FabSwingers.com forum: Ditch racism on the site

By *stb8 OP Man
over a year ago

Deeside

Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting. "

I agree that overtly discriminating isn't acceptable, it isn't the same as having a sexual preference for certain races. This isn't racism - its just preference.

If a profile said 'I dont meet black/white/asian' then yes I don't think thats acceptable, but some people want to be able to search for (for example) black men or asian women as that is their sexual preference.

Personally I have never used it but doesn't mean its racist for others to do so. You may as well say remove the gender search options because they are sexist.

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By *stb8 OP Man
over a year ago

Deeside

I understand that it's problematic because if a person isn't attracted to someone - for any reason - they're not going to want to engage. But, I think that allowing profiles to explicitly exclude people on the basis of race and for it to be acceptable because of that personal choice, sends a message that overt racism is acceptable in some circumstances. It isn't.

By removing those discriminatory words, what would be the effect? The profile might get some more messages from people they're not attracted to. Bin them or respond with a polite "no thanks". It doesn't seem like too much hardship to be.

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By *araamFunMan
over a year ago

various

Unfortunately it racist ppl do exist on fab , each to their own and all that but it is a shameful reflection on society that we live in. Lol ‘ I’m not racist I enjoy a curry’ brigade make me chuckle

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting. "

Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

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By *arensteve4funCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

People must have the right to specify thier likes/dislikes. Some are attracted to skinny, curves, blonde, brunette etc etc. Not everyone is to all peoples needs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting. "

In your very humble opinion of course!!!!

Preference is different from person to person and I respect your preferences and every ones else’s but don’t try to enforce yours on me as that’s truly is revolting!!!!

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By *araamFunMan
over a year ago

various

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

In your very humble opinion of course!!!!

Preference is different from person to person and I respect your preferences and every ones else’s but don’t try to enforce yours on me as that’s truly is revolting!!!!

Preference is not a problem and never will be , but it’s that under cover discrimination that exists, in every part of the world...black lives matter, all lives matter etc we get that ...some people just want to appear PC....when infact they hold disgusting opinions of others....no thank you from me.....

I’d rather be told to my face that someone doesn’t like ‘my type ‘ from the beginning so am not wasting my time with brain dead ignorant people and can actually give my time to people who appreciate me

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

Isn't this what block options are about ? If it offends you or you're just not a particular type then block, move on and be happy.

Also, where do you draw the line with preferences? Wont meet over 40's, no bi males, no to chubby/overweight... the list of potentially offended people is endless.

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By *araamFunMan
over a year ago

various

"Isn't this what block options are about ? If it offends you or you're just not a particular type then block, move on and be happy.

Also, where do you draw the line with preferences? Wont meet over 40's, no bi males, no to chubby/overweight... the list of potentially offended people is endless. "

I think the rant isn’t about people having preferences, of course everyone has a choice.

Think of it more like the ‘kicking racism out of football’ campaign...unless it’s called out some folk think it’s acceptable in this day and age...as I said it’s a no thanks from me ..I like to meet people that actually have more than 1 brain cell

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

It is not, it is just a preference.

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By *t.jt.jtMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting. "

Removing the ethnicity field isn't going to solve racism is it. People who don't want to meet black guys for example still won't. So why bother, I'm happy enough when people put it on their profile I just block and move on.

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By *aptain VMan
over a year ago

Birstall, Leicester

Its peoples preference ..... if you remove ethnicity.... how far will we go and what else would we remove in the name of equality

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By *urious8812Couple
over a year ago

dorchester

We too find it incredible that it’s acceptable for people to write no blacks, asians whatever on their profile. The only upside is that if we read that, we instantly know we have zero interest in meeting that person.

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

"Isn't this what block options are about ? If it offends you or you're just not a particular type then block, move on and be happy.

Also, where do you draw the line with preferences? Wont meet over 40's, no bi males, no to chubby/overweight... the list of potentially offended people is endless.

I think the rant isn’t about people having preferences, of course everyone has a choice.

I think its more like trying to highlight an issue that might possibly be prevelant in a very tiny few but is tarring everyone with the same brush. Racism, sexism, ageism and any other kind of ism is found in every walk of life, but only in a minority of folk and those who are guilty are usually booted into touch anyway.

Its no different for a white person to see " black guys only" as it is for a black guy to see " no black or asian".

Racism and all the other isms are cowardly acts from people who don't deserve limelight. Removing ethnicity options isn't going to change anything, trolls will be trolls unfortunately.

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By *araamFunMan
over a year ago

various

"We too find it incredible that it’s acceptable for people to write no blacks, asians whatever on their profile. The only upside is that if we read that, we instantly know we have zero interest in meeting that person. "

Exactly my attitude, the world is a big place I rather focus my energy on people that have that positive vibe....and I’m not just talking dildos!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I understand that it's problematic because if a person isn't attracted to someone - for any reason - they're not going to want to engage. But, I think that allowing profiles to explicitly exclude people on the basis of race and for it to be acceptable because of that personal choice, sends a message that overt racism is acceptable in some circumstances. It isn't.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can someone pls give mstb a cigar.....that's the best view iv heard regarding this subject. Nuff respect to you from me and blacknation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Grindr did it, and then I know some black guys who said they got less less/messages since.

There’s arguments for either side

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think the world needs to learn the difference between discrimination and preference. People ignore intent and point fingers too which does more harm to the cause of discrimination than any good as well.

If you've a bee in the bonnet about something looking in the mirror first is often a good start.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting. "

Am I being sexist then saying I don’t want to meet women? Racism is totally different to sexual preference.

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By *k82Man
over a year ago

Walthamstow

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting. "

Well said Brother, however its called " preference " its what they say which is another form of racism but there is always that one person trying to defend on how they feel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thinking slightly abstractly, the ethnicity filter probably nets them a fair amount of ££ from both hunters and providers

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

Well said Brother, however its called " preference " its what they say which is another form of racism but there is always that one person trying to defend on how they feel."

Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

I’m Genuinely interested how this differs to age and gender preference? Is it ageist to put up age filters? Body type is there too isn’t that discriminatory too based on the same thinking? Again I don’t want to meet women does that make me sexist? Or is racist different?

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

Where does the ethnicity come up? I can’t see it on my profile nor can I use it in a search .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Where does the ethnicity come up? I can’t see it on my profile nor can I use it in a search . "

Advanced search

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is actually being discriminated even in the advanced ethnicity search?

Is it really their right that I should make myself available to them when I'm searching for something particular to my interest at that time?

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By *k82Man
over a year ago

Walthamstow

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

Well said Brother, however its called " preference " its what they say which is another form of racism but there is always that one person trying to defend on how they feel.

Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

Well I have a preference for speaking to only black folks.

I am only after meeting indians only.

I will like to only speak to white only.

I like to speak with mixed race, no Indian mixed no south Asian, white or black only.

Shall I go on or does this not seem like a big issue for you perhaps ?

I was once told cause I am Muslim she isn't interested, which I was happy about cause I wouldn't wish to speak to anyone who has a shallow mentality or is educated by the main stream media, but she did say she enjoys a good old Indian curry with coconut milk

shows how much she knows.

I only want to meet black white or Asian or Indian etc is somewhere a bit of a problem from my point but hey if you dont see an issue then its a okay by me.

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By *k82Man
over a year ago

Walthamstow

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

Well said Brother, however its called " preference " its what they say which is another form of racism but there is always that one person trying to defend on how they feel.

Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

At work I was told, mate I have nothing against you or your people, but please could I only get served by a * white person *

I suppose you see no problem there right E ?

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

Well said Brother, however its called " preference " its what they say which is another form of racism but there is always that one person trying to defend on how they feel.

Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

At work I was told, mate I have nothing against you or your people, but please could I only get served by a * white person *

I suppose you see no problem there right E ? "

Damn right that's a problem.

It's wholly unacceptable.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

Well said Brother, however its called " preference " its what they say which is another form of racism but there is always that one person trying to defend on how they feel.

Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

At work I was told, mate I have nothing against you or your people, but please could I only get served by a * white person *

I suppose you see no problem there right E ?

Damn right that's a problem.

It's wholly unacceptable.

However, it bears no relation to my comment.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Being devil's advocate here... So if its not allowed to express your preference to NOT meet people based on skin colour.

How about those profiles staging... Only blacks need apply... Only BBC need apply etc? Does it work in that too?

It's a good discussion but not sure how easy it is to remedy on a sex / swinging site which by its nature is going to have all sorts of preferences on its journey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just as much people's right to detail preference as it is to state their sexual interests so I don't see your point whatever their reason it's theirs to make.

On the other hand if they are saying something offensive in their profile then I agree there is no place for that and they should be reported.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Just as much people's right to detail preference as it is to state their sexual interests so I don't see your point whatever their reason it's theirs to make.

On the other hand if they are saying something offensive in their profile then I agree there is no place for that and they should be reported."

As I've said, Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

I agree with your comment. There is no place for racism in society.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting.

Well said Brother, however its called " preference " its what they say which is another form of racism but there is always that one person trying to defend on how they feel.

Stating a preference isn't racist, how it's stated can be racist.

Well I have a preference for speaking to only black folks.

I am only after meeting indians only.

I will like to only speak to white only.

I like to speak with mixed race, no Indian mixed no south Asian, white or black only.

Shall I go on or does this not seem like a big issue for you perhaps ?

shows how much she knows.

I only want to meet black white or Asian or Indian etc is somewhere a bit of a problem from my point but hey if you dont see an issue then its a okay by me.

I'm not sure I've said I don't have an issue with racism, I have a very big issue with racism actually.

I'm not sure how I can rephrase my comment in a way you can understand more fully, I am sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Technically, is it discriminatory?

I mean.. I can’t filter by body size or height or hair colour or eye colour or any of feature of the person. Ao not having race and the rest, it’s additional to the standard search and not discriminating anyone?

And let’s be fair, you get filtered out? Why is that an issue? Surely that’s one less racist asshole you have to encounter. I fail to understand how that is not a win win situation.

And let’s face the facts that there’s a lot of guys out there talking advantage of it. I’m pretty sure we all know who has the higher success rate to meet Up with a woman as A single man (as a percentage).

And when I have the example of Grindr removing the ethnicity filter, I had one Asian bttm friend or suddenly couldn’t find a hookup same with a Couple of black top friends. Works both ways.

I think you they would be better of (initially anyway) having a better and more comprehensive filter anyway. Unless all your dat is just stored in one string field it should be easy enough. Unless of course a certain part of the community will find themselves filtered out..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh. And if racial is identity is an issue? You know you don’t have to answer right?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Do as I do.. I treat everyone as a cunt regardless of race until they prove me wrong...

Simples..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not racist if I as a non white person, want to filter just to see other nonwhite people. It's a case of feeling safe and not wanting to deal with racism.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's not racist not to fancy someone surely

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Apparently fans at both Colchester and Milwall are accused of booing players who took the knee. Perhaps they were booing those players who did not take the knee...

Who actually knows...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apparently fans at both Colchester and Milwall are accused of booing players who took the knee. Perhaps they were booing those players who did not take the knee...

Who actually knows..."

Who actually cares?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Apparently fans at both Colchester and Milwall are accused of booing players who took the knee. Perhaps they were booing those players who did not take the knee...

Who actually knows...

Who actually cares?

Who actually was there...

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By *emartesMan
over a year ago

Brixton/Oval

You don't have to go too far back that establishments would have signs that read "No blacks, dogs or Irish".

I a sign that reads "Preferably no blacks, dogs or Irish. No we're not racist, it's just our preference. Are you literally saying we have to sex with every black otherwise we're racist?!" Isn't any less racist, only less overtly racist.

We all have preferences but it's probably worth examining why you're excluding an entire race. Let's not forget that media and culture has for years portrayed different groups very negatively and we're not immune that influence.

Just my £0.02

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think physical attraction is just that. We cannot help who we are attracted to and yes social pressures and experiences may influence choice.. but..

There is only one,

Human race,

Many faces,

Everybody belongs here...

(James)

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By *uicybbwWoman
over a year ago

Buckinghamshire

When you are overwhelmed by messages you might understand

I’m not racist I don’t hate black or Asian guys but I certainly do not find brown cocks sexually appealing in any way shape or form

It’s a preference like some like blondes or brunettes.

Some people like one sex or both

Just as a man saying he doesn’t want contact from men doesn’t make him homophobic

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By *uicybbwWoman
over a year ago

Buckinghamshire

Also in all honesty the majority of contact with black guys on here was extremely rude and one reason why I put what I did on my profile.

They would call you racist if you said a polite no you weren’t interested then start being Abusive.

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By *astMidsCouple555Couple
over a year ago

Leicester

"Would like to see the 'ethnicity' field removed from the profile details section. Also stating in a profile that contact isn't wanted from people based on race should be banned.

Obviously it's up to individuals who they choose to connect with. But overtly discriminating against huge sections of the population based on the colour of their skin is revolting. "

So true

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

"Apparently fans at both Colchester and Milwall are accused of booing players who took the knee. Perhaps they were booing those players who did not take the knee...

Who actually knows...

Who actually cares?

Who actually was there...

Who would actually admit to it

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By *andwellcoupleCouple
over a year ago

warley

So I see the point of this post however it opens a whole can of worms

If it’s racist to prefer a particular race I understand

Provided it’s a totally level playing field

Remove the age as surely that’s discriminates age

Or how about bisexual str8

Or couple female male or couple or tv filters

And the list goes on

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Are we saying that dismissing sexual contact because of racial characteristics makes people a racist. Not sure on that one. I like leggy Swedish blondes with blue eyes and blonde hair.. it's my preference...

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