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"Crossdresser decides they are now trans and moves to the trans category. Nothing has changed other than they now feel they are trans. What has been achieved? " This. On other sites where people can opt for whichever one they please, many make the choice that feels right for them. | |||
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"Personally, it would very much be appreciated if TS was separate from TG/CD I don't have male bits, have never been male, and it is somewhat annoying to have to repeatedly deal with messages from men looking for TG/CD gay sex. I'd also suggest some methodology so that TS's can define themselves as pre or post op transmale or transfemale ![]() What’s the difference between a pre op trans and a TV? Other than one arbitrarily deciding they are different than the other? Cause that’s all it actually is. One decides he’s a she and that’s meant to be that. | |||
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" What’s the difference between a pre op trans and a TV? Other than one arbitrarily deciding they are different than the other? Cause that’s all it actually is. One decides he’s a she and that’s meant to be that. " A pre-op TS has been medically assessed as being born TS female (brain sex different to genital sex), suffering from Gender Dysphoria caused by that brain/body mismatch, and is/seeks medical therapy. Being TS is a born biological human reality. Not a sexuality nor gender expression. A TV (usually) is a male brained / male bodied person who enjoys cross dressing as part of their masculine identity. Often but not always associated to latent homosexual desires. The two are very different and claiming a TS is someone who has decided they want to be a women demonstrates a total lack of understanding of the issue and of human sexual development. Referring to a TS female as a "he" is called transphobia. In short, a TS is not a highly dedicated TV as you imply. They did not decide to be a woman, and they are not a "he". | |||
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" What’s the difference between a pre op trans and a TV? Other than one arbitrarily deciding they are different than the other? Cause that’s all it actually is. One decides he’s a she and that’s meant to be that. A pre-op TS has been medically assessed as being born TS female (brain sex different to genital sex), suffering from Gender Dysphoria caused by that brain/body mismatch, and is/seeks medical therapy. Being TS is a born biological human reality. Not a sexuality nor gender expression. A TV (usually) is a male brained / male bodied person who enjoys cross dressing as part of their masculine identity. Often but not always associated to latent homosexual desires. The two are very different and claiming a TS is someone who has decided they want to be a women demonstrates a total lack of understanding of the issue and of human sexual development. Referring to a TS female as a "he" is called transphobia. In short, a TS is not a highly dedicated TV as you imply. They did not decide to be a woman, and they are not a "he"." Give it a rest with the transphobia crap. You are pulling that card to shit down an opinion you don’t like. It’s not transphobia just cause you don’t like it. There is no clinical test for brain gender. But if make up nonsense justifies you feeling superior to someone else crack on. Maybe you need it. | |||
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"Give it a rest with the transphobia crap. You are pulling that card to shit down an opinion you don’t like. It’s not transphobia just cause you don’t like it." Sorry. I'm simply stating the law. If a person is deliberately referring to a transsex female as "he" i.e. rejecting their legally recognized sex, then that is transphobia. Nothing to do with shooting down opinions I don't like. I believe all opinions, including those I do not agree with, are free to be aired... and debated. "There is no clinical test for brain gender." Regarding gender and sex. It is important to differentiate the two. Sex is a physical characteristic i.e. the male or female brain. Gender is the psychological aspect of brain sex i.e. the innate sense of sexed self Gender Expression is the way that an individual manifests the gender i.e. through clothing / appearance (that is why TG is a more modern name for TV, as it refers to a person who adopts the traditional social gender norms of the opposite sex) There is no physical medical test for brain sex, in that you are correct. There is however a well established methodology for determining if a person is transsex i.e. has a brain sex as demonstrated by the mind's gender, that differs from the genital sex (sex assigned at birth). Further, postmortem neurological anatomical studies have both identified the physical markers differentiating between the male and female brain, and that in the case of transsex people, irrespective of medical intervention or not, the brain aligns with the sex they stated they were in life, not that assigned to them at birth / or determined by chromosomes. "But if make up nonsense justifies you feeling superior to someone else crack on. Maybe you need it." I'm sorry you feel that I am being superior in stating that a TS female is not the same as a TG/TV male. There are no feelings of superiority in my mind, for if there were, I would hold the opinion that a TS is a highly dedicated i.e. more developed, TV. As stated above, I do not hold that opinion. Transsexism has nothing to do with crossdressing nor sexuality. That is not a statement of superiority, it is a statement of medical fact. It is clear we will not agree on this issue; that you seem upset by my views for which I am sorry; and that this forum is not the place to hold such a debate. As such I bid you well and end the conversation here. Take care. | |||
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"I'm sorry that I have upset you. That was not my intention at all. I'm simply stating medical and legal facts. Give it a rest with the transphobia crap. You are pulling that card to shit down an opinion you don’t like. It’s not transphobia just cause you don’t like it. Sorry. I'm simply stating the law. If a person is deliberately referring to a transsex female as "he" i.e. rejecting their legally recognized sex, then that is transphobia. Nothing to do with shooting down opinions I don't like. I believe all opinions, including those I do not agree with, are free to be aired... and debated. There is no clinical test for brain gender. Regarding gender and sex. It is important to differentiate the two. Sex is a physical characteristic i.e. the male or female brain. Gender is the psychological aspect of brain sex i.e. the innate sense of sexed self Gender Expression is the way that an individual manifests the gender i.e. through clothing / appearance (that is why TG is a more modern name for TV, as it refers to a person who adopts the traditional social gender norms of the opposite sex) There is no physical medical test for brain sex, in that you are correct. There is however a well established methodology for determining if a person is transsex i.e. has a brain sex as demonstrated by the mind's gender, that differs from the genital sex (sex assigned at birth). Further, postmortem neurological anatomical studies have both identified the physical markers differentiating between the male and female brain, and that in the case of transsex people, irrespective of medical intervention or not, the brain aligns with the sex they stated they were in life, not that assigned to them at birth / or determined by chromosomes. But if make up nonsense justifies you feeling superior to someone else crack on. Maybe you need it. I'm sorry you feel that I am being superior in stating that a TS female is not the same as a TG/TV male. There are no feelings of superiority in my mind, for if there were, I would hold the opinion that a TS is a highly dedicated i.e. more developed, TV. As stated above, I do not hold that opinion. Transsexism has nothing to do with crossdressing nor sexuality. That is not a statement of superiority, it is a statement of medical fact. It is clear we will not agree on this issue; that you seem upset by my views for which I am sorry; and that this forum is not the place to hold such a debate. As such I bid you well and end the conversation here. Take care." Trading society norms as you call them are a construct of a patriarchal society and, women have found these disempowering and constraining. Hence feminism. | |||
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"I'm sorry that I have upset you. That was not my intention at all. I'm simply stating medical and legal facts. Give it a rest with the transphobia crap. You are pulling that card to shit down an opinion you don’t like. It’s not transphobia just cause you don’t like it. Sorry. I'm simply stating the law. If a person is deliberately referring to a transsex female as "he" i.e. rejecting their legally recognized sex, then that is transphobia. Nothing to do with shooting down opinions I don't like. I believe all opinions, including those I do not agree with, are free to be aired... and debated. There is no clinical test for brain gender. Regarding gender and sex. It is important to differentiate the two. Sex is a physical characteristic i.e. the male or female brain. Gender is the psychological aspect of brain sex i.e. the innate sense of sexed self Gender Expression is the way that an individual manifests the gender i.e. through clothing / appearance (that is why TG is a more modern name for TV, as it refers to a person who adopts the traditional social gender norms of the opposite sex) There is no physical medical test for brain sex, in that you are correct. There is however a well established methodology for determining if a person is transsex i.e. has a brain sex as demonstrated by the mind's gender, that differs from the genital sex (sex assigned at birth). Further, postmortem neurological anatomical studies have both identified the physical markers differentiating between the male and female brain, and that in the case of transsex people, irrespective of medical intervention or not, the brain aligns with the sex they stated they were in life, not that assigned to them at birth / or determined by chromosomes. But if make up nonsense justifies you feeling superior to someone else crack on. Maybe you need it. I'm sorry you feel that I am being superior in stating that a TS female is not the same as a TG/TV male. There are no feelings of superiority in my mind, for if there were, I would hold the opinion that a TS is a highly dedicated i.e. more developed, TV. As stated above, I do not hold that opinion. Transsexism has nothing to do with crossdressing nor sexuality. That is not a statement of superiority, it is a statement of medical fact. It is clear we will not agree on this issue; that you seem upset by my views for which I am sorry; and that this forum is not the place to hold such a debate. As such I bid you well and end the conversation here. Take care." I’m not upset by your views. Believe whatever comforts you. | |||
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"Tradi[tional][sic] society norms as you call them are a construct of a patriarchal society and, women have found these disempowering and constraining. Hence feminism. " I totally agree. Traditional social gender norms i.e. regimented "acceptable" gender expressions for females, are a social construct of a patriarchal society, the principle tool of female oppression and feminism is the fight against that sexism. Likewise, defining a TS female by her outward appearance/fashion choices, instead of her born biological reality, is transsexism. Founded upon binary sexist theology and manifesting as transmisogyny. However, again, I'd suggest this is not the place for a debate upon feminism, transfeminism, and/or the transsexism and transmisogyny common within straight and gay males. | |||
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"Doesn't matter if you're Ts/Tv/CD/Sissy or transformers... we are only kink for men! 😁 " Yes you are ![]() | |||
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"Things have definitely gotten harder to define under the transgender umbrella. TV was used for someone who took it more seriously than a CD. The TERFS renaming everything now as AGP But then Americans categorized TV as just shy of full SRS at which point you were TS. Personally, I view TS as set on a pathway to transition. Whether you have been assessed yet or on the way. If you've spoken to a doctor or are on a waiting list, you're on the TS bus. It may not have left the station, but you're on your way. TV is more sexual. Doll up for the weekend or the night, but then she goes back into the box and Barry turns into a plumber Monday to Friday. Wouldn't take a massive leap for Barry to become Barietta and graduate to TS. Maybe a big life change, loss of partner or cancer scare to say "to hell with societal rules! I NEED to do this!! Cd is for fetish, but I'd class as TV-lite. May or may not have a beard still. Prob doesn't bother with a wig. Sissy, loves the frillies and the image of being in them. Dreams of a woman putting them on themselves A Lil bit problematic in today's world tbh Hairy panty wearers - low effort, likes shiny material on their genitals. That's all." This has clarified a lot for me! Although it's the hairy panty wears that genuinely get on my tits, but weird you're wearing your wife's knickers while meeting other women | |||
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"Coming from a different angle Why doesn't the site have a separate category for Transgender/TV/CD couples? Currently only MF, MM and FF are available as options. Why no TT? Seems like a far more egregious oversight to me than the uninspired "Cd AnD TrAnS aR dIfFeReNt" hobby horse that gets routinely peddled out by normies/outsiders, who just want to say something for the sake of saying it, and does nothing but feed into a division that doesn't really exist amongst the community concerned in my experience." ![]() | |||
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"Correct Terms: Crossdresser - Someone who dressers the opposite gender at birth. Transvestite - The term transvestite is considered outdated and offensive. It was used in older medical literature and media, often pathologizing people and conflating gender identity with fetishism or mental illness. Transsexual - Sexualised slur (which sits in the same camp as Shemale and Tranny). Transgender - Someone who has changed their Gender (not limited to medically or surgically) He-She/Shemale/Lady Boy - Fetishizing and degrading. Trap/Femboy/Sissy - Fetishizing and Objectifying, should only be used con sensually. Also Calling a transgender person a crossdresser implies that their gender identity isn't real, and that they are simply wearing clothes for expression or pleasure, which invalidates their lived experience and identity. The Gender groups that should be updated to: Man Woman Crossdresser Transgender Feminine Transgender Masculine Couples should be removed altogether and just add Person 1's Gender & Person 2's Gender" Sounds good, although I'd add Gender Fluid and Non-Binary | |||
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"TV is crossdresser. Tg should have tits, that would help me out. If no tits but live life as a female then go under TV until tits start sprouting. " Here's the definitive explanation we didn't know we needed, but received anyway 🙄 | |||
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"TV is crossdresser. Tg should have tits, that would help me out. If no tits but live life as a female then go under TV until tits start sprouting. Here's the definitive explanation we didn't know we needed, but received anyway 🙄" You are welcome ![]() | |||
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"Tradi[tional][sic] society norms as you call them are a construct of a patriarchal society and, women have found these disempowering and constraining. Hence feminism. I totally agree. Traditional social gender norms i.e. regimented "acceptable" gender expressions for females, are a social construct of a patriarchal society, the principle tool of female oppression and feminism is the fight against that sexism. Likewise, defining a TS female by her outward appearance/fashion choices, instead of her born biological reality, is transsexism. Founded upon binary sexist theology and manifesting as transmisogyny. However, again, I'd suggest this is not the place for a debate upon feminism, transfeminism, and/or the transsexism and transmisogyny common within straight and gay males." A TS female was born a man, they are biologically male, that's the reality. They have required medical assistance to feminise themselves, Mrs x | |||
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"Can we make it possible so these searches can be separated? I" Agree.. There are far too many blokes on here with a sex change trying to coax straight men, lying to them and the website calling themselves women when they simply aren't. | |||
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"Doesn't matter if you're Ts/Tv/CD/Sissy or transformers... we are only kink for men! 😁 " I'd love to meet you as michelle. | |||
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