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By *otcouple65 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

I went to a BBW night at Chams in the past and had no issues but a woman there who is slim said she had some rude comments. We would like to go and admire BBW women but want no stress. I recently saw a thread on here from a lady complaining about slim women at these events. What do people think? Surely all club nights should be inclusive as we are members.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I went to a BBW night at Chams in the past and had no issues but a woman there who is slim said she had some rude comments. We would like to go and admire BBW women but want no stress. I recently saw a thread on here from a lady complaining about slim women at these events. What do people think? Surely all club nights should be inclusive as we are members. "

Maybe the woman being sadly called out for her body size, liked a bigger lady herself? Was it a straight night for men and women only?...which I doubt at Chams.

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By *otcouple65 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

It was a BBW night with a guest list for anyone to apply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go along to whichever event you feel free to, unless it's a private party or strict dress code, I'm unsure as to why anyone would call you out, other than for their own insecurities.

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By *otcouple65 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

It's an illustration of the very real assumption that it's OK to body shame and exclude slim women

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By *taffs Naturist guyMan
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I have found the customers at these events can be far from the normal type of clientele you would normally expect in a club. It has been obvious that they got in on a guest list and were not paid up members who value their membership ! With a lack of manners and etiquette from both males and females. Whilst I accept that a bbw event is just that a club should still cater for its bread and butter members.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone should bd able to go if its an open invite. How somebody views themselves could be completely different to how others view them.

Also you could be there because you fancy a bbw. Who knows. Just go and have fun

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I think coming across the occasional idiot at club is inevitable. The lady you describe making the comment sound just like one of them. All body shapes are welcome and I think the vast proportion of people are decent and supportive. The skill is to know when someone is being an idiot, ignore them and enjoy the night with everyone else.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I went to a BBW night at Chams in the past and had no issues but a woman there who is slim said she had some rude comments. We would like to go and admire BBW women but want no stress. I recently saw a thread on here from a lady complaining about slim women at these events. What do people think? Surely all club nights should be inclusive as we are members. "

I'm fairly sure that I know the situation you're talking about and I think the rude lady was spoken to by the club staff.

The bbw nights are for larger ladies and their admirers, whoever complained on here about it needs to look at what the night is actually for. Go along, ignore the miserable people and enjoy yourself, you're as entitled to be there as the bbw's.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry


"I have found the customers at these events can be far from the normal type of clientele you would normally expect in a club. It has been obvious that they got in on a guest list and were not paid up members who value their membership ! With a lack of manners and etiquette from both males and females. Whilst I accept that a bbw event is just that a club should still cater for its bread and butter members. "

I love larger women, my partner is a big woman so you'd think we'd love bbw nights? But we don't like them, for a lot for the reasons you state. We find there often is a real lack of respect by some of the visitors for women, for etiquette and for the facilities. Men who just think they can help themselves and just throw used condoms anywhere. Seen a pair of young girls throwing beer can into dungeon and heckling at the people playing in there. We are often at it till the end and we never see the club in such as state as it is at the end of bbw night. We been to 2 (2nd by accident as we didn't realise, just fancied sunday in the club). I'm really not sure if we'd go again because there is just so much disrespect. Which is a real shame because of course the majority of people there are great. And to be fair there is always a great selection of all shapes and sizes on a normal club night so we don't need bbw night.

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By *gcw2014Couple
over a year ago

just outside of liverpool

Had a bad experience at a bi night in one club. Openly advertised as bi night but because chris was sucking another cock this offended one couple. Not been since

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There

I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like. "

I’m quite surprised women would feel self conscious at events such as these, where the purpose is surely to celebrate women of a larger size who feel proud and confident? That was my assumption anyways, perhaps I’m wrong ...

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By *otcouple65 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Thanks for comments I agree club nights should be all inclusive whatever label is put on them and people should be respectful regardless of sexuality, age or size. Will give it a go and hopefully will be a good night.

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham


"I have found the customers at these events can be far from the normal type of clientele you would normally expect in a club. It has been obvious that they got in on a guest list and were not paid up members who value their membership ! With a lack of manners and etiquette from both males and females. Whilst I accept that a bbw event is just that a club should still cater for its bread and butter members. "

We love Chams but I won't go to bbw events for this reason. Had some not so pleasant experiences with non-members behaving like they're in a brothel.

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By *taffs Naturist guyMan
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I love larger women, my partner is a big woman so you'd think we'd love bbw nights? But we don't like them, for a lot for the reasons you state. We find there often is a real lack of respect by some of the visitors for women, for etiquette and for the facilities. Men who just think they can help themselves and just throw used condoms anywhere. Seen a pair of young girls throwing beer can into dungeon and heckling at the people playing in there. We are often at it till the end and we never see the club in such as state as it is at the end of bbw night. We been to 2 (2nd by accident as we didn't realise, just fancied sunday in the club). I'm really not sure if we'd go again because there is just so much disrespect. Which is a real shame because of course the majority of people there are great. And to be fair there is always a great selection of all shapes and sizes on a normal club night so we don't need bbw night.

Thank you . I’m glad it’s not just me. I didn’t go into the detail of what I had seen but totally agree with your comments. I too have now stopped going on these nights due to the actions of others. As you say it’s a shame as I too am an admirer of the female form in all it’s glory .

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

I’m quite surprised women would feel self conscious at events such as these, where the purpose is surely to celebrate women of a larger size who feel proud and confident? That was my assumption anyways, perhaps I’m wrong ... "

Maybe I didn’t word it well. What I meant is that some bigger girls seek out these events as they feel uncomfortable at others. If then the BBW nights are still full of slim/thin ladies then some don’t like it. Comparison is a big thing for some people I think.

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By *ldestswingerintownMan
over a year ago

Lancaster

Perhaps the definition of "BBW" is a bit of a problem? - a really nice woman I used to know was a size 14/16 - totally average for the female population, I've read - and yet she considered herself to be a "BBW". Perhaps body image isn't always accurate?

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

I have been going to "BBW" events for years. Only got weirdly negative comments ("But you are not curvy!" - really?) from men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually I remember this as I was there and the lady making this comment Is known for having loud opinions once she has had a drink

As a large lady I feel no way that slim ladies are there etc and at yesterday's event it was prodominently slim ladies who were asking for play with myself

If u want to attend go sweetheart

Don't let 1 persons narrow mindedness stop u

Think people become insecure when there are slim ladies around

Rather than thinking positive that these ladies that we admire are actually loving who we are

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)

Ive never seen any of the slimmer ladies getting grief but guessing it can and does happen x

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By *otcouple65 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

We did go and everyone was friendly. There were women of all sizes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

I’m quite surprised women would feel self conscious at events such as these, where the purpose is surely to celebrate women of a larger size who feel proud and confident? That was my assumption anyways, perhaps I’m wrong ...

Maybe I didn’t word it well. What I meant is that some bigger girls seek out these events as they feel uncomfortable at others. If then the BBW nights are still full of slim/thin ladies then some don’t like it. Comparison is a big thing for some people I think.

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Ahh ok, yes makes sense

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By *taffs Naturist guyMan
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"We did go and everyone was friendly. There were women of all sizes "

Glad you had a good time. Fingers crossed the problems from the past have all be sorted out. It is a cracking club and should be enjoyed by all irrespective of a themed evening.

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By *harliebbwWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

as a fat girl who like chams bbw night, I have been to other places and been refered to as the booby prize which sure did a lot for myself esteem but i am sure it would anyone's. for a while I hid in the bbw nights as it did knock me.

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"Perhaps body image isn't always accurate?"

Using FAB's definitions, if a Bulgarian women's shot-putter is an athlete, is that what's meant in these definitions? And if someone says that Angelina Jolie has a fabulous figure, is that what's meant here?

FAB needs a new scale of sizes, that include men as well as women. Then at least there'll be one standard that everyone can refer to, and not just leave it to the immagination.

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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago

cheshire

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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago

cheshire


"[Removed by poster at 28/10/19 19:27:10]"
are you saying im not normal clientele in a club and rude and and bad mannered. I am a bbw by the way..

.. And what do you define as clubs bread and butter??????

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"It's an illustration of the very real assumption that it's OK to body shame and exclude slim women"

Exactly! It's been going on here for years, it seems that slim women are fair game, and I will admit it pisses me off, but what can you do?

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By *etite HandfulWoman
over a year ago

Chester

Jealousy can often result in abuse which is not really acceptable.

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By *OXO2018Couple
over a year ago

Norfolk

Personally we'd not have a problem, as long as they are there to swing and not just stand the the corner and chat. Definitely no need to be rude though.

But I kinda get it as a bbw I'd not go to a slim night.

As a non kinkster I'd not go to a BDSM night.

I wasn't BI I'd not go to a BI night.

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local

No not at all, the comment was made and last night there was a flurry of conversation about “slim” women who go to BBW nights ( Big Beautiful Women)

1, You are too big to be at this event to one beautiful lady, (the lady in question was a PLUS size or BBW)

2, We only come to have a giggle at the fatties. Was a comment over heard by another plus size lady or BBW.

3, I have been mad to feel ashamed of my body at the event by slim ladies and their friends was said by another larger sized guy.

We are meant to be adults this is an adult environment but certain people who at these nights act like school bullies. It is never right to body shame anyone what ever their shape!!!

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

Well said

I’m quite surprised women would feel self conscious at events such as these, where the purpose is surely to celebrate women of a larger size who feel proud and confident? That was my assumption anyways, perhaps I’m wrong ...

Maybe I didn’t word it well. What I meant is that some bigger girls seek out these events as they feel uncomfortable at others. If then the BBW nights are still full of slim/thin ladies then some don’t like it. Comparison is a big thing for some people I think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally we'd not have a problem, as long as they are there to swing and not just stand the the corner and chat. Definitely no need to be rude though.

But I kinda get it as a bbw I'd not go to a slim night.

As a non kinkster I'd not go to a BDSM night.

Agree with this

I wasn't BI I'd not go to a BI night."

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By *taffs Naturist guyMan
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"[Removed by poster at 28/10/19 19:27:10] are you saying im not normal clientele in a club and rude and and bad mannered. I am a bbw by the way..

.. And what do you define as clubs bread and butter?????? "

By normal clientele I mean people who enjoy the swinging lifestyle . A club should be just that a place where people of all shapes, sizes and orientation can meet to have fun while showing others the respect and manners they deserve. If a club has a specialist night then all the better and is a great way to promote all aspects of the lifestyle. My point (and that raised by others in the thread) was that an open event can attract people who do not share the lifestyle and just see it as was put by others as a cheap brothel.

By bread and butter I meant the above respectful members who show respect and understanding to others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jealousy can often result in abuse which is not really acceptable. "

Jealousy in what sense?

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Personally we'd not have a problem, as long as they are there to swing and not just stand the the corner and chat. Definitely no need to be rude though.

But I kinda get it as a bbw I'd not go to a slim night.

As a non kinkster I'd not go to a BDSM night.

I wasn't BI I'd not go to a BI night."

TBH neither would I, I would only attend somewhere where I felt included

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

I was the one that commented on the event thread.

My intention was not to body shame in the slightest. I wouldn't want it done to myself so wouldn't do it to someone else.

My "opinion" which I was entitled to share was that there were people putting their names down who were of the svelter nature who weren't coming to appreciate the more voluptuous nature as their profile clearly says straight and only meets black men. The event is being treated as an interracial event when there are already plenty of them!

There were other people who expressed there opinions too about how they feel uncomfortable at an event they once did. Yet my comment has been the only one jumped on!!!

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local

The bbw (Big Beautiful women) nights can be a good thing as Scarlett would confirm herself she has suffered a few issues that were guys/girls who have made comment about her size and shape.

The lady who made the comment has merely said what was on a lot of people’s minds as we have said that no one should be made to feel uncomfortable or excluded from an event, however if ladies who feel “body confident” for none bbw (Big Beautiful women) nights then they should be helping the people who go to BBW nights that they attend.

On a plus note we are glad that you _otcouple65 had a good night all in all

Hunter xx

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"The bbw (Big Beautiful women) nights can be a good thing as Scarlett would confirm herself she has suffered a few issues that were guys/girls who have made comment about her size and shape.

The lady who made the comment has merely said what was on a lot of people’s minds as we have said that no one should be made to feel uncomfortable or excluded from an event, however if ladies who feel “body confident” for none bbw (Big Beautiful women) nights then they should be helping the people who go to BBW nights that they attend.

On a plus note we are glad that you _otcouple65 had a good night all in all

Hunter xx"

100%

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By *BW SnowbunnyWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere over the Rainbow


"No not at all, the comment was made and last night there was a flurry of conversation about “slim” women who go to BBW nights ( Big Beautiful Women)

1, You are too big to be at this event to one beautiful lady, (the lady in question was a PLUS size or BBW)

2, We only come to have a giggle at the fatties. Was a comment over heard by another plus size lady or BBW.

3, I have been mad to feel ashamed of my body at the event by slim ladies and their friends was said by another larger sized guy.

We are meant to be adults this is an adult environment but certain people who at these nights act like school bullies. It is never right to body shame anyone what ever their shape!!! "

I was the lady that made the first comment I was at chams bbw over a year ago and 2 men were laughing at me, nudging each other and staring at me. They told me I was too fat to be there. I said I’m a bbw and what did they think a bbw was. They pointed to a woman who was around a size 12/14 and said she was a bbw

I was gobsmacked I’ve attended another private bbw party and was called a ‘whale’ by a very very slender lady - I left the party, got in my car and cried most of the way home. I stopped going out to clubs/parties for a while.

I have been excluded from a few clubs and parties due to being a bbw. So a couple have set up a private party that caters for size 18+ ladies only which frankly I rejoice at. I’ve been and felt so comfortable knowing I wasn’t being judged for my size.

The lady accused of causing trouble last year was made a scapegoat for another woman’s poisonous attitude. I’m not sure why she was brought up being it was a year ago either?????

If you’re a regular member at Chams then surely you see the events board and/or on the website/app?

The issues surrounding condoms etc; ANY large party has these issues. Regular club nights it’s different but large parties mean overflowing bins and lots of people A lot of these are non swingers or just have no etiquette ! On a different post there was a comment stating that most of slim ladies that go the bbw party are going for their chocolate fix Something they can get at a lot of other places and parties that are meant for all sizes.

After all certain parties have specific criteria which has to be adhered to to attend Bi night at VA you HAVE to have that you’re bi or bi curious on your fab profile to go.

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By *oobs1Woman
over a year ago

Sussex

Well I’m not going to lie, I attended having travelled from Sussex and can honestly say I felt like I had attended a normal club night. Obviously I’d seen the original comments on the thread, up to the build up of the event and this certainly made me more aware of who was around me. That thread made me pay attention more last night and I’ll be honest I didn’t feel like I was at a BBW event x

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Well I’m not going to lie, I attended having travelled from Sussex and can honestly say I felt like I had attended a normal club night. Obviously I’d seen the original comments on the thread, up to the build up of the event and this certainly made me more aware of who was around me. That thread made me pay attention more last night and I’ll be honest I didn’t feel like I was at a BBW event x"

Are you talking about last night at Chams?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I was the one that commented on the event thread.

My intention was not to body shame in the slightest. I wouldn't want it done to myself so wouldn't do it to someone else.

My "opinion" which I was entitled to share was that there were people putting their names down who were of the svelter nature who weren't coming to appreciate the more voluptuous nature as their profile clearly says straight and only meets black men. The event is being treated as an interracial event when there are already plenty of them!

There were other people who expressed there opinions too about how they feel uncomfortable at an event they once did. Yet my comment has been the only one jumped on!!!"

To be fair snow, yours was the original comment. I don't feel that it was 'jumped' on but as the organiser I felt I had to respond. I was perfectly polite and have had s few personal responses thanking me for it.

No one has said you are not entitled to your opinion but equally you can't expect that opinion to go unchallenged, especially when aired so publically.

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local


"Well I’m not going to lie, I attended having travelled from Sussex and can honestly say I felt like I had attended a normal club night. Obviously I’d seen the original comments on the thread, up to the build up of the event and this certainly made me more aware of who was around me. That thread made me pay attention more last night and I’ll be honest I didn’t feel like I was at a BBW event x"

Well said hun xx

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local


"I was the one that commented on the event thread.

My intention was not to body shame in the slightest. I wouldn't want it done to myself so wouldn't do it to someone else.

My "opinion" which I was entitled to share was that there were people putting their names down who were of the svelter nature who weren't coming to appreciate the more voluptuous nature as their profile clearly says straight and only meets black men. The event is being treated as an interracial event when there are already plenty of them!

There were other people who expressed there opinions too about how they feel uncomfortable at an event they once did. Yet my comment has been the only one jumped on!!!

To be fair snow, yours was the original comment. I don't feel that it was 'jumped' on but as the organiser I felt I had to respond. I was perfectly polite and have had s few personal responses thanking me for it.

No one has said you are not entitled to your opinion but equally you can't expect that opinion to go unchallenged, especially when aired so publically. "

Hun the even you organise is wonderful it’s just a shame some guests just attend for the wrong reasons hun xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So a slim girl attends an event for bigger girls and one bigger girl doesn't like it.

If there was a white guy at a BBC event would I be unhappy?

In short no. I think it would be a bit unusual.

Would I feel he shouldn't be there? No. Its his choice and his choice is absolutely nothing to do with me.

Would I be concerned that he was a better lover than me?

No because I would be way too busy doing my thing to worry about his thing.

I understand how some big beautiful women would be uncomfortable. But that would only be because they forgot who or what they are BBW. So I'm just going to remind those of you who have forgotten.

Your big beautiful women!!!

Cuddly, charming and full of character.

In my most humble opinion. This is a big fuss over a nothing

There ends the matter.

Play nice people.

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"So a slim girl attends an event for bigger girls and one bigger girl doesn't like it.

If there was a white guy at a BBC event would I be unhappy?

In short no. I think it would be a bit unusual.

Would I feel he shouldn't be there? No. Its his choice and his choice is absolutely nothing to do with me.

Would I be concerned that he was a better lover than me?

No because I would be way too busy doing my thing to worry about his thing.

I understand how some big beautiful women would be uncomfortable. But that would only be because they forgot who or what they are BBW. So I'm just going to remind those of you who have forgotten.

Your big beautiful women!!!

Cuddly, charming and full of character.

In my most humble opinion. This is a big fuss over a nothing

There ends the matter.

Play nice people. "

I think if you read it it wasn't just one bigger girl

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Can I ask if any of those who have had issues with comments from guests ever raised it with the staff or me?

This is the first I've ever heard of these problems and I honestly feel like they are being made to discredit the event. The cynic in me wonders if it's to boost interest in events that set entry criteria but I'd like to think I'm wrong on that.

I was much more alert to the size of guests at the club last night and perhaps I was looking in the wrong places but I have to say it's like we were at 2 different clubs. I would say there was a handful of 'slim' people in my opinion.

Like I said in the reply on the guest list thread. We don't have sole use of the club, we never have. I remember attending one before I took over the running of them and saw a man looking lost at the bar. I asked if he knew it was a BBW night, he said no and he didn't really like BBW nights....told he'd shit out then hadn't he!

I really do hope we can move on from all of this. I hadn't planned on commenting further after my reply on the guest list thread but I couldn't let some of these comments go unanswered.

I have no intention of setting entry criteria for the BBW nights. I'm sorry if that disappoints some of you. But I will ask that if you do experience any nastiness you report it to me or to the club or ideally both. There is nothing j can do about something that happened a year ago which is only being bought up now. I'm not saying there's much I can do anyway but I will try.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like. "

Well clubs do it the other way round!

I'm not saying it's right but it happens to us larger ladies all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have found the customers at these events can be far from the normal type of clientele you would normally expect in a club. It has been obvious that they got in on a guest list and were not paid up members who value their membership ! With a lack of manners and etiquette from both males and females. Whilst I accept that a bbw event is just that a club should still cater for its bread and butter members.

I love larger women, my partner is a big woman so you'd think we'd love bbw nights? But we don't like them, for a lot for the reasons you state. We find there often is a real lack of respect by some of the visitors for women, for etiquette and for the facilities. Men who just think they can help themselves and just throw used condoms anywhere. Seen a pair of young girls throwing beer can into dungeon and heckling at the people playing in there. We are often at it till the end and we never see the club in such as state as it is at the end of bbw night. We been to 2 (2nd by accident as we didn't realise, just fancied sunday in the club). I'm really not sure if we'd go again because there is just so much disrespect. Which is a real shame because of course the majority of people there are great. And to be fair there is always a great selection of all shapes and sizes on a normal club night so we don't need bbw night."

I'm exactly the same obviously you guys have met me at the attic so know I'm a big girl but I only ventured once to the BBW night at chams. It was not my cup of tea at all. Guys (and girls) thought they could grab me without permission. Some girl was having bare sex in the hot tub with lots of random guys and I felt so uncomfortable I have never been back.

But as a BBW (hate that term) girl I would have no issue with slimmer ladies being there

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

Well clubs do it the other way round!

I'm not saying it's right but it happens to us larger ladies all the time. "

I’m a big girl too and I’ve never been refused entry anywhere. But I would be horrified if it happened.

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By *oupleofkinkyCouple
over a year ago

local


"Can I ask if any of those who have had issues with comments from guests ever raised it with the staff or me?

This is the first I've ever heard of these problems and I honestly feel like they are being made to discredit the event. The cynic in me wonders if it's to boost interest in events that set entry criteria but I'd like to think I'm wrong on that.

I was much more alert to the size of guests at the club last night and perhaps I was looking in the wrong places but I have to say it's like we were at 2 different clubs. I would say there was a handful of 'slim' people in my opinion.

Like I said in the reply on the guest list thread. We don't have sole use of the club, we never have. I remember attending one before I took over the running of them and saw a man looking lost at the bar. I asked if he knew it was a BBW night, he said no and he didn't really like BBW nights....told he'd shit out then hadn't he!

I really do hope we can move on from all of this. I hadn't planned on commenting further after my reply on the guest list thread but I couldn't let some of these comments go unanswered.

I have no intention of setting entry criteria for the BBW nights. I'm sorry if that disappoints some of you. But I will ask that if you do experience any nastiness you report it to me or to the club or ideally both. There is nothing j can do about something that happened a year ago which is only being bought up now. I'm not saying there's much I can do anyway but I will try. "

I was off alone at one point and Scarlett had an issue at the bus stop! She has just told me and wouldn’t tell me at the event as she knows how I’d react.

However my own body view of myself is

I don’t give a fuck if you don’t like what you see then look the other fucking way, and if you find it funny then good on you but I’m good the way I am ta ( that’s the way I think as I walk around lol)

But your event has helped Scarlett no end xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have found the customers at these events can be far from the normal type of clientele you would normally expect in a club. It has been obvious that they got in on a guest list and were not paid up members who value their membership ! With a lack of manners and etiquette from both males and females. Whilst I accept that a bbw event is just that a club should still cater for its bread and butter members.

I love larger women, my partner is a big woman so you'd think we'd love bbw nights? But we don't like them, for a lot for the reasons you state. We find there often is a real lack of respect by some of the visitors for women, for etiquette and for the facilities. Men who just think they can help themselves and just throw used condoms anywhere. Seen a pair of young girls throwing beer can into dungeon and heckling at the people playing in there. We are often at it till the end and we never see the club in such as state as it is at the end of bbw night. We been to 2 (2nd by accident as we didn't realise, just fancied sunday in the club). I'm really not sure if we'd go again because there is just so much disrespect. Which is a real shame because of course the majority of people there are great. And to be fair there is always a great selection of all shapes and sizes on a normal club night so we don't need bbw night.

I'm exactly the same obviously you guys have met me at the attic so know I'm a big girl but I only ventured once to the BBW night at chams. It was not my cup of tea at all. Guys (and girls) thought they could grab me without permission. Some girl was having bare sex in the hot tub with lots of random guys and I felt so uncomfortable I have never been back.

But as a BBW (hate that term) girl I would have no issue with slimmer ladies being there "

I agree people shouldn't be grabbing anyone without consent. But the bare in the hot tub thing you can find anywhere. I've seen it happen in many clubs

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


" I agree people shouldn't be grabbing anyone without consent. But the bare in the hot tub thing you can find anywhere. I've seen it happen in many clubs "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

Well clubs do it the other way round!

I'm not saying it's right but it happens to us larger ladies all the time.

I’m a big girl too and I’ve never been refused entry anywhere. But I would be horrified if it happened.

"

La boudoir won't except larger women. Iv been told my a couple in a club once that I would be pretty if I was thinner.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Having been contacted by one of the people involved I'd just like to retract my comment about trying to discredit mg event.

At the end of the day there are events for everyone to enjoy and we should all be supporting each other.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

Well clubs do it the other way round!

I'm not saying it's right but it happens to us larger ladies all the time.

I’m a big girl too and I’ve never been refused entry anywhere. But I would be horrified if it happened.

La boudoir won't except larger women. Iv been told my a couple in a club once that I would be pretty if I was thinner. "

My mum tells me that all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some bbw females aren't as comfortable with being fat as they like to tell everyone they are, so they get pissy when the slimmer girls are "on their turf", unfortunately we should all be able to attend an open to all event if we want to, regardless of whether we fit into a category or not and without being made to feel bad about it

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

Well clubs do it the other way round!

I'm not saying it's right but it happens to us larger ladies all the time.

I’m a big girl too and I’ve never been refused entry anywhere. But I would be horrified if it happened.

La boudoir won't except larger women. Iv been told my a couple in a club once that I would be pretty if I was thinner.

My mum tells me that all the time. "

My Mum too.

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By *rank speakerMan
over a year ago

Worcester


"I went to a BBW night at Chams in the past and had no issues but a woman there who is slim said she had some rude comments. We would like to go and admire BBW women but want no stress. I recently saw a thread on here from a lady complaining about slim women at these events. What do people think? Surely all club nights should be inclusive as we are members.

I'm fairly sure that I know the situation you're talking about and I think the rude lady was spoken to by the club staff.

The bbw nights are for larger ladies and their admirers, whoever complained on here about it needs to look at what the night is actually for. Go along, ignore the miserable people and enjoy yourself, you're as entitled to be there as the bbw's. "

I've been to a few of these nights in the past with various lady friends of varying sizes and shapes. I'm not sure at what point a lady graduates from curvy to b.b.w? It's a shame when anyone is negative in any public event and fortunately have never come across it. Follow others advice and ignore them and carry on enjoying whatever positive things happen, It's usually such a friendly atmosphere. ??

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"I went to a BBW night at Chams in the past and had no issues but a woman there who is slim said she had some rude comments. We would like to go and admire BBW women but want no stress. I recently saw a thread on here from a lady complaining about slim women at these events. What do people think? Surely all club nights should be inclusive as we are members.

I'm fairly sure that I know the situation you're talking about and I think the rude lady was spoken to by the club staff.

The bbw nights are for larger ladies and their admirers, whoever complained on here about it needs to look at what the night is actually for. Go along, ignore the miserable people and enjoy yourself, you're as entitled to be there as the bbw's.

I've been to a few of these nights in the past with various lady friends of varying sizes and shapes. I'm not sure at what point a lady graduates from curvy to b.b.w? It's a shame when anyone is negative in any public event and fortunately have never come across it. Follow others advice and ignore them and carry on enjoying whatever positive things happen, It's usually such a friendly atmosphere. ??"

She goes not. She can be big but not curvy, or curvy but not fat.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"So a slim girl attends an event for bigger girls and one bigger girl doesn't like it.

If there was a white guy at a BBC event would I be unhappy?

In short no. I think it would be a bit unusual.

Would I feel he shouldn't be there? No. Its his choice and his choice is absolutely nothing to do with me.

Would I be concerned that he was a better lover than me?

No because I would be way too busy doing my thing to worry about his thing.

I understand how some big beautiful women would be uncomfortable. But that would only be because they forgot who or what they are BBW. So I'm just going to remind those of you who have forgotten.

Your big beautiful women!!!

Cuddly, charming and full of character.

In my most humble opinion. This is a big fuss over a nothing

There ends the matter.

Play nice people. "

White guys do go to events mostly aimed at black men. So do Asian guys.

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By *osmocoupleMan
over a year ago

East Sussex

I am a bbw and would not be bothered at all my slimmer women there. After all you dont have to be a curvier lady to admire us lovelies xx

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Isolated incident by the sound of it in all my years on here first time I have seen a negative comment regarding those nights.

Shocked by the slobbish behaviour though that some one mentioned. Feel sorry for who has to clean up.

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By *otcouple65 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Evie your event is great and attracts some of the nicest friendliest people on the scene and that's why I like BBW night. I am not BBW myself but I admire BBW ladies. Despite being slim I have struggled with my body image in the past. My partner and this scene had helped me enormously with that. I admire any woman who is comfortable in their own skin- slim or otherwise. I think that is the message that this night should be about. I saw a message about slim women only going for the black guys. Did I go for the BBC?well I am exclusively attracted to black guys but on that night I only played with one lady and she was very curvy and absolutely beautiful ( not on Fab unfortunately!) and it was well worth the trip out. So thanks everyone for their comments. We are all entitled to our opinions. I will continue to enjoy this wonderful event in the future and admire the ladies who go there!

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By *ig Beautiful BabesCouple
over a year ago

London

We’d just like to say that we have fun at Evie’s event.

As hosts ourselves it is extremely difficult to keep everyone happy and we try as does Evie, to get any disgruntled guests to speak to us. Party hosts need to support each other not cause trouble at parties. Something we’ve recently experienced ourselves. We have the advantage of having a private venue which is why we can make our bbw event exclusive. Evie doesn’t have this advantage so we all need to cut her a break.

As for mess, it happens everywhere.

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By *ig Beautiful BabesCouple
over a year ago

London

Also we don’t understand why the OP brought up something that happened over a year ago

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By *otcouple65 OP   Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham

I have no idea what event you are all talking about that happened over a year ago????? I am only saying about a recent event I went to where a slim woman told me she had an issue that night. You must all know something I don't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Last bbw event I went to there was a slim woman there and she eat a fair amount of bbw pussy that night. She definitely wasn’t getting any complaints

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By *BW SnowbunnyWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere over the Rainbow

I’ve been rejected from a few private parties and a particular club in London All stated that I am an unsuitable size, one went further to say I was also too old. I’m 51 . Didn’t think I was last it lol.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"I’ve been rejected from a few private parties and a particular club in London All stated that I am an unsuitable size, one went further to say I was also too old. I’m 51 . Didn’t think I was last it lol. "

And we all know the name of that club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve been rejected from a few private parties and a particular club in London All stated that I am an unsuitable size, one went further to say I was also too old. I’m 51 . Didn’t think I was last it lol. "

This is my point, people don't seem to have an issue not letting larger people in but the minute you say it's for larger people everyone gets all bent out shape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We’ve always been attracted to people, personality and if we click, not size.

We once went to a BBW night meeting a lady friend for a FFM play, when we arrived in the bar area we heard one of the hosts say “what the fuk are they doing here?”

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I’ve been rejected from a few private parties and a particular club in London All stated that I am an unsuitable size, one went further to say I was also too old. I’m 51 . Didn’t think I was last it lol.

This is my point, people don't seem to have an issue not letting larger people in but the minute you say it's for larger people everyone gets all bent out shape. "

People do have a problem. Search killing kittens or le boudoir threads on here and you'll see a lot of people saying how they don't approve

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By *BW_and_BeauCouple
over a year ago

Tameside

There’s no need to be rude but as a BBW I’d probably be upset by straight slim women attending but I’d never be rude about it or say anything..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve been rejected from a few private parties and a particular club in London All stated that I am an unsuitable size, one went further to say I was also too old. I’m 51 . Didn’t think I was last it lol.

This is my point, people don't seem to have an issue not letting larger people in but the minute you say it's for larger people everyone gets all bent out shape.

People do have a problem. Search killing kittens or le boudoir threads on here and you'll see a lot of people saying how they don't approve "

Yes some don't, but many do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

Well clubs do it the other way round!

I'm not saying it's right but it happens to us larger ladies all the time.

I’m a big girl too and I’ve never been refused entry anywhere. But I would be horrified if it happened.

La boudoir won't except larger women. Iv been told my a couple in a club once that I would be pretty if I was thinner. "

I'm a larger girl and we are members at le boudoir.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"There’s no need to be rude but as a BBW I’d probably be upset by straight slim women attending but I’d never be rude about it or say anything.."

What is the problem with being straight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I regularly attend a MILF event but I'm not a mother does that mean I can't go anymore...

Clubs should stop have BBW some would class it as fat shaming! As you'd never get slim night.

People just need to stop being arse holes and keep there options to themselves, or not go to clubs.

OR just go to a club and actually play and have some fun!!!!! Not stand in a corner judging people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have found the customers at these events can be far from the normal type of clientele you would normally expect in a club. It has been obvious that they got in on a guest list and were not paid up members who value their membership ! With a lack of manners and etiquette from both males and females. Whilst I accept that a bbw event is just that a club should still cater for its bread and butter members. "
men?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"There’s no need to be rude but as a BBW I’d probably be upset by straight slim women attending but I’d never be rude about it or say anything.."

Upset? What’s there to be upset about?

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"There’s no need to be rude but as a BBW I’d probably be upset by straight slim women attending but I’d never be rude about it or say anything..

What is the problem with being straight?"

Guessing it's cause they aren't there to appreciate the bigger women just play with the men. I could be wrong tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s simple if you don’t like non-bbw women at the bbw event at chams then don’t turn up. Make a new event with your strict entry requirements Lol!!

Mr thinks the bbw events are the best events on the scene (hats off Evie) where Mrs is a little indifferent about them, probably because of the bitchy women who go I.e the comments on the forum that have been going about.

We are members at chams which we have paid for and if we want to go to a bbw event using our paid membership we will

Go regardless if some people don’t like thin/curvy women going!

If you have a problem with anyone on the scene regardless of weight, colour, the way they look I think the problem is you not them.

There is enough people to mingle with at these events just no need for it.

Great event Evie May see us soon but we ain’t a bbw couple but got to keep the Mr happy and let him come one night x

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By *uesdaysfundayCouple
over a year ago

Sandbach

I get what you are saying and we are getting there. But years of bullying about the size of our bodies takes a lot to get over.

BBC events I can see are similar a white guy turns up but you guys strip of and well... You win.

BBW events are a safe place where we can go all out, love our bodies and have them loved. Without having the nagging devils in the backof our minds that have been instilled in us over the years.

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By *BW_and_BeauCouple
over a year ago

Tameside


"There’s no need to be rude but as a BBW I’d probably be upset by straight slim women attending but I’d never be rude about it or say anything..

Upset? What’s there to be upset about? "

Additionally, like some BBWs I’d feel additionally self conscious about my appearance

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By *BW_and_BeauCouple
over a year ago

Tameside

Basically what the above said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is no different to if a non black person goes to an interacial night or if you arent bi but go to a bi night. Just go and enjoy yourself. There are always people who find a way to discriminate

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Disclaimer... I've never been to Chams.

But i have been to BBW Nights at other clubs and to regular club events. There are often a few slim ladies at BBW events, and there are many possible reasons for this. Sometimes they attend because they're into BBWs themselves. Sometimes they are part of a couple where their partner is into BBWs. Sometimes a slim woman accompanies a BBW friend to the party because her friend doesn't want to go alone. And sometimes a slim woman might simply be a club regular and have no preference one way or the other regarding body size of other women.

It's fine, and nobody should body shame the slim women.

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By *lackking 2 whitequeenCouple
over a year ago

home counties

We have found that BBW parties attract more black men than white - this then attracts ‘all white’ couples because they want a black bull for the wife/gf. There are plenty of interracial parties for all sizes. 99% of these slim ladies are NOT there to admire/play with BBWs. There are plenty of parties that don’t let me in because I’m a BBW so give us a break

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"We have found that BBW parties attract more black men than white - this then attracts ‘all white’ couples because they want a black bull for the wife/gf. There are plenty of interracial parties for all sizes. 99% of these slim ladies are NOT there to admire/play with BBWs. There are plenty of parties that don’t let me in because I’m a BBW so give us a break "

So surely the problem is the black men who play with the slim ladies at BBW parties?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have found that BBW parties attract more black men than white - this then attracts ‘all white’ couples because they want a black bull for the wife/gf. There are plenty of interracial parties for all sizes. 99% of these slim ladies are NOT there to admire/play with BBWs. There are plenty of parties that don’t let me in because I’m a BBW so give us a break "

Yes, but logically if that happens then these events attract more black men compared to white than regular nights BECAUSE more black men tend to prefer a large lady to a slimmer one?

Therefore also logically the black men present are likely to prefer fun with the rounder lady over the slim one.

So whilst the slim white ladies and their partners may not be BBW admirers then their presence won't really affect your potential playmate possibilities anyway as the black men present would choose fun with yourself over the slim lady?

So I can't see why that would cause you any issue whatsoever.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"We have found that BBW parties attract more black men than white - this then attracts ‘all white’ couples because they want a black bull for the wife/gf. There are plenty of interracial parties for all sizes. 99% of these slim ladies are NOT there to admire/play with BBWs. There are plenty of parties that don’t let me in because I’m a BBW so give us a break

So surely the problem is the black men who play with the slim ladies at BBW parties?"

Evie do you think this whole issue is a problem? It seems somewhat blown out of proportion.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)

I've been going to these events for many many many years... And never seen it as an issue. Last year I had hit a size 14 and was actually struggling a bit sexually but no harsh words. I just wasn't what many were looking for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw.....

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

trouble most likely, or creating it :)


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw....."
I totally disagree with this.. see my post above. I last year had got my weight right down.. and at BBW bash found that I struggled to get attention as a slimmer girl there. At BBW events I'm Not sure normal rules apply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw.....I totally disagree with this.. see my post above. I last year had got my weight right down.. and at BBW bash found that I struggled to get attention as a slimmer girl there. At BBW events I'm Not sure normal rules apply"

At 5ft 3 you are not tall, just going on our own club experiences xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I went to a BBW night at Chams in the past and had no issues but a woman there who is slim said she had some rude comments. We would like to go and admire BBW women but want no stress. I recently saw a thread on here from a lady complaining about slim women at these events. What do people think? Surely all club nights should be inclusive as we are members. "

Go and admire them for the glories godetias they are

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan
over a year ago

stockport wasteland

Anyone wants to go to a club that is self concuss give me a shout ill go with you and whoever heckles you ill roast and shame them

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan
over a year ago

stockport wasteland

P. S its been a proven fact most guys like some meat but no woman truly struggles in a club unless their shy as hell, being bubbly irrespective of size gets you attention especially off me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honestly banning or restricting who comes to any event is business suicide....

As a host/business owner your main goal is to make a profit.....

So unfortunately if you go to a bbw event, you will see slim women.....

Please don’t let it effect you and enjoy yourself....

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By *edVelveteenCouple
over a year ago

Heaven in the Midlands


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

I’m quite surprised women would feel self conscious at events such as these, where the purpose is surely to celebrate women of a larger size who feel proud and confident? That was my assumption anyways, perhaps I’m wrong ...

Maybe I didn’t word it well. What I meant is that some bigger girls seek out these events as they feel uncomfortable at others. If then the BBW nights are still full of slim/thin ladies then some don’t like it. Comparison is a big thing for some people I think.

"

I would feel self conscious in this situation. But since swinging I've realised i am some people's cup of tea. And from all your comments i just need to remember, if I'm ever in this club situation, that we BBWs are there to be admired.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw....."

With respect I think you are talking about rich men in the northern hemisphere.

Those rich men in the northern hemisphere may not actually want items/women they find attractive but want those items/women that reinforce their status. Hence all those luxury items whose worth is based not upon attraction but exclusiveness.

In the northern hemisphere tall slim women are seen as a status symbol, and that is different from being attracted to them for their innate sexiness.

This ties in to the debate about having standards, where people's desires are tied to perceptions of status rather than sexiness or attraction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw....."

I'd have to disagree with this to a point (and my OH whilst she is fairly slim out-shortarses you! ) as at BBW events the men who attend do so generally because they particularly love BBWs.

If I went to a specific BBC event would I expect to play much? No, because the ladies that do attend tend to prefer black gentlemen and I'm white? But I don't go to those events anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Likewise men who attend BBW events, unlike these rich and powerful people you allude to, go because they're fans of BBWs so I'd imagine like women at BBC events would turn down slim ladies to play with BBWs all night long? The only man who may prefer the more slender ladies would be a bloke who had mistakenly wandered in on the wrong night, who would be in a minority anyway?

So I really can't understand why any BBWs should give a toss about slim ladies attending as on these nights they're the most desired ladies in there?

B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw.....

With respect I think you are talking about rich men in the northern hemisphere.

Those rich men in the northern hemisphere may not actually want items/women they find attractive but want those items/women that reinforce their status. Hence all those luxury items whose worth is based not upon attraction but exclusiveness.

In the northern hemisphere tall slim women are seen as a status symbol, and that is different from being attracted to them for their innate sexiness.

This ties in to the debate about having standards, where people's desires are tied to perceptions of status rather than sexiness or attraction.

"

I have lived in China, Korea , Thailand, Japan Vietnam, Sweden, London, Paris, Mexico City , and NYC.....

I have yet to see any rich or famous person in the media without someone beautiful.....

Now the only exceptions I have seen the standard of beauty change is in some African countries and the pacific islands....

But the universal standard of beauty..... symmetrical face , with high cheekbones still stand in 99.9% of the world.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw.....

With respect I think you are talking about rich men in the northern hemisphere.

Those rich men in the northern hemisphere may not actually want items/women they find attractive but want those items/women that reinforce their status. Hence all those luxury items whose worth is based not upon attraction but exclusiveness.

In the northern hemisphere tall slim women are seen as a status symbol, and that is different from being attracted to them for their innate sexiness.

This ties in to the debate about having standards, where people's desires are tied to perceptions of status rather than sexiness or attraction.

I have lived in China, Korea , Thailand, Japan Vietnam, Sweden, London, Paris, Mexico City , and NYC.....

I have yet to see any rich or famous person in the media without someone beautiful.....

Now the only exceptions I have seen the standard of beauty change is in some African countries and the pacific islands....

But the universal standard of beauty..... symmetrical face , with high cheekbones still stand in 99.9% of the world..... "

This will have more of an element of truth to it as facial symmetry has been well documented as appealing to more people. Though in the case of a BBW, they may possess higher cheekbones and have facial symmetry, so as such it wouldn't really affect the ones for whom it applied?

B

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw.....

With respect I think you are talking about rich men in the northern hemisphere.

Those rich men in the northern hemisphere may not actually want items/women they find attractive but want those items/women that reinforce their status. Hence all those luxury items whose worth is based not upon attraction but exclusiveness.

In the northern hemisphere tall slim women are seen as a status symbol, and that is different from being attracted to them for their innate sexiness.

This ties in to the debate about having standards, where people's desires are tied to perceptions of status rather than sexiness or attraction.

I have lived in China, Korea , Thailand, Japan Vietnam, Sweden, London, Paris, Mexico City , and NYC.....

I have yet to see any rich or famous person in the media without someone beautiful.....

Now the only exceptions I have seen the standard of beauty change is in some African countries and the pacific islands....

But the universal standard of beauty..... symmetrical face , with high cheekbones still stand in 99.9% of the world..... "

What about wayne Rooney?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw.....

With respect I think you are talking about rich men in the northern hemisphere.

Those rich men in the northern hemisphere may not actually want items/women they find attractive but want those items/women that reinforce their status. Hence all those luxury items whose worth is based not upon attraction but exclusiveness.

In the northern hemisphere tall slim women are seen as a status symbol, and that is different from being attracted to them for their innate sexiness.

This ties in to the debate about having standards, where people's desires are tied to perceptions of status rather than sexiness or attraction.

I have lived in China, Korea , Thailand, Japan Vietnam, Sweden, London, Paris, Mexico City , and NYC.....

I have yet to see any rich or famous person in the media without someone beautiful.....

Now the only exceptions I have seen the standard of beauty change is in some African countries and the pacific islands....

But the universal standard of beauty..... symmetrical face , with high cheekbones still stand in 99.9% of the world.....

This will have more of an element of truth to it as facial symmetry has been well documented as appealing to more people. Though in the case of a BBW, they may possess higher cheekbones and have facial symmetry, so as such it wouldn't really affect the ones for whom it applied?

B"

100% ......

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By *he-ProfessorMan
over a year ago

cheltenham

Most BBW nights are an extension to a normal club night not instead of so there are bound to be mixed groups as the normal clientele are likely to still attend.

I really don't get why there is such an issue here, surely everyone will still play with those they are attracted to & not have their heads turned by the "alternative"?

I go to BBW nights as I appreciate curves, I go to other club nights as I also enjoy those.

At either I'm going to be drawn by the ladies I find sexiest, that is usually those with pretty eyes & enchanting smiles.

Sexiness is more about attitude than dress sizes surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I went to a BBW night at Chams in the past and had no issues but a woman there who is slim said she had some rude comments. We would like to go and admire BBW women but want no stress. I recently saw a thread on here from a lady complaining about slim women at these events. What do people think? Surely all club nights should be inclusive as we are members. "

I was there and heard the conversation too. Plus another lady who said that a few guys had said she was too big for the event

I couldn't care less the shape and size of those who attend these events, however I do object those feel the need to comment on others

Absolutely no need for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Had a bad experience at a bi night in one club. Openly advertised as bi night but because chris was sucking another cock this offended one couple. Not been since "

You dont get that problem at the Chameleons bi nights!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would attend any club night.

I consider myself a BBW, and would go to a BBW night, but not those exclusively.

I wouldn’t give a toss if slim women were there. I wouldn’t feel intimidated at all. At a BBW event I would be surrounded by men who particularly like my body shape..... therefore wouldn’t that make me, and the other women like me, the stars of the show ?????

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

In many years of attending both regular and BBW nights, I'm pretty sure that the BBWs get more appreciation and offers to play than slim women at BBW events. They do, after all, tend to attract those interested in BBW and curvy women.

Or current definition of what is desirable is quite modern and arbitrary. 300 years ago fat, pale people were considered more attractive because slim, tanned people obviously worked outside in manual labour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw....."

You’re totally wrong. At a specific BBW event, the majority of men attending would be there for that reason, because they love Big Beautiful Women.

They would therefore NOT prefer to play with the tall slim girl that you refer to.

There are lots of men out there who actively look for bigger and more curvaceous women.

Surely it’s about the whole package anyway? A face, a smile, sparkly eyes, a naughty laugh, a sexy clever funny personality ? Some tall, slim women have faces like a bag of spanners, as do some short, fat girls !!!!

I agree that society as a whole might revere the typical model look, but believe me, I am the queen at a BBW event !!!!!

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By *he-ProfessorMan
over a year ago

cheltenham


"Wow, great thread

Here are the facts:-

The majority of men are attracted to slim, tall women, it’s a fact and just look at nearly every rich or powerful man in the world, they have their pick of ladies and generally pick tall, slim ladies.

The reality is for a slim tall girl attending a BBW night is that the MAJORITY of men will want to play with her rather than a BBW, hence many BBW’s not liking slim tall girls at BBW events, that is what this whole thread boils down to.

I’m a short arse btw.....

You’re totally wrong. At a specific BBW event, the majority of men attending would be there for that reason, because they love Big Beautiful Women.

They would therefore NOT prefer to play with the tall slim girl that you refer to.

There are lots of men out there who actively look for bigger and more curvaceous women.

Surely it’s about the whole package anyway? A face, a smile, sparkly eyes, a naughty laugh, a sexy clever funny personality ? Some tall, slim women have faces like a bag of spanners, as do some short, fat girls !!!!

I agree that society as a whole might revere the typical model look, but believe me, I am the queen at a BBW event !!!!!

"

Yes..... what this beautiful lady said

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By *iss LovelyWoman
over a year ago

Here and There


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like.

I’m quite surprised women would feel self conscious at events such as these, where the purpose is surely to celebrate women of a larger size who feel proud and confident? That was my assumption anyways, perhaps I’m wrong ...

Maybe I didn’t word it well. What I meant is that some bigger girls seek out these events as they feel uncomfortable at others. If then the BBW nights are still full of slim/thin ladies then some don’t like it. Comparison is a big thing for some people I think.

I would feel self conscious in this situation. But since swinging I've realised i am some people's cup of tea. And from all your comments i just need to remember, if I'm ever in this club situation, that we BBWs are there to be admired. "

I’m a big girl, I’m tall and very broad and curvy. I’ve been going to parties for just over a year and I’ve learned that I’m a bit like marmite and men seem to either be really into me or not at all. But I’ve also realised that I don’t fancy everyone that I see either. In fact quite the opposite. So it’s absolutely ok if not everyone fancies me and whoever else is there makes no difference to that. No point feeling self conscious, just to do your thing and don’t give who else is there a second thought, it really will make no difference. Everyone in a club is there to be admired regardless of how they look, there’s someone for everyone.

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By *BW_and_BeauCouple
over a year ago

Tameside

My objections are not really so much about the skinny woman and more about me. As a BBW you go your whole life being compared to slim people and as a newbie swinger (or at least someone who’s had a decade of weight gain since the last visit) I would be mentally comparing myself because I’m new and insecure. I wouldn’t, however suggest that a slim woman shouldn’t be there! That’s just rudeness

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By *iguyandbbwCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"I have found the customers at these events can be far from the normal type of clientele you would normally expect in a club. It has been obvious that they got in on a guest list and were not paid up members who value their membership ! With a lack of manners and etiquette from both males and females. Whilst I accept that a bbw event is just that a club should still cater for its bread and butter members.

I love larger women, my partner is a big woman so you'd think we'd love bbw nights? But we don't like them, for a lot for the reasons you state. We find there often is a real lack of respect by some of the visitors for women, for etiquette and for the facilities. Men who just think they can help themselves and just throw used condoms anywhere. Seen a pair of young girls throwing beer can into dungeon and heckling at the people playing in there. We are often at it till the end and we never see the club in such as state as it is at the end of bbw night. We been to 2 (2nd by accident as we didn't realise, just fancied sunday in the club). I'm really not sure if we'd go again because there is just so much disrespect. Which is a real shame because of course the majority of people there are great. And to be fair there is always a great selection of all shapes and sizes on a normal club night so we don't need bbw night."

We saw the same as you, Rosie wanted to go to the bbw event to see what it was like as she's a bbw, we will never go again, told Mark and zoe behind the bar, if that had been our first experience of the club we would never come back, we was absolutely disgusted by the level of disrespect of people and the club, rudeness off people with their actions and manners,

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By *edVelveteenCouple
over a year ago

Heaven in the Midlands


"My objections are not really so much about the skinny woman and more about me. As a BBW you go your whole life being compared to slim people and as a newbie swinger (or at least someone who’s had a decade of weight gain since the last visit) I would be mentally comparing myself because I’m new and insecure. I wouldn’t, however suggest that a slim woman shouldn’t be there! That’s just rudeness "

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By *st 1972Man
over a year ago

Kingswinford


"I know some bigger girls who are self conscious dressing down if there are slim women at a party, which is why they go to the BBW events. But you can’t impose a size/weight criteria can you? How would that work?! ‘Sorry you’re too slim, you can’t come in’.

People have to be more realistic. People can go to whichever party they like. "

Very true, you can't descriminate against any body shape it's just not acceptable, if you don't fancy playing with someone don't but there's no need to be rude

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

What's next? Black guys being made to feel uncomfortable on standard club nights because the white guys feel intimidated by tall, well built, well hung black guys? Or black guys feeling uncomfortable when white guys go to night's aimed at black guys because they feel intimidated by men with beer bellies and average cocks?!

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"What's next? Black guys being made to feel uncomfortable on standard club nights because the white guys feel intimidated by tall, well built, well hung black guys? Or black guys feeling uncomfortable when white guys go to night's aimed at black guys because they feel intimidated by men with beer bellies and average cocks?!"

Ehm... The former may have already happened. Although I have met black men with beer bellies and we'll-built white men.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Do big beautiful men feel as threatened by average weight guys at club nights for big beautiful men?

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton


"Do big beautiful men feel as threatened by average weight guys at club nights for big beautiful men?"

No such club night exists except in the gay scene for "bears"

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By *rK MrsJCouple
over a year ago

Kidderminster


"Thanks for comments I agree club nights should be all inclusive whatever label is put on them and people should be respectful regardless of sexuality, age or size. Will give it a go and hopefully will be a good night."

We found it very cliquey the one time we went and some people were rude so we haven't been to one since.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Do big beautiful men feel as threatened by average weight guys at club nights for big beautiful men?

No such club night exists except in the gay scene for "bears" "

I wonder why not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quest does BBW and greedy girls together so it attracts different size girls. The comment you received... yep! Been there. Just ignore; the majority of club goers are lovely people.

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By *sRedbbwWoman
over a year ago

Amwythig

Must have been walking round with my eyes closed, I saw a couple of slim women but didn't see any abuse of any kind or perhaps I chose to ignore it because I was having fun

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"We have found that BBW parties attract more black men than white - this then attracts ‘all white’ couples because they want a black bull for the wife/gf. There are plenty of interracial parties for all sizes. 99% of these slim ladies are NOT there to admire/play with BBWs. There are plenty of parties that don’t let me in because I’m a BBW so give us a break

So surely the problem is the black men who play with the slim ladies at BBW parties?

Evie do you think this whole issue is a problem? It seems somewhat blown out of proportion. "

Honestly....no, not at all. I'm the god knows how many years I have been arranging these nights I have never restricted who can attend....not by size, gender, sexuality etc and I never will. They have and remain very popular and great fun.

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