree with you!) - it was more of a 'technical' question as the rules state one thing and the fact is it doesn't appear to be the case! | |||
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"Quick question to admin! As the FAQ's and site rules now state that single guys cannot be verified by webcam and must be verified by meet in person - why is it still possible for webcam veri's to appear on male profiles. And i'm not talking about historical ones - but brand new shiny veri's dated yesterday on a profile previously unverified that now has both a webcam veri and that little green tick! Confused slightly! "i didnt know that I have verified bywebacm in chat room only to say I can see they are male and human lol if it is against the rules why hasnt ADMIN blocked that ability  | |||
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"Quick question to admin! As the FAQ's and site rules now state that single guys cannot be verified by webcam and must be verified by meet in person - why is it still possible for webcam veri's to appear on male profiles. And i'm not talking about historical ones - but brand new shiny veri's dated yesterday on a profile previously unverified that now has both a webcam veri and that little green tick! Confused slightly! "Cant see where it says this as not in FAQ's or verification rules page. | |||
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"Quick question to admin! As the FAQ's and site rules now state that single guys cannot be verified by webcam and must be verified by meet in person - why is it still possible for webcam veri's to appear on male profiles. And i'm not talking about historical ones - but brand new shiny veri's dated yesterday on a profile previously unverified that now has both a webcam veri and that little green tick! Confused slightly!
Cant see where it says this as not in FAQ's or verification rules page."found it.. (finally) How do I get verified by other members? You need to find someone who is already verified and ask them to verify you. If you are a couple or a woman then you can get verified by webcam or phone. An easy way to do this is to go into the chatroom while you are both there, switch your webcam on and ask someone to verify you. If you are a single guy then you need to meet someone. | |||
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"Quick question to admin! As the FAQ's and site rules now state that single guys cannot be verified by webcam and must be verified by meet in person - why is it still possible for webcam veri's to appear on male profiles. And i'm not talking about historical ones - but brand new shiny veri's dated yesterday on a profile previously unverified that now has both a webcam veri and that little green tick! Confused slightly! "Well if it's their first one and they haven't been verified before, then really you should report the profile to admin. sill if there is no actual block in place to prevent this if that is the case. | |||
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"Quick question to admin! As the FAQ's and site rules now state that single guys cannot be verified by webcam and must be verified by meet in person - why is it still possible for webcam veri's to appear on male profiles. And i'm not talking about historical ones - but brand new shiny veri's dated yesterday on a profile previously unverified that now has both a webcam veri and that little green tick! Confused slightly!
Well if it's their first one and they haven't been verified before, then really you should report the profile to admin.
sill if there is no actual block in place to prevent this if that is the case."That's what confused me! I've seen the mods quoting the rules in recent threads when asked by new or unverified single males - and I recall its a fairly recent rule change. But it does appear that it's still perfectly possible for it to happen - which makes me think admin have either backtracked and are still allowing it or that the systems haven't been updated (as they were when phone veri's were axed!) and that it's a site problem! Would be handy for users to know which is the true case!! | |||
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"Quick question to admin! As the FAQ's and site rules now state that single guys cannot be verified by webcam and must be verified by meet in person - why is it still possible for webcam veri's to appear on male profiles. And i'm not talking about historical ones - but brand new shiny veri's dated yesterday on a profile previously unverified that now has both a webcam veri and that little green tick! Confused slightly!
Well if it's their first one and they haven't been verified before, then really you should report the profile to admin.
sill if there is no actual block in place to prevent this if that is the case.
That's what confused me!
I've seen the mods quoting the rules in recent threads when asked by new or unverified single males - and I recall its a fairly recent rule change.
But it does appear that it's still perfectly possible for it to happen - which makes me think admin have either backtracked and are still allowing it or that the systems haven't been updated (as they were when phone veri's were axed!) and that it's a site problem!
Would be handy for users to know which is the true case!! "If admin have put no actual block in place, then the onus is on them to enforce their own rules. | |||
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"Have never seen the logic for webcam verifications for single males anyway - it's unlikely to be a single bi-female pretending is it? I can see why some value them for females and couples though personally I don;t see any reason for a any other verification other than met in person." IMHO - verifications by webcam are a waste of time. This option should be deprecated similar to phone verifications (and why are they still on the list in any case). | |||
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"A Web cam verification for either male female or couple is a waste of time in my opinion. It proves nothing only that people they are on cam. It gives no indication to how genuine they are. The only true verification would be a meeting in person. X" yes I have been after a meet with a single guy who only has webcam verifs and he wont set a date for meeting so guess hes a time waster lol  | |||
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"A Web cam verification for either male female or couple is a waste of time in my opinion. It proves nothing only that people they are on cam. It gives no indication to how genuine they are. The only true verification would be a meeting in person. X" This may not be the right topic for this but i've read one veri where the person verifying said "... i've met ????? many times in my dreams..." & that was a veri in person 
So i agree webcam veri's aren't worth much but even more i wish people would only veri in person when they have met in person  | |||
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" This may not be the right topic for this but i've read one veri where the person verifying said "... i've met ????? many times in my dreams..." & that was a veri in person
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" This may not be the right topic for this but i've read one veri where the person verifying said "... i've met ????? many times in my dreams..." & that was a veri in person
That should have been reported to Admin "I didn't report to admin cause - 1. I didn't realise i could 2. Technically the F hasn't broke the rules, the verifying M sort of did so wasn't sure if that counted & 3. The veri isnt displayed anymore so i cant back up my story. Think about this thread, would it n9t be possible for people to meet socially, get thier veri and not actually play 
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" Think about this thread, would it n9t be possible for people to meet socially, get thier veri and not actually play
Just a thought popped into my tiny brain that meeting someone doesnt necessarily mean they played together "Its not about playing, its about actually meeting when you say you will... You are verifying that they are real and do actually meet.... | |||
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"Is it possible that this particular single male has a met in person veri prior to the webcam veri, but just isn't showing it on their profile? Technically, could this scenario happen?" It could... But id be asking myself why show cam veri but not actual meet?? | |||
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"Is it possible that this particular single male has a met in person veri prior to the webcam veri, but just isn't showing it on their profile? Technically, could this scenario happen? It could... But id be asking myself why show cam veri but not actual meet??" Simply an oversight? Or the guy wasn't so keen on the person they met? Who knows. I was just wondering. | |||
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"Is it possible that this particular single male has a met in person veri prior to the webcam veri, but just isn't showing it on their profile? Technically, could this scenario happen? It could... But id be asking myself why show cam veri but not actual meet??" If the person who gave the meet veri left you wouldn't be able to show it. | |||
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"Is it possible that this particular single male has a met in person veri prior to the webcam veri, but just isn't showing it on their profile? Technically, could this scenario happen? It could... But id be asking myself why show cam veri but not actual meet?? If the person who gave the meet veri left you wouldn't be able to show it. "The case I was quoting is actually documented in a thread from the last few days - there was no meet in person, as stated by the OP in the thread. An offer was made to verify by webcam - and a mod even quoted the rule stating guys must meet in person. Within hours the OP was verified by cam and the little green tick was there! Just seems contradictory that the site rules quote something that isn't in fact true. And the FAQs for some reason have gone back to mentioning phone veri's for women/couples even though they're long gone! | |||
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" Some people do not meet at all, and will only play on cam. Does this mean they should not be verified and not considered genuine?" People look for the green tick when arranging meets... IF they only wanting to cam then its not important! I agree that verification tick should only be given on an actual MEET! | |||
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"FAQ is still as written in 2006 before we ran the site. Way it works is as it always has been. Yes, there is an inconsistency here! We made it slightly better by removing phone verification for all. This (verified by cam etc.) is partly the reason why we introduced facility to search for those with meets. Personally, we would be inclined to remove ability to verify males via webcam but it would rightly be met be outrage - why one rule for one account type than another. Admin x" Yes i agree males are not pariahs and should be treated same as females and couples so if removing right of verifying om webcam it has to be for everyone. | |||
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"FAQ is still as written in 2006 before we ran the site. Way it works is as it always has been. Yes, there is an inconsistency here! We made it slightly better by removing phone verification for all. This (verified by cam etc.) is partly the reason why we introduced facility to search for those with meets. Personally, we would be inclined to remove ability to verify males via webcam but it would rightly be met be outrage - why one rule for one account type than another. Admin x" Would it not make sense to remove webcam veri's altogether? My logic for this is as follows: Those looking for physical, face to face encounters are more concerned with seeing meet in person veri's - as this is evidence that someone physically turned up for a meet, rather than that they just own a webcam that was once switched on in chat. No guarantee that it ensures someone will subsequently turn up - but proof that they have at some point. A webcam veri shows what? That someone is happy to sit in front of a screen? There's no guarantee that faces (rather than just below the neck) were shown and the anecdotal evidence of suspicions of fake vids being shown is widespread. If people purely wish to interact on cam - that's their choice - but if someone wishes to see if someone broadcasting on cam is real - just head into chat and view them! It's that simple! Does a webcam veri serve any purpose if someone pops in once for 30 seconds to prove they have a head, arms and legs? Even in this day and age (apparently!) some people don't have cams on laptops or will buy a plug in webcam. Their choice of course - but many therefore utilise the ability to actually meet as a way of proving themselves genuine! A simple, one category verification system - meet in person only - would give a clear indication that another site member has met and seen that person in reality - be that on a play meet, at a social or via club attendance. As I've previously mentioned - it's a site members prerogative if they choose to use the site just for chat rooms, forums or any other activity not involving actual physical contact. But if that's the case - do they need to be verified? What does a little green tick add to a profile just interested in camming or posting on the forums? As for removing the cam veri option for single males only - this is an odd argument! I'm pretty sure there are a few guilty of posting out of date or unclear pics (and many 'borrowing' pics from the net as I've found and reported recently). But I'm also pretty sure there are more fake female and couples profiles out there and the number of single male profiles in fact set up by females and couples would be a minute percentage. So logic would argue it is the females and couples who would have the cam option withdrawn. That said - in the interests of equality - if it's removed for one group it should be removed for all! People should always be responsible for their own interactions - but given the huge number of 'timewaster' and 'fake' forum threads, status updates and comments in profiles - would a meet in person only verification system not go a long way to reducing the negativity seen by many? Just my thoughts!! | |||
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"FAQ is still as written in 2006 before we ran the site. Way it works is as it always has been. Yes, there is an inconsistency here! We made it slightly better by removing phone verification for all. This (verified by cam etc.) is partly the reason why we introduced facility to search for those with meets. Personally, we would be inclined to remove ability to verify males via webcam but it would rightly be met be outrage - why one rule for one account type than another. Admin x Would it not make sense to remove webcam veri's altogether? My logic for this is as follows: Those looking for physical, face to face encounters are more concerned with seeing meet in person veri's - as this is evidence that someone physically turned up for a meet, rather than that they just own a webcam that was once switched on in chat. No guarantee that it ensures someone will subsequently turn up - but proof that they have at some point. A webcam veri shows what? That someone is happy to sit in front of a screen? There's no guarantee that faces (rather than just below the neck) were shown and the anecdotal evidence of suspicions of fake vids being shown is widespread. If people purely wish to interact on cam - that's their choice - but if someone wishes to see if someone broadcasting on cam is real - just head into chat and view them! It's that simple! Does a webcam veri serve any purpose if someone pops in once for 30 seconds to prove they have a head, arms and legs? Even in this day and age (apparently!) some people don't have cams on laptops or will buy a plug in webcam. Their choice of course - but many therefore utilise the ability to actually meet as a way of proving themselves genuine! A simple, one category verification system - meet in person only - would give a clear indication that another site member has met and seen that person in reality - be that on a play meet, at a social or via club attendance. As I've previously mentioned - it's a site members prerogative if they choose to use the site just for chat rooms, forums or any other activity not involving actual physical contact. But if that's the case - do they need to be verified? What does a little green tick add to a profile just interested in camming or posting on the forums? As for removing the cam veri option for single males only - this is an odd argument! I'm pretty sure there are a few guilty of posting out of date or unclear pics (and many 'borrowing' pics from the net as I've found and reported recently). But I'm also pretty sure there are more fake female and couples profiles out there and the number of single male profiles in fact set up by females and couples would be a minute percentage. So logic would argue it is the females and couples who would have the cam option withdrawn. That said - in the interests of equality - if it's removed for one group it should be removed for all! People should always be responsible for their own interactions - but given the huge number of 'timewaster' and 'fake' forum threads, status updates and comments in profiles - would a meet in person only verification system not go a long way to reducing the negativity seen by many? Just my thoughts!! " Very well put fella | |||
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"One thought that has been voiced before is to have different icon for those with meets than those without. Could be as simple as lightgreen no meets, darkgreen with meets. Feedback welcome Admin x" We would like to see this please admin x | |||
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"One thought that has been voiced before is to have different icon for those with meets than those without. Could be as simple as lightgreen no meets, darkgreen with meets. Feedback welcome Admin x" | |||
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"One thought that has been voiced before is to have different icon for those with meets than those without. Could be as simple as lightgreen no meets, darkgreen with meets. Feedback welcome Admin x" I don not hold any water in cam veri's, so ask to see them. If I could see at a glance which sort of veri they had stashed that would be good | |||
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"I don't agree with the removal of webcam veries,if the only reason to remove them is because its not an actual meet them why are cam rooms such a massive part of this site? If there is a worry it makes people less genuine for example you only see the top half of a person and not much else then you may as well ban everysingle pic thats uploaded on this site incase they're not a true representation Having meet verifications does not guarantee that the person will meet you either or that they're real as demonstrated in a thread on here the other day where the person with a meet verification was clearly fake and soon removed As always it seems people want spoonfeeding with regards to ensuring that people are going to be all they seem when if you trust your instincts then thats the best tool you have for sorting out genuine from not so genuine I like the idea of different colour ticks to show web veri from meet veris,it will keep people happy from both sides of the camp "I - and I'd suspect many others - certainly don't need spoonfeeding! And I've already stated that chat rooms and camming are as much a part of the site for some as actual meets are for others. But if people want to chat/cam - surely the fact a cam is switched on and they are able to view it is enough? What does a cam veri add to a profile? I've yet to see a meet post asking for a 'hot date in directing room no.4 - check my veri's to see I'm real' !! As far as I've seen - people just pop in and out as and when they like and switch on their cams when in the mood! If you need a veri option for more than actual meets - why not reintroduce the phone ones? Or add a new category for 'Verified by text' or 'verified as I've seen their posts in the forums so they must be real as they can type' ? | |||
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"Is it possible that this particular single male has a met in person veri prior to the webcam veri, but just isn't showing it on their profile? Technically, could this scenario happen? It could... But id be asking myself why show cam veri but not actual meet?? If the person who gave the meet veri left you wouldn't be able to show it.
The case I was quoting is actually documented in a thread from the last few days
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"to prove their profile pictures are an accurate reflection. ." And here lies the dilemma!! If a profile has no visible pics, no face pics, no full body shots, or just pics of one half of a couple - what is actually being verified?? The rules are clear in that they say both halves of a couple must be seen and that those verifying must ensure its not in fact a video - but how do they do that, and how often do veri's state "saw him/her on cam" on couples profiles? | |||
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"I did'nt suggest you needed spoonfeeding so don't come across as if you have taken that personally,you've been around these forums for long enough to know exactly what I mean,you only have to read some of the threads asking for advice or moaning to realise that some people in fact do need spoonfeeding Personally ive never verified anyone by cam or recieved a cam veri,of course you,ll have to take my word for that as they're hidden,if admin goes ahead with the colour change it will make it clearer to those that don't like cam veries to pass the profiles by,but if its about making sure that the person you're planning on meeting is the same person you're seeing in pics on the profile then I think they should stay,a lot of people only cam as thats the experience they want from the site I don't think they should have the veri option taken away from them" Oops this response was to Obi....did'nt hit reply+quote | |||
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"As I've previously mentioned - it's a site members prerogative if they choose to use the site just for chat rooms, forums or any other activity not involving actual physical contact. But if that's the case - do they need to be verified? What does a little green tick add to a profile just interested in camming or posting on the forums? " They need to be verified ( one part of it )to chat in chat or use the forum. Take it away and the people who havn't been lucky to have a meet yet will be sat on the sidelines. | |||
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"As I've previously mentioned - it's a site members prerogative if they choose to use the site just for chat rooms, forums or any other activity not involving actual physical contact. But if that's the case - do they need to be verified? What does a little green tick add to a profile just interested in camming or posting on the forums? They need to be verified ( one part of it )to chat in chat or use the forum. Take it away and the people who havn't been lucky to have a meet yet will be sat on the sidelines." Forums yes (but photo verification works too!!) but I've seen no end of unverified users in chat - chatted to a few myself. With no green flag or tick! | |||
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"to prove their profile pictures are an accurate reflection. . And here lies the dilemma!! If a profile has no visible pics, no face pics, no full body shots, or just pics of one half of a couple - what is actually being verified?? The rules are clear in that they say both halves of a couple must be seen and that those verifying must ensure its not in fact a video - but how do they do that, and how often do veri's state "saw him/her on cam" on couples profiles? " Whatever you do it is always open to abuse. I reported someone the other day as they put up a status asking to be verified. Within 20 mins they had a meet in person veri. This was sorted by admin but I bet there are quite a few that go unnoticed. I don't see the webcam ones affecting anyone who is not interested in them though. | |||
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" I don't see the webcam ones affecting anyone who is not interested in them though. " This! and if the colour coded tick comes in it'll make it easier to ignore
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"One thought that has been voiced before is to have different icon for those with meets than those without. Could be as simple as lightgreen no meets, darkgreen with meets. Feedback welcome Admin x" I agree with this.... | |||
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"One thought that has been voiced before is to have different icon for those with meets than those without. Could be as simple as lightgreen no meets, darkgreen with meets. Feedback welcome Admin x" Hi Admin This isn't the right place for it but if i had an idea/proposal on site changes/improvements do i message you specifically or put it in the site feedback forum to be debated by other members too? I ask as this topic aswell as another one on veri displays has had me thinking of a possible solution that MAY encompass everyone's ideas and concerns about it M (i stress the word may as no solution is perfect and someone is bound to find holes in my proposal though constructive criticism is always welcome ) | |||
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"You can ask here if you want or if you want a header with your suggestion on you can start another thread in the Feedback section. "Thanking you very muchly
I'll do it when i get home as using my phone will take forever!
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