FabSwingers.com forum: The attic is back

By *he Attic OP Couple
11 weeks ago

Derby

So while we work on the fine print of regular days, times, prices and such for a generic post just a reminder/clarification.

Saturday 6th July 2024 Ron's Grand Opening Part 2: The Attic Returns for those who couldn't make it Saturday or for those that want another bite at the cherry.

7pm till 2am

£15 single ladies

£20 couples

£20 TV/CD

£35 single males (no entry till 8pm last entry 11am).

Oh [insert chariots of fire theme] and save Saturday 13th July but more on that to follow...

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By *rDiscreetlyMan
11 weeks ago

Leicester

How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

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By *rangarCouple
11 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

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By *ittle MonkeysCouple
11 weeks ago

Kimberley

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

There is no need to “get around it” as the laws preventing discrimination based on gender do not apply to private members clubs.

@The Attic, have you decided upon the themes for your party nights yet ? We are keen to see what they are.

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By *rDiscreetlyMan
11 weeks ago

Leicester

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men. "

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

Gaining access to an entertainment facility, whether pub, club or other leisure environment is exactly the same whether you identify as a male or female. There is no difference in the service provided.

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By *uddy LouveMan
11 weeks ago

East Midlands

Hey!! Congratulations on winning the battle to open again! Excited to see the new venue!!

Are you open with same timings as before?

Will you be hosting greedy party this Thursday?

Annnd any plans for new themed events? Like a ‘curvy ladies’ party maybe? Or interracial event.

Ps. I think your price structure is fair and makes sense. Ignore the tight entitled men that think otherwise x

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By *ittle MonkeysCouple
11 weeks ago

Kimberley

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

As stated, it’s a private members club. The rules don’t apply.

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By *arkhorse7Man
11 weeks ago

birmingham

Daytime cinema pricing and times ??

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By *uddy LouveMan
11 weeks ago

East Midlands

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By *uddy LouveMan
11 weeks ago

East Midlands

Why would even bother writing this message. Of course single men should pay more to enter a swingers club. Stop trying to get attention

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By *ouple4voyeurCouple
11 weeks ago

Birmingham

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

You don't like how they price things then don't go it's that simple lol

But then that stops you going to all swingers clubs as they are always priced this way.

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By *rDiscreetlyMan
11 weeks ago

Leicester

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

As stated, it’s a private members club. The rules don’t apply."

How does the Act apply to private clubs and other

associations?

Members and associates:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise an existing or potential member or an associate. (An associate

is someone who is not a member but who has some or all of the rights of a member because they are a member of an affiliated private club.)

A club cannot refuse membership, or grant membership on less favourable terms (such as by applying

different conditions or fees) because the person has a protected characteristic – disability, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion

or belief, sex or sexual orientation.

Guests:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise a guest

or potential guest of the association. A private club

cannot refuse to invite a person as a guest of the

club, or invite the person on less favourable terms,

such as by imposing special conditions, because of

the guest’s protected characteristic.

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By *ittle MonkeysCouple
11 weeks ago

Kimberley

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By *ittle MonkeysCouple
11 weeks ago

Kimberley

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

As stated, it’s a private members club. The rules don’t apply.

How does the Act apply to private clubs and other

associations?

Members and associates:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise an existing or potential member or an associate. (An associate

is someone who is not a member but who has some or all of the rights of a member because they are a member of an affiliated private club.)

A club cannot refuse membership, or grant membership on less favourable terms (such as by applying

different conditions or fees) because the person has a protected characteristic – disability, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion

or belief, sex or sexual orientation.

Guests:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise a guest

or potential guest of the association. A private club

cannot refuse to invite a person as a guest of the

club, or invite the person on less favourable terms,

such as by imposing special conditions, because of

the guest’s protected characteristic."

We can all jump on Google and pull out the first article we find that suits our argument but I would encourage you to do a little more research.

The fact that all clubs do it without fear of prosecution should tell you that it’s allowed. You need to realise that whilst it is discriminatory not all discrimination is illegal. It’s the same way we are permitted to have positive discrimination in the workplace to boost representation of minorities, we often only recruit females for example.

Discrimination is permitted where it is for a legitimate aim, in the case of swingers clubs it is in place to control the balance of men to women.

This question is raised regularly, it’s not illegal. But of you wish challenge it I would say go ahead and let a judge make it clearer for you.

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By *rangarCouple
11 weeks ago

Bromsgrove

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

As stated, it’s a private members club. The rules don’t apply.

How does the Act apply to private clubs and other

associations?

Members and associates:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise an existing or potential member or an associate. (An associate

is someone who is not a member but who has some or all of the rights of a member because they are a member of an affiliated private club.)

A club cannot refuse membership, or grant membership on less favourable terms (such as by applying

different conditions or fees) because the person has a protected characteristic – disability, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion

or belief, sex or sexual orientation.

Guests:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise a guest

or potential guest of the association. A private club

cannot refuse to invite a person as a guest of the

club, or invite the person on less favourable terms,

such as by imposing special conditions, because of

the guest’s protected characteristic."

Well you’ve just made sure you won’t be welcome at a lot of clubs so that’s a great win on your part. You do realise that single men are not exactly thin on the ground at swing clubs so they can set whatever rules they like?

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By *horsomeCouple
11 weeks ago

Swadlincote

Have you ever been to a club before? The attic is ine if the only clubs that allows everyone in on the same nights. Taking about equality when referring to _he attic is actually amusing to be honest. There are reasons the pricing is more...and considering that its BYOB, its hardly an expensive night out is it really. If you can't afford the entrance fee then you wouldn't be able to afford any of the other pm clubs.

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By *arkhorse7Man
11 weeks ago

birmingham

Why is anyone giving that pricing comment any airtime !!

Don't like it, don't go, simples !!

Please stop commenting on it, it's highjacking the great work Attic have put into getting it reopened, it doesn't need this kind of conversation, just ignore it !!!

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By *rcadian110Couple
11 weeks ago

Barnsley

The more relevant point would be if you want to have a discussion on this then start a thread titled as such instead of hijacking a thread that celebrates a club pushing through adversity to reopen for us all to enjoy. Why single out _he attic for this?

Personally we have only been to _he attic once as it's quite a way for us to travel but we can see the love that people have for it and all the hard work and money that's gone into providing a place for swingers to go.

As a community we are still frowned upon and ridiculed by the uninformed mainstream. We are classed as perverted of dirty just because of our choices. We are laughed at in "polite society" because we don't conform to their sexual morals.

Places like the Attic and other clubs give us all a safe haven to just be ourselves, to accept eachother for who we are.

Pricing is set to support the club and community. 99% of single guys who go to clubs know they will pay a little extra and accept this. It keeps ratios balanced. There are far far fewer single ladies in the scene so attracting them with lower rates makes sense. Other places do this with ladies nights and even normal nightclubs will sometimes have free entry for ladies and they attract the men and so boost income in general. As you see on fab, single guys far outnumber single ladies and couples so if you look at the pricing structure of attraction then it makes perfect sense. A smaller customer proportion requires different prices to attract. A venue has limited amount of space so needs to price to keep those spaces balanced according to the availability of customers.

For both of us we simply wish the Attic well on its reopening and congratulate the entire team for their hard work and sacrifices. And thank you for giving the community somewhere to o

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By *orny blonde bitchWoman
11 weeks ago

Liverpool

Looking forward to going this Saturday night with my bifemale friend

Lots of fun to be had

Looking forward to seeing old friends and make new ones

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By *orny DeucesCouple
11 weeks ago

Mansfield

So let's end this debate right now.

You a hairdresser who charges woman more than men for "cutting hair" should charge the same?

Firstly the prices are not set because of the the sex of a person the prices are lower to encourage woman to the club(s) a practice used by every club up and down the country. Staff are required and therefore there are costs associated to the management single males who don't follow rules and require staff to handle situations 9/10 caused by single males.

Prices are set by competition ad supply and demand. The Equality Act which The Attic has had to read through, study and understand as the act works along side building regulations as with a lot of legislation can be open to interpretation but ultimately the "service" provided differs, woman want protection men in some circumstances want something else. Away from the "club" there is a business that needs to pay rent and utilities to name but two bills. And therefore sets out forecasts to be able to cover those costs accordingly hence the pricing strategy in place.

The Attic is also very comparable on prices for clubs up and down the country so sadly you chose the wrong end of the stick, the wrong area to try and debate and the wrong club to debate it to

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By *plankyguyMan
11 weeks ago

Staffordshire

Can’t wait to visit the cinema tomorrow

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By *ewstaffsmanMan
11 weeks ago

brownhills

What’s the address for the new club or is it still at the same premises as before

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By *r DerbyMan
11 weeks ago

Derby

"What’s the address for the new club or is it still at the same premises as before "

We are unable to put locations on fab, as you will get a 24r ban, so please check the website or Google it.

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By *tarcrossed_SwingersCouple
11 weeks ago

Leicester

Go and sue them if you are that bothered? But it's fairly common knowledge as to why it's priced this way. You'd know that if you went to other clubs who, surprise surprise, also have the same pricing structure! Plus, it's a bargain for a single guy and consider yourself lucky you even have the opportunity to be present!

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By *aughty DevilsCouple
11 weeks ago

Newark

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Easy answer ... don't go. It would probably be a waste of the entry fee for you anyway because nobody would want to involve you

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

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By *ewstaffsmanMan
11 weeks ago

brownhills

"What’s the address for the new club or is it still at the same premises as before

We are unable to put locations on fab, as you will get a 24r ban, so please check the website or Google it."

Ok thank you, I shall be there Saturday cannot wait

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By *am187Man
11 weeks ago

Loughborough

Its to keep the real perves away to a certain extent. I was there today and some guys just leach and follow ladies around!

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By *idsTomMan
11 weeks ago

Sheffield

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

It’s licensed as a Private Club, very simple!

Swimming pools and gyms have Women only days?

Honest to l god people like you grind my gears!

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By *elnkazCouple
11 weeks ago

cheshire

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

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thers always one idiot !!!

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By *elnkazCouple
11 weeks ago

cheshire

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Their club…their rules!! Same as haircuts are more for women than men.

Completely different, as the complexity of service provided differs between the two.

As stated, it’s a private members club. The rules don’t apply.

How does the Act apply to private clubs and other

associations?

Members and associates:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise an existing or potential member or an associate. (An associate

is someone who is not a member but who has some or all of the rights of a member because they are a member of an affiliated private club.)

A club cannot refuse membership, or grant membership on less favourable terms (such as by applying

different conditions or fees) because the person has a protected characteristic – disability, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion

or belief, sex or sexual orientation.

Guests:

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise a guest

or potential guest of the association. A private club

cannot refuse to invite a person as a guest of the

club, or invite the person on less favourable terms,

such as by imposing special conditions, because of

the guest’s protected characteristic."

Get a life or get off fab

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By *bw partiesWoman
11 weeks ago

warrington

Aww wouldve loved to have attended your open night but hosting my own party that night in manchester

Hopefully make it over soon and see your new place

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By (user no longer on site)
11 weeks ago

Loved the old place and soooo looking forward to the new, we couldn’t be there last weekend but will be a little more than excited to be there this Saturday ……

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By *red and Wilma 75Couple
11 weeks ago

Staffordshire

We will be going on Saturday and can’t wait!!!

Say hello if your goingxxx

M F MF

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By *arckazCouple
11 weeks ago

staffordshire

Can anyone tell me what the new cinema is like as the mrs likes to play in there on Saturday evenings

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By *r DerbyMan
11 weeks ago

Derby

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By *r DerbyMan
11 weeks ago

Derby

"Can anyone tell me what the new cinema is like as the mrs likes to play in there on Saturday evenings"

It's got sofas and has a screen that shows moving naughty pics and has sound.

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By *arckazCouple
11 weeks ago

staffordshire

"Can anyone tell me what the new cinema is like as the mrs likes to play in there on Saturday evenings

It's got sofas and has a screen that shows moving naughty pics and has sound.

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is it bigger lol

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By *HaRiFMan
11 weeks ago

Beyond the shadows.

"Can anyone tell me what the new cinema is like as the mrs likes to play in there on Saturday evenings

It's got sofas and has a screen that shows moving naughty pics and has sound.

is it bigger lol "

Yes

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By *ewstaffsmanMan
11 weeks ago

brownhills

"Can anyone tell me what the new cinema is like as the mrs likes to play in there on Saturday evenings

It's got sofas and has a screen that shows moving naughty pics and has sound.

Spat my coffee out reading this lol

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By *azza80Woman
11 weeks ago

Your wildest Dreams

"Looking forward to going this Saturday night with my bifemale friend

Lots of fun to be had

Looking forward to seeing old friends and make new ones

We are going to have so much fun..you and I together are a force to be reckoned with

always a night to remember! Bring it on

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By *oetic licenceCouple
11 weeks ago

Darley Dale

"Can anyone tell me what the new cinema is like as the mrs likes to play in there on Saturday evenings

It's got sofas and has a screen that shows moving naughty pics and has sound.

is it bigger lol "

Just go and see for yourself. You'll love it

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By *T5943Man
11 weeks ago

derby

Please register me with the name BUGZY691 (single male)

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By *r DerbyMan
11 weeks ago

Derby

"Please register me with the name BUGZY691 (single male)"

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By *illnortonCouple
11 weeks ago

Lincoln

Don't like it dont go but get a life

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
11 weeks ago

walsall

Couples bring something that most people are looking for females

Don't like the pricing don't go no one is forcing you

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
11 weeks ago

Central

"The more relevant point would be if you want to have a discussion on this then start a thread titled as such instead of hijacking a thread that celebrates a club pushing through adversity to reopen for us all to enjoy. Why single out _he attic for this?

Places like the Attic and other clubs give us all a safe haven to just be ourselves, to accept eachother for who we are.

For both of us we simply wish the Attic well on its reopening and congratulate the entire team for their hard work and sacrifices. And thank you for giving the community somewhere to o "

The user could have searched in the forum for the many discussions on this, over the years. The Attic has had more than enough knocks, since it planned to reopen. There's an abundance of goodwill to the team, for all they've been through.

I'm disappointed at not being with them in opening week but I've got family caring issues to address. Hope everyone's had a fantastic time

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By *WV9715Man
10 weeks ago

Nottingham

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Seems like a fair and reasonable question to me and not sure why you have received such abuse.

£20 is my limit for these places and even though I have still to make my debut at the Attic I would feel a mug that I had paid £35.

As others have said dont like it dont go so I'd rather put that amount towards a massage with a happy ending.

I look forward to making my debut at the The Attic for one of the TV admirer days.

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By *r DerbyMan
10 weeks ago

Derby

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Seems like a fair and reasonable question to me and not sure why you have received such abuse.

£20 is my limit for these places and even though I have still to make my debut at the Attic I would feel a mug that I had paid £35.

As others have said dont like it dont go so I'd rather put that amount towards a massage with a happy ending.

I look forward to making my debut at the The Attic for one of the TV admirer days.

The Attic is one of the cheapest swingers clubs around, other clubs you would be paying £35+ to go and also a membership fee (yearly as a single guy) I don't £35 for a night out is expensive.

And difference in admittance fee based on sex is a common thing in swingers and adult club.

I'm sorry you feel this way and hope you find your happy ending.

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By *WV9715Man
10 weeks ago

Nottingham

"How do you get round the Equality Act 2010 with discriminatory pricing based on gender?

Seems like a fair and reasonable question to me and not sure why you have received such abuse.

£20 is my limit for these places and even though I have still to make my debut at the Attic I would feel a mug that I had paid £35.

As others have said dont like it dont go so I'd rather put that amount towards a massage with a happy ending.

I look forward to making my debut at the The Attic for one of the TV admirer days.

The Attic is one of the cheapest swingers clubs around, other clubs you would be paying £35+ to go and also a membership fee (yearly as a single guy) I don't £35 for a night out is expensive.

And difference in admittance fee based on sex is a common thing in swingers and adult club.

I'm sorry you feel this way and hope you find your happy ending."

Ok thanks.

I’m used to saunas and normally only go to the Bi night at Northwich with is £18.

Maybe _he attic is a completely different experience I dunno.