FabSwingers.com forum: Is it time to put Fab behind a pay wall?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

With the increasing amount of online abuse, is it time to put Fab behind a pay wall?

Should we all be ID'd the same way as we would be to login to a banking app?

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

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By *neeyedwillieMan
over a year ago

Darlington

Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day..

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By *hades Of GreyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"No"

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

"No"
straight to the point no messing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A pay wall wouldn't stop abuse anyway, people can still be idiots whilst paying. Best thing one can do is report the abuse, get the abuser shut down.

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming

"A pay wall wouldn't stop abuse anyway, people can still be idiots whilst paying. Best thing one can do is report the abuse, get the abuser shut down."

It may stop some of the relentless fake profiles that appear over a weekend and then vanish.

Wouldn’t mind it being paid only if it significantly changes the experience.

Our main reason for filtering single guys is the majority of zero effort profiles.

Not knocking the genuine guys.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"With the increasing amount of online abuse, is it time to put Fab behind a pay wall?

Should we all be ID'd the same way as we would be to login to a banking app? "

In my opinion, no.

If you're finding that profiles that haven't paid are being abusive filter them out of your searches. If you receive abuse from anyone report it

I personally don't think it's necessary to have to same kind of logging in process that a banking app does. What would it achieve?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Where are you finding abuse?

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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Personally I wouldn't have an issue with photo ID being necessary to set up a profile but others wouldn't be willing to do that.

But a paywall? No. The site has always been free to use if you don't want to upgrade which is pretty unique and a great thing.

People with money can abuse others. People with money can set up profiles for kicks rather than actual meets.

There are filters that help to block contact from new profiles, unverified and others. Plus the good old block button.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Nope, because all the tools are available to report, just like any app or site, rather than taking matters in there own hands use what is available. So appropriate actions can be taken....

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By *he MinionMan
over a year ago

Surrey

Paying for membership wont stop someone determined to be an arsehole, be an arsehole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the worst abuse I have ever received on the adult Scene was from men on a site men pay but women don't. Forcing people to pay would likely increase abuse, because some will feel they are entitled to meets for paying.

Not sure how ID would work, I think it would put vast numbers of genuine non abusive people off joining.

I would suggest using filters to block non site supporters from messaging.

Is the online abuse you mention what you have received or what you perceive to be occurring in general?

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By *itygamesMan
over a year ago

if there were a way the answer would be one account only per person/couple...

blatatnly what happens is , you block a user , they just use another account of theres to still track you in the chat rooms or look at your profile and statuses etc.

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

what are you doing to get abuse? I am a single guy on here for 7 years and I have never had any abusive messages...

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By *arley QuimWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

No need. It's easy to tailor the site to use it how you want already.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We already pay for site membership to receive extra benefits. How about paying for a service that verifies your identity?

As previously mentioned, this is similar to how you verify your identity on a banking app.

That way, you know that the person is who they claim to be.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Not many people are going to be willing to provide identifying documents on line to be stored however securely and pay for the privilege. I've never had to do this to access my banking app. I wouldn't do it to access fab.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

https://m.fabswingers.com/content/safer-meets.html

The information and tips provided here might help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I genuinely don't think paying for Fab will help the site whatsoever, it may even close it through lack of subscriptions.

Look at it from a single guys point of view, just say the cock to pussy ratio is 100:1. I have a 1 in hundred chance of getting a meet and that's before I factor in the profiles who say no beards, you have to be 6', must send face pic with first message, must host at yours etc. My chances have just gone down significantly.

I would absolutely not pay for this 'opportunity' to meet someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We already pay for site membership to receive extra benefits. How about paying for a service that verifies your identity?

As previously mentioned, this is similar to how you verify your identity on a banking app.

That way, you know that the person is who they claim to be."

I would not pay to verify my identity on Fab. I have never paid to identify myself on my banking app.

I would leave Fab and use a different site I am on that's totally free for females...

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Don't we all just love extra rules and regulations that aren't needed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the increasing amount of online abuse, is it time to put Fab behind a pay wall?

Should we all be ID'd the same way as we would be to login to a banking app? "

Personally no, I don't give my real name on here so login like a banking app is a hard no for me...

In terms of pay wall nope... as i say the idiots also have money. Having or not having money doesnt dictate how a person is. Its about using common sense in yourself to sieve the wheat from the chaff

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

No. Look at what you can do to change the situation. Having barriers would reduce the volume of users and make it worse in other ways

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day.."

Why do so many people say Fab is all about money? The evidence is right there that this simply isn't true.

There are costs involved in running a website and the 'site supporters' fee is really very low compared to other dating sites.

I'm the first to complain about the evils of capitalism (proper lefty, me), but £12 for three months seems closer to covering costs than the owners being "all about the money"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No"

Why am I not surprised the person the balaclava wants nothing to do with ID’ing. Hahaha.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No

Why am I not surprised the person the balaclava wants nothing to do with ID’ing. Hahaha. "

Maybe join another site if you are so concerned about ID'ing that you have to make a personal remark about another Fabster.

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By *erry 58Man
over a year ago

Doncaster

If they introduced a paywall , the amount of users would be halved overnight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would that be a bad thing?

Quite possibly a very large portion of that lost half would be the ones we could do without.

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By *assy LassieWoman
over a year ago

Near Glasgow

"Would that be a bad thing?

Quite possibly a very large portion of that lost half would be the ones we could do without. "

What half would that be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would that be a bad thing?

Quite possibly a very large portion of that lost half would be the ones we could do without. "

Like you...

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By *glyBettyTV/TS
over a year ago

Take a guess

It wouldn't stop abuse.

Lots of people are already paying to not meet anyone. I'm sure there's many users who would happily pay for the privilege to send abusive messages.

At best the abuse would just turn into the kind of passive-aggressive needling you get from certain people in the forums.

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By * older menCouple (MM)
over a year ago

North Shields

Photo ID is the best way to stop fake profiles also the wouldn't be able to keep coming back with a different name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Photo ID is the best way to stop fake profiles also the wouldn't be able to keep coming back with a different name "

No way would I show photo ID on a sex site...

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By *inceIlkestonMan
over a year ago

Ilkeston

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day.."

I'm not sure how you figure this. They don't make much from free members, just some commission on adverts. The quality would improve a lot of it was pay only and most users would happily pay more to deal with less crap. I used to run my own dating and adult sites.

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day..

But you no longer run your own dating and adult sites, do you? So not successful I'm guessing 🤷🏾‍♂️

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day..

I wouldn't pay more. I would be off to another free site...

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By *dd_soxMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

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By *dd_soxMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

"Personally I wouldn't have an issue with photo ID being necessary to set up a profile but others wouldn't be willing to do that.

But a paywall? No. The site has always been free to use if you don't want to upgrade which is pretty unique and a great thing.

People with money can abuse others. People with money can set up profiles for kicks rather than actual meets.

There are filters that help to block contact from new profiles, unverified and others. Plus the good old block button. "

Not everyone has 'acceptable' photo ID...

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By *eggieMarshmallowWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

Rich people are the biggest cunts around

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By *rgoodnbadMan
over a year ago

greenock

"I genuinely don't think paying for Fab will help the site whatsoever, it may even close it through lack of subscriptions.

I would absolutely not pay for this 'opportunity' to meet someone."

☝️☝️☝️

This explains it quite clearly for us guys.

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By *agan_PairCouple
over a year ago

portchester

100% yes, we’ve been chatting about this recently and think it should definitely put messaging and viewing more than. Single photo behind a paywall. Whilst it would not eliminate fakes and time wasters it would definitely reduce them significantly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"100% yes, we’ve been chatting about this recently and think it should definitely put messaging and viewing more than. Single photo behind a paywall. Whilst it would not eliminate fakes and time wasters it would definitely reduce them significantly. "

You aren't even photo verified...

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By *agan_PairCouple
over a year ago

portchester

You aren't even photo verified..."

And that makes our opinion less valid ? At the moment paying does not give us anything more that we need, we have paid in the past and would definitely pay if that was the only way anyone could send messages / view full profile details.

If the incentive was there to pay for a better experience we would take it.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"Rich people are the biggest cunts around "

A lot of cars are designed ad marketed especially for them!

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By *eggieMarshmallowWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Rich people are the biggest cunts around

A lot of cars are designed ad marketed especially for them!"

Of course, why market to people who can't afford it

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Rich people are the biggest cunts around "

Why?

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day..

But you no longer run your own dating and adult sites, do you? So not successful I'm guessing 🤷🏾‍♂️"

Early retirent?

He IS 59 after all!

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day..

But you no longer run your own dating and adult sites, do you? So not successful I'm guessing 🤷🏾‍♂️

Early retirent?

He IS 59 after all!"

I'm sure he's more than capable of answering for himself should he choose to do so.

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By *oung GunnerMan
over a year ago

Cleckheaton

There is no point been horrible to someone , I would rather be kind , supportive & respectful , and treat others how you expect to be treated .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely not, the non fee paying aspect to this site is the main reason there are so many lovely people on here it’s also the reason there are so many time wasters and bonified clowns !! A better way would be to provide a valid form of id upon joining so once banned you stay banned !

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

I used to pay to use the websites of Fab's competitors and actually much preferred those. However, they couldn't compete with the behemoth that is Fab and the rest is history. By paying you automatically had a filter and you knew people approached things with more seriousness and commitment. Their chatrooms were actually fun too.

I wouldn't mind if they introduced a premium section here. I'd have no problem paying slightly more to be ignored by a classier tier of swingers instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely not, the non fee paying aspect to this site is the main reason there are so many lovely people on here it’s also the reason there are so many time wasters and bonified clowns !! A better way would be to provide a valid form of id upon joining so once banned you stay banned ! "

Can't see many wanting to give ID and then you open up a can of worms with GDPR.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

"Rich people are the biggest cunts around "

What do you class as rich ?

Is there a cut off point when you are nice but a few quid more and you become a cunt !!

In your world is rich from income or asset etc. Maybe ask a farmer.....

In what price bracket do you class yourself?

I find rich, poor or somewhere in between you have nice people, average people and complete twats in all levels of society.

I tend to concentrate on being the best person I can and don't judge others unless I've actually met them in real life.

And if they aren't nice, I move on, don't waste my valuable time.

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By *eggieMarshmallowWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Rich people are the biggest cunts around

What do you class as rich ?

Is there a cut off point when you are nice but a few quid more and you become a cunt !!

In your world is rich from income or asset etc. Maybe ask a farmer.....

In what price bracket do you class yourself?

I find rich, poor or somewhere in between you have nice people, average people and complete twats in all levels of society.

I tend to concentrate on being the best person I can and don't judge others unless I've actually met them in real life.

And if they aren't nice, I move on, don't waste my valuable time.

Not all rich people are cunts, I think theres a level of evil that can only be shown by rich people exploiting the money they've got and unfortunately in this capitalist society money is power and power corrupts

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name

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By *assy LassieWoman
over a year ago

Near Glasgow

I wouldn't provide ID for any sort of dating site nevermind a site of this nature

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By *olinOfBathMan
over a year ago

Corsham

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name"

May I borrow a fiver, please...?

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By *eggieMarshmallowWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name

May I borrow a fiver, please...?"

So you can get me some tea?

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

No, I wouldn't use it if it was. You have the option to be a site supporter and to then only receive messages from other site supporters, blocking those that aren't.

I've used the site for many years and never had a problem. I think people need to do their due diligence properly, anything too good to be true, usually is. Think with your brain and not other parts of your body, or just not thinking at all. Signs are there, you just have to recognise them.

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By *iltMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen

just causing more and more complication!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think the resounding answer is no. It's unwanted and wouldn't help, etc. clueless is, as clueless does 🤡

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By *eicsbimaleMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

I normally only respond to site supporters, so not had any abuse yet

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By *olinOfBathMan
over a year ago

Corsham

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name

May I borrow a fiver, please...?

So you can get me some tea?"

What happened to the last lot...?

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By *entleman_racerMan
over a year ago

nearby

"I think the resounding answer is no. It's unwanted and wouldn't help, etc. clueless is, as clueless does 🤡"

Hardly a representative sample to claim that. Just seems to be a bunch of poor people whinging

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By *eggieMarshmallowWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name

May I borrow a fiver, please...?

So you can get me some tea?

What happened to the last lot...?"

I can't ration for that long

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By *inceIlkestonMan
over a year ago

Ilkeston

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day..

But you no longer run your own dating and adult sites, do you? So not successful I'm guessing 🤷🏾‍♂️"

I promoted 5 sites from 2004 to 2007 as a side hustle. One was named after a week known site that featured in the news of the world. Crazy Frog ringtone ads paid for my Christmas

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By *olinOfBathMan
over a year ago

Corsham

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name

May I borrow a fiver, please...?

So you can get me some tea?

What happened to the last lot...?

I can't ration for that long"

Ohmigawd, April '23. Where did 19 months go...?!?

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By *eggieMarshmallowWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name

May I borrow a fiver, please...?

So you can get me some tea?

What happened to the last lot...?

I can't ration for that long

Ohmigawd, April '23. Where did 19 months go...?!?

Time flies when you're having fun without me

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By *olinOfBathMan
over a year ago

Corsham

The bracket that I fall in is - I have a tenner to my name

May I borrow a fiver, please...?

So you can get me some tea?

What happened to the last lot...?

I can't ration for that long

Ohmigawd, April '23. Where did 19 months go...?!?

Time flies when you're having fun without me

Ouch.

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By *oung GunnerMan
over a year ago

Cleckheaton

Please dont think I’m been horrible here but some times it would be great if the genuine guys would be given a chance to meet some of you lovely ladies but it seems rather hard as as its like a tick box , you must be “ TALL “ what is it with this tall business ? does it really have to be end of all things , or we must be this , we must be that , or women wont meet blokes who aren’t verified by meets, but if we dont get meets how are we ment to get verified ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Please dont think I’m been horrible here but some times it would be great if the genuine guys would be given a chance to meet some of you lovely ladies but it seems rather hard as as its like a tick box , you must be “ TALL “ what is it with this tall business ? does it really have to be end of all things , or we must be this , we must be that , or women wont meet blokes who aren’t verified by meets, but if we dont get meets how are we ment to get verified ? "

Just popping to shop to fetch some popcorn

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Probably best to start a separate thread on it. Try the lounge, up the top.

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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

But interest and attraction is often a kind of 'tick box'excercise.

99.5% of people on here won't be compatible with eachother for one reason or another and you can't control or dictate people's preferences.

Just because it's a swingers site and people use it to meet others for sex sometimes, it doesn't remove their personal tastes and wants.

That's life. Always will be.

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By *oobieTrapCouple
over a year ago

london

"Unless legally forced to do so, fab won't go behind a Pay wall.

It will lose too much money if it does.

And it's always about money at the end if the day.."

How can it lose money if it’s already free?

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By *oung GunnerMan
over a year ago

Cleckheaton

But interest and attraction is often a kind of 'tick box'excercise.

99.5% of people on here won't be compatible with eachother for one reason or another and you can't control or dictate people's preferences.

Just because it's a swingers site and people use it to meet others for sex sometimes, it doesn't remove their personal tastes and wants.

That's life. Always will be. "

I’m not trying to control or dictate to anyone .

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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

But interest and attraction is often a kind of 'tick box'excercise.

99.5% of people on here won't be compatible with eachother for one reason or another and you can't control or dictate people's preferences.

Just because it's a swingers site and people use it to meet others for sex sometimes, it doesn't remove their personal tastes and wants.

That's life. Always will be.

I’m not trying to control or dictate to anyone . "

I wasn't suggesting you were

But people can ask for whatever they want in terms of who they'd like to meet. It's their choice entirely.

I'd actually worry if people had zero preferences and would be willing to meet just anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've always said that photo id should be mandatory, I'm not sure if it is just my profiles but every time I've made a new profile it wouldn't let me go any further until I had photo verified.

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By *andomusernameMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

There's a large number of things that could be done to make this site better, let's be honest, it's all a bit dated.

A paywall, perhaps, it's a difficult one, other sites do this and it works for them, however i wouldn't pay for Fab, beyond a relatively cheap gold/silver fee while it's in it's current state.

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By *endalshaggersCouple
over a year ago

Lake District

OK, and if they put it behind a paywall tomorrow, what exactly are you expecting?

For a site you can use for free or upgrade for minimal cost it does the job. If you are wanting X Y Z premium features then I guess it won't happen.

I understand as part of being "free" it can attract certain individuals that many may not want to associate with.

The only option I feel may work, for some at least is when you join (or for those of us that are already members, it requires you to tick the boxes on next sign in) you tick what you want from here - eg all of those couples who strictly meet in clubs can all have their own "space", those who want private meets are all in one space, those who are brand new to swinging can all be in one space. Then you can only talk to those who are interested in the same stuff. At the moment there's tick boxes but if someone only wants to meet in a club for example, they aren't going to chat to Joe Bloggs who has never been to one before and doesn't want to go to one just because they've both ticked they enjoy filming.

I get it's ticking boxes and people lie all the time so it may not be a perfect solution, but it's the only thing I could think of that may solve some of the constant moaning on here.

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By *ympho6969Woman
over a year ago

glasgow

I think it would help with the new accounts only fishing for wank material, but don't think it would fix all the issues.

Good and bad people exist, can't them all out.

I've just had a multiple time verified by meet account offer money... so. And a site supporter. Blocked and reported

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By *dd_soxMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

"Personally I wouldn't have an issue with photo ID being necessary to set up a profile but others wouldn't be willing to do that.

But a paywall? No. The site has always been free to use if you don't want to upgrade which is pretty unique and a great thing.

People with money can abuse others. People with money can set up profiles for kicks rather than actual meets.

There are filters that help to block contact from new profiles, unverified and others. Plus the good old block button. "

I don't have any photo ID.

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By *attering_ramMan
over a year ago

Near You

If it’s not broken , don’t fix it

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By *herrybakewellCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

If it made the users more reliable and stopped the amount of time wasters....I'd happily pay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I genuinely don't think paying for Fab will help the site whatsoever, it may even close it through lack of subscriptions.

I would absolutely not pay for this 'opportunity' to meet someone."
I agree with you on this

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By *ikerboy9ooCouple
over a year ago

stroud

"If it’s not broken , don’t fix it "

Here here, the most sensible message yet

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By *iveMinutesAloneCouple
over a year ago

Halesowen

A lot of people do think it's broken or at the very least, that it can be improved, that's the point of this sub-forum 😂 and more specifically, this thread 😁

W (male)

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The broader choice of people is what gives the site its power. Block anyone who you're not interested in, including use of message filters. And report anyone who is abusive to Admin.

No reply is no thanks and blocking makes it a permanent inability to reply back with abuse

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