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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes

I’ve been a regular user for nearly 10 years, and lately the site just doesn’t work like it used to.

I visit someone’s profile and it says, “You messaged this person 4 weeks ago,” yet nothing shows in my sent items.

Or it says, “You received a message 7 months ago,” but it’s nowhere to be found in my inbox.

My inbox history only goes back about 3 years — with huge gaps — despite being consistently active the whole time.

I’ve contacted FabSupport, but nothing has come of it.

What makes this more frustrating is the sheer imbalance on the site. Every time a new female user appears, she’s bombarded with 1,500+ messages in days. It’s no wonder things are breaking when the male-to-female ratio is so wildly out of control.

And let’s be honest — it says a lot about a site’s mindset when they clearly make good money, yet still rely solely on unpaid volunteers to keep things running. That’s not sustainable, it’s just greedy. There's been little sign of proper reinvestment into the platform, and no meaningful improvements in years.

The site used to be great. Now it just feels neglected.

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By *ucka39Man
4 weeks ago

Newcastle

Just like before over time messages get removed by the site but like before you are able to use the save message

Hence why you don't see a link from previous messages on the profile it fades away

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By *ucka39Man
4 weeks ago

Newcastle

It's always been a higher ratio men to women but still works and if the woman wants to respond to any of the messages she has received she will. I guessing scroll through what plucks interest

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes

How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes

You also just joined over a year ago so you're advise isn't valid but thanks anyway for the "reasoning"

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By *ucka39Man
4 weeks ago

Newcastle


"You also just joined over a year ago so you're advise isn't valid but thanks anyway for the "reasoning""

😂🤣 I've been here well over 10 years and you're welcome I'll keep my advice 😝

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

4 weeks ago

O o O oo


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

"

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"You also just joined over a year ago so you're advise isn't valid but thanks anyway for the "reasoning"

😂🤣 I've been here well over 10 years and you're welcome I'll keep my advice 😝"

However, my balls aren't made of crystal

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided."

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site.

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By *ogandher1962Couple
4 weeks ago

Reading


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site."

Does a Forum Mod need to be “active” in the lifestyle to fulfill their role? Nope they dont

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By *tern maleMan
4 weeks ago

Cumbernauld

Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

4 weeks ago

East Sussex


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles"

What's to stop me naming you as a fake or time waster? It could so easily be abused.

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By *ogandher1962Couple
4 weeks ago

Reading


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles"

What is your definition of a “Timewaster”?

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By *bi HaiveMan
4 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"I’ve been a regular user for nearly 10 years, and lately the site just doesn’t work like it used to.

I visit someone’s profile and it says, “You messaged this person 4 weeks ago,” yet nothing shows in my sent items.

Or it says, “You received a message 7 months ago,” but it’s nowhere to be found in my inbox.

My inbox history only goes back about 3 years — with huge gaps — despite being consistently active the whole time.

I’ve contacted FabSupport, but nothing has come of it.

What makes this more frustrating is the sheer imbalance on the site. Every time a new female user appears, she’s bombarded with 1,500+ messages in days. It’s no wonder things are breaking when the male-to-female ratio is so wildly out of control.

And let’s be honest — it says a lot about a site’s mindset when they clearly make good money, yet still rely solely on unpaid volunteers to keep things running. That’s not sustainable, it’s just greedy. There's been little sign of proper reinvestment into the platform, and no meaningful improvements in years.

The site used to be great. Now it just feels neglected.

"

As an 'unpaid volunteer who's been here 17 years Ive not noticed the same changes you seem to have.

Messages have always disappeared after a while unless you save them.

As for the ratios? Maybe if some men didn't assume that by joining there'd be endless free sex and a queue of people rushing to meet them, the the ratios would be different and also the mindset of some would change, resulting in less angst and frustration.

As for the comment re 1500 messages for a new single woman profile? That says more about the men than anything else. The level of thirst and the urgency to contact anyone new in the hope of being noticed before someone else is what puts some people off remaining on the site.

Maybe the issues you see arent anything to do with the site itself, but instead are problems created by some of its users?

The site is, and has always been, free to use if you don't want to be a site supporter. There's plenty of tools available to use if you want to restrict contact and engagement with verified folk, other site supporters, thise with photos and all manner of filters.

If people notice changes in how the site works for them, I often wonder if it's simply them and their expectations that have changed, especially over a long period of time. We all get older. We all become potentially less desirable. We all need to manage our own interactions and expectations rather than simply blame others or the site. Because sometimes the causes of the changes lie closer to home. 🤷‍♂️

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

4 weeks ago

O o O oo


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

.

"

To be fair I didn't defend the site, I answered some of the queries you raised.

I might remind you that you have commented on two profiles now that people didn't ask for, this is not allowed on the forum. You will find the forum rules here.

https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules

On another comment, if you add what improvements you think are needed onto the thread they will be seen by Admin

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By *aidForSharingWoman
4 weeks ago

Quinton


"I’ve been a regular user for nearly 10 years, and lately the site just doesn’t work like it used to.

I visit someone’s profile and it says, “You messaged this person 4 weeks ago,” yet nothing shows in my sent items.

Or it says, “You received a message 7 months ago,” but it’s nowhere to be found in my inbox.

My inbox history only goes back about 3 years — with huge gaps — despite being consistently active the whole time.

I’ve contacted FabSupport, but nothing has come of it.

What makes this more frustrating is the sheer imbalance on the site. Every time a new female user appears, she’s bombarded with 1,500+ messages in days. It’s no wonder things are breaking when the male-to-female ratio is so wildly out of control.

And let’s be honest — it says a lot about a site’s mindset when they clearly make good money, yet still rely solely on unpaid volunteers to keep things running. That’s not sustainable, it’s just greedy. There's been little sign of proper reinvestment into the platform, and no meaningful improvements in years.

The site used to be great. Now it just feels neglected.

As an 'unpaid volunteer who's been here 17 years Ive not noticed the same changes you seem to have.

Messages have always disappeared after a while unless you save them.

As for the ratios? Maybe if some men didn't assume that by joining there'd be endless free sex and a queue of people rushing to meet them, the the ratios would be different and also the mindset of some would change, resulting in less angst and frustration.

As for the comment re 1500 messages for a new single woman profile? That says more about the men than anything else. The level of thirst and the urgency to contact anyone new in the hope of being noticed before someone else is what puts some people off remaining on the site.

Maybe the issues you see arent anything to do with the site itself, but instead are problems created by some of its users?

The site is, and has always been, free to use if you don't want to be a site supporter. There's plenty of tools available to use if you want to restrict contact and engagement with verified folk, other site supporters, thise with photos and all manner of filters.

If people notice changes in how the site works for them, I often wonder if it's simply them and their expectations that have changed, especially over a long period of time. We all get older. We all become potentially less desirable. We all need to manage our own interactions and expectations rather than simply blame others or the site. Because sometimes the causes of the changes lie closer to home. 🤷‍♂️"

Ouch. I get more attention now than I did when I was younger, both here and in clubs. Fab remains a life changer for me and I just want to take this opportunity to shout out for the unique, special place it is.

The random, offensive and desperate messages from men still come thick and fast but Fab told me simply to block them with no reply, like swatting away an unwanted pest.

There are plenty of 'fakes' in the real world too: married men pretending to be single etc. It's called human nature.

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By *etWetWet453Couple
4 weeks ago

CAMBERLEY


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles

What is your definition of a “Timewaster”? "

There may not be a definitive definition relating to this site, but I`m sure we can we can all give numerous examples. We certainly can.

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By *ogandher1962Couple
4 weeks ago

Reading


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles

What is your definition of a “Timewaster”?

There may not be a definitive definition relating to this site, but I`m sure we can we can all give numerous examples. We certainly can."

Agreed, just wondered what the posters definition was.

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site.

Does a Forum Mod need to be “active” in the lifestyle to fulfill their role? Nope they dont "

"You can't view this profile

This profile is not available for you to view."

LOL

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles

What's to stop me naming you as a fake or time waster? It could so easily be abused. "

There's that misandristic pretentious fabswingers tone...

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles"

A good idea but might cost money for that little bit of extra server space haha therefore it can't be done

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By *ogandher1962Couple
4 weeks ago

Reading


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site.

Does a Forum Mod need to be “active” in the lifestyle to fulfill their role? Nope they dont

"You can't view this profile

This profile is not available for you to view."

LOL"

Your point being what exactly OP?

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"I’ve been a regular user for nearly 10 years, and lately the site just doesn’t work like it used to.

I visit someone’s profile and it says, “You messaged this person 4 weeks ago,” yet nothing shows in my sent items.

Or it says, “You received a message 7 months ago,” but it’s nowhere to be found in my inbox.

My inbox history only goes back about 3 years — with huge gaps — despite being consistently active the whole time.

I’ve contacted FabSupport, but nothing has come of it.

What makes this more frustrating is the sheer imbalance on the site. Every time a new female user appears, she’s bombarded with 1,500+ messages in days. It’s no wonder things are breaking when the male-to-female ratio is so wildly out of control.

And let’s be honest — it says a lot about a site’s mindset when they clearly make good money, yet still rely solely on unpaid volunteers to keep things running. That’s not sustainable, it’s just greedy. There's been little sign of proper reinvestment into the platform, and no meaningful improvements in years.

The site used to be great. Now it just feels neglected.

As an 'unpaid volunteer who's been here 17 years Ive not noticed the same changes you seem to have.

Messages have always disappeared after a while unless you save them.

As for the ratios? Maybe if some men didn't assume that by joining there'd be endless free sex and a queue of people rushing to meet them, the the ratios would be different and also the mindset of some would change, resulting in less angst and frustration.

As for the comment re 1500 messages for a new single woman profile? That says more about the men than anything else. The level of thirst and the urgency to contact anyone new in the hope of being noticed before someone else is what puts some people off remaining on the site.

Maybe the issues you see arent anything to do with the site itself, but instead are problems created by some of its users?

The site is, and has always been, free to use if you don't want to be a site supporter. There's plenty of tools available to use if you want to restrict contact and engagement with verified folk, other site supporters, thise with photos and all manner of filters.

If people notice changes in how the site works for them, I often wonder if it's simply them and their expectations that have changed, especially over a long period of time. We all get older. We all become potentially less desirable. We all need to manage our own interactions and expectations rather than simply blame others or the site. Because sometimes the causes of the changes lie closer to home. 🤷‍♂️"

You’ve completely missed the point! The issue isn’t about old messages vanishing after years, it’s messages from just a few weeks or months ago that are disappearing. That’s not normal. That’s a fault that is happening to multiple users.

You talk about user behaviour like you have a masters in anthropology, and as if that excuses the sites poor functionality. Yes, some users create problems, but it’s the site that’s responsible for maintaining the platform and fixing bugs. When those bugs go ignored, and support from people such as yourself simply copies FAQ links that don’t apply, it becomes clear the issues aren’t just caused by users - they’re being perpetuated by poor admin and a lack of proper investment.

As for olunteering for 17 years, that’s your choice, but don’t expect applause for working unpaid on a site that makes plenty of money from users and gives you nothing in return for doing it's admin. Would you do your day job for free as well?

As for the “maybe it’s your expectations” line - that’s exactly the kind of patronising nonsense that gets people’s backs up. I’ve supported this site financially. I’m not whining about a dry spell, I’m pointing out legitimate faults that didn’t used to happen but your making assumptions about my character and that's messed up for someone that is a part of this website!

If your only input is to blame users, defend a broken system, and lecture paying members about how they feel, then you’re not helping. You’re part of the reason people are frustrated. Shame on you.

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

.

To be fair I didn't defend the site, I answered some of the queries you raised.

I might remind you that you have commented on two profiles now that people didn't ask for, this is not allowed on the forum. You will find the forum rules here.

https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules

On another comment, if you add what improvements you think are needed onto the thread they will be seen by Admin "

Sue me!

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By *ogandher1962Couple
4 weeks ago

Reading


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

.

To be fair I didn't defend the site, I answered some of the queries you raised.

I might remind you that you have commented on two profiles now that people didn't ask for, this is not allowed on the forum. You will find the forum rules here.

https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules

On another comment, if you add what improvements you think are needed onto the thread they will be seen by Admin

Sue me!"

Guessing your time on the site is probably coming to an end OP. Have a lovely weekend.

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site.

Does a Forum Mod need to be “active” in the lifestyle to fulfill their role? Nope they dont

"You can't view this profile

This profile is not available for you to view."

LOL

Your point being what exactly OP? "

I'll let you imagine the obvious point

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By *bi HaiveMan
4 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles

A good idea but might cost money for that little bit of extra server space haha therefore it can't be done "

So if I posted that Pegasus9 was a timewaster I suspect you'd be upset/annoyed/frustrated about it?

I don't know you from Adam of course, but what's to stop anyone just typing words on a screen because they've been turned down, rejected or ignored by someone?

There is, and always has been, the ability to report profiles that no show after plans have been made. Admin look at all reports and will act where appropriate. But just one person's word against another is not the solution. It would undoubtedly be abused. And people are more than entitled to change their minds about meeting someone at any point.

We're all adults. We're all more than capable of deciding if a profile looks iffy to us and making the decision to move on to someone else. Nobody is obligated to engage with anyone else, reply to messages or make plans to meet. If people are constantly getting let down and stood up there'll be a reason. And that's more than likely to be down to rushing into things, not using common sense and not doing all they can to ensure the people they're conversing with are who they say they are.

The site facilitates contact between people. It's not responsible for managing everything from start to finish. It gives some very good advice here, starting with this.

"Don't forget that the only person responsible for your safety is you, so don't put yourself in a dangerous situation or a situation where a stranger can let you down."

https://m.fabswingers.com/content/safer-meets.html

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By *ogandher1962Couple
4 weeks ago

Reading


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site.

Does a Forum Mod need to be “active” in the lifestyle to fulfill their role? Nope they dont

"You can't view this profile

This profile is not available for you to view."

LOL

Your point being what exactly OP?

I'll let you imagine the obvious point "

On the basis you've made personal comments on at least two other users profiles in this thread we thought we wouldn't give you the chance.....

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

.

To be fair I didn't defend the site, I answered some of the queries you raised.

I might remind you that you have commented on two profiles now that people didn't ask for, this is not allowed on the forum. You will find the forum rules here.

https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules

On another comment, if you add what improvements you think are needed onto the thread they will be seen by Admin

Sue me!

Guessing your time on the site is probably coming to an end OP. Have a lovely weekend. "

Oh no — I’m trembling! However will I survive without FabSwingers and my silenced free speech?

Make another account? Heaven forbid!

I’m sure the ever-vigilant team of unpaid FabMin, devs, and self-appointed forum police will be right on top of that.

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles

A good idea but might cost money for that little bit of extra server space haha therefore it can't be done

So if I posted that Pegasus9 was a timewaster I suspect you'd be upset/annoyed/frustrated about it?

I don't know you from Adam of course, but what's to stop anyone just typing words on a screen because they've been turned down, rejected or ignored by someone?

There is, and always has been, the ability to report profiles that no show after plans have been made. Admin look at all reports and will act where appropriate. But just one person's word against another is not the solution. It would undoubtedly be abused. And people are more than entitled to change their minds about meeting someone at any point.

We're all adults. We're all more than capable of deciding if a profile looks iffy to us and making the decision to move on to someone else. Nobody is obligated to engage with anyone else, reply to messages or make plans to meet. If people are constantly getting let down and stood up there'll be a reason. And that's more than likely to be down to rushing into things, not using common sense and not doing all they can to ensure the people they're conversing with are who they say they are.

The site facilitates contact between people. It's not responsible for managing everything from start to finish. It gives some very good advice here, starting with this.

"Don't forget that the only person responsible for your safety is you, so don't put yourself in a dangerous situation or a situation where a stranger can let you down."

https://m.fabswingers.com/content/safer-meets.html"

Self righteous much?

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By *egasus9 OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Milton Keynes


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site.

Does a Forum Mod need to be “active” in the lifestyle to fulfill their role? Nope they dont

"You can't view this profile

This profile is not available for you to view."

LOL

Your point being what exactly OP?

I'll let you imagine the obvious point

On the basis you've made personal comments on at least two other users profiles in this thread we thought we wouldn't give you the chance.....

"

Couldn't give a toss

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By *ogandher1962Couple
4 weeks ago

Reading


"How does 1500+ messages work for a new single lady?

Also no the messages don't fade away, there a massive gaps in between. Also, when you report this to fabmin you just get a copy and paste reply to the FAQ's board with no link. This does not help

They will steer you to where you will find the answer. The answer about disappearing mails is on the FAQ's

https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#messages_missing

No matter what the ratio of men and women, you still may not get a reply.

If women want to limit their mailbox they can do by using the filters provided.

Your profile says you’re "not looking for anything anymore", so it’s odd you're just here to defend the site?

I've read the link you shared but it still doesn’t excuse anything — I’m a long-standing, active, verified user. My account isn’t and hasn't been dormant, yet messages still disappear. That brings me back to my original point: if I’m a paying supporter, why am I suffering from issues caused by non-paying users?

Filters can help women manage inboxes, but they don’t fix the fact that men are buried under one another and go unseen. I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site.

Does a Forum Mod need to be “active” in the lifestyle to fulfill their role? Nope they dont

"You can't view this profile

This profile is not available for you to view."

LOL

Your point being what exactly OP?

I'll let you imagine the obvious point

On the basis you've made personal comments on at least two other users profiles in this thread we thought we wouldn't give you the chance.....

Couldn't give a toss "

But yet you continue to comment..... "Wethinks you doth protest too much...."

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
4 weeks ago

Carlisle usually


"I’d be interested to see the real ratios — even with filters like “no newbies,” “supporters only,” and “verifications only,” it probably drops from 10,000:1 to 1,000:1 — which is still wildly unbalanced and I’m referring to the ratio of single men to all other users on the site."

There's usually around 30k people online when I look. Are we saying that at no point are there more than three women online with that 10,000:1 ratio? I'm assuming we can make up the remaining numbers with couples and TV's rather than worry about that half a woman that may be floating.

I think it may be a little out.

I'm not sure what the problem is OP. Was there a promise somewhere of how long messages will remain stored if you don't save them?

I'm a woman. I delete hundreds of pointless messages every week. Why would the site need to store them for any longer than they take to read and dismiss?

If you messaged them something worthwhile, you'd remember what it was surely. If it wasn't worth remembering, why should the site providers pay for additional web storage for it? You're informed that you messaged them and how long ago, that's more than most places provide, and the site is free to use 💜

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By *rexl SpiveyMan
4 weeks ago

Fort William

I was on here as a young buck in 2007.... I swear they still have the same video software lol.

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By *bi HaiveMan
4 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"I was on here as a young buck in 2007.... I swear they still have the same video software lol. "

Videos weren't added until much later than that. 😉

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By *ucka39Man
4 weeks ago

Newcastle

Think I've figured it out whilst one maybe an active user but if the user at the other end isn't then obviously both sides of the messages disappear

✔️

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By *exyBJBabeWoman
4 weeks ago

In a warm bed near Essex

Please note that not every new single female on here gets 1500+ messages. Cos I dont!. Also I try and reply to all my messages.

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By *rexl SpiveyMan
4 weeks ago

Fort William


"I was on here as a young buck in 2007.... I swear they still have the same video software lol.

Videos weren't added until much later than that. 😉"

If the Aaccttuaallyyy meme was a person

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By *exyLeeLeeWoman
3 weeks ago

leeds

Unfortunately there are alot of single men..and women.. that plan to meet and then dont and it gives the rest of us singles a bad rep. More so the men. Or the men and sometimes women use the site as a free wank site. The ratio is awful though. In directing rooms mostly. There was 176 people in a few days ago and I kid you not. There was 40 single females and couples in the room..rest were single men.

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By *.DickyFitzwell..Man
3 weeks ago

Fordham


"Please note that not every new single female on here gets 1500+ messages. Cos I dont!. Also I try and reply to all my messages."

Well said SexyBJBabe, I have a female friend on here and she doesn’t get loads of messages either.

As long as the right filters are set and a clear profile, then in theory the wasters generally pass by, it also doesn’t help when some users attract the attention, but then that is what they want I guess.

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By *uliette500Woman
3 weeks ago

Hull


"Fed up of all the fakes and time wasters now on the site. Why can’t we have a name and shame area so others can be warned about fake profiles

A good idea but might cost money for that little bit of extra server space haha therefore it can't be done "

Naming and shaming shouldn't be allowed at all.

It would be too open to abuse.

I have been called a times waster for not wanting to meet someone 200 miles away.

For refusing to "meet now"

I was told by one bloke I shouldn't even be logged on if I wasnt ready to meet straight away.

All of these people would have named and shamed me as a time waster because that's what their opinion was.

Do you really think it's a good idea when you look at it this way?

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By *ingofthenorth69Man
2 weeks ago

sussex


"Please note that not every new single female on here gets 1500+ messages. Cos I dont!. Also I try and reply to all my messages."
I think the op is over inflating the numbers just a bit there maybe take off a 0 you may not get that many hunni but I have just sent you a wee msg too as I really enjoyed reading all of your profile and have sent you a lovely little intro msg 😊😊. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
2 weeks ago

I think the OP is talking nonsense. I'm a software engineer for work, part of that is working out software behaviour (partially to attempt to understand weaknesses that need fixing).

If I message a woman, and SHE deletes the message, that history will disappear after a couple of weeks. If she doesn't delete, the message remains so there is history.

As to the OPs other point, a new joiner getting 1500 messages a day, one way to drastically reduce this would be to apply the same logic that they do for winks. If it was set up that I couldn't send a follow-up message to one that hadn't been replied to, women would simultaneously have far more manageable mailboxes and also wouldn't get the 'why didn't you reply' responses...

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By *entleman of FortuneMan
2 weeks ago

Hull


"You also just joined over a year ago so you're advise isn't valid but thanks anyway for the "reasoning""

When you've been here over a year that's what it says, mine does too I've had this profile 4 years just says joined over a year ago.

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By *ucka39Man
2 weeks ago

Newcastle


"You also just joined over a year ago so you're advise isn't valid but thanks anyway for the "reasoning"

When you've been here over a year that's what it says, mine does too I've had this profile 4 years just says joined over a year ago.

"

And any photos tell another story

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By *ack2beingsingleMan
2 weeks ago

angus

Well this thread escalated quickly lol

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By *eviant-DesiresMan
2 weeks ago

Mid Cornwall

I've only been here a few months so I don't know it any other way than this but I do agree it sucks!

I do feel for the women on here but also there's worse problems to have in life than a full in box and it seems from what I've seen in forums plus status updates the only time most women on here actually reply to anyone is when they want to have a moan! Ridiculous

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By *urvyCuckoldressCouple
2 weeks ago

Scunthorpe

Do you reply to every unsolicited mail you receive through your letterbox? Or every email you receive?

This is exactly the same thing. Yes we are essentially advertising what we offer but that doesn’t mean that we need to respond to everyone who messages.

I’m very clear what I’m looking for on my profile but that doesn’t stop people who clearly haven’t read my profile from messaging me. Am I supposed to respond to every message telling them that they aren’t what I’m looking for? Because that opens the door for a follow up message telling me why I should meet them.

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By *uliette500Woman
2 weeks ago

Hull


"I've only been here a few months so I don't know it any other way than this but I do agree it sucks!

I do feel for the women on here but also there's worse problems to have in life than a full in box and it seems from what I've seen in forums plus status updates the only time most women on here actually reply to anyone is when they want to have a moan! Ridiculous "

Women tend to check profiles before they read your message. If they are not interested they will either not read it, not reply or delete it.

As clearly stated in the FAQs on the site no reply = no thanks.

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By *eviant-DesiresMan
2 weeks ago

Mid Cornwall


"Do you reply to every unsolicited mail you receive through your letterbox? Or every email you receive?

This is exactly the same thing. Yes we are essentially advertising what we offer but that doesn’t mean that we need to respond to everyone who messages.

I’m very clear what I’m looking for on my profile but that doesn’t stop people who clearly haven’t read my profile from messaging me. Am I supposed to respond to every message telling them that they aren’t what I’m looking for? Because that opens the door for a follow up message telling me why I should meet them. "

I don't msg many people because I'm kinda fussy and I do actually take the time to read someone's profile before I msg to see if I maybe what their looking for so I wasn't just going on my time here. My opinion like I said is going on other people's posts plus a lot of men and women's status.

And to answer you're question yes I do reply to everyone even if it's a polite thanks but not for me and if like you say someone insists on trying to persuade me then that's when the block button comes in handy.

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By *eviant-DesiresMan
2 weeks ago

Mid Cornwall

And when you say unsolicited mail how else is someone supposed to go about starting a conversation without messaging 🤔

If everyone though like that no one would ever get anywhere on here.

Oh I don't know you and didn't ask for you're msg so I'll just delete it lol 👏

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By *uliette500Woman
2 weeks ago

Hull


"Do you reply to every unsolicited mail you receive through your letterbox? Or every email you receive?

This is exactly the same thing. Yes we are essentially advertising what we offer but that doesn’t mean that we need to respond to everyone who messages.

I’m very clear what I’m looking for on my profile but that doesn’t stop people who clearly haven’t read my profile from messaging me. Am I supposed to respond to every message telling them that they aren’t what I’m looking for? Because that opens the door for a follow up message telling me why I should meet them.

I don't msg many people because I'm kinda fussy and I do actually take the time to read someone's profile before I msg to see if I maybe what their looking for so I wasn't just going on my time here. My opinion like I said is going on other people's posts plus a lot of men and women's status.

And to answer you're question yes I do reply to everyone even if it's a polite thanks but not for me and if like you say someone insists on trying to persuade me then that's when the block button comes in handy."

The main reason I dont reply to everyone is I want any future filters I might set to work. If I choose at a later date to block single males all the ones I have previously said no thanks to wont be blocked as I've engaged with them already.

As per the rules of the site no reply means no thanks.

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By *eviant-DesiresMan
2 weeks ago

Mid Cornwall


"Do you reply to every unsolicited mail you receive through your letterbox? Or every email you receive?

This is exactly the same thing. Yes we are essentially advertising what we offer but that doesn’t mean that we need to respond to everyone who messages.

I’m very clear what I’m looking for on my profile but that doesn’t stop people who clearly haven’t read my profile from messaging me. Am I supposed to respond to every message telling them that they aren’t what I’m looking for? Because that opens the door for a follow up message telling me why I should meet them.

I don't msg many people because I'm kinda fussy and I do actually take the time to read someone's profile before I msg to see if I maybe what their looking for so I wasn't just going on my time here. My opinion like I said is going on other people's posts plus a lot of men and women's status.

And to answer you're question yes I do reply to everyone even if it's a polite thanks but not for me and if like you say someone insists on trying to persuade me then that's when the block button comes in handy.

The main reason I dont reply to everyone is I want any future filters I might set to work. If I choose at a later date to block single males all the ones I have previously said no thanks to wont be blocked as I've engaged with them already.

As per the rules of the site no reply means no thanks. "

Well at least that's a understandable reason but still block is an option and takes less time than a reply on here on you're in box

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By *eviant-DesiresMan
2 weeks ago

Mid Cornwall

Or you're in box**

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By *oan of DArcCouple
2 weeks ago

Glasgow


"And when you say unsolicited mail how else is someone supposed to go about starting a conversation without messaging 🤔

If everyone though like that no one would ever get anywhere on here.

Oh I don't know you and didn't ask for you're msg so I'll just delete it lol 👏"

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I think what they're saying is unsolicited messages don't require a reply, not that it's wrong to send them.

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By *OTSOSUBTLEMan
2 weeks ago

DUBLIN

After 5 years, I've realised this site promises much but delivers little. Multitudes of messages never get read or responded to and I'm not the only one who has stated this. After 5 years, I have no expectation of anything on any level. It's fascinating to see complaints, especially from females, that guys are so aggressive, send pics of dicks and bombarding with messages, but then they won't even bother to respond when a polite message of introduction does not even get read. They say a sign of insanity is to keep repeating the same process, hoping for a different outcome.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

2 weeks ago

O o O oo


"After 5 years, I've realised this site promises much but delivers little.

"

The site doesn't promise that a message you send will be replied to. They can't / wouldn't do that as we all have a choice of who we decide to speak to

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By *oan of DArcCouple
2 weeks ago

Glasgow


"After 5 years, I've realised this site promises much but delivers little. Multitudes of messages never get read or responded to and I'm not the only one who has stated this. After 5 years, I have no expectation of anything on any level. It's fascinating to see complaints, especially from females, that guys are so aggressive, send pics of dicks and bombarding with messages, but then they won't even bother to respond when a polite message of introduction does not even get read. They say a sign of insanity is to keep repeating the same process, hoping for a different outcome.

_______________________________________________________

Yet there are men here who appear to do very well (given the quality and quantity of their verifications) and they're not all prodiously endowed, gym fit, 30 somethings x

"

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By *amsubMan
2 weeks ago

hyde

Seems some people are never happy it's OK to want to change things but it's only an opinion which doesn't mean it will work if I am fed up I would leave the site I can't actually see how much has changed and personal insults don't help ??

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By *ipstick KissesWoman
2 weeks ago

Newry


"After 5 years, I've realised this site promises much but delivers little. Multitudes of messages never get read or responded to and I'm not the only one who has stated this. After 5 years, I have no expectation of anything on any level. It's fascinating to see complaints, especially from females, that guys are so aggressive, send pics of dicks and bombarding with messages, but then they won't even bother to respond when a polite message of introduction does not even get read. They say a sign of insanity is to keep repeating the same process, hoping for a different outcome.

"

How do you know they're not responding to messages? Although the people you message might not be replying to you (because that's the only measure you can accurately use), they will be responding to messages from the profiles that interest them.

The implication of your post is that someone how the site should do something to ensure that people read and respond to all their messages which is, quite frankly, ridiculous

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By *iker64worceMan
1 week ago

redditch

At the least it cold do with make over and some new features

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By *urvykira94Woman
1 week ago

Glasgow

100% babe xxx

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By *inceIlkestonMan
1 week ago

Ilkeston


"Just like before over time messages get removed by the site but like before you are able to use the save message

Hence why you don't see a link from previous messages on the profile it fades away "

As a web developer I can think of many ways to improve this and all dating sites as I used to run 7 myself.

Anyone want to back such a project?

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By *og-ManMan
1 week ago

somewhere


"After 5 years, I've realised this site promises much but delivers little. Multitudes of messages never get read or responded to and I'm not the only one who has stated this. After 5 years, I have no expectation of anything on any level. It's fascinating to see complaints, especially from females, that guys are so aggressive, send pics of dicks and bombarding with messages, but then they won't even bother to respond when a polite message of introduction does not even get read. They say a sign of insanity is to keep repeating the same process, hoping for a different outcome.

"

No reply is a reply and you know that from other threads

You might not be happy with that but that's the rules

What were you promised when you joined the site that you're not getting

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By *ucka39Man
1 week ago

Newcastle


"After 5 years, I've realised this site promises much but delivers little. Multitudes of messages never get read or responded to and I'm not the only one who has stated this. After 5 years, I have no expectation of anything on any level. It's fascinating to see complaints, especially from females, that guys are so aggressive, send pics of dicks and bombarding with messages, but then they won't even bother to respond when a polite message of introduction does not even get read. They say a sign of insanity is to keep repeating the same process, hoping for a different outcome.

No reply is a reply and you know that from other threads

You might not be happy with that but that's the rules

What were you promised when you joined the site that you're not getting "

And the site provides a service for people to possibly engage with others and enjoy whatever it may be, which the site isn't responsible for any outcome

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By *eridian_blurMan
1 week ago

somewhere


"Please note that not every new single female on here gets 1500+ messages. Cos I dont!. Also I try and reply to all my messages."

If you really wanted, I could send you 1500 messages saying hi

I think OP is upset he’s not getting replies or something.. I’ve not been here long, had a few conversations with people but no spark so no game. That’s life

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By *eridian_blurMan
1 week ago

somewhere


"After 5 years, I've realised this site promises much but delivers little. Multitudes of messages never get read or responded to and I'm not the only one who has stated this. After 5 years, I have no expectation of anything on any level. It's fascinating to see complaints, especially from females, that guys are so aggressive, send pics of dicks and bombarding with messages, but then they won't even bother to respond when a polite message of introduction does not even get read. They say a sign of insanity is to keep repeating the same process, hoping for a different outcome.

"

The absolute sense of entitlement from this post, wow.

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