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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Why do single guys often have to pay more than double females for entrance into clubs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because the gender pay gap.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

Because they will pay it, and clubs want to make as much money as possible.

I think it's partly to encourage more women and couples to attend with the lower prices as well.

Either way its not particularly fair.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

Supply and demand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because they will pay it, and clubs want to make as much money as possible.

I think it's partly to encourage more women and couples to attend with the lower prices as well.

Either way its not particularly fair. "

I believe it's largely to discourage most of the dickheads, and making some money is just a nice bonus

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Potentially off putting too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big supply of single males, they can charge what they want because they will pay it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because they will pay it, and clubs want to make as much money as possible.

I think it's partly to encourage more women and couples to attend with the lower prices as well.

Either way its not particularly fair.

I believe it's largely to discourage most of the dickheads, and making some money is just a nice bonus "

It doesn't discourage dickheads, it just means they're more likely to be dickheads with money.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Ha ha, according to a club locker room conversation, “it’s cheaper than a brothel”.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Because they will pay it, and clubs want to make as much money as possible.

I think it's partly to encourage more women and couples to attend with the lower prices as well.

Either way its not particularly fair.

I believe it's largely to discourage most of the dickheads, and making some money is just a nice bonus

It doesn't discourage dickheads, it just means they're more likely to be dickheads with money."

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

It does seem unfair, but I understand why it is so. I only live a 10 minutes walk from The Attic, and they only charge £25 for single guys, even on a Saturday. You don't even need to be a member

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"Because they will pay it, and clubs want to make as much money as possible.

I think it's partly to encourage more women and couples to attend with the lower prices as well.

Either way its not particularly fair.

I believe it's largely to discourage most of the dickheads, and making some money is just a nice bonus "

Clubs are not charities, they are businesses with big overheads. I certainly wouldn't want to run one. Those that get their pricing and ratios right are the ones to stay in business.

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By *igjohn78Man
over a year ago

lincoln

I have wanted to go to some other clubs but am not willing to pay the high price of getting in and daylight robbery for the membership. There loss not mine I stick to the 3 clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be."

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesnt just put the idiots off though, it also puts genuine guys off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have wanted to go to some other clubs but am not willing to pay the high price of getting in and daylight robbery for the membership. There loss not mine I stick to the 3 clubs"

I agree they should scrap membership, just take details on entry

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

dunno what the ratio is men to women, but say 10 to 1. Why to guys want to go to clubs, to fuck women, so what's the arguement?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it off putting? You either want the club experience or not. If you do pay it and go, if not it doesn’t matter to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, and I personally think it's awful! But men are willing to pay.

Personally I'd happily pay to go to a club because I love going.

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men? "

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair.

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester

I totally understand it, and it bugs me!

But the thing is; it's all about supply and demand. They know that men will pay it for the chance of a shag.

This industry has a major shortage of women. It's just the way it is.

There are some industries, events, and activities where it's like this. I could go to a local barchetta/salsa club tonight and not contribute anything at all, and be welcomed with loads of smily happy faces and hot women. It's just the way it is! For the same reason, it's an activity where men just don't seem to last or have little interest.

My local club, Townhouse, to be fair, they're pretty reasonable with their prices on non event nights. That's fine for me anyway as I'm more of the social type. Maybe I'll go again at some point soon.

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By *JohnMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

People always say it's men who pay more, but I think it's actually the other way around. Men pay the normal price - the one the club needs to charge to get enough money in to keep running. It's the women who get a discount.

Having men and women pay the same amount would not result in men paying less, which I suspect is what the people calling for 'fairness' really want. They'd end up paying the same as they do now, but the increased price for women would reduce their numbers even further.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"People always say it's men who pay more, but I think it's actually the other way around. Men pay the normal price - the one the club needs to charge to get enough money in to keep running. It's the women who get a discount.

Having men and women pay the same amount would not result in men paying less, which I suspect is what the people calling for 'fairness' really want. They'd end up paying the same as they do now, but the increased price for women would reduce their numbers even further."

So are you suggesting women are not prepared to pay inflated prices but men are??If so I dont blame them..

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.


"Supply and demand."

Ahh but is there an overwhelming supply of ‘decent’ single guys.?

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By *romNorfolkCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk


"Because the gender pay gap."

Fantastic reply!

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.


"Supply and demand.

Ahh but is there an overwhelming supply of ‘decent’ single guys.?"

decent 'wealthy' single guys!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I go to a club as a single woman. Often I'm the only single woman there or the only one out of two or three. I wouldnt pay the amount single guys have to. Of ten the ratio is 6/7/8-1 at least.

It is a very priveliged position to be in!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly- it’s a business and they could probably charge more- but without couples or females the clubs wouldn’t work!

I’m dying to get into the club scene and totally understand it!

It is pretty cheap in my eyes!!

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By *iss judgedWoman
over a year ago

North Bucks is where I hang around..

I guess to put off the people who just want a cheap thrill and encourage genuine nice guys???

Not sure if works to be fair!

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley


"I go to a club as a single woman. Often I'm the only single woman there or the only one out of two or three. I wouldnt pay the amount single guys have to. Of ten the ratio is 6/7/8-1 at least.

It is a very priveliged position to be in! "

Absolutely which is why guys think it is a bit of a rip off. The last club I attended, it was Guys 7* couples and zero single girls.

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

You have two choices - go or don't go. Think about how much a night out in town costs compared to an afternoon/evening in a club with all the facilities it has to offer.

Single men we see at clubs don't have an issue with paying the entrance fee

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By *he RingmasterMan
over a year ago

Canford Cliffs

Women can bang on and on about equality with men..

Until it comes to entrance fees for swingers clubs.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Women can bang on and on about equality with men..

Until it comes to entrance fees for swingers clubs....."

When everything else is equal I'll pay the same!!

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By *he RingmasterMan
over a year ago

Canford Cliffs


"Women can bang on and on about equality with men..

Until it comes to entrance fees for swingers clubs.....

When everything else is equal I'll pay the same!! "

Well you have to start somewhere and this is as good a place as any.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Women can bang on and on about equality with men..

Until it comes to entrance fees for swingers clubs.....

When everything else is equal I'll pay the same!! "

*Applause*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because the gender pay gap."

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By *rcadian110Couple
over a year ago

Barnsley

It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago

middle earth

I thought it was to put off groups of guys rocking up like it's the strippers?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Exactly- it’s a business and they could probably charge more- but without couples or females the clubs wouldn’t work!

I’m dying to get into the club scene and totally understand it!

It is pretty cheap in my eyes!!"

I reckon you can make a small fortune running a club.

As long as you start with a large fortune!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny. It’s the men that know how to swing successfully that go and don’t mind paying it. The ones that are crap at swinging bitch and moan, and don’t get anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium. "

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"Funny. It’s the men that know how to swing successfully that go and don’t mind paying it. The ones that are crap at swinging bitch and moan, and don’t get anything. "

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Why do single guys often have to pay more than double females for entrance into clubs?"

Because they are the majority, clubs are businesses after all.

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By *am4CamWoman
over a year ago

Fairy Land

There is some element of supply and demand; I think a big part of it though is putting off dick heads and their mates who think they can drop a tenner and walk into a building full of easy access fanny.

Think of how the pissed up idiot posts of a weekend “I’m bored, who’s gonna fuck me bitches?” on here would translate to real behaviour in a club.

Those who understand the scene will and do pay the required fees. Those that think it’s dual a shag won’t and don’t.

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By *am4CamWoman
over a year ago

Fairy Land


"There is some element of supply and demand; I think a big part of it though is putting off dick heads and their mates who think they can drop a tenner and walk into a building full of easy access fanny.

Think of how the pissed up idiot posts of a weekend “I’m bored, who’s gonna fuck me bitches?” on here would translate to real behaviour in a club.

Those who understand the scene will and do pay the required fees. Those that think it’s dual a shag won’t and don’t. "

*dial*

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By *esparate danMan
over a year ago

glasgow

It doesn't really reflect well on anyone ... does it promotes the idea that "pussy" is a commodity

Get it in at wholesale prices and charge the thirstiest buyers a premium

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By *r Average69Man
over a year ago

Thanet


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men? "

The right answer

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away."

So you've driven for an hour to get to this wonder club that charges equal prices.

You get there and are told "sorry mate we let the last single guy in 5 minutes ago"

We've been to over 50 clubs in 5 countries and the single guy/woman/couple price difference is universal.

If anything, compared to Germany, France, Holland and Spain the UK guys get off lightly.

Grab a stiff drink then take a look at how it works in Cap d'Agde for example.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I would just add to the above that we are members of this site in English but also a German and a Spanish site.

I cannot remember the last time I read anyone in Germany or Spain complaining about this. Yet on here it is almost a daily occurrence.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"It does seem unfair, but I understand why it is so. I only live a 10 minutes walk from The Attic, and they only charge £25 for single guys, even on a Saturday. You don't even need to be a member "
. Sounds like you get a good package it’s local , it’s a good price , you can get in on a Saturday night.Where I am in London I am member of OP4F its a 20 minute drive , on a Saturday night they only allow 5 select guys in at midnight and it cost £70 for the select single guy.I don’t mind paying this as in London we don’t have many clubs and I have always had a good night when I have attended.

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By *horty4Man
over a year ago

london

Christ, this boring subject again. Guys, hate to be the liberal lefty but if you think that you’re hard done by because one particular niche activity asks you to pay more then you need to open your eyes.

Stop whining

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be."

Women wouldn't go at all.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only


"There is some element of supply and demand; I think a big part of it though is putting off dick heads and their mates who think they can drop a tenner and walk into a building full of easy access fanny.

Think of how the pissed up idiot posts of a weekend “I’m bored, who’s gonna fuck me bitches?” on here would translate to real behaviour in a club.

Those who understand the scene will and do pay the required fees. Those that think it’s dual a shag won’t and don’t. "

There were 2 guys last weekend, came to the club & rather than asking about what the club is like asked "can we get some fanny here" they were told we aren't a brothel & sent on their way

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By *niper oneMan
over a year ago

DERBY/Notts border


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even."
lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I have no issue paying the price that a club wants to charge me as it's my choice what I do with my money. When you think how long you can stay in a club and enjoy the facilities and company it's actually not an expensive way to indulge in the lifestyle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different."

That's actually not the same thing at all. Clubs are private businesses and can charge different groups of people differently and it isn't discrimination so complain all you like.

Or better yet, just don't go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do single guys often have to pay more than double females for entrance into clubs?"
you know exactly why, please dont ask daft questions, wheres your hand sanitiser in that pic its a prerequisite of all pics from now on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not illegal. Nothing illegal about giving a discount to an under represented group. Don’t like it, then don’t go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also OP you're not helping the jock stereotype of being tight.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away."

This.

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By *ud and BryanCouple
over a year ago

Boston, Lincolnshire


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

That's actually not the same thing at all. Clubs are private businesses and can charge different groups of people differently and it isn't discrimination so complain all you like.

Or better yet, just don't go."

Exactly!

All the single men who moan and whine about the price difference do is alienate ladies/couples who might otherwise consider meeting them.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away."

Really? So a guy travels 2 hours to go to a club, pays for a hotel (people travel from Ireland to come to ours!) and you think he would be ok with a 'sorry mate, you can't come in, we don't want a cockfest' ? This is why not many people could run a successful swingers club.

This subject has been done to death.

1/ It's not illegal for a private members club to charge different prices to under represented groups...take a look at the Equality act. If you go to a club that has a membership scheme, this is legal.

2/ Clubs charge different prices up and down the country so do some homework rather than bitch and find one that suits your wallet. We have nights where everyone gets charged £10 per person and they're not just social nights. Buxom Babes is one.

3/ Clubs could fill their venue with guys every night. I would say for every female enquiry, we get 20 or more guys. If you don't want to pay, someone else will. However, our prices are fair and won't break the bank.

4/ Good clubs monitor ratios and try to create a night which is balanced and not cock heavy by running and maintaining guestlists, which is confirmed through messaging. We issue strikes to people who add onto guestlists and cancel; people learn to only add when they are certain and it makes the monitoring of ratios easier.

5/ If you want everyone to be charged the same price on every night, then I hope you are at least bi curious and be prepared to be turned away at the door if it's too cock heavy. So don't plan a long journey to a club or book a hotel as it could be costly and a waste of your time.

6/ I've been to a club which charges people similar prices and doesn't take ID from people and they let anybody in because they just want your money. The ratio was around 12:1 and I had an entourage every time I went for a piss! I was like the Pied Piper! The guys were pissed off that they 'had paid their money and weren't getting action' and I found it to be the most unsexy club I've been to. Even if I was attracted to any of the guys, I wouldn't have played because the volume of guys was too intimidating. The testosterone in the club was pungent!

If you don't get why clubs charge what they do, then you are not the type of customer who should be going to clubs. Book yourself a more expensive hotel room, put a meet up on here and take your chances

Vicky xx

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By *atBottomGirlsWoman
over a year ago

St Austell-ish


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair."

We do get charged more: haircuts and clothing, pads and tampons, to name just a few. These are things that are not optional, as going to a club is.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away.

Really? So a guy travels 2 hours to go to a club, pays for a hotel (people travel from Ireland to come to ours!) and you think he would be ok with a 'sorry mate, you can't come in, we don't want a cockfest' ? This is why not many people could run a successful swingers club.

This subject has been done to death.

1/ It's not illegal for a private members club to charge different prices to under represented groups...take a look at the Equality act. If you go to a club that has a membership scheme, this is legal.

2/ Clubs charge different prices up and down the country so do some homework rather than bitch and find one that suits your wallet. We have nights where everyone gets charged £10 per person and they're not just social nights. Buxom Babes is one.

3/ Clubs could fill their venue with guys every night. I would say for every female enquiry, we get 20 or more guys. If you don't want to pay, someone else will. However, our prices are fair and won't break the bank.

4/ Good clubs monitor ratios and try to create a night which is balanced and not cock heavy by running and maintaining guestlists, which is confirmed through messaging. We issue strikes to people who add onto guestlists and cancel; people learn to only add when they are certain and it makes the monitoring of ratios easier.

5/ If you want everyone to be charged the same price on every night, then I hope you are at least bi curious and be prepared to be turned away at the door if it's too cock heavy. So don't plan a long journey to a club or book a hotel as it could be costly and a waste of your time.

6/ I've been to a club which charges people similar prices and doesn't take ID from people and they let anybody in because they just want your money. The ratio was around 12:1 and I had an entourage every time I went for a piss! I was like the Pied Piper! The guys were pissed off that they 'had paid their money and weren't getting action' and I found it to be the most unsexy club I've been to. Even if I was attracted to any of the guys, I wouldn't have played because the volume of guys was too intimidating. The testosterone in the club was pungent!

If you don't get why clubs charge what they do, then you are not the type of customer who should be going to clubs. Book yourself a more expensive hotel room, put a meet up on here and take your chances

Vicky xx"

Very good post.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair."

Many things in life aren’t fair but you don’t hear people whinging about it.

Maybe you can take a look at this article on the bbc and explain why women are refused service or charged more for the exact same short haircut as men, simply because they have a vagina

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-50691249

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair.

Many things in life aren’t fair but you don’t hear people whinging about it.

Maybe you can take a look at this article on the bbc and explain why women are refused service or charged more for the exact same short haircut as men, simply because they have a vagina

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-50691249"
of course you hear people whinging about it anything we have to pay for creates whinging so how should guys not whinge about the very sexist charging system that some clubs employ?

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair.

Many things in life aren’t fair but you don’t hear people whinging about it.

Maybe you can take a look at this article on the bbc and explain why women are refused service or charged more for the exact same short haircut as men, simply because they have a vagina

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-50691249of course you hear people whinging about it anything we have to pay for creates whinging so how should guys not whinge about the very sexist charging system that some clubs employ? "

As was quoted earlier in the thread, when women are equal to men in all areas then maybe it can be properly justified

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair.

Many things in life aren’t fair but you don’t hear people whinging about it.

Maybe you can take a look at this article on the bbc and explain why women are refused service or charged more for the exact same short haircut as men, simply because they have a vagina

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-50691249of course you hear people whinging about it anything we have to pay for creates whinging so how should guys not whinge about the very sexist charging system that some clubs employ?

As was quoted earlier in the thread, when women are equal to men in all areas then maybe it can be properly justified "
i actually think in this day and age and certainly on this site and sites like it its men that are playing catchup

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

have noticed that this tends not to happen at fetish events with a few exceptions a large number of which are held in swingers clubs funnily enough there dont seem to be that many dickheads attending

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"have noticed that this tends not to happen at fetish events with a few exceptions a large number of which are held in swingers clubs funnily enough there dont seem to be that many dickheads attending "

And honestly, a comparison with the kink community proves my point - swingers clubs (like night clubs) profit from attracting women in with low prices to make them part of their product.

In the kink community this would be strongly resisted because it's dehumanising.

(generally the kink community has a much deeper understanding of consent and power dynamics, since they specialise in fucking with the latter and rely strongly on the former to do it).

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair.

Many things in life aren’t fair but you don’t hear people whinging about it.

Maybe you can take a look at this article on the bbc and explain why women are refused service or charged more for the exact same short haircut as men, simply because they have a vagina

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-50691249of course you hear people whinging about it anything we have to pay for creates whinging so how should guys not whinge about the very sexist charging system that some clubs employ? "

Ah! Sexist. That pretty much sums up the difference between the UK and the rest of Europe (if not the world)

If someone doesn't like something they have to think up an "ist" for it.

As I posted earlier. The Germans, Spanish, and I would guess the Dutch and French just don't even think about having a whinge on this subject and certainly wouldn't call it anything "ist"

As others have posted on a myriad of threads on this site it goes something like this.

Two clubs decide to equalise prices for men and women. The first club increases women's prices to the same level as men. Result, very few if any women attend then the guys stop turning up as well. Club goes bust.

The second club lowers the men's prices to that of the women. Result. Lots of guys turn up because it's cheaper than a brothel and the women get scared away. Eventually the men stop going as well and the club goes bust.

Whichever way you work it out it would be bad for everyone (not least the club owners) So stop whinging, pay the money and enjoy yourself.

For a happy thought just think that it costs a lot less for a single guy in the UK than in probably 90% of the clubs in the rest of Europe.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

Club night expenses for my partner:

Taxi there

Entry fee

Drinks

Taxi home

Club night expenses for me:

Dress to arrive in

Lingerie to dress down in

Hairdresser

Taxi there

Entry fee

Drinks

Taxi home

Sooooo much more expensive for me than it is for him!!

Also, it totally depends on which club / event you’re going to. And if you’re taking your own drinks, paying £30 to get in & having a great night out, it’s still cheaper than a night in town.

Pay it. Don’t pay it. As someone mentioned above, it’s the ones that attend clubs & understand the way they work who are successful.

The guys who moan about it are looking for a reason as to why they are unsuccessful in the swinging world

“I’d have got loads of play if it wasn’t for those pesky clubs keeping me from going by charging an entry fee”

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By *inderellaRockerfellazCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"Club night expenses for my partner:

Taxi there

Entry fee

Drinks

Taxi home

Club night expenses for me:

Dress to arrive in

Lingerie to dress down in

Hairdresser

Taxi there

Entry fee

Drinks

Taxi home

Sooooo much more expensive for me than it is for him!!

Also, it totally depends on which club / event you’re going to. And if you’re taking your own drinks, paying £30 to get in & having a great night out, it’s still cheaper than a night in town.

Pay it. Don’t pay it. As someone mentioned above, it’s the ones that attend clubs & understand the way they work who are successful.

The guys who moan about it are looking for a reason as to why they are unsuccessful in the swinging world

“I’d have got loads of play if it wasn’t for those pesky clubs keeping me from going by charging an entry fee” "

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By *inderellaRockerfellazCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable."

Disgusting comment eg “working girls” which endangers single lady’s that choose to visit clubs for their own enjoyment. Such comments suggest that you, when visiting a club consider the ladies attending to be something they are not.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Perhaps clubs should just limit a 10 per night entry for single guys then men who travel miles can waste their time as entry would be refused

In real terms there are way more single guys than single girls in the swing scene and we use the term single men loosely

We as a couple don't visit clubs on single guy nights as we find it a huge turn off to be followed around by cock wombles hoping to see or get some action offered to them cause their too lazy to make conversations

There are probably a few couples who agree with us

So let's let the single guys flood the clubs for a low price so couples and single fems can be hounded and not bother going anymore then all the single men can walk n wank each other

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By *inderellaRockerfellazCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"Perhaps clubs should just limit a 10 per night entry for single guys then men who travel miles can waste their time as entry would be refused

In real terms there are way more single guys than single girls in the swing scene and we use the term single men loosely

We as a couple don't visit clubs on single guy nights as we find it a huge turn off to be followed around by cock wombles hoping to see or get some action offered to them cause their too lazy to make conversations

There are probably a few couples who agree with us

So let's let the single guys flood the clubs for a low price so couples and single fems can be hounded and not bother going anymore then all the single men can walk n wank each other "

Agreed & well run clubs, do have key ratios for allowing single males (members & non members) to attend for this very reason. Also the reason clubs have “guest lists” to manage against these ratio’s X Cupids

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

Disgusting comment eg “working girls” which endangers single lady’s that choose to visit clubs for their own enjoyment. Such comments suggest that you, when visiting a club consider the ladies attending to be something they are not. "

If you think that maybe you need to read the comment again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Happy International Womens Day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair.

Many things in life aren’t fair but you don’t hear people whinging about it.

Maybe you can take a look at this article on the bbc and explain why women are refused service or charged more for the exact same short haircut as men, simply because they have a vagina

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-50691249of course you hear people whinging about it anything we have to pay for creates whinging so how should guys not whinge about the very sexist charging system that some clubs employ?

Ah! Sexist. That pretty much sums up the difference between the UK and the rest of Europe (if not the world)

If someone doesn't like something they have to think up an "ist" for it.

As I posted earlier. The Germans, Spanish, and I would guess the Dutch and French just don't even think about having a whinge on this subject and certainly wouldn't call it anything "ist"

As others have posted on a myriad of threads on this site it goes something like this.

Two clubs decide to equalise prices for men and women. The first club increases women's prices to the same level as men. Result, very few if any women attend then the guys stop turning up as well. Club goes bust.

The second club lowers the men's prices to that of the women. Result. Lots of guys turn up because it's cheaper than a brothel and the women get scared away. Eventually the men stop going as well and the club goes bust.

Whichever way you work it out it would be bad for everyone (not least the club owners) So stop whinging, pay the money and enjoy yourself.

For a happy thought just think that it costs a lot less for a single guy in the UK than in probably 90% of the clubs in the rest of Europe.

"
hey great example but unfortunately sexism in this country and equal opportunities does exist its a real thing and charging a different price on the basis of gender is regarded as unfair, i appreciate why it exists and why its applied and i make decisions based on it but the reality is it is sexist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP you’ve been here 10 months surely you can see this subject has been done to death

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

I think the way it works is absolutely fine.

As someone above has said, if it's an issue don't go.

I'm just waiting for the "if I owned a club" comments.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Same old same old poor single guys want everything handed to them

Clubs are privately run and can charge what they feel fit and it will never change like the other op said lower male price flood clubs couples n single fems will avoid so clubs will go out of business then men will moan they have nowhere to go to get away from there wives

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because only those desperate enough will be willing to pay

It's illegal to charge different prices for different genders but no one's bothered to take legal action over it.

Single men are treated like shit in the swinging world, I wonder why some bother going to these swinging clubs alone.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Because only those desperate enough will be willing to pay

It's illegal to charge different prices for different genders but no one's bothered to take legal action over it.

Single men are treated like shit in the swinging world, I wonder why some bother going to these swinging clubs alone."

I have to disagree with you on that one. It is what you make it.

I've been to loads of clubs followed the rules and had some fantastic encounters.

Have you taken up legal action against the swinging clubs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club?

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By *inderellaRockerfellazCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"Because only those desperate enough will be willing to pay

It's illegal to charge different prices for different genders but no one's bothered to take legal action over it.

Single men are treated like shit in the swinging world, I wonder why some bother going to these swinging clubs alone."

IT is NOT ILLEGAL - try looking at your local PRIVATE golf club. Males pay more than ladies to smack balls all over the place !!!! A que for some light hearted comments - any takers.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Single guys have same choice as couples pay the price or don't that's the equality

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"IT is NOT ILLEGAL - try looking at your local PRIVATE golf club. Males pay more than ladies to smack balls all over the place !!!! A que for some light hearted comments - any takers. "

There's a difference between charging women less to encourage them to get involved, and charging them less to make the product more attractive to men.

If no women turn up at a golf course men still play golf.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to disagree with you on that one. It is what you make it.

I've been to loads of clubs followed the rules and had some fantastic encounters.

Have you taken up legal action against the swinging clubs?

"

I'm going off anecdotes and what I've read on here. I've read stories of people in a club ignoring a single man, and the very same people being friendly with him when he turned up with a +1 another time. I just don't see the point in swinging as a single man.

I'm sure a lot of single men pay these ridiculous entry fees because thet think they're entitled to some action.

I don't visit swinging clubs, so no. But it's widespread and happens at bars/nightclubs too (thankfully only the bad ones do this now, it's mostly a thing of the past).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this time and energy would have been better spent wanking at least you get something at the end, unlike arguing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only a problem for the crap men

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By *inderellaRockerfellazCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"IT is NOT ILLEGAL - try looking at your local PRIVATE golf club. Males pay more than ladies to smack balls all over the place !!!! A que for some light hearted comments - any takers.

There's a difference between charging women less to encourage them to get involved, and charging them less to make the product more attractive to men.

If no women turn up at a golf course men still play golf."

What if it’s mixed golf or perhaps your suggesting males & females don’t play around together !!!

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? "
. My Friday night at OP4F is £50 and a Saturday night is £70.It’s a 15 - 20 minutes drive so less than a £5 petrol and I don’t drink alcohol so no more than £5 in soft drinks.I pay it and I always have a good night out and anything else is a bonus no expectations no disappointment.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

Single men only get treated like shit if they behave like idiots. We prefer going to clubs when there are single men there and avoid couple only nights. We always chat with anyone who approaches us and will chat to people even if we're not interested in playing with them. It's basic manners

On the rare occasion we have had an issue it's been when someone has tried to jump in without having the good manners to ask.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"I have to disagree with you on that one. It is what you make it.

I've been to loads of clubs followed the rules and had some fantastic encounters.

Have you taken up legal action against the swinging clubs?

I'm going off anecdotes and what I've read on here. I've read stories of people in a club ignoring a single man, and the very same people being friendly with him when he turned up with a +1 another time. I just don't see the point in swinging as a single man.

I'm sure a lot of single men pay these ridiculous entry fees because thet think they're entitled to some action.

I don't visit swinging clubs, so no. But it's widespread and happens at bars/nightclubs too (thankfully only the bad ones do this now, it's mostly a thing of the past)."

At last you get the point many couples want to play with couples not single guys

Tbf we have never ignored a single male that's made the effort to say hi but sadly most think that's a passport for them to follow you around all night or worse stand close whilst your playing and wank not caring where they cum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On international women’s day too!!!!!!......men have rights too you know lol

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet


"[Removed by poster at 07/03/20 19:53:46]"
when women are discriminated against its rightly called out . The other way around ..shrug of shoulders. Another symptom of the disingenuous nonsense about social patriarchal dominance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to disagree with you on that one. It is what you make it.

I've been to loads of clubs followed the rules and had some fantastic encounters.

Have you taken up legal action against the swinging clubs?

I'm going off anecdotes and what I've read on here. I've read stories of people in a club ignoring a single man, and the very same people being friendly with him when he turned up with a +1 another time. I just don't see the point in swinging as a single man.

I'm sure a lot of single men pay these ridiculous entry fees because thet think they're entitled to some action.

I don't visit swinging clubs, so no. But it's widespread and happens at bars/nightclubs too (thankfully only the bad ones do this now, it's mostly a thing of the past)."

I've been ignored by cpls as a single woman in a club...

Think it's difficult for all singles to fit into swinging. Alas it is a cpls lifestyle....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? . My Friday night at OP4F is £50 and a Saturday night is £70.It’s a 15 - 20 minutes drive so less than a £5 petrol and I don’t drink alcohol so no more than £5 in soft drinks.I pay it and I always have a good night out and anything else is a bonus no expectations no disappointment."

Yeah it's a bit pricey for all. Its the point I wanted to make. The issue is about money after all....

Anyway if the men campaign for the next 40 years, maybe it'll be equal rights eventually

Thank you for getting back to me, appreciate it x

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Men, women, couples should all pay the same price. It is discriminatory and I think it is illegal, if not, it should be.

They are private clubs so can offer discounts for under represented groups. Would you prefer a club full of single men?

Being bi that wouldn't really bother me. Next time you go out see how you would like it if you got charged more just because you had a vagina. It's not fair."

It took Muirfield Golf Club nearly 300 years to allow members with vaginas, I bet it would have been different if the members with cocks could have got there ends away!

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"[Removed by poster at 07/03/20 19:53:46]when women are discriminated against its rightly called out . The other way around ..shrug of shoulders. Another symptom of the disingenuous nonsense about social patriarchal dominance. "

I don't believe that the financial experiences of men hoping for easy sex at a swingers club represents an erosion of social patriarchal dominance!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"IT is NOT ILLEGAL - try looking at your local PRIVATE golf club. Males pay more than ladies to smack balls all over the place !!!! A que for some light hearted comments - any takers.

There's a difference between charging women less to encourage them to get involved, and charging them less to make the product more attractive to men.

If no women turn up at a golf course men still play golf."
perfect

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? . My Friday night at OP4F is £50 and a Saturday night is £70.It’s a 15 - 20 minutes drive so less than a £5 petrol and I don’t drink alcohol so no more than £5 in soft drinks.I pay it and I always have a good night out and anything else is a bonus no expectations no disappointment.

Yeah it's a bit pricey for all. Its the point I wanted to make. The issue is about money after all....

Anyway if the men campaign for the next 40 years, maybe it'll be equal rights eventually

Thank you for getting back to me, appreciate it x"
. Some would say what do I expect after all I am in London so I guess it’s London prices.I am not complaining about the money it is what it is I am a adult I know the price before attending its my decision to go or not like I said earlier I always have a good night out no expectations no disappointment

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By *inderellaRockerfellazCouple
over a year ago

warrington


"IT is NOT ILLEGAL - try looking at your local PRIVATE golf club. Males pay more than ladies to smack balls all over the place !!!! A que for some light hearted comments - any takers.

There's a difference between charging women less to encourage them to get involved, and charging them less to make the product more attractive to men.

If no women turn up at a golf course men still play golf. perfect "

So you have heard of men & women playing around together !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hence why I don't attend clubs, it's prices is shocking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you have heard of men & women playing around together !!! "

Yes but if no women turn up the men aren't just gonna go "well I'm not interested in playing golf with other men" are they, silly.

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By *inkyman1964Man
over a year ago

Stoke-on-Trent


"I have wanted to go to some other clubs but am not willing to pay the high price of getting in and daylight robbery for the membership. There loss not mine I stick to the 3 clubs

I agree they should scrap membership, just take details on entry "

They can't always do that, if they are classed as a private member's club you have to be a member otherwise the local council could close them down. Lifetime membership fee of £10 isn't excessive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Statistically there are 101 men for every 100 women so logically there is only an insignificant difference between the amount of single men and single women.

If you take into account infanticide which exists in less developed countries and cultures(female babies are the ones usually killed) then its likely that the ratio difference between single men and single women in the UK is negligable.

The main reasons there are more males at clubs is that less females attend swinging clubs and a lot of the single males are probably actually married / attached.

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By *d4fun73Man
over a year ago

Shipley

So why don't many single women go to clubs? Seeing as it's cheaper for them...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? "
i went to the old abfabs on couples night i paid the entrance for both can't remember the breakdown it cost me £120 to get in

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham


"So why don't many single women go to clubs? Seeing as it's cheaper for them... "

Maybe they feel vulnerable if the number of single men isn't controlled in certain clubs?

A lot of single women go to Chams because they feel safe there

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

for me i think the mindset of a lot of single guys is wrong....

see i am comparing the price for example of going to a club on the might i want to go... comparing to the price of something else i would do at the same time...

see.. i don't begrudge what other people pay.... i look at the comparison to what i would pay!

when you look at it like that... i bet you'd spent as much going out on a saturday night in any town centre, as you would going to a swinging club!

the only bug i have is paying membership as well as the normal club charges on a 1st visit (especially if i am out of region and won't go to that club more than once/twice a year... that i find harder to justify)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away.

Really? So a guy travels 2 hours to go to a club, pays for a hotel (people travel from Ireland to come to ours!) and you think he would be ok with a 'sorry mate, you can't come in, we don't want a cockfest' ? This is why not many people could run a successful swingers club.

This subject has been done to death.

1/ It's not illegal for a private members club to charge different prices to under represented groups...take a look at the Equality act. If you go to a club that has a membership scheme, this is legal.

2/ Clubs charge different prices up and down the country so do some homework rather than bitch and find one that suits your wallet. We have nights where everyone gets charged £10 per person and they're not just social nights. Buxom Babes is one.

3/ Clubs could fill their venue with guys every night. I would say for every female enquiry, we get 20 or more guys. If you don't want to pay, someone else will. However, our prices are fair and won't break the bank.

4/ Good clubs monitor ratios and try to create a night which is balanced and not cock heavy by running and maintaining guestlists, which is confirmed through messaging. We issue strikes to people who add onto guestlists and cancel; people learn to only add when they are certain and it makes the monitoring of ratios easier.

5/ If you want everyone to be charged the same price on every night, then I hope you are at least bi curious and be prepared to be turned away at the door if it's too cock heavy. So don't plan a long journey to a club or book a hotel as it could be costly and a waste of your time.

6/ I've been to a club which charges people similar prices and doesn't take ID from people and they let anybody in because they just want your money. The ratio was around 12:1 and I had an entourage every time I went for a piss! I was like the Pied Piper! The guys were pissed off that they 'had paid their money and weren't getting action' and I found it to be the most unsexy club I've been to. Even if I was attracted to any of the guys, I wouldn't have played because the volume of guys was too intimidating. The testosterone in the club was pungent!

If you don't get why clubs charge what they do, then you are not the type of customer who should be going to clubs. Book yourself a more expensive hotel room, put a meet up on here and take your chances

Vicky xx"

Exactly this Vicky xxx we could not put it any better ourselves, xxx well said and end of.

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By *niper oneMan
over a year ago

DERBY/Notts border


"It’s not illegal. Nothing illegal about giving a discount to an under represented group. Don’t like it, then don’t go. "

Discrimination never ever mentions the word discount in any club.

ok ill put it this way a white man pays £30 entry an asian man £25 and a black man £20 as there an under represented group you think that wiuld go down well ? No difference and to be a private club it needs to be membership only and most are not.So the moral is its discrimination.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away.

Really? So a guy travels 2 hours to go to a club, pays for a hotel (people travel from Ireland to come to ours!) and you think he would be ok with a 'sorry mate, you can't come in, we don't want a cockfest' ? This is why not many people could run a successful swingers club.

This subject has been done to death.

1/ It's not illegal for a private members club to charge different prices to under represented groups...take a look at the Equality act. If you go to a club that has a membership scheme, this is legal.

2/ Clubs charge different prices up and down the country so do some homework rather than bitch and find one that suits your wallet. We have nights where everyone gets charged £10 per person and they're not just social nights. Buxom Babes is one.

3/ Clubs could fill their venue with guys every night. I would say for every female enquiry, we get 20 or more guys. If you don't want to pay, someone else will. However, our prices are fair and won't break the bank.

4/ Good clubs monitor ratios and try to create a night which is balanced and not cock heavy by running and maintaining guestlists, which is confirmed through messaging. We issue strikes to people who add onto guestlists and cancel; people learn to only add when they are certain and it makes the monitoring of ratios easier.

5/ If you want everyone to be charged the same price on every night, then I hope you are at least bi curious and be prepared to be turned away at the door if it's too cock heavy. So don't plan a long journey to a club or book a hotel as it could be costly and a waste of your time.

6/ I've been to a club which charges people similar prices and doesn't take ID from people and they let anybody in because they just want your money. The ratio was around 12:1 and I had an entourage every time I went for a piss! I was like the Pied Piper! The guys were pissed off that they 'had paid their money and weren't getting action' and I found it to be the most unsexy club I've been to. Even if I was attracted to any of the guys, I wouldn't have played because the volume of guys was too intimidating. The testosterone in the club was pungent!

If you don't get why clubs charge what they do, then you are not the type of customer who should be going to clubs. Book yourself a more expensive hotel room, put a meet up on here and take your chances

Vicky xx"

Excellent post some of the guys posting on here demanding equal prices are just showing how much they don't understand a, how private membership clubs and pricing variables work for underrepresented groups and b, the swinging club scene in general and will probably have found there way onto a few blocked lists aswell. As a couple we pay the same rate as single guys (yes we know we are 2 people but 1 is female which is vital to the club dynamic) and considering most clubs you bring your own alcohol and the volume of time the clubs are open its a cheap night out!

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"It’s not illegal. Nothing illegal about giving a discount to an under represented group. Don’t like it, then don’t go.

Discrimination never ever mentions the word discount in any club.

ok ill put it this way a white man pays £30 entry an asian man £25 and a black man £20 as there an under represented group you think that wiuld go down well ? No difference and to be a private club it needs to be membership only and most are not.So the moral is its discrimination."

The point you're missing is the underrepresented group in this case is females, with whom the men want to get their wicks wet!

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"It's one of the things we love about Asylum . Everyone pays the same. Girls pay£10, guys pay £10 and couples pay £10 each. It's fair and also stops the guys who pay more expecting more. Some idiots think that they deserve to get laid in clubs if the have paid a premium.

This is why I prefer clubs with equal prices too. If they want to limit single guys they can simply turn some away.

Really? So a guy travels 2 hours to go to a club, pays for a hotel (people travel from Ireland to come to ours!) and you think he would be ok with a 'sorry mate, you can't come in, we don't want a cockfest' ? This is why not many people could run a successful swingers club.

This subject has been done to death.

1/ It's not illegal for a private members club to charge different prices to under represented groups...take a look at the Equality act. If you go to a club that has a membership scheme, this is legal.

2/ Clubs charge different prices up and down the country so do some homework rather than bitch and find one that suits your wallet. We have nights where everyone gets charged £10 per person and they're not just social nights. Buxom Babes is one.

3/ Clubs could fill their venue with guys every night. I would say for every female enquiry, we get 20 or more guys. If you don't want to pay, someone else will. However, our prices are fair and won't break the bank.

4/ Good clubs monitor ratios and try to create a night which is balanced and not cock heavy by running and maintaining guestlists, which is confirmed through messaging. We issue strikes to people who add onto guestlists and cancel; people learn to only add when they are certain and it makes the monitoring of ratios easier.

5/ If you want everyone to be charged the same price on every night, then I hope you are at least bi curious and be prepared to be turned away at the door if it's too cock heavy. So don't plan a long journey to a club or book a hotel as it could be costly and a waste of your time.

6/ I've been to a club which charges people similar prices and doesn't take ID from people and they let anybody in because they just want your money. The ratio was around 12:1 and I had an entourage every time I went for a piss! I was like the Pied Piper! The guys were pissed off that they 'had paid their money and weren't getting action' and I found it to be the most unsexy club I've been to. Even if I was attracted to any of the guys, I wouldn't have played because the volume of guys was too intimidating. The testosterone in the club was pungent!

If you don't get why clubs charge what they do, then you are not the type of customer who should be going to clubs. Book yourself a more expensive hotel room, put a meet up on here and take your chances

Vicky xx

Exactly this Vicky xxx we could not put it any better ourselves, xxx well said and end of."

This is why we love The Townhouse. They totally are on the ball as far as ratios go and the single men who attend are respectful and understand the scene rather than the whingey 'I can't get a shag/it's not fair whingers' that over run this site.

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By *niper oneMan
over a year ago

DERBY/Notts border


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even."
most clubs are full of guys lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? i went to the old abfabs on couples night i paid the entrance for both can't remember the breakdown it cost me £120 to get in "

Jesus thought I paid a lot for a single fem night out....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? i went to the old abfabs on couples night i paid the entrance for both can't remember the breakdown it cost me £120 to get in

Jesus thought I paid a lot for a single fem night out....

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yours was very expensive, which club?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s not illegal. Nothing illegal about giving a discount to an under represented group. Don’t like it, then don’t go.

Discrimination never ever mentions the word discount in any club.

ok ill put it this way a white man pays £30 entry an asian man £25 and a black man £20 as there an under represented group you think that wiuld go down well ? No difference and to be a private club it needs to be membership only and most are not.So the moral is its discrimination.

The point you're missing is the underrepresented group in this case is females, with whom the men want to get their wicks wet! "
i don't think anyone misses the point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep. Still only the crap males that have a problem with it all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I hold my hands up and admit I was wrong please. I didn't understand the true dynamics of the ratios at clubs and the pricing structure. To everyone who I have offended, I'm sorry.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different."

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bet if these guys moaning were good enough to get meets, it would be a different story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not "

Is your argument that if someone isn't willing to spend significant time and effort righting a wrong, it isn't really wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ugly guys who can’t hold a conversation will fail here as well as at a club. Price is immaterial really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ugly guys who can’t hold a conversation will fail here as well as at a club. Price is immaterial really "

Lots of ugly guys getting lots of action on here and at clubs

Should clubs be allowed to use a price structure to attract single women in, then "sell" that to single men at a premium? Seems immoral to me, but maybe we think that's just good business sense? Is there a difference?

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not "

Wouldn't happen judge would laugh.

Using mcds well if you use an app or receive vouchers you can get reduced cost on your burger. What about people who don't get the vouchers or reductions?

What about 10% student discounts?

Discounts for military and emergency services?

It's the same thing, not everyone gets reduced price specific groups of people can be prioritised.

Same with love honey and fab, men get different discount to women, I don't know what discount couples get though.

If you don't want to pay then don't other people will though.

Incentives for women to go to a club I'd say quite a lot of men would agree to, what ever entices women into clubs. The unicorn hunter couples I'm sure would agree also.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Camden


"for me i think the mindset of a lot of single guys is wrong....

see i am comparing the price for example of going to a club on the might i want to go... comparing to the price of something else i would do at the same time...

see.. i don't begrudge what other people pay.... i look at the comparison to what i would pay!

when you look at it like that... i bet you'd spent as much going out on a saturday night in any town centre, as you would going to a swinging club!

the only bug i have is paying membership as well as the normal club charges on a 1st visit (especially if i am out of region and won't go to that club more than once/twice a year... that i find harder to justify)"

I'm with you here Fab; I was staying in central Birmingham last year (Hyatt Regency), and looked at visiting a club. Chams was out because of their notorious waiting list for single guys, so Xtasia was the only other choice. The cost for me would have been £40 for annual membership, + £30 entry fee, so £70. Add taxi fares to and from the hotel of £50, that made £120 before I had a drink. Yes, they do offer free entry to any single guy 'allowed' session during the month following your joining, but I was only there for the weekend, so would not be able to take advantage of the follow-ons. I walked around the corner and hit a few of the bars on Broad Street instead

The point I'm making is; I made the choice to go elsewhere, and the OP should do also

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"for me i think the mindset of a lot of single guys is wrong....

see i am comparing the price for example of going to a club on the might i want to go... comparing to the price of something else i would do at the same time...

see.. i don't begrudge what other people pay.... i look at the comparison to what i would pay!

when you look at it like that... i bet you'd spent as much going out on a saturday night in any town centre, as you would going to a swinging club!

the only bug i have is paying membership as well as the normal club charges on a 1st visit (especially if i am out of region and won't go to that club more than once/twice a year... that i find harder to justify)

I'm with you here Fab; I was staying in central Birmingham last year (Hyatt Regency), and looked at visiting a club. Chams was out because of their notorious waiting list for single guys, so Xtasia was the only other choice. The cost for me would have been £40 for annual membership, + £30 entry fee, so £70. Add taxi fares to and from the hotel of £50, that made £120 before I had a drink. Yes, they do offer free entry to any single guy 'allowed' session during the month following your joining, but I was only there for the weekend, so would not be able to take advantage of the follow-ons. I walked around the corner and hit a few of the bars on Broad Street instead

The point I'm making is; I made the choice to go elsewhere, and the OP should do also "
. For one off visit just because you are in the area that is very expensive.However If you live near the area and can get to and from your home to the club via your car , public transport then £40 annual membership and £30 entry fee sounds ok to me.

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By *niper oneMan
over a year ago

DERBY/Notts border


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not "
most cluvs now are ob there aeses to be fair they can only run inflating pruces for single guys.All single guys should boycott clubs for one month theyd soon change the entry price then.

Bit like letting hot women into a night club in town for free but ugly or fat women pay am sure that would be ok any thoughts ?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not most cluvs now are ob there aeses to be fair they can only run inflating pruces for single guys.All single guys should boycott clubs for one month theyd soon change the entry price then.

Bit like letting hot women into a night club in town for free but ugly or fat women pay am sure that would be ok any thoughts ?"

There's a lot of vanilla nightclubs that refuse entry to women they deem as unwanted. If your face doesn't fit, you ain't getting in, so it happens in all areas of the nightlife industry.

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By *niper oneMan
over a year ago

DERBY/Notts border


"Single guys have same choice as couples pay the price or don't that's the equality "
So whats equal about a single woman paying £10 entry and a guy £25 eeeeer none

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


". For one off visit just because you are in the area that is very expensive.However If you live near the area and can get to and from your home to the club via your car , public transport then £40 annual membership and £30 entry fee sounds ok to me."

Quite a few clubs in the Northwest would be nowhere near £ 70:00....

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not most cluvs now are ob there aeses to be fair they can only run inflating pruces for single guys.All single guys should boycott clubs for one month theyd soon change the entry price then.

Bit like letting hot women into a night club in town for free but ugly or fat women pay am sure that would be ok any thoughts ?"

Please boycott the clubs. You will be missed....no wait ...you won't. So are you going to challenge this properly, through the court or are you just having a whinge on here?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not most cluvs now are ob there aeses to be fair they can only run inflating pruces for single guys.All single guys should boycott clubs for one month theyd soon change the entry price then.

Bit like letting hot women into a night club in town for free but ugly or fat women pay am sure that would be ok any thoughts ?

Please boycott the clubs. You will be missed....no wait ...you won't. So are you going to challenge this properly, through the court or are you just having a whinge on here?"

I don't go to vanilla clubs so frankly I couldn't give a rats arse, but I'm aware of the informal admission policies via friends who do go out. I'm perfectly happy with the way things are for now, ta.

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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago

cheshire

Seems to be the single men whinging.

If you dont like it....dont go.....simples

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Swingers clubs have been going for at least 30 years.

Always been that way... k

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not most cluvs now are ob there aeses to be fair they can only run inflating pruces for single guys.All single guys should boycott clubs for one month theyd soon change the entry price then.

Bit like letting hot women into a night club in town for free but ugly or fat women pay am sure that would be ok any thoughts ?

Please boycott the clubs. You will be missed....no wait ...you won't. So are you going to challenge this properly, through the court or are you just having a whinge on here?"
nobodys whinging, people are just making quite plausible argument.......... as many have said its unfair, unethical and probably some legal legislation that could be used if anyone were foolish enough to employ it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

Disgusting comment eg “working girls” which endangers single lady’s that choose to visit clubs for their own enjoyment. Such comments suggest that you, when visiting a club consider the ladies attending to be something they are not. "

Some clubs have working girls on certain nights one of the club's I used to go to had them 2 nights a week and the club would pretty much tell the real female customers to avoid them nights..I don't think he was saying that woman who go to clubs are working girls!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single guys aren’t the big cash cow that you think. Most clubs limit single guys because they just aren’t in demand. The majority of people in clubs are couples looking to play with other couples. Guy numbers are limited because too many guys in a club scares couples away and they are the bread and butter of swinging.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not most cluvs now are ob there aeses to be fair they can only run inflating pruces for single guys.All single guys should boycott clubs for one month theyd soon change the entry price then.

Bit like letting hot women into a night club in town for free but ugly or fat women pay am sure that would be ok any thoughts ?

Please boycott the clubs. You will be missed....no wait ...you won't. So are you going to challenge this properly, through the court or are you just having a whinge on here?nobodys whinging, people are just making quite plausible argument.......... as many have said its unfair, unethical and probably some legal legislation that could be used if anyone were foolish enough to employ it "

Oh they are whingeing...and have been for years. If it's sooooo unfair then take a club to court. See what happens. It only takes one I believe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Supply and demand.

There are loads of single men, so they pay more.

Not so many single women, so they pay less.

Most men wouldn't like it if they walked into a club and it was just full of guys. So the discounted fee is a way to draw in the single women, and keep the ratios more even.lol most clubs are full of guys.

Paying a higher price is actually discrimination,only takes one person to complain and all will end up paying the same.Bit like going to maccy ds for a burger meal man pays £3.99 a woman turns up and only pays £1.99 no different.

So will you be the one person to complain? Take the issue through the courts? Anyone? No thought not most cluvs now are ob there aeses to be fair they can only run inflating pruces for single guys.All single guys should boycott clubs for one month theyd soon change the entry price then.

Bit like letting hot women into a night club in town for free but ugly or fat women pay am sure that would be ok any thoughts ?

Please boycott the clubs. You will be missed....no wait ...you won't. So are you going to challenge this properly, through the court or are you just having a whinge on here?nobodys whinging, people are just making quite plausible argument.......... as many have said its unfair, unethical and probably some legal legislation that could be used if anyone were foolish enough to employ it

Oh they are whingeing...and have been for years. If it's sooooo unfair then take a club to court. See what happens. It only takes one I believe. "
hey the british are famous whingers at least let us keep that accolade

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable."

You refer to Sex Clubs in your comments, and their provision of working girls. You do know that Swingers Clubs & Sex Clubs are two different things?

The entry fees for Swingers clubs are designed to attract a specific demographic in line with the event that is on. For an event to be a success it requires a number of people within that demographic. Pricing is set to help ensure the demographic is met.

Pricing structures exist in a wide array of industries. Discounted rates for certain sections of the community are common. Student discounts encourage younger people into bars, restaurants, clubs & pubs. They pay less for their food, drink or entry than you or I, but it helps the business pull in younger people, or people who might be out drinking on a week night.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but it does make you sound particularly supercilious

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By *estrianguyMan
over a year ago

chester

Interesting article

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/discrimination/discrimination-because-of-sex-or-sexual-orientation/discrimination-because-of-sex/

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral


"Interesting article

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/discrimination/discrimination-because-of-sex-or-sexual-orientation/discrimination-because-of-sex/"

Interesting, yes. Relevant, no.

The Equalities Act 2010 provides for private members clubs to set pricing accordingly

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By *n With LifeCouple
over a year ago

Hadley Wood


"Interesting article

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/discrimination/discrimination-because-of-sex-or-sexual-orientation/discrimination-because-of-sex/

Interesting, yes. Relevant, no.

The Equalities Act 2010 provides for private members clubs to set pricing accordingly "

This thread is a boring repeat of many we have had in the past.

If men object to paying to get into a club then just don’t go.

Those that get it should continue going enjoy it and respect the women that go.

No matter what the entrance fee nothing guarantees sex, just enjoy the day or evening and regard it as money well spent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

You refer to Sex Clubs in your comments, and their provision of working girls. You do know that Swingers Clubs & Sex Clubs are two different things?

The entry fees for Swingers clubs are designed to attract a specific demographic in line with the event that is on. For an event to be a success it requires a number of people within that demographic. Pricing is set to help ensure the demographic is met.

Pricing structures exist in a wide array of industries. Discounted rates for certain sections of the community are common. Student discounts encourage younger people into bars, restaurants, clubs & pubs. They pay less for their food, drink or entry than you or I, but it helps the business pull in younger people, or people who might be out drinking on a week night.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but it does make you sound particularly supercilious

"

Well, one of us did use supercilious in a comment on a swingers site, and the other didn't. If you project much more someone will try to connect you to a DVD player.

When bars give student discounts it's to get more students in to sell students more stuff, not to use them to attract in older punters. Swingers clubs use their pricing structure to persuade women to come in, and to persuade men to pay a premium because there are women in their clubs. See the difference?

Clubs charge single women a token amount to get them in to the club, and then raise the prices for couples and single men to whatever they think they can. And they can raise those prices because they're selling those single women as part of the experience - they're part of the product.

(If you think single men are just priced punitively to keep them away, why do couples prices go up when they're excluded on certain nights? Because without them someone else has to make up the shortfall - but never single women, because they're part of the product and why many couples are turning up in the first place)

Same as on Facebook or Twitter or anything else free (or cheap enough to be effectively free) - you're not the customer, someone else is.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Because the gender pay gap.

Fantastic reply!"

My weekend wife earns more than me, so that's not the case for us.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

You refer to Sex Clubs in your comments, and their provision of working girls. You do know that Swingers Clubs & Sex Clubs are two different things?

The entry fees for Swingers clubs are designed to attract a specific demographic in line with the event that is on. For an event to be a success it requires a number of people within that demographic. Pricing is set to help ensure the demographic is met.

Pricing structures exist in a wide array of industries. Discounted rates for certain sections of the community are common. Student discounts encourage younger people into bars, restaurants, clubs & pubs. They pay less for their food, drink or entry than you or I, but it helps the business pull in younger people, or people who might be out drinking on a week night.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but it does make you sound particularly supercilious

Well, one of us did use supercilious in a comment on a swingers site, and the other didn't. If you project much more someone will try to connect you to a DVD player.

When bars give student discounts it's to get more students in to sell students more stuff, not to use them to attract in older punters. Swingers clubs use their pricing structure to persuade women to come in, and to persuade men to pay a premium because there are women in their clubs. See the difference?

Clubs charge single women a token amount to get them in to the club, and then raise the prices for couples and single men to whatever they think they can. And they can raise those prices because they're selling those single women as part of the experience - they're part of the product.

(If you think single men are just priced punitively to keep them away, why do couples prices go up when they're excluded on certain nights? Because without them someone else has to make up the shortfall - but never single women, because they're part of the product and why many couples are turning up in the first place)

Same as on Facebook or Twitter or anything else free (or cheap enough to be effectively free) - you're not the customer, someone else is."

House!!!! I've filed my bingo card. Was just waiting for 'single women are a product'

Join in next week peeps for 'club pricing bingo' for your chance to win cock all

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Can we not just win cock?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

You refer to Sex Clubs in your comments, and their provision of working girls. You do know that Swingers Clubs & Sex Clubs are two different things?

The entry fees for Swingers clubs are designed to attract a specific demographic in line with the event that is on. For an event to be a success it requires a number of people within that demographic. Pricing is set to help ensure the demographic is met.

Pricing structures exist in a wide array of industries. Discounted rates for certain sections of the community are common. Student discounts encourage younger people into bars, restaurants, clubs & pubs. They pay less for their food, drink or entry than you or I, but it helps the business pull in younger people, or people who might be out drinking on a week night.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but it does make you sound particularly supercilious

Well, one of us did use supercilious in a comment on a swingers site, and the other didn't. If you project much more someone will try to connect you to a DVD player.

When bars give student discounts it's to get more students in to sell students more stuff, not to use them to attract in older punters. Swingers clubs use their pricing structure to persuade women to come in, and to persuade men to pay a premium because there are women in their clubs. See the difference?

Clubs charge single women a token amount to get them in to the club, and then raise the prices for couples and single men to whatever they think they can. And they can raise those prices because they're selling those single women as part of the experience - they're part of the product.

(If you think single men are just priced punitively to keep them away, why do couples prices go up when they're excluded on certain nights? Because without them someone else has to make up the shortfall - but never single women, because they're part of the product and why many couples are turning up in the first place)

Same as on Facebook or Twitter or anything else free (or cheap enough to be effectively free) - you're not the customer, someone else is.

House!!!! I've filed my bingo card. Was just waiting for 'single women are a product'

Join in next week peeps for 'club pricing bingo' for your chance to win cock all "

Amen !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"House!!!! I've filed my bingo card. Was just waiting for 'single women are a product'

Join in next week peeps for 'club pricing bingo' for your chance to win cock all "

Tune in next week for anti-feminists again hand-waving away critique of patriarchal structures because it makes them uncomfortable

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By *niper oneMan
over a year ago

DERBY/Notts border


"Single guys aren’t the big cash cow that you think. Most clubs limit single guys because they just aren’t in demand. The majority of people in clubs are couples looking to play with other couples. Guy numbers are limited because too many guys in a club scares couples away and they are the bread and butter of swinging. "
Beg to differ on that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? i went to the old abfabs on couples night i paid the entrance for both can't remember the breakdown it cost me £120 to get in

Jesus thought I paid a lot for a single fem night out....

yours was very expensive, which club? "

Mine was about the whole experience.... Travel, hotel, entrance. I'm a non driver, only 50 mins away from a decent club - as a single fem, it still can be pricey. Was the point I was trying to make.... Not moaning, just a point of view x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My last visit to a club including, entrance, staying over and public transport - cost nearly £70. I wondering if men have to pay that for an evening at a club? i went to the old abfabs on couples night i paid the entrance for both can't remember the breakdown it cost me £120 to get in

Jesus thought I paid a lot for a single fem night out....

yours was very expensive, which club?

Mine was about the whole experience.... Travel, hotel, entrance. I'm a non driver, only 50 mins away from a decent club - as a single fem, it still can be pricey. Was the point I was trying to make.... Not moaning, just a point of view x"
yes, knew you weren't moaning and yes it can be very expensive especially for guys

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"It doesnt just put the idiots off though, it

also puts genuine guys off."

If you really think about it .. if you took a woman out for a night out hopefully at the end if it your in for a good time ... surely that is going to cost you way more than 25 quid entry fee ?? And yes may be pricey for membership on top for first time but again that's a 1 off ?? Most women on here go to the clubs we feel it's a safer environment x

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Camden


"It doesnt just put the idiots off though, it

also puts genuine guys off.

If you really think about it .. if you took a woman out for a night out hopefully at the end if it your in for a good time ... surely that is going to cost you way more than 25 quid entry fee ?? And yes may be pricey for membership on top for first time but again that's a 1 off ?? Most women on here go to the clubs we feel it's a safer environment x"

Not all club membership fees are a one-off; one in the North West charges single guys £60 for ANNUAL membership, while they ask £10 for couples, and £5 single ladies, for LIFETIME membership.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never been in a club ..

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"It doesnt just put the idiots off though, it

also puts genuine guys off.

If you really think about it .. if you took a woman out for a night out hopefully at the end if it your in for a good time ... surely that is going to cost you way more than 25 quid entry fee ?? And yes may be pricey for membership on top for first time but again that's a 1 off ?? Most women on here go to the clubs we feel it's a safer environment x

Not all club membership fees are a one-off; one in the North West charges single guys £60 for ANNUAL membership, while they ask £10 for couples, and £5 single ladies, for LIFETIME membership. "

Just want to confirm that this is NOT US! Our memberships are free for all x

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Camden


"It doesnt just put the idiots off though, it

also puts genuine guys off.

If you really think about it .. if you took a woman out for a night out hopefully at the end if it your in for a good time ... surely that is going to cost you way more than 25 quid entry fee ?? And yes may be pricey for membership on top for first time but again that's a 1 off ?? Most women on here go to the clubs we feel it's a safer environment x

Not all club membership fees are a one-off; one in the North West charges single guys £60 for ANNUAL membership, while they ask £10 for couples, and £5 single ladies, for LIFETIME membership.

Just want to confirm that this is NOT US! Our memberships are free for all x"

I can confirm that TH does not charge for lifetime membership

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

You refer to Sex Clubs in your comments, and their provision of working girls. You do know that Swingers Clubs & Sex Clubs are two different things?

The entry fees for Swingers clubs are designed to attract a specific demographic in line with the event that is on. For an event to be a success it requires a number of people within that demographic. Pricing is set to help ensure the demographic is met.

Pricing structures exist in a wide array of industries. Discounted rates for certain sections of the community are common. Student discounts encourage younger people into bars, restaurants, clubs & pubs. They pay less for their food, drink or entry than you or I, but it helps the business pull in younger people, or people who might be out drinking on a week night.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but it does make you sound particularly supercilious

Well, one of us did use supercilious in a comment on a swingers site, and the other didn't. If you project much more someone will try to connect you to a DVD player.

When bars give student discounts it's to get more students in to sell students more stuff, not to use them to attract in older punters. Swingers clubs use their pricing structure to persuade women to come in, and to persuade men to pay a premium because there are women in their clubs. See the difference?

Clubs charge single women a token amount to get them in to the club, and then raise the prices for couples and single men to whatever they think they can. And they can raise those prices because they're selling those single women as part of the experience - they're part of the product.

(If you think single men are just priced punitively to keep them away, why do couples prices go up when they're excluded on certain nights? Because without them someone else has to make up the shortfall - but never single women, because they're part of the product and why many couples are turning up in the first place)

Same as on Facebook or Twitter or anything else free (or cheap enough to be effectively free) - you're not the customer, someone else is."

For the record, I, and most single female clubgoers I know, wouldn't be happy being referred to as 'for sale' or 'part of the product'. It's disrespectful.

As someone said above, the pricing structure in private member clubs IS NOT illegal, try and challenge it in court, you'd have no chance.

I'm fairly sure the clubs would carry on just fine without a few single men from fab getting their knickers in a twist and refusing to attend, especially since most of the ones complaining don't go to clubs anyway

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"It doesnt just put the idiots off though, it

also puts genuine guys off.

If you really think about it .. if you took a woman out for a night out hopefully at the end if it your in for a good time ... surely that is going to cost you way more than 25 quid entry fee ?? And yes may be pricey for membership on top for first time but again that's a 1 off ?? Most women on here go to the clubs we feel it's a safer environment x

Not all club membership fees are a one-off; one in the North West charges single guys £60 for ANNUAL membership, while they ask £10 for couples, and £5 single ladies, for LIFETIME membership. "

Then these are the clubs you avoid I think a lot of clubs really need to remember us single ladies want you sexy single men and if it's only couples oriented then it will put us off xx

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"I'm honestly not that fussed about the "unfairness" - as many have said, women draw the short straw in a lot of other situations (though whether or not gender-based pricing, in sex clubs or hairdressers, is illegal is actually not a settled matter since nobody has challenged it under the Equality Act, which technically and probably makes both illegal).

What I don't like is how closely the pricing matches clubs that have working girls, and where they are clearly part of the service you're paying for.

It's clear to me that these clubs see women as a product that needs to be attracted to the club, which then allows them to sell "a club with women in it" to men - at a premium. And that is literally, and unambiguously, what they are doing - and as a guy that makes me hella uncomfortable.

You refer to Sex Clubs in your comments, and their provision of working girls. You do know that Swingers Clubs & Sex Clubs are two different things?

The entry fees for Swingers clubs are designed to attract a specific demographic in line with the event that is on. For an event to be a success it requires a number of people within that demographic. Pricing is set to help ensure the demographic is met.

Pricing structures exist in a wide array of industries. Discounted rates for certain sections of the community are common. Student discounts encourage younger people into bars, restaurants, clubs & pubs. They pay less for their food, drink or entry than you or I, but it helps the business pull in younger people, or people who might be out drinking on a week night.

You’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, but it does make you sound particularly supercilious

Well, one of us did use supercilious in a comment on a swingers site, and the other didn't. If you project much more someone will try to connect you to a DVD player.

When bars give student discounts it's to get more students in to sell students more stuff, not to use them to attract in older punters. Swingers clubs use their pricing structure to persuade women to come in, and to persuade men to pay a premium because there are women in their clubs. See the difference?

Clubs charge single women a token amount to get them in to the club, and then raise the prices for couples and single men to whatever they think they can. And they can raise those prices because they're selling those single women as part of the experience - they're part of the product.

(If you think single men are just priced punitively to keep them away, why do couples prices go up when they're excluded on certain nights? Because without them someone else has to make up the shortfall - but never single women, because they're part of the product and why many couples are turning up in the first place)

Same as on Facebook or Twitter or anything else free (or cheap enough to be effectively free) - you're not the customer, someone else is."

Bloody hell WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT A PRODUCT too much dom mate !!!

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By *olf BlassMan
over a year ago

blackpool

To be honest most places have overhead costs. The cover charges are made up at the time. You need to remember its pay for the privilege not the law.

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