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"What sparked this was there's a female local to us who advertises only bareback. No issue with what she wants to do, but we choose not to play with people who play with people who actively seek bareback only. Just comes down to informed consent. " How do you know anyone you meet has always played protected? | |||
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" How do you know anyone you meet has always played protected?" Clearly we don't, that's a ridiculous argument. How do you know someone you are looking at playing with hadn't been convicted of sexual assault? You don't. But I bet you'd not play with them if they told you. | |||
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" How do you know anyone you meet has always played protected? Clearly we don't, that's a ridiculous argument. How do you know someone you are looking at playing with hadn't been convicted of sexual assault? You don't. But I bet you'd not play with them if they told you. " Hardly ridiculous, you stated you dont want to meet anyone whos met this woman, but you dont know how many others shes met that havent verified her, you will never know, so you could still meet someone unknowingly | |||
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"Would be great to automatically block all past and future users who've verified or been verified by a particular profile." I don't think this is a particularly workable or practical suggestion to be honest.... Just do your own homework and study the verification trail. If you are using condoms then by your own logic you will be protected anyway .. | |||
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"Would be great to automatically block all past and future users who've verified or been verified by a particular profile. I don't think this is a particularly workable or practical suggestion to be honest.... Just do your own homework and study the verification trail. If you are using condoms then by your own logic you will be protected anyway .." This If you're always practicing safe sex then that's all you can do. If you assume that anyone you play with may have at some point had unprotected sex, or that people they have met have had unprotected sex, or that the people that met the people that met the people that met..........you get the picture? A | |||
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"Okay, so you say you're not willing to meet bi guys on your profile. How do you know guys you meet are straight? Would you meet someone who had been verified by a guy? " I dont, thats not what your post is about though ur wanting to block anyone associated with a certain profile... and yeah i have met a guy whose been verified by a guy | |||
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"Okay, so you say you're not willing to meet bi guys on your profile. How do you know guys you meet are straight? Would you meet someone who had been verified by a guy? " But not all verifications are play verifications. I have verifications from guys who I have met and chatted to at group socials, at clubs and at gangbangs. I haven't played with any of them. | |||
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"And yet everyone insists on verified people but yet verified people still don’t turn up (fact) and everyone keeps on posting about verified people. I am yet to hear a good argument about why 90% of the members on this site insist of verified people. You read all the time on profiles and actually in forums like this members saying “I’ve been verified by a person I’ve never met what can I do”. The fact is people are getting fake verified all the time. And yet everyone wants to meet verified people " Here's a good reason. If we see a profile we like and they've been verified by people in clubs, by people that we know or by people that are long standing site members.....then we're 99% sure that it's a profile belonging to someone genuinely interested in meeting, rather than (as you say) one of those 'fake verified' profile where the only veri is from a hidden profile or one that has equally dubious veris. Checking the verification trail helps a lot. They're a very useful tool if you know what you're looking for. So yes. We want to meet verified profiles, but only those with certain verifications. A | |||
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"Ok so here is one fir you. A couple was on this forum the other day saying they’d come across a profile that had all their pics used and yet that fake profile had all their verification led on and had been verified by site admin. How about you read through that fake profile because they’ve got plenty of good verifications and arrange to meet that profile. You only ever ever know someone you’ve actually met, never ever by smooth talking profiles. Your argument is flawed" Nope. My argument isn't flawed. Sorry if not being verified has affected your ability to meet. But I can spot profiles that I'm 99% (often 100%) certain are who they say they are and having been on her for 15 years now I've had one no show on my old single profile. If we're ever unsure if verifications are real we move on. Or we ask to chat on the phone. Or video call. If you're planning meets based solely on words on a page and messages typed and exchanged online then you're setting yourself up to fail. A | |||
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"And yet everyone insists on verified people but yet verified people still don’t turn up (fact) and everyone keeps on posting about verified people. I am yet to hear a good argument about why 90% of the members on this site insist of verified people. You read all the time on profiles and actually in forums like this members saying “I’ve been verified by a person I’ve never met what can I do”. The fact is people are getting fake verified all the time. And yet everyone wants to meet verified people " This isnt what the origianl poster is posting about though, they want to be able to block everyone whos verified by a certain profile | |||
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"The point being made is that the profile they want to bloke has got verifications on them which apparently are ok. So you either believe in verifications which they do or you don’t. So they very fact that you want to now block profiles that have been verified by a certain profile makes a mockery of the verification system. That is the point" They dont want to meet them because this person whos got the verifications only does bareback, its not a mockery of the verification system its got nothing to do with fake profiles etc | |||
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"Noting to do with this post but just a response to the pathetic comment, trust me my lack of verifications has not reduced my ability to meet. I just don’t wear them like a badge of honour. I’ve met plenty. " So why worry about others perception of verifications then? Seems you're getting angry about something that doesn't apparently affect you and that's both pointless and a little odd. But hey... A | |||
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"Noting to do with this post but just a response to the pathetic comment, trust me my lack of verifications has not reduced my ability to meet. I just don’t wear them like a badge of honour. I’ve met plenty. " What pathetic comment are you refering to?? The OP has asked to be able to block all people who verifiy a certain profile as they dont wish to meet any of them because this profile only meets bareback, you obviously havent read the full posts before commenting about not reading into verifications | |||
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"The pathetic comment I was referring to was not made by you, it was in reference to a couple who’d made a comment before you. So again please read" Maybe hitting reply with quote to who you are replying to.. you should maybe read what the original posters posted about | |||
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"What sparked this was there's a female local to us who advertises only bareback. No issue with what she wants to do, but we choose not to play with people who play with people who actively seek bareback only. Just comes down to informed consent. " If you are playing only with condoms then I really do not get the issue here. If you want to remain completely safe then you would have to ensure not to meet anyone and your partner the same. Otherwise you accept people's word and take that chance like anyone else.. | |||
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" If you are playing only with condoms then I really do not get the issue here. If you want to remain completely safe then you would have to ensure not to meet anyone and your partner the same. Otherwise you accept people's word and take that chance like anyone else.." So would you play with someone who was HIV positive? Just because you can't be 100% sure of everyone doesn't mean you need to throw all logic out of the window. Excluding people who actively seek BB is a very positive step to reducing your risk factor. | |||
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" How do you know anyone you meet has always played protected? Clearly we don't, that's a ridiculous argument. How do you know someone you are looking at playing with hadn't been convicted of sexual assault? You don't. But I bet you'd not play with them if they told you. Hardly ridiculous, you stated you dont want to meet anyone whos met this woman, but you dont know how many others shes met that havent verified her, you will never know, so you could still meet someone unknowingly " | |||
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"My head is spinning…. Can I block everyone that’s ever used a public toilet? " Damn, that's me blocked then | |||
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" If you are playing only with condoms then I really do not get the issue here. If you want to remain completely safe then you would have to ensure not to meet anyone and your partner the same. Otherwise you accept people's word and take that chance like anyone else.. So would you play with someone who was HIV positive? Just because you can't be 100% sure of everyone doesn't mean you need to throw all logic out of the window. Excluding people who actively seek BB is a very positive step to reducing your risk factor. " I can't see what you are asking for ever existing as is is not something most people will use. If you don't want to meet people who have met with this woman just click on her veris and block them manually. | |||
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" If you are playing only with condoms then I really do not get the issue here. If you want to remain completely safe then you would have to ensure not to meet anyone and your partner the same. Otherwise you accept people's word and take that chance like anyone else.. So would you play with someone who was HIV positive? Just because you can't be 100% sure of everyone doesn't mean you need to throw all logic out of the window. Excluding people who actively seek BB is a very positive step to reducing your risk factor. I can't see what you are asking for ever existing as is is not something most people will use. If you don't want to meet people who have met with this woman just click on her veris and block them manually. " Yep. Of course logically if the concern is risk based they'd also have to block those that have verified those that have verified her. And where would that stop? How many degrees of separation are needed before you're happy that the risk is reduced? What about meets they have that don't leave veris or that take place off site? Or..........just play safe every time and assume that others may have inadvertently met someone who once barebacked many moons ago. Because that's far easier to do. A | |||
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"And yet everyone insists on verified people but yet verified people still don’t turn up (fact) and everyone keeps on posting about verified people. I am yet to hear a good argument about why 90% of the members on this site insist of verified people. You read all the time on profiles and actually in forums like this members saying “I’ve been verified by a person I’ve never met what can I do”. The fact is people are getting fake verified all the time. And yet everyone wants to meet verified people " True ... Verifications actually contain more red flag potential than green flag .. | |||
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