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"How about "Hi how are you?". Or "Do you mind if I/we join you for a chat?". Often just a comment or compliment can start a conversation. What's the worst that could happen?" Very true, but easier said than done but in practice. Very difficult for single guys. I went as a couple with FWB once to a club. It was a whole different experience. As a single, some couples are happy for the approach you mentioned, others can be quite rude and make you feel like a letch! | |||
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"I struggle with this too, and although I'm usually approached, I wish I could be brave enough to be more proactive. " Feel free to be proactive with me lol! | |||
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"How about "Hi how are you?". Or "Do you mind if I/we join you for a chat?". Often just a comment or compliment can start a conversation. What's the worst that could happen? Very true, but easier said than done but in practice. Very difficult for single guys. I went as a couple with FWB once to a club. It was a whole different experience. As a single, some couples are happy for the approach you mentioned, others can be quite rude and make you feel like a letch!" As someone who is usually approached... If they're rude, write them off. It says things about them, not you. I'm polite to anyone who approaches unless the approach is rude. | |||
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"How about "Hi how are you?". Or "Do you mind if I/we join you for a chat?". Often just a comment or compliment can start a conversation. What's the worst that could happen? Very true, but easier said than done but in practice. Very difficult for single guys. I went as a couple with FWB once to a club. It was a whole different experience. As a single, some couples are happy for the approach you mentioned, others can be quite rude and make you feel like a letch! As someone who is usually approached... If they're rude, write them off. It says things about them, not you. I'm polite to anyone who approaches unless the approach is rude. " I'm glad to hear that and always hope any approach I make is responded to accordingly. For me good manners and respect should be a given, anywhere, not just in a club. A swingers club should be no different! | |||
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"How about "Hi how are you?". Or "Do you mind if I/we join you for a chat?". Often just a comment or compliment can start a conversation. What's the worst that could happen? Very true, but easier said than done but in practice. Very difficult for single guys. I went as a couple with FWB once to a club. It was a whole different experience. As a single, some couples are happy for the approach you mentioned, others can be quite rude and make you feel like a letch! As someone who is usually approached... If they're rude, write them off. It says things about them, not you. I'm polite to anyone who approaches unless the approach is rude. I'm glad to hear that and always hope any approach I make is responded to accordingly. For me good manners and respect should be a given, anywhere, not just in a club. A swingers club should be no different!" Definitely. I talk to anyone, it doesn't mean I'll play. The only time I'm even approaching rude is if an approach is particularly unskilled and I'm taken aback (or people are being unusually persistent hassling/ following me, or touching me more than once). | |||
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"Small talk, not about sex. Be friendly." There you go again, saying the things that I swore I'd written, but somehow lost while editing. Yes yes and yes. The social part of the evening is social. We talk about everything. Sex too, but not in a propositiony way - everyone's got some anecdotes that aren't really appropriate for other places (omit the names and details). It's been very educational (and rather eye-opening) hearing about the female side of the swinging life. Pay attention, men, you'll learn a lot of things to not do. "Then ask if I want to go somewhere else. " This is a part that I have a lot of trouble with. If I ever met you at a club, I'd be hoping that you would ask. It's safe to assume that if I'm talking with you, I'm interested. I'm just very shy about making that first approach. Mostly, when I do find the courage to ask, it's in the play areas. If we've been talking before, then I'm not a creepy complete stranger. But also, if it's someone I've played with before, and I've got a reasonable expectation that the answer might be "yes", it's a lot easier to ask the question. | |||
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"I am absolutely useless at making the approach! And rarely to I get approached by others so I totally understand your worries x" I hate feeling like I'm holding court or something. I'm not arrogant. Just shy. Lol. | |||
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"Thinking of the last approaches I used, I did this; Went next to two girls at a bar... Wanted to be served. I said "Sorry ladies! I'm not listening to your conversation, I promise!" Then one replied, "I bet you are!", "Oh, nice accent, are you from....", Etc. Another one, there were cakes at a party, I went up to another two girls who were near and said, "Hey, it's a good job you two are here guarding these cakes! I'd eat who whole lot otherwise!". Then they smile and said back "We've not seen you before, are you new?" Etc... I guess, just don't think about it too much... Don't be nervous, just say anything really but be confident." This A bit of banter. | |||
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"Thinking of the last approaches I used, I did this; Went next to two girls at a bar... Wanted to be served. I said "Sorry ladies! I'm not listening to your conversation, I promise!" Then one replied, "I bet you are!", "Oh, nice accent, are you from....", Etc. Another one, there were cakes at a party, I went up to another two girls who were near and said, "Hey, it's a good job you two are here guarding these cakes! I'd eat who whole lot otherwise!". Then they smile and said back "We've not seen you before, are you new?" Etc... I guess, just don't think about it too much... Don't be nervous, just say anything really but be confident.This A bit of banter." Yeah, usually works for me. I was clubbing in a local town a few weeks ago though and got a rather direct "Ewww, no thanks! Goodbye!" reply. How rude! Most of the time it works great though! | |||
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"One important thing for the shy ones to remember is that a lot of people in a club will be there because they want to meet new people. Not everyone, of course, and a friendly chat doesn't mean play. But if it's a fear of rejection that's stopping you, a club is perhaps the best place to be. Most people I've met have been super friendly." That's so true. Doesn't prevent me being shy. Lol. | |||
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"Be friendly. Open. Non threatening body language and v important just smile..." I am mindful of this and always try my best, however in my experience, within a very short space of time the man or the couple seem to think I'm initiating play, so I'm out off even trying. | |||
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"Doesn't prevent me being shy." Doesn't prevent me either. I just keep repeating it to myself in the hope that my brain one day starts believing it. | |||
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"I never was any good at starting conversations with new people at any time let alone in a club situation, my wife despite being nervous manages fine but she does have the advantage of being a woman. I tend to be more comfortable with people approaching me although that's not a very successful strategy, I realise it's one of those things you've either got or you haven't but would still be interested in any views you may have. " What about a magic trick? | |||
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"I never was any good at starting conversations with new people at any time let alone in a club situation, my wife despite being nervous manages fine but she does have the advantage of being a woman. I tend to be more comfortable with people approaching me although that's not a very successful strategy, I realise it's one of those things you've either got or you haven't but would still be interested in any views you may have. " Smile, say hello and take it from there, simple as that. Don’t over think things! | |||
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"I love it when guys approach us in a club Pat is really friendly anyway and makes easy conversation, I find it turns me on when she appreciates the flattery and obvious attraction of the guy " Spot on, same feeling for us | |||
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"I never was any good at starting conversations with new people at any time let alone in a club situation, my wife despite being nervous manages fine but she does have the advantage of being a woman. I tend to be more comfortable with people approaching me although that's not a very successful strategy, I realise it's one of those things you've either got or you haven't but would still be interested in any views you may have. " I know the feeling MrsJ can start a conversation with anyone but I find it difficult. | |||
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"Sharing a "trade secret" here, but if it helps others... When we have a club night planned, we put it up as our status here and mention that if anyone else is going, say hi. Usually, we've always got 1 or 2 people stating that they'll be there too. That makes it so much easier to start a conversation with them by saying "we exchanged messages on Fab...". Conversation tends to flow from there by discussing things we've written in our profiles before we move to other topics. " Already done that for a visit to club sx on 15th June. I think some females or couples think if they reply to a guy advertising that, that the guy will think play is a sure thing. For me I understand it's down to chemistry when everyone meets up! | |||
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"I love it when guys approach us in a club Pat is really friendly anyway and makes easy conversation, I find it turns me on when she appreciates the flattery and obvious attraction of the guy Spot on, same feeling for us " Good to hear that. Just having the confidence for that first approach, but knowing some couples like a polite approach like that gives me more confidence! | |||
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"Would it be off putting to a single male if Mr A simply asked would you like to fuck her?" It would be unusual though something almost like that did happen to me once. A guy approached me and asked if I would like to join him and his wife in a private room. After I got over the shock I spent a very enjoyable time with them! I'm sure most guys would find a way of coping with that approach lol! | |||
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"The only chatty approach that's really fallen flat with me is moving to play too soon. I don't know where the line is, but "hi I'm x, this is my first time in a club, fancy a play?" is way too soon. " Even if I managed an approach to chat, I would always wait for an invite from the female or couple! | |||
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"have you tried the usual flirting before talking .... eye contact, smiling etc I like the friendly banter. I'm put off when someone walks up and says I want to get my hands on you or I'd love to see whats under your dress " I can imagine that's a bit off putting! Yes, I think eye contact first is important....but not staring or being leary! | |||
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"have you tried the usual flirting before talking .... eye contact, smiling etc I like the friendly banter. I'm put off when someone walks up and says I want to get my hands on you or I'd love to see whats under your dress I can imagine that's a bit off putting! Yes, I think eye contact first is important....but not staring or being leary! " single lady so some approaches aren't the best!! | |||
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"I never was any good at starting conversations with new people at any time let alone in a club situation, my wife despite being nervous manages fine but she does have the advantage of being a woman. I tend to be more comfortable with people approaching me although that's not a very successful strategy, I realise it's one of those things you've either got or you haven't but would still be interested in any views you may have. " It's a matter of confidence. Try practicing with normal Chat with females you meet in everyday life... "Hello... Morning...nice day isn't it.... This will build confidence. I too am shy, but I've overcome it, and I now host parties ! Mary | |||
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"I have a specific question for single females and a specific question for couples when face to face in a club that prevents me wasting my time. Not divulging the questions so don't bother asking " What the... oh my days Frank! You gonna leave us hanging like that!? Alright fine, if you don't want to share your secret questions... how about some tips to help the rest of us shy ones? | |||
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"Would it be off putting to a single male if Mr A simply asked would you like to fuck her? It would be unusual though something almost like that did happen to me once. A guy approached me and asked if I would like to join him and his wife in a private room. After I got over the shock I spent a very enjoyable time with them! I'm sure most guys would find a way of coping with that approach lol!" I'm pretty sure that was a rare occasion, but fair play to you mate! All too often in a club setting, I've found couples unapproachable, some going out of their way to avoid eye contact, and even moving on elsewhere when you approach them. The inevitable "We're not interested in single guys" line, as you try to open a dialogue is a real conversation stopper too. Clubs are for couples | |||
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"Would it be off putting to a single male if Mr A simply asked would you like to fuck her? It would be unusual though something almost like that did happen to me once. A guy approached me and asked if I would like to join him and his wife in a private room. After I got over the shock I spent a very enjoyable time with them! I'm sure most guys would find a way of coping with that approach lol! I'm pretty sure that was a rare occasion, but fair play to you mate! All too often in a club setting, I've found couples unapproachable, some going out of their way to avoid eye contact, and even moving on elsewhere when you approach them. The inevitable "We're not interested in single guys" line, as you try to open a dialogue is a real conversation stopper too. Clubs are for couples " Clubs are for people.....that couple could of been a couple for the evening and using the club for their own experiences. People go to clubs for a million and one reasons. It's people with tainted notions and ideas that puts people off before they've even been. | |||
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"Would it be off putting to a single male if Mr A simply asked would you like to fuck her?" It would put me off immediately, comes across pimpish. I'd like her to make a move to give the indication of interest, then approval from him to her about her choice. I found clubs very hard to converse in as a single male. Get knocked repeatedly a few times and confidence goes. Been told on forums a few times that it's the single guys responsibility to make the move to feel welcomed, which is uncomfortable being a visitor. It's definitely easier IMO if regulars were to be more friendly to newbies. I gave up after a few visits. | |||
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" ......... I've found couples unapproachable, some going out of their way to avoid eye contact, and even moving on elsewhere when you approach them. The inevitable "We're not interested in single guys" line, as you try to open a dialogue is a real conversation stopper too. Clubs are for couples " It’s just this kind of attitude that really put Scarlett off clubs for a very long time. Won’t mention which club but we were hounded by single guys expecting some kind of interaction just because we were there when they were there. When we politely declined explaining that we were there to enjoy our own company they looked dumbfounded (which wasn’t hard for them to accomplish). She is just coming around to the idea of trying a club again, this time on a couples night. Fingers crossed! | |||
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" ......... I've found couples unapproachable, some going out of their way to avoid eye contact, and even moving on elsewhere when you approach them. The inevitable "We're not interested in single guys" line, as you try to open a dialogue is a real conversation stopper too. Clubs are for couples It’s just this kind of attitude that really put Scarlett off clubs for a very long time. Won’t mention which club but we were hounded by single guys expecting some kind of interaction just because we were there when they were there. When we politely declined explaining that we were there to enjoy our own company they looked dumbfounded (which wasn’t hard for them to accomplish). She is just coming around to the idea of trying a club again, this time on a couples night. Fingers crossed! " How is trying to make eye contact and striking up a conversation 'hounding'? | |||
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"I always attend clubs as a single lady, i dont mind anyone approaching me for a chat etc, ive always found everyone friendly. If i see anyone sat on there own i always invite them over or sit with them " I definitely hope to meet someone like you (or even you!) On my next visit to a club!! Xx | |||
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"If the eye contact is made many times after someone has already chosen to look away then it can be seen as hounding " I see what they mean now. I didn't connect the multiple avoidance of eye contact with then being approached. I just assume they were two different methods of getting their attention. It's so much easy just to read someone's profile and if there is common interest then message lol. If they ignore then there no walk of shame. | |||
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"Would it be off putting to a single male if Mr A simply asked would you like to fuck her? It would be unusual though something almost like that did happen to me once. A guy approached me and asked if I would like to join him and his wife in a private room. After I got over the shock I spent a very enjoyable time with them! I'm sure most guys would find a way of coping with that approach lol! I'm pretty sure that was a rare occasion, but fair play to you mate! All too often in a club setting, I've found couples unapproachable, some going out of their way to avoid eye contact, and even moving on elsewhere when you approach them. The inevitable "We're not interested in single guys" line, as you try to open a dialogue is a real conversation stopper too. Clubs are for couples Clubs are for people.....that couple could of been a couple for the evening and using the club for their own experiences. People go to clubs for a million and one reasons. It's people with tainted notions and ideas that puts people off before they've even been." Any "tainted notions and ideas" of mine are borne from genuine experiences of being a single male in a club, which I'm fairly sure you have no experience of... | |||
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"The only chatty approach that's really fallen flat with me is moving to play too soon. I don't know where the line is, but "hi I'm x, this is my first time in a club, fancy a play?" is way too soon. " Cannot blame him, just the timing. However I agree about only talking about sex, gives no insight into their values/behaviour and bores us ridged. ‘Bout as sapiosexual as a Grannies slipper. | |||
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"I am absolutely useless at making the approach! And rarely to I get approached by others so I totally understand your worries x I hate feeling like I'm holding court or something. I'm not arrogant. Just shy. Lol. " I think people avoid me as they think I am arrogant....I am just pretty shy (unless I have had quite a bit to drink) | |||
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"Well, my latest club visit was a bit of a revelation for me, all it took was a little friendly chat with one couple in the bar area (I approached them as they were sitting on a sofa), and a cheeky smile to the lady of another couple sitting nearby, and I had an amazing night of horny fun It doesn’t always happen like this for a single guy in a club, but I certainly hope it does more in future " Well done | |||
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"Eventually one evening we went into the sauna and saw a couple we had seen earlier and I asked them if they fancied a play upstairs, within 5 minutes we were all having a great time They said afterwards like us they had been several times but too nervous to talk to anyone" Fantastic! And it goes to show - you can't make any assumptions about others. My default is to assume that they won't be interested in talking (or anything else) with me. When I force myself to forget that I've had some great nights. | |||
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"Would it be off putting to a single male if Mr A simply asked would you like to fuck her? It would be unusual though something almost like that did happen to me once. A guy approached me and asked if I would like to join him and his wife in a private room. After I got over the shock I spent a very enjoyable time with them! I'm sure most guys would find a way of coping with that approach lol! I'm pretty sure that was a rare occasion, but fair play to you mate! All too often in a club setting, I've found couples unapproachable, some going out of their way to avoid eye contact, and even moving on elsewhere when you approach them. The inevitable "We're not interested in single guys" line, as you try to open a dialogue is a real conversation stopper too. Clubs are for couples Clubs are for people.....that couple could of been a couple for the evening and using the club for their own experiences. People go to clubs for a million and one reasons. It's people with tainted notions and ideas that puts people off before they've even been. Any "tainted notions and ideas" of mine are borne from genuine experiences of being a single male in a club, which I'm fairly sure you have no experience of..." No of course I don't, but I do know how to act like a respectable human being, regardless of my sex. I'm not going to assume what's tainted you. Clubs aren't really places for egos or people with broken wings, maybe stick with bowling, or football matches. As im unsure why someone would feel offended or tainted for not having sex in a club, you pay to enter the club not anyone you please. Being turned down isn't meant to taint you but not everyone can handle rejection. | |||
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"Would it be off putting to a single male if Mr A simply asked would you like to fuck her? It would be unusual though something almost like that did happen to me once. A guy approached me and asked if I would like to join him and his wife in a private room. After I got over the shock I spent a very enjoyable time with them! I'm sure most guys would find a way of coping with that approach lol! I'm pretty sure that was a rare occasion, but fair play to you mate! All too often in a club setting, I've found couples unapproachable, some going out of their way to avoid eye contact, and even moving on elsewhere when you approach them. The inevitable "We're not interested in single guys" line, as you try to open a dialogue is a real conversation stopper too. Clubs are for couples Clubs are for people.....that couple could of been a couple for the evening and using the club for their own experiences. People go to clubs for a million and one reasons. It's people with tainted notions and ideas that puts people off before they've even been. Any "tainted notions and ideas" of mine are borne from genuine experiences of being a single male in a club, which I'm fairly sure you have no experience of... No of course I don't, but I do know how to act like a respectable human being, regardless of my sex. I'm not going to assume what's tainted you. Clubs aren't really places for egos or people with broken wings, maybe stick with bowling, or football matches. As im unsure why someone would feel offended or tainted for not having sex in a club, you pay to enter the club not anyone you please. Being turned down isn't meant to taint you but not everyone can handle rejection." It appears you have your own tainted notions and ideas. Let's agree to disagree | |||
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"I never was any good at starting conversations with new people at any time let alone in a club situation, my wife despite being nervous manages fine but she does have the advantage of being a woman. I tend to be more comfortable with people approaching me although that's not a very successful strategy, I realise it's one of those things you've either got or you haven't but would still be interested in any views you may have. " Finding a reason to start a conversation is always the hardest part of any approach. If you are walking up to somebody then a simple "Hello" with a smile is the easiest way. If it is a couple then a few compliments direct to the female will always go down well but don't forget to include the guy in the conversation. | |||
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"Yeah, I played with three people at my last party. Not the ones who touched without asking, not the ones who ground in front of me, not the ones who jumped straight to sex. A friend, and those who talked to me like a person. " This is exactly it. She was made to feel like a piece of meat, not a human. She's not on fab hence me posting this. The polite guy just chatted like one might in a pub. Indeed i reckon he'd be good company over a pint. | |||
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"Yeah, I played with three people at my last party. Not the ones who touched without asking, not the ones who ground in front of me, not the ones who jumped straight to sex. A friend, and those who talked to me like a person. This is exactly it. She was made to feel like a piece of meat, not a human. She's not on fab hence me posting this. The polite guy just chatted like one might in a pub. Indeed i reckon he'd be good company over a pint. " Oh i wondered why you two looked a bit preeved later in the evening. Guess there is alsway one dickhead. | |||
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"What works for me being approached is this. Small talk, not about sex. Be friendly. Don't stare at my body (I mean yes you're going to look, I know, but mostly the eyes are up here). Make me feel comfortable. (in a couple you do this talking to both of them). No set amount of time, really, watch body language (although I appreciate it can be difficult to gauge the difference between polite and interested). Then ask if I want to go somewhere else. " Nice advice.. is it ok to have long eye contact or short one multiple times? Some may think agrassive if it's long (personal perception). | |||
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" Oh i wondered why you two looked a bit preeved later in the evening. Guess there is alsway one dickhead. " Yeah we were a bit wary and keeping an eye out for "creepy guy". Just to be clear, I your attitude was fine too. | |||
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"I am absolutely useless at making the approach! And rarely to I get approached by others so I totally understand your worries x I hate feeling like I'm holding court or something. I'm not arrogant. Just shy. Lol. I think people avoid me as they think I am arrogant....I am just pretty shy (unless I have had quite a bit to drink)" As we're quite local to each other, perhaps we should agree to approach each other if we're every at the same club! | |||
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