FabSwingers.com forum: Jaydees

By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a

Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence

If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license

We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license

We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law

Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused

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By *anielpiercedMan
over a year ago

by the seaside

Hope you get it all sorted, bloody council.

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By *aucy tiggerWoman
over a year ago

Back where I belong

Fingers crossed you get the appropriate licence soon xx

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By *hatterley64Couple
over a year ago

Hertford

Hope it doesn’t take too long, Jaydees is our ‘go to’ club!

Any idea of the timescales involved in obtaining such a licence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmmmm

"A sexual entertainment venue is defined as “any premises at which relevant entertainment is provided before a live audience for the financial gain of the organiser or the entertainer.”

Not sure why this is required...

Maybe remove pole and stop playing porn?

And a friendly solicitor?

Obviously if the 'licence' isn't granted.

Good luck ....

PS wonder if VA have one too as they are in the same catchment area...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure about VA. They're in the neighbouring council area of Central Bedfordshire and they may interpret the regulations differently.

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By *exy Black JenWoman
over a year ago

London/Eastbourne weekends

Gosh!.. that's disappointing to hear. Sadly l never attended the club, but always heard good things about it...especially that people local to the area supported it really well. It's always disappointing when small intimate clubs have to close, as our choice will be large commercial ones....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Btw the full regulations for Bedfordshire can be seen by googling

"sexual entertainment license bedford"

I know a club owner who deliberately has not put video screens and a pole in his club to avoid the above licence.

You can buy quite a lot of solicitor time for the annual licence cost. (£4300 PA)

It appears that Video in clubs = above licence needed.

Without the above things, you could certainly argue (with certainty) that you are NOT providing entertainment under the act.

I would be inclined to arrange an informal meeting with the Council at the club and discuss what would need to be removed to comply with the act...

Anyway, good luck with whichever route you take.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not sure about VA. They're in the neighbouring council area of Central Bedfordshire and they may interpret the regulations differently."

They do yes.... Bedfordshire have added a clause regarding 'booths' over the other Councils I have perused... The regs quote items considered entertainment... (poles, lapdancing, topless bars etc)... Bedford added one at the end.

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By *ettyboop61Woman
over a year ago

St Neots

bloody councils just don't want people to have fun.....be back to house parties and ads in the local fee ads

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

Hopefully all sorted soon as I like going there for the Friday daytime sessions

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By *oolandsexyCouple
over a year ago

kings lynn

bloody councils just don't want people to have fun.....be back to house parties and ads in the local fee ads

Would renting the rooms out in an air B and B style for private meets work as an interim measure. Of course offering the hottub facilities to residents ??

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

We were forced to get this licence and it took us over a year to get it through, eventually getting the seal of approval in October last year. The guidance is quite strict and is more than tv screens and poles!!!

ALL clubs will eventually need to get this licence and I did put it out there a while back warning clubs that councils will start rolling this out. At the moment it is a recommendation by government for councils to enforce this licence, but it will become compulsory eventually.

It's a pain in the ass but actually it sorts the wheat from the chaff. The clubs who run under the radar and get away with murder will be shut down. So if you can get this through, it will set you aside. For those who are saying fight it though solicitors, you can fight it for now, but you are just delaying your re-opening and delaying the inevitable when it becomes compulsory. I have no problem with clubs being regulated..bring it on!

If you want any help, just PM me as it was a MURDEROUS process and I would be happy to help if it makes things easier for you

Vicky xxx

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Good luck in getting this license sorted out, Jaydees is a great, really well run club.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

Maybe there's something else you could do with the beautiful grounds in the meantime, like a naturist area with camping or something.

I do hope it gets sorted out as quickly and easily as possible.

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

Cornwall council so I've been told won't approve any clubs in Cornwall at all. It's rubbish and means we have no club scene round here. Hopefully your council approve yours

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Cornwall council so I've been told won't approve any clubs in Cornwall at all. It's rubbish and means we have no club scene round here. Hopefully your council approve yours"

There's loads of councils that won't approve a licence. Our neighbouring council in Liverpool won't approve a club (we've tried), neither will the other surrounding councils. This is why you find a cluster of clubs in certain areas as they have more 'sympathetic' councils. It's ridiculous!

Liverpool are fine with money laundering pole dancing and lap dancing bars but not a legit swinging clubs for consenting adults!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess its down to the legal definition of 'Sexual Entertainment'...

The things quoted in the regs are certainly included in some/most clubs and its not an exhaustive list.

It would, probaby, need a court case to see if 'having sex in a club', as we would know it, could be defined as 'entertainment' under this act/reg....

Alternatively, roll over and take it... ie pay the 'sex tax' and dont bother fighting it as its a commercial issue at the end of the day and maybe not worth the stress/aggro.... Clearly this is a different issue to club safety, music licensing, tax, insurance etc

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

There's more to it. I'm not prepared to disclose publicly but if clubs want to chat to me directly about it, then I'm happy to do so

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By *eptunetwoCouple
over a year ago

WARWICK

Gutted by this news. We hope you find a swift way of getting the licence or a nice way around it, we'll keep our fingers crossed....

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By *oolandsexyCouple
over a year ago

kings lynn

"There's more to it. I'm not prepared to disclose publicly but if clubs want to chat to me directly about it, then I'm happy to do so

xx"

Just thinking as there are a lot of independent clubs out there perhaps regarding planning licenses etc you should work together?

Perhaps set up a joint organisation ....safety in numbers as they say!

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"There's more to it. I'm not prepared to disclose publicly but if clubs want to chat to me directly about it, then I'm happy to do so

Just thinking as there are a lot of independent clubs out there perhaps regarding planning licenses etc you should work together?

Perhaps set up a joint organisation ....safety in numbers as they say! "

I am always working with other clubs on all sorts of stuff, so I am happy for clubs to chat to me if and when the licence is enforced in their area

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

"Cornwall council so I've been told won't approve any clubs in Cornwall at all. It's rubbish and means we have no club scene round here. Hopefully your council approve yours

Liverpool are fine with money laundering pole dancing and lap dancing bars but not a legit swinging clubs for consenting adults!

It's such a shame because down in Cornwall it's pretty much cut off from everywhere. We have no choice but to travel and stay over night whenever we want to go to a club!

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable

Bedfordshire council sucks!!!!

Not in the good way.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"We were forced to get this licence and it took us over a year to get it through, eventually getting the seal of approval in October last year. The guidance is quite strict and is more than tv screens and poles!!!

If you want any help, just PM me as it was a MURDEROUS process and I would be happy to help if it makes things easier for you

Vicky xxx

Thanks for the cool head Vicky as this is our local club and I can't wait for this to by sorted out asap!

We will be up in townhouse this September.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Jaydees needs to stay open, a naturist option seems a great better than nothing option.

Good luck to John and Tracey.

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By *mm and HerCouple
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

Very sorry to hear this, and hope you manage to get it sorted.

And kudos to Townhouse for being the first club (as always) to reach out and offer help. Many of us recognise this and we're planning to visit on the basis of your positivity.

(Ok, the rumour of a very large gin bar may also have played a part

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Very sorry to hear this, and hope you manage to get it sorted.

And kudos to Townhouse for being the first club (as always) to reach out and offer help. Many of us recognise this and we're planning to visit on the basis of your positivity.

(Ok, the rumour of a very large gin bar may also have played a part

) "

Oh it's not a rumour!! Haha 56 guns, all tested for quality by myself before making it to our bar! Lol

You are very welcome to visit anytime but hopefully your local club won't be closed for long!!!! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry to hear, I've always been curious about this club. All the best getting it sorted

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

Can never really understand what local councils are up to with this licence malarky specifically in relation to judging what adults get up to in basically a private nightclub. (Not specifically Jaydees, all clubs).

Probably all very arguable legally but the cost and effort of doing so almost certainly outweighs getting the licence.

We get the politicians, including local politicians, we vote for unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would suggest that all commercial clubs will be facing the requirement of a sex entertainment license.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

"I would suggest that all commercial clubs will be facing the requirement of a sex entertainment license. "

So if a swingers club doesn’t have a pole or video screens, what technically makes it a swingers club rather than a nightclub? (Yes some nightclubs have poles).

Beds? Nightclubs can have chill out couches for example.

Philosophical question really

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"I would suggest that all commercial clubs will be facing the requirement of a sex entertainment license.

So if a swingers club doesn’t have a pole or video screens, what technically makes it a swingers club rather than a nightclub? (Yes some nightclubs have poles).

Beds? Nightclubs can have chill out couches for example.

Philosophical question really "

Like I've said above, there's actually a lot more to the licence than screens and poles. Unfortunately, if the council decide that they want to enforce the licence on swingers clubs, they can and will. What they will do though is tailor the licence to be more applicable to our needs rather than those of a lap dancing club which is completely different xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about a jds on tour till they get the pub back up and running

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

What we can’t work out is why they had to close us down. Didn’t give us a lot of time to cancel everyone. We will also have to send people their money back for cottage rooms etc. Thank you for all your concerns Townhouse and everyone else. We have gone away for a couple of days to get over the shock so we will speak to everyone soon x. We have also had other clubs messaging too with help, we really appreciate it and it’s nice to know that everyone cares

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By *aul and belindaMan
over a year ago

purley

Hi i have been to your club once and i thought it was wonderfull best of luck

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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago

Torridge area of Devon

Sex establishment licences

Changes in legislation introduced a new category of sex establishment known as a 'sexual entertainment venue' (SEV).

This gives us powers to control the number and location of lap dancing clubs and similar venues.

A sexual entertainment venue is any premises at which ‘relevant entertainment’ is provided before a live audience for the financial gain of the organiser or entertainer.

‘Relevant entertainment’ is described as "any live performance or live display of nudity which is of such a nature that, ignoring financial gain, it must reasonably be assumed to be provided solely or principally for the purpose of sexually stimulating any member of an audience (whether by verbal or other means)".

An audience can consist of just one person.

Sexual entertainment venues (SEVss) are those that provide forms of entertainment such as:

lap dancing

pole dancing

table dancing

strip shows

peep shows

live sex shows

Sex shops and sex cinemas are not SEV’s, but are separately defined under the 1982 Act and require their own licence.

Premises that only provide relevant entertainment on an infrequent basis (defined by the 1982 Act as less than 1 per month) and premises exempted by the Secretary of State are also not included.

Fees

Sex shop or cinema

New licence: £659.70

Renewal (annual) licence: £457.30

Transfer or variation licence: £457.30

Sexual entertainment venue

New licence: £1,537.30. Checklist of what needs submitting.

Renewal (annual): £1,101.10. checklist of what needs submitting.

Transfer or variation: £1,101.10. Checklist for transfer or variation.

How to apply

You can apply online for a sex establishment licence.

With your application you must:

pay the appropriate fee

place an advertisement in the local paper within 7 days of the application

place a notice on the site of premises for not less than 21 days from day following the day on which it was given to the licensing authority on blue paper (must be able to be seen conveniently by members of the public)

send a copy of the application to police

provide a photograph of each individual applicant

provide a criminal conviction certificate or record

provide a plan of the premises (at scale 1:100)

Tacit consent

Tacit consent does not apply for this licence. If you have not heard from us within a reasonable period, please email the licensing team - licensing@centralbedfordshire.gov.uk.

Appeals and redress

Rights of appeal following determination of application

The following persons may, at any time before the expiration of the period of 21 days beginning with the date on the which the individual is notified of the Councils decisions, appeal to a Magistrate's Court:

an applicant for the grant, renewal or transfer of a licence whose application was refused

an applicant for the variation of the terms, conditions or restrictions on or subject to which any such licence is held whose application is refused

a holder of any such licence who is aggrieved by any term, condition or restriction on or subject to which the licence is held

a holder of any such licence whose licence is revoked

Specific mandatory grounds for refusal of a licence are set out in the Act

A licence cannot be granted:

to anyone under 18 years of age

to someone who has held a licence that was revoked in the last 12 months (from the date of revocation)

to someone who has been refused a new or renewal of licence within the last 12 months (from the date of making the application

to an individual who is not resident in the United Kingdom or has not been resident for six months prior to the making of an application

to a company not incorporated in the United Kingdom

About the premises

Licences will not be granted for schools, colleges, nurseries or any other premises substantially used by children under 18 years of age

They not be granted in these areas:

areas frequented by children and families

residential areas

parks or other recreational areas used by children under 16 years

areas frequented by vulnerable adults

areas associated with family leisure and retail

community buildings

Churches or other places of religious worship

buildings or locations where leisure activities are undertaken

sites of historical or heritage value

About our area

Given the characteristics of Central Bedfordshire most areas will not be suitable.

Areas where it is likely a licence will be granted are industrial areas or adjacent to main transit routes.

There is no right of appeal against a decision based on this element of the policy.

Venues

You can view a register of sex establishment licences (PDF 2.4KB) issued in Central Bedfordshire.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What we can’t work out is why they had to close us down. Didn’t give us a lot of time to cancel everyone. We will also have to send people their money back for cottage rooms etc. Thank you for all your concerns Townhouse and everyone else. We have gone away for a couple of days to get over the shock so we will speak to everyone soon x. We have also had other clubs messaging too with help, we really appreciate it and it’s nice to know that everyone cares

Councils are a strange brew at the best of times. We have never been to your club but have heard good things about it. We hope you find a way through this situation. Remember though that the council tends to get what the council wants and upsetting them is never a good idea! All the best x

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

I don't know why they have issued an immediate notice to close. We continued to trade whilst we were going through the arduous process. Did they tell you why you had to close immediately? It seems a very severe thing to do if I'm honest

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By *picyminxWoman
over a year ago

Huntingdon

I thought it was a necessity to have a sexual entertainments license it was the first thing I was told I would need to get if I wanted to try opening any swingers/adult venue and that was 5 years ago. It doesnt matter about the poles or video screenings, theres a whole lot more than goes into than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jaydees is located in the Bedford Borough Council area, so anyone interested in the licensing process Jaydees will have to go through needs to refer to Bedford's website.

As has been said, the policy includes a list of venues which would need a SEV licence. It includes all the places you might expect but doesn't specifically mention swinging clubs. It does though have a get out clause, which says the list is not exhaustive and it's what takes place at the venue which is more important rather than what it's called. In other words, it's down to their discretion what they require to be licensed.

At £4.3k per annum, it's a nice little earner for a cash strapped council and a neat way for a council licensing officer to justify their role and cover part of their salary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought it was a necessity to have a sexual entertainments license it was the first thing I was told I would need to get if I wanted to try opening any swingers/adult venue and that was 5 years ago. It doesnt matter about the poles or video screenings, theres a whole lot more than goes into than that. "

If you look at the above you can see the licence is geared towards places like lapdancing venues etc... although there is a general "get out" clause.

The blindingly obvious thing to do is to ask why an entertainment licence is needed and which things (if any) tip the ballance. Then review.

Why pay for a licence you may not actually need?.

However, this equates to about £80 per week so may be worth just taking the hit.

Hope it gets sorted soon because its a great club

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By *nnocentimesMan
over a year ago

over there by that tree

I have dealings with the council (Beds) on almost a daily basis, the ageing Lib Dem heavy population are easily offended and have plenty of time to complain.... wouldn’t be surprised if this was pushed up the chain by the parish council.

The only thing I would say is just play their games and it will get sorted a lot quicker than trying to fight it -

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By *esires of HertsCouple
over a year ago

Herts and London Borders

As they closed immediately it would imply that a licence is most definitely needed..legal advice would probably have been sought in the first instance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not been for a few year.but always a great night hope you reopen soon .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great to see people standing together

If you want any help, just PM me as it was a MURDEROUS process and I would be happy to help if it makes things easier for you

Vicky xxx

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

Just bumping this up to let people know we are closed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So sad to see this

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By *ink Panther 123Man
over a year ago

Colnbrook

Hope you get it sorted out ASAP! I have attended this club a few times now and love the friendliness of the people that run it and work there .

Good Luck Guys

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bump

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By *entle.ManMan
over a year ago

Slough

Very sorry to hear this. I hope you manage to sort it out quickly. It must be so stressful for you.

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By * and PCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a

Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence

If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license

We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license

We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law

Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused "

Just another bump to let those know who may not have seen yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is such a shame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody ridiculous. I hope it gets sorted. Best club around

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

Hope you get things sorted soon; you guys are great xx

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By *RS79Man
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Very sad to see this news. Lomgntone since I attended due to changes in life but always a good venue.

There was a guy in the forum recently on this subject who may be able to help but cant find the thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a thought, while the clubs closed why don’t you have a ‘volunteer day’. I’m sure there must be some decorating, painting or maintenance that needs doing? Maybe celebrate the end of the day with a quiet drink in the hot tub?

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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

We have been to Jaydees in the past and did like it.

Just a thought, if Jaydees did not charge for entrance would it still have to get all the licences ?

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By *eyleighCouple
over a year ago

bishop stortford

We have used this club several times over the last few years and always left wanting to return so sad to hear of your troubles but I'm sure with a slice of determination and help from others you will open again in the near future. Best of luck.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Really sad to hear. I’m a member but don’t visit enough. Always had a great welcome from the team and other members, my favourite club by a long way.

Hope you get it sorted soon.

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By *reams_unitedCouple
over a year ago

milton keynes

This action by Bedford Borough Council seems to be an old fashioned witch hunt. Your damned either way. Remember the old fashioned ducking stool, if you drown your innocent and if you don’t then your burnt at the stake as a witch. No win scenario!

The application fee of £4300 circ. is NON refundable??? Straight away the hairs on your neck go up, if you read Bedford Boroughs minutes of meetings you will most likely get a feeling of the probability of this licence getting accepted being fairly low without a whole lot of stress, time and additional money being thrown at it. The non refundable issue is also a scary thought, especially with the whole lot of negativity from the licensing team, really would have thought they should be helpful in these matters. I agree time should be given to put “JDs house” in order and they should be allowed to trade until a final decision has been made, or JDs says no thank you and closes the doors themselves. I think all concerned would be happy to bite the bullet and pay the extortionate fee (3 times what Central Beds charges as a next door council). If it was a formality. Poor JDs provides such a safe and secure environment for all of us in the lifestyle, catering for the minority groups and trends and communities that the main stream don’t want.

Since opening their doors with full planning permission as a legit swingers club they have kept a thriving business that has so many positives and fantastic reviews as well as satisfying all other official departments such as Environment Health, Fire and Safety, Police etc. happy, it’s a shame that the powers to be have told licensing to enforce this SEV licence, but as said.. no issues in paying their “put you off” extortionate fee, if all the above are happy that the club is being run safely that they are still allowed to trade whilst going through this process which others have said can take a year to complete.

Above not being fair and putting a huge amount of unneeded stress on any company that has to immediately close its doors, doesn’t mean the bills don’t stop coming in, seems almost illegal. I could understand if there was a risk to life. I think the BBC (That’s Bedford Borough Council). Not the BBC we have come to know.. hmmmm

should have transparency with their policy and procedures for enforcing this SEV, there seems to be so many councils invoking these in their own formats, with different conditions, especially the immediate closure one. If everyone sung from the same central government song sheet it would be so much better. This was the same when personal licences first came out. The licensing departments each had their own way of doing things!

Rant over.... #supportJDs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They would soon moan if everyone turned to dogging because there’s no where safe to play. One massive car park sexathon to show support lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope guys get this sorted and wish you all in the world.

It seem a little odd the way they have implemented things and I hope there is a way that you can challenge the closure decision whilst you get sorted.

Either way fingers crossed for you all and best of luck.

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By *ertscpl1 2000Couple
over a year ago

WELWYN GARDEN CITY

Too echo the above sentiments we really hope you can find a way around this..we would hate too have possibly been the last couple too visit your great club..speaking too another club owner in bedfordshire it seems there maybe.. but probably not as things are set up at present..

T&L x

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

I imagine place like BGHS or Silverlea don’t require this sex club licence? Because it’s a spa?

Couldn’t Jaydees be a Spa?

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By *nd69Couple
over a year ago

hull

"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a

Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence

If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license

We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license

We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law

Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused

Just another bump to let those know who may not have seen yet

Isn't a sev a club that you have to pay for sev e.g. a lap dancing club. Swingers clubs are normally private members clubs and if you're not there for sexual entertainment as such as it's private members doing what they want

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By *jEuphoriaCouple
over a year ago

north kent

"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a

Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence

If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license

We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license

We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law

Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused "

Eureka in Kent, had to get rid of the pole and videos.

It’s ridiculous,

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By *jEuphoriaCouple
over a year ago

north kent

"I imagine place like BGHS or Silverlea don’t require this sex club licence? Because it’s a spa?

Couldn’t Jaydees be a Spa? "

. Sounds like a good idea.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"A very sad day for the club .... the Bedfordshire Council have decided that we need a

Sexual Entertainment Licence, and have stopped us operating until such time that we have the appropriate licence

If we continue operating we would be faced with fines of up to £20,000 and the chance of never ever getting a license

We have decided to take the step to close the club until we are in possession of such license

We have been operating for 15 years and want to stay within the law

Please watch this space, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused

Just another bump to let those know who may not have seen yet

no there's much more to it than that xx

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By *reams_unitedCouple
over a year ago

milton keynes

Let’s hope that common sense prevails and the licence is applied for, accepted,, fee paid (through gritted teeth) and JDs doors are once again open.

And then I woke up out of fantasy land before I came crashing to the ground.

I do like the idea of a dogging car park festival, maybe a drive in cinema experience playing porn on a 50’ screen. Apparently Bedford have a great riverside car park ????.

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By *i explorer and steveMan
over a year ago

Boston and Higham Ferrers

"Let’s hope that common sense prevails and the licence is applied for, accepted,, fee paid (through gritted teeth) and JDs doors are once again open.

And then I woke up out of fantasy land before I came crashing to the ground.

I do like the idea of a dogging car park festival, maybe a drive in cinema experience playing porn on a 50’ screen. Apparently Bedford have a great riverside car park ????. "

Bedford Borough Council has a lovely big car park right outside there offices lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope you get everything sorted. Although I only visit once a year I've always been made welcome and made some great friends each time I've been

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By *H_CJCouple
over a year ago

Swaffham (ish) and Dereham (ish)

Sorry to read this; hope it gets sorted very soon.....feeling horny and need to go clubbing soon!

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

wow Dreams United that would be naughty lmao

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

As Dreams United has said we are having problems with the council they are not being very helpful at all and telling us to consult a solicitor all the time. Even though one of their problems was they had done the forms wrong. The price has gone up 3 times to apply for the licence too which seems very strange. So we are as Dreams has said going to grit our teeth and pay the £4,500 to apply and hope for the best that they will accept

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t we just love the bureaucrats whose only purpose in life is to perpetuate endless red tape!!!! What a rewarding life they must lead – not !!

Councils and their licenses are legendary in my field of work, licences to print money more like!!!

In terms of effort and expense it is virtually pointless trying to fight them and they know it. They are infamous devils for moving the goal posts again and again should you try.

There is argument certainly – this is a private club with a regulated membership, on private ground well away from public view not a peep show on the High Street.

Sadly your only action, other than changing the business, is as you have said pay the fee and play their game.

In the meantime if the mass dogging festival or 50’ cinema goes ahead count me in ?

Missing you all heaps, let’s hope it isn’t for too much longer. Massive reopening weekend me thinks!!!

Xxx Kitten xxx

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By *lackxroseCouple
over a year ago

Toddington/Chalton

Good luck and keep us up to date please.

Only club we attend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There must be a member that is a solicitor or of legal knowhow that could help out .

We are new members and itching for our second visit ....

It seems like it's all about the financial gain , could you not get around it by saying entrance fee is free but car parking is x amount .

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

we wish

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By *arijcCouple
over a year ago

Rotherham

Although we aren't regular visitors, we love it when we do visit. Fingers crossed the council sees sense. Would it help with a petition or letters of support.

Good luck.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Would crowd funding help?

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By *lim_jim1964Man
over a year ago

peterborough

Great club, my thoughts are with you J&T, look forward to all being up and running again soon ??

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Best of luck dealing with the council... I hope you are able to open again before too long.

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By *etsplay4realCouple
over a year ago

Essex - Cambs Border!

Bump Bump! xx

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By *istress CockneyWoman
over a year ago

LONDON

Note a few have visited from time to time?

How about when JDs get the green light and re open we all get down there and help recoup this sex tax

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By *aughtywifeandhimCouple
over a year ago

bedford

Why not bother to operate as a club any more and just have private party's with invitations sent out to those who want to attend. We enjoy our visits to jaydees

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By *rishmocha2Couple
over a year ago

Beds

Really shocked / surprised that that the council have forced this, we weren't regulars, but enjoyed our visits here. I dont quite understand why they've pushed this, the club wasn't in the middle of town, no close neighbours, schools, no parking issues & in theory it was a private members club. Hope they get their license.

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

It isn't about where we are, its the fact that we needed a Sexual Entertainment Venue licence, its all to do with nudity in the club.

Hopefully we are getting there, its something that councils are gradually introducing, to generate more revenue £4500.00 nonreturnable to apply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hopefully you’ll get it sorted soon. Then throw an awesome party

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fingers crossed you're sorted and open again soon!

The Mr and I will be back when you do!

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By *etsplay4realCouple
over a year ago

Essex - Cambs Border!

Bump Bump XX

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By *inky guy 88Man
over a year ago

luton

Can someone explain how an Sev licence works for a club of this kind. Looking at the conditions holding this licence in any of the listed categories would prohibit sexual acts between customers and require recorded cctv of every area including private rooms.

The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can someone explain how an Sev licence works for a club of this kind. Looking at the conditions holding this licence in any of the listed categories would prohibit sexual acts between customers and require recorded cctv of every area including private rooms.

The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.

I believe that the conditions can be interpreted to include any venue that offers sexual services which does and would include any club that allows sex or portrays sex via video screens in there venue. The punishment for breaking the rules are quite severe. Of course not all councils are implementing the sev requirement but it appears more and more are. The nasty bit is the upfront cost with no guarantee of a successful application. Things have changed a lot over the past 20 years and clubs have become more popular and the number of them has increased which brings them in to view of the local council's and in turn the tax they can generate from them. The obvious conclusion is the smaller venues will fall by the way side. The upside is the strong possibility that there will be a upturn in house parties which is where the clubs scene was born from in the first place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.

I really hope it doesn’t go to house parties. We tried it and really didn’t like them. It’s so much safer and less pressure at a club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Sev licence is very geared towards clubs where people pay to see people who are being paid to provide adult entertainment.

I really hope it doesn’t go to house parties. We tried it and really didn’t like them. It’s so much safer and less pressure at a club. "

House parties are no different to clubs in as much as No means No in both environments. We have been to lots of clubs and house parties and have never felt any pressure to do anything and I've only ever felt unsafe once and that was a case of to many candles and to much nylon! Don't get me wrong I feel that the powers that be sticking there noses in is a terrible thing and I wish they would sod off and mind there own but that isn't likely to happen. I can think of at 4 club venues within an hour of us that currently operate under the radar and are prime for council intervention. Money talks and that's just the way it is.

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By *etsplay4realCouple
over a year ago

Essex - Cambs Border!

Bump Bump!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I really hope it doesn’t go to house parties. We tried it and really didn’t like them. It’s so much safer and less pressure at a club. "
I know what you mean. At house parties it's always so much more pressure to play

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Clubs employ professional staff which helps with safety. They also tend to have more equipment available such as hot tubs, saunas, and kink play areas with expensive play equipment. Jaydees has a hot tub so large you can swim in it. No house party could hope to match an excellent club for facilities or atmosphere.

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By *wesome ChauffeurMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden, Essex

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By *wesome ChauffeurMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden, Essex

"Clubs employ professional staff which helps with safety. They also tend to have more equipment available such as hot tubs, saunas, and kink play areas with expensive play equipment. Jaydees has a hot tub so large you can swim in it. No house party could hope to match an excellent club for facilities or atmosphere. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The point I was trying to make was this. The more councils get involved the less clubs there will be and the result of such intervention will be an increase in house parties, life finds a way! And not all clubs employ professional staff and not all clubs have the best equipment or atmosphere. This wasn't a comparison between the two forms it's a simple statement of fact as to what happens when the authorities get involved.

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By *andrxCouple
over a year ago

bedford

We really hope there is a happy ending with this situation , at jaydees we have had the most wonderful times both socialy and sexually The time money and effort invested by John , Tracey and the team has made it 100% the best club around by far . Good luck guys and hope to be seeing you real soon .

Steve and Rosie

Xxx

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

I agree that could well be the result of councils poking their noses into clubs....

However after the post stating this, there were a few posters saying that this would be a good thing as they prefer house parties.

I've done plenty of both, house parties and clubs...and I'd hate to lose clubs for the reasons I outlined. Both type of event have their place, and it looks like councils are not just looking at unprofessionally run clubs as Jaydees is probably as well run as you'll find anywhere...and one of the best equipped.

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By *wesome ChauffeurMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden, Essex

I agree that could well be the result of councils poking their noses into clubs....

However after the post stating this, there were a few posters saying that this would be a good thing as they prefer house parties.

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By *etsplay4realCouple
over a year ago

Essex - Cambs Border!

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By *etsplay4realCouple
over a year ago

Essex - Cambs Border!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there any news on Jaydees at all?? Heard really good things about it.

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By * and PCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Is there any news on Jaydees at all?? Heard really good things about it. "

JayDees is still temporarily closed

but keep an eye on the events forums for news of when this very popular and well attended club will be opening again

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Looks like they reopen this weekend

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By * and PCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

Yes JayDees is open this Saturday, only a few hours to go now and the interest for our members for our Hight Heels and Short Skirts party is tremendous, think they have missed us all

So don't be shy come and have fun, you will be glad you did

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

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By *havenpussycatsCouple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

Glad to see you back open. We look forward to making a return visit soon - we still need to pick up our membership cards!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone know if it was a one off while it goes ahead. Or it’s open for good?

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By * and PCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

We will keep everyone updated as to when JayDees club will be open again. On our profile, in here and on the events forum. So please be patient while things are being worked out and please keep watching

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I'm so glad that you are opening again, I know you are going to keep people updated but is there any chance it might be open Friday daytime...

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By * and PCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

JayDees is open this Sat.31st for our Back to School Party, events forum post coming soon

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

See you Saturday. H has got something a bit special in mind apparently

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By *lacksweetmanMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Very sad day indeed.

We are very fond of the club and hope you do reopen soon.

Maybe we should all send letters of support to the council. Please advise.

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By *esires of HertsCouple
over a year ago

Herts and London Borders

"Very sad day indeed.

We are very fond of the club and hope you do reopen soon.

Maybe we should all send letters of support to the council. Please advise."
..think you are out the loop a bit

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By * and PCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

JayDees is open this Sat.31st for our 'Back to School' Party, See post in the events forum

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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago

St Neots/Wisbech

Just finished getting our uniform ready for tonight, must confess I'm feeling rather naughty in it.

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By *DandKCCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford / Gran Canaria

Not long now

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By *ack.Daniels72Man
over a year ago

Bexley

Is Jaydees opening Friday for the daytime events they used to host please?

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By *wesome ChauffeurMan
over a year ago

Saffron Walden, Essex

"Is Jaydees opening Friday for the daytime events they used to host please?"

Contact Jaydees profile page to check.

They reopening full time this Saturday its been announced.

Congratulations JD.

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By *lackxroseCouple
over a year ago

Toddington/Chalton

Fantastic news. Congratulations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great news guys, glad your back.

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

Thank you everyone for the support we appreciate it

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By *enn_27Man
over a year ago

london

TERRIBLE PLACE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad we didn’t see you when we went.

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By *enn_27Man
over a year ago

london

see who?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any news on the daytime sessions yet? Thanks

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By *oungefunMan
over a year ago

Newmarket

Hi new to the club scene is jaydees open Friday 27th September?

How do I go about a membership?

Thanks Jordan

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By *aydeesclub OP Couple
over a year ago

Bedfordshire

Sorry we are not open on Friday's at the moment. We will be in the next month or so.

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