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"This is what worries me about le boudoir... my partner wants to go... he is fit, slimish, muscley arms etc. And then there’s me.... I worry that it’s me that’s gonna get refused. Makes me not want to apply. I’ve heard a few stories like this. " Well your sexy well in many eyes and I would not think there should be a issue on your looks I find a club you feel sexy in is always best over one that you go just to say your a member. well am not one of them cool cats I like events with dirty minded fun people in no matter there class or looks. some of the best nights have been at shitty looking venues with great people of all ages | |||
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"This is what worries me about le boudoir... my partner wants to go... he is fit, slimish, muscley arms etc. And then there’s me.... I worry that it’s me that’s gonna get refused. Makes me not want to apply. I’ve heard a few stories like this. Well your sexy well in many eyes and I would not think there should be a issue on your looks I find a club you feel sexy in is always best over one that you go just to say your a member. well am not one of them cool cats I like events with dirty minded fun people in no matter there class or looks. some of the best nights have been at shitty looking venues with great people of all ages" Jaydees is my regular club, very friendly and accepting. They don’t pick and choose members based on appearance. they just expect their members to turn up well dressed (no jeans/trainers) looking good and to enjoy themselves | |||
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"Honey, they don't deserve you. You know what? the decor isn't all that great compared to VA or Xstasia. Still it's up to them. Problem was i never saw anyone there that we considered to be drop dead gorgeous " As part of the staff team at The Vanilla Alternative (VA), I'm sure the owner will be pleased with your comments. Our visitors span the age range, are all shapes and sizes and come from a wide variety of backgrounds but they are all just wonderful people with a common desire to have a couple of hours of adult fun with other likeminded people in a nice environment. | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. How extremely rude! I've never been tempted to apply for le boudoir as I presumably wouldn't meet their criteria either, and prefer events which are full of normal people of all shapes, sizes and looks. " I couldn't agree more. Just because somebody is beautiful and has a great body does not make them sexy or a nice person automatically. | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. " I understand they want a certain "type" of person in their club. Their club, their perogative. There is however a polite and respectful way to deliver bad news. They were neither. Unfortunately clubs like this get away with disgusting attitudes and behaviours because there are literally hundreds of people lining up to get in. Fuck 'em. Take your custom elsewhere, where you'll be appreciated and respected. | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. " My god, how rude of them. Sounds like a place to avoid to me. Leave them to their elitist crap, at some point they may get their heads out of their own arses when they realise they are losing business to other clubs because of nasty emails and a rude attitude. Interestingly they haven't responded on this thread. | |||
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"It's a club I won't go near because I don't agree with this bullshit assessment of how attractive someone is. I'm a fan of inclusiveness and Le Boudair is the polar opposite of that " Spot on | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. " I love that they put "with all due respect" at the start of such a vile email like so easyhow that cancels out the nastiness | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. " There's a way a maintaining minomen standards (something all clubs have to varying degrees) without coming across as nasty and rude though | |||
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"The key phrase there was 'varying degrees'.... " No, the key phrase was "without coming across as nasty and rude though". | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. There's a way a maintaining minomen standards (something all clubs have to varying degrees) without coming across as nasty and rude though " I guess when you've got a list of 20,000 registrants you can be as vile as you like. One to avoid...... | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. " And yet despure knowing all that...... you initially let them in and took their money. | |||
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"Nothing vile about an honest opinion. Just because you don't like it, doesnt mean it isn't so...." Sick burn | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. " . I am sorry to hear of your story.I applied the beginning of December for membership at Le Boudoir as a single guy I was not to sure I would be accepted because of my age but as I had seen reviews from other guys similar age to me I thought nonething ventured nonething gained.I sent the picture on my profile of me in a suit as I felt that would be the way they would expect the men to dress so let’s show them what I look like.Within 24 hours I received a email saying they were oversubscribed in my category although disappointed I accepted.A few days later I received a message from a guy on this site who I had been chatting with to say his membership had been accepted.The guy who was accepted is 3 years younger than me and British.I accept Le Boudoir decision after all it’s there right but I do wonder sometimes if nationality had something to do with it. | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. " So why were they allowed in in the first place? | |||
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"Better that they should have been turned them away at the door, with them having travelled? They got to enjoy this evening. Which is why they wanted to return this weekend. If it was about money, we wouldn't turn anyone away, would we?" Oh right you didn't have the balls to tell them face to face. | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. And yet despure knowing all that...... you initially let them in and took their money. " But your email to them didn't say any of those things it said that he was overweight and that the wife wasn't attractive. You haven't done yourself any favours with this response and actually "even if I did fit your minimum standards" I would avoid like the plague. There are ways of handling people and I think yours are exceptionally disrespectful and damn right rude! | |||
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"Yes you are right.. I should have turned them away at the door. I'm just too forgiving some times!" And yes you should have done rather than accepting their money and then sending a disrespectful email! | |||
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"That called a silent orgasm. " Is there such a thing as a silent orgasm?? Damn someone must be doing it wrong... Mine are definitely noisy | |||
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"That called a silent orgasm. " Hard currency does not speak but gives silent orgasm ... | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. " 20,000 registrants and regulars? That's less exclusive than Butlins! | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. And yet despure knowing all that...... you initially let them in and took their money. But your email to them didn't say any of those things it said that he was overweight and that the wife wasn't attractive. You haven't done yourself any favours with this response and actually "even if I did fit your minimum standards" I would avoid like the plague. There are ways of handling people and I think yours are exceptionally disrespectful and damn right rude!" Totally agree. | |||
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"Going to be slated, but we can see where the owners are coming from to an extent. There are elite parties in vanilla life too, that we may or may not be invited to, we wouldn’t persist for reasons why if we weren’t invited! Chances are we probably wouldn’t get excepted at the club either, but they’re honest about what kind of people they want attending their club at least. We personally wouldn’t meet anyone unless we both found them attractive, and they’re personality matched, pretty much what they’re doing at their club. Im sure there are plenty of other clubs you could go to, just like there are plenty of other people we could meet, if someone decides we’re not their cup of tea." I also note that the OP got his initial invite on the basis of an old photo. I may be wrong, but I suspect said photo showed him somewhat slimmer. In which case, he only has himself to blame for his subsequent rejection. | |||
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"Going to be slated, but we can see where the owners are coming from to an extent. There are elite parties in vanilla life too, that we may or may not be invited to, we wouldn’t persist for reasons why if we weren’t invited! Chances are we probably wouldn’t get excepted at the club either, but they’re honest about what kind of people they want attending their club at least. We personally wouldn’t meet anyone unless we both found them attractive, and they’re personality matched, pretty much what they’re doing at their club. Im sure there are plenty of other clubs you could go to, just like there are plenty of other people we could meet, if someone decides we’re not their cup of tea. I also note that the OP got his initial invite on the basis of an old photo. I may be wrong, but I suspect said photo showed him somewhat slimmer. In which case, he only has himself to blame for his subsequent rejection. " And I agree with that. But the initial visit should have explained. And if the guy was still smartly dressed, presented well, effort duly made etc etc then (unless there’s a no fatty policy that the club have denied) then it shouldn’t have been a problem. V x | |||
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"I didn’t get accepted either The blonde x" Bloody hell Im doomed then V x | |||
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"Going to be slated, but we can see where the owners are coming from to an extent. There are elite parties in vanilla life too, that we may or may not be invited to, we wouldn’t persist for reasons why if we weren’t invited! Chances are we probably wouldn’t get excepted at the club either, but they’re honest about what kind of people they want attending their club at least. We personally wouldn’t meet anyone unless we both found them attractive, and they’re personality matched, pretty much what they’re doing at their club. Im sure there are plenty of other clubs you could go to, just like there are plenty of other people we could meet, if someone decides we’re not their cup of tea. I also note that the OP got his initial invite on the basis of an old photo. I may be wrong, but I suspect said photo showed him somewhat slimmer. In which case, he only has himself to blame for his subsequent rejection. And I agree with that. But the initial visit should have explained. And if the guy was still smartly dressed, presented well, effort duly made etc etc then (unless there’s a no fatty policy that the club have denied) then it shouldn’t have been a problem. V x " I am afraid that the harsh truth is that clubs like this do consider people who are significantly overweight as "not meeting their standards". I don't know if they say that explicitly, but it's not hard to work out. | |||
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"Hmmmm this is interesting and I hope no one says anything that gets it pulled down. I’m Super glad the owners have joined the discussion. I did do the photo application ages ago and was accepted but never went. I was planning on restarting my application to go to a fellow fabsters birthday party in March. Now I have heard really good things about this club and it was on my list of must do in 2019 but I am a little disappointed in the slightly unprofessional response from the owners. I understand that actually we are just a handful of potential customers and possibly not overly important to the club bottom line. But given that we tend to tell others about what clubs to go to (especially those of us with lots of clubbing experience), if I were the owner I’d be explaining this with slightly more professional overtones. I appreciate a club doing all it can to ensure that it’s attendees look great, but I also appreciate that looking great is possible for all sizes, shapes, colours, backgrounds. I for one, will make a judgment based on how this thread goes. Do you care? Maybe not and that’s ok. Like we’ve already said. There are other places to go V x " There aren't really other places in central London though. We really struggle in this area. | |||
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"To Begin with we were neither of us scruffy or lacking in personal grooming unlike some of the single guys that approached us that night. You make us sound like we had just feel out of a farm shed. You were very suspicious of us and quizzed us regarding where we lived as you knew our town quite well. We felt at the time that you simply didn't really like us. Anyway we never even received the initial e,ail that you said was sent after our visit and in Oct when i inquired regarding the even with live music my query was well received and responded to. Had you have sent the email promptly after our first visit then maybe it would have been ok. I will let everyone on this thread think how we look as i will send them pics." Did the photo you initially sent show you as slimmer than you are now? | |||
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"To Begin with we were neither of us scruffy or lacking in personal grooming unlike some of the single guys that approached us that night. You make us sound like we had just feel out of a farm shed. You were very suspicious of us and quizzed us regarding where we lived as you knew our town quite well. We felt at the time that you simply didn't really like us. Anyway we never even received the initial e,ail that you said was sent after our visit and in Oct when i inquired regarding the even with live music my query was well received and responded to. Had you have sent the email promptly after our first visit then maybe it would have been ok. I will let everyone on this thread think how we look as i will send them pics." Bit of a nasty situation to be honest, the owner from his posts comes across as nasty and narrow minded,and quite flippant as well. Just looked at the profile pics of the op and although only the female pics,they seem fine. Based on the clubs ctriteria I dont think we would be welcome either. Find a club that is not such elitist | |||
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".......... I will let everyone on this thread think how we look as i will send them pics." Well your ass and pussy pics certainly pass our minimum standards! As for this and every other club, they should all (imho) have minimum standards they adhere to. | |||
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"To Begin with we were neither of us scruffy or lacking in personal grooming unlike some of the single guys that approached us that night. You make us sound like we had just feel out of a farm shed. You were very suspicious of us and quizzed us regarding where we lived as you knew our town quite well. We felt at the time that you simply didn't really like us. Anyway we never even received the initial e,ail that you said was sent after our visit and in Oct when i inquired regarding the even with live music my query was well received and responded to. Had you have sent the email promptly after our first visit then maybe it would have been ok. I will let everyone on this thread think how we look as i will send them pics. Bit of a nasty situation to be honest, the owner from his posts comes across as nasty and narrow minded,and quite flippant as well. Just looked at the profile pics of the op and although only the female pics,they seem fine. Based on the clubs ctriteria I dont think we would be welcome either. Find a club that is not such elitist " Yes fine and probably as old as the op's were. | |||
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".......... I will let everyone on this thread think how we look as i will send them pics. Well your ass and pussy pics certainly pass our minimum standards! As for this and every other club, they should all (imho) have minimum standards they adhere to. " I'm not sure the post is about minimum standards, which I agree is important by the way. I think the post is more about respect, courtesy, manners and ethics. I might be wrong though. | |||
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"This is what worries me about le boudoir... my partner wants to go... he is fit, slimish, muscley arms etc. And then there’s me.... I worry that it’s me that’s gonna get refused. Makes me not want to apply. I’ve heard a few stories like this. Same here... I'm holding off going as I'm curvy but a size 14/16 I'm probably a size 15 lol. I'm not ugly. I know that. But I feel that I wouldn't dream of going there until I've reached my ideal size of 10/12. Trim is very handsome and slim build with muscles he's building. He would I'm sure be a hit there but I think they would be too judgemental towards me as I'm not an Instagram gymshark model. Eski" There you go..... This club’s standards are giving you the incentive and motivation to get down to your ideal size. (said with tongue in cheek so please don’t vilify me) | |||
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"This is what worries me about le boudoir... my partner wants to go... he is fit, slimish, muscley arms etc. And then there’s me.... I worry that it’s me that’s gonna get refused. Makes me not want to apply. I’ve heard a few stories like this. " Girl if they refuse you fuck em your gorgeous xx | |||
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"The owner's responses remind me of Basil Fawlty's attitude towards his customers..." glad I wasn't the only one thinking that | |||
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"The owner's responses remind me of Basil Fawlty's attitude towards his customers..." Don’t mention the War!! | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. " Who the hell runs that place?! So rude! And if they think your partner is overweight they need to go Specsavers. Stuck up c**ts. | |||
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"Yep they did the same to me no explanation. Even sent me invites to attend parties. Asked them for an explanation no reply I think this club has some form of discrimination policy " Their "discrimination" policy is against people not considered to be conventionally attractive. Which basically means the older and the heavier will have a job getting in. | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. Who the hell runs that place?! So rude! And if they think your partner is overweight they need to go Specsavers. Stuck up c**ts. " From the way its written, it seems as if they were saying his partner is not attractive, not that she is overweight. | |||
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"When they were advertising black boudoir over a year ago,I received a friends request from the club on here,it's still there not accepted as I know I wouldn't be accepted as a member,I understand there criteria,and there not the only place I'm not welcome,as I'm not Mary poppins (practically perfect) Sometimes even the Mary Poppins types can get rejected,I think they just find it alot harder to accept,welcome to my world" Hehe. Been rejected as well. Only applied because their existing male members kept asking me to go with them. Ah well... They clearly know better what their male customers want. Just got accepted by VA, where I applied for the exact same reason. | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. Who the hell runs that place?! So rude! And if they think your partner is overweight they need to go Specsavers. Stuck up c**ts. From the way its written, it seems as if they were saying his partner is not attractive, not that she is overweight. " Oh yeah I misread that bit. But still that is very rude. | |||
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"Thanks, actually we live in Newmarket so are quite close to VA and Jaydees" VA and hayseed both are nice clubs and staff are welcoming and professional. I met some amazing people in both clubs from all ages, types, size, colour and walk of life. VA does amazing bi parties every first Friday of a month. I can guarantee you will be treated with respect and will have lots of fun at this venue. | |||
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"I didn’t get accepted either The blonde x Bloody hell Im doomed then V x " I (hayley) was going to attend for a friend's birthday and was also rejected. Not going to lie it stung we go to a lot of clubs and have never had an issue. | |||
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"I do agree with most of what you are saying. However we are not badly groomed scruffy shitbags... as he is somewhat implying " People get confused with day to day businesses and the clubs. The clubs on the whole,are run by individuals who are in the lifestyle and want to provide a safe and friendly place to play. If you ran an event you may want to set some ground rules yourself. Indeed we are sure you do not play with whoever and have a type you go for. These are people replying to you not corporate organisations. | |||
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"A little tale of karma for you..... We were rejected for membership at a well known, selective swinging 'club' which takes it's parties around the country. This was around 9 years ago. The same company approached us to hire our club for an exclusive party 2 years ago. We rejected them and they were pissed. One of my finer moments....lol" Haha well done you | |||
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"I’m a member. I’m old. I’m hairy. I’m bisexual. I’ve got a pot belly. I’m bearded, an immigrant and voted Remain. I accept life as it happens and move on. The OP has published selective parts of private correspondence to denigrate a much needed club. He should accept the decision gracefully. I’ve visited the club pretty much since it opened. I was refused membership but turned up with a female partner and got one of the night passes. The owners emailed the following day saying they made a mistake judging me on my photo alone. My attitude swing things so I was ‘in’ Body shape plays a part in but it is not everything. Good manners, grace, dress sense and attitude are key to everything in life not just swinging. I read a lot of status’s, verifications and use private notes extensively. I have various things noted from OPs updates so I wouldn’t play with them based on what they’ve previously said. I understand why the club let them in rather than say no. A day pass doesn’t guarantee membership. If you’ve travelled miles to visit being told no is a major blow to your ego and night. If the membership photo is out of date then you only have yourselves to blame. Any road up, what’s done is done. People have the right to spend their money and take custom wherever they want. LB appeals to a part of the market and not everyone can be in it. My age puts me into an exciting demographic soon. I for one can’t wait. Oh the person having their birthday party in March is me. I have had my last two there. The 50+ couples and singles I have invited share my outlook and attitude. A complete mix of body shapes, so it will be a bloody fun night. Apply away for membership. It really is worth it. MHG " | |||
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"A little tale of karma for you..... We were rejected for membership at a well known, selective swinging 'club' which takes it's parties around the country. This was around 9 years ago. The same company approached us to hire our club for an exclusive party 2 years ago. We rejected them and they were pissed. One of my finer moments....lol" Karmas a bitch lol , bet you felt great x | |||
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"Looks like they accepted membership to people to start their club and once they got their "beautiful" people coming they had a relook and cancelled the ones they felt didn't fit Thier criteria....nasty way of running a club" yep agree with that summery. It had just opened when I joined diddnt have a problem taking my money then | |||
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"A little tale of karma for you..... We were rejected for membership at a well known, selective swinging 'club' which takes it's parties around the country. This was around 9 years ago. The same company approached us to hire our club for an exclusive party 2 years ago. We rejected them and they were pissed. One of my finer moments....lol Karmas a bitch lol , bet you felt great x" I'm ashamed to say that I gloated and it felt wonderful!!!!! Hahaha | |||
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"Well.....heard enough in the first half of this thread to know that even if we were what the club wanted from attendees and they were to offer to let us party for free.....I'd still fxxk off elsewhere! Glad we're only normal folk and dont have to worry about being part of the up their own ass elite crowd #yawn " | |||
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"I didn’t get accepted either The blonde x Bloody hell Im doomed then V x I (hayley) was going to attend for a friend's birthday and was also rejected. Not going to lie it stung we go to a lot of clubs and have never had an issue." Fucking hell Hayley. I’ve no chance. | |||
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"A little tale of karma for you..... We were rejected for membership at a well known, selective swinging 'club' which takes it's parties around the country. This was around 9 years ago. The same company approached us to hire our club for an exclusive party 2 years ago. We rejected them and they were pissed. One of my finer moments....lol Karmas a bitch lol , bet you felt great x I'm ashamed to say that I gloated and it felt wonderful!!!!! Hahaha " Wounder how many of their members are now waiting for an e mail saying they are no longer welcome as they dont meet their standards anymore | |||
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"We are members of VA, Xstasia, Jaydees and ourplace for fun and have no problems. I know they have a right to refuse. All i did was simply point out that i felt we looked ok to be accepted especially based on other people that were there that night. it didn't warrant such a reply. If he had of just said we reserve the right to not give a reason i would have been fine. But i am not accepting that and also going so far as to insult my partner who is nothing like he describes and i will send a pic to anyone who asks. I knew it was a difficult place to get in and as has been stated a pic is not the same as the person and personality. " But what's the point of querying it? They say they don't think you're a fit for their club. Why do you want to persuade them otherwise? Why would you want to go to a ciub when the people who are running it don't want you? | |||
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"Ok, so here is my 'pushy' email. IN FACT HERE IS THE WHOLE CHAIN actually only 3 emails. Us Hi, we are planning on coming this Sat and just wanted to make sure our membership is ok? Our first visit was about 6 months ago. Thanks Brian (Roccoscouple) LB Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 5:30 PM To: B tol Subject: Re: Sat Hello Brian, No, I am afraid that is not possible. We emailed you after your attendance in August and explained that our grant of provisional membership was not going to be extended to full membership. I am afraid we feel that you do not meet the minimum standards we maintain here. That email may have gone to ********.com, because that is the email used on that registration. we wish you better luck elsewhere. Us I have just done a search on my DJ account (i keep this account as it is private and therefore the kids don't see it). I cannot find the email you refer to.. In fact in October i emailed you regarding some details about possibly attending one night 7 asked details regarding the style of your live music performer and you answered me positively even giving me a youtube link for the performer. At the end of this email you welcome us if we decided to come. So what aspect of us does not meet the standards? My partner Jennifer is (i feel) and attractive South East Asian woman (recent picture attached) and although I'm not as beautiful as Jenny i don't consider myself hideous looking. I don't think we looked too out of place that evening we attended. The pic of us together was taken at Isle of Wight festival last summer (2018) I repeat we have received no such email. So again we are curious as to why we don't fit. Kind regards Brian LB Thu 1/10/2019, 10:41 AM With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club. We can't wait for our fabulous 2019 parties. Join us, every week, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. " I Agree that if this is all that was exchanged, lb were out of order. A "sorry we don't discuss reasons" response would have sufficed. There's no need to get personal. | |||
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"Did anyone else get a private message from LB asking to clarify our message? Our answer is, like LB’s policy we don’t have to clarify a damb thing. Normal people do exist and they come in all shapes n sizes??? Why not ask the questions on this forum?? " well at least you got an answer I dissdng get a Damn thing. Still getting invites to attend their events though | |||
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"We are members of VA, Xstasia, Jaydees and ourplace for fun and have no problems. I know they have a right to refuse. All i did was simply point out that i felt we looked ok to be accepted especially based on other people that were there that night. it didn't warrant such a reply. If he had of just said we reserve the right to not give a reason i would have been fine. But i am not accepting that and also going so far as to insult my partner who is nothing like he describes and i will send a pic to anyone who asks. I knew it was a difficult place to get in and as has been stated a pic is not the same as the person and personality. But what's the point of querying it? They say they don't think you're a fit for their club. Why do you want to persuade them otherwise? Why would you want to go to a ciub when the people who are running it don't want you? " I think the aim of the thread was to warn others against the place, as even LB themselves have proved today that they are a vile establishment. | |||
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"People have to be gorgeous on the inside or the outside is ugly no matter what standards people keep. The owner having the best laugh since his wife said she loved anal just shows the disrespect he has for people. Answers on a post card to how attractive his inside persona is.... " Indeed, my thoughts upon reading that were along the lines of dodging a bullet in not attempting to attend Le Boudoir a while back when some friends suggested it. Certainly off the list of clubs I'll recommend. | |||
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"I never received the initial email they are claiming was sent and around 6 weeks after we had attended the first time i inquired about attending again and they were fine and gave me a lot of information and welcomed us if we decided to attend. So what had changed????? Like i said a flat sorry not for us and we don't have to tell you why would have been fine. But it wasn't as clear cut as that." I believe they have a differential policy for different events. They might let you in if single guys are invited, but not if it is couples only. The harsh truth is that anyone vaguely female is welcome at a single guy event as what attracts men is the presence of any kind of women. However, on couples nights, the reasoning is that the "attractive" couples will be put off if there are "less attractive" couples there. | |||
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"Ok, so here is my 'pushy' email. IN FACT HERE IS THE WHOLE CHAIN actually only 3 emails. Us Hi, we are planning on coming this Sat and just wanted to make sure our membership is ok? Our first visit was about 6 months ago. Thanks Brian (Roccoscouple) LB Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 5:30 PM To: B tol Subject: Re: Sat Hello Brian, No, I am afraid that is not possible. We emailed you after your attendance in August and explained that our grant of provisional membership was not going to be extended to full membership. I am afraid we feel that you do not meet the minimum standards we maintain here. That email may have gone to ********.com, because that is the email used on that registration. we wish you better luck elsewhere. Us I have just done a search on my DJ account (i keep this account as it is private and therefore the kids don't see it). I cannot find the email you refer to.. In fact in October i emailed you regarding some details about possibly attending one night 7 asked details regarding the style of your live music performer and you answered me positively even giving me a youtube link for the performer. At the end of this email you welcome us if we decided to come. So what aspect of us does not meet the standards? My partner Jennifer is (i feel) and attractive South East Asian woman (recent picture attached) and although I'm not as beautiful as Jenny i don't consider myself hideous looking. I don't think we looked too out of place that evening we attended. The pic of us together was taken at Isle of Wight festival last summer (2018) I repeat we have received no such email. So again we are curious as to why we don't fit. Kind regards Brian LB Thu 1/10/2019, 10:41 AM With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club. We can't wait for our fabulous 2019 parties. Join us, every week, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. I Agree that if this is all that was exchanged, lb were out of order. A "sorry we don't discuss reasons" response would have sufficed. There's no need to get personal. " I agree and would have accepted that | |||
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"Ok, so maintaining a degree of minimum standards constitutes 'elitism'? Then I guess we must be! Sadly, a minority of people feel that no matter how unkempt, lacking in personal grooming or just plain scruffy they are, that they are entitled. Of course, people don't like to be rejected, from his own lengthy correspondence I knew this guy wouldn't. But, he wasn't happy with the club's initial, polite, correspondence, which is why we were forced to be a little more blunt! Our 20,000 registrants and regulars who enjoy the club, support the fact that we DO maintain minimum standards and if that decision offends the sensibilities of some, I must apologise. But, as has been pointed out, there are plenty of venues that are eager to accommodate you and we wish you good luck there. " So why take my and.othwrs money let them.in and then reject them. And have g rejected them STILL send them.invites to attend. Hypocrite | |||
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"I haven't read all the replies but this is shocking. Jaysus!! Is it even legal!?? Yes so long as they aren't discriminating against protected characteristics undevthe equality act I presume. Its a members club. They can decide on who become members " It doesn't even have to be a members club. As long as you are now discriminating on the grounds of a protected characteristic any business can refuse to deal with any person for any reason. | |||
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"We don't have an age restriction, we just think you should look after yourself, be presentable and well groomed. Are we saying that anyone who has contributed to this thread doesn't want that? " In.my case you let.me.jn I was.wearing polished shoes a lean shirt and presses trousers. And.always do dress smart, and still dosnt explain why you took mine and others money and let them in. Dosnt wash pal. Maybe because you are.a nasty piece of work? | |||
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"We don't have an age restriction, we just think you should look after yourself, be presentable and well groomed. Are we saying that anyone who has contributed to this thread doesn't want that? In.my case you let.me.jn I was.wearing polished shoes a lean shirt and presses trousers. And.always do dress smart, and still dosnt explain why you took mine and others money and let them in. Dosnt wash pal. Maybe because you are.a nasty piece of work?" If you say so. But then again, you don't know me do you? so what's the comment worth. NOTHING. | |||
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"we removed the one we know about, but, if you are still getting emails, you must have made multiple registrations with multiple email accounts and we don't know which it is to remove it. Of course, you can always opt out yourself!" You are the ones sending them.abd you are the one who should remove them. And front tell lies about emailing People cancelling their membership when.you clearly do not | |||
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"We don't have an age restriction, we just think you should look after yourself, be presentable and well groomed. Are we saying that anyone who has contributed to this thread doesn't want that? In.my case you let.me.jn I was.wearing polished shoes a lean shirt and presses trousers. And.always do dress smart, and still dosnt explain why you took mine and others money and let them in. Dosnt wash pal. Maybe because you are.a nasty piece of work? If you say so. But then again, you don't know me do you? so what's the comment worth. NOTHING." Well I think the posts you've made here today speak volumes about your personality and the way you conduct yourself Already blocked so I certainly won't be making the mistake of registering anytime soon like you say | |||
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"Up-date email from Le Boudoir Just so you know what you are dealing with.. 'With all due respect, You are overweight and not attractive and your wife was not either. I'm sorry, but you are not the right fit for this club.' Very nice attitude!! So - We will send pics to whoever wants to look and decide for themselves. " Holy shit. That’s disgusting behaviour! | |||
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"A little tale of karma for you..... We were rejected for membership at a well known, selective swinging 'club' which takes it's parties around the country. This was around 9 years ago. The same company approached us to hire our club for an exclusive party 2 years ago. We rejected them and they were pissed. One of my finer moments....lol" Fair play. I had an invite to a similar 'group' years ago on my old solo profile. I'd met what they thought were several attractive women and they suggested I extend the invite to them too. I told them to fuck off. There are many clubs, party organisers and private party hosts that like to select their customers. Some wait to be approached, others approach people themselves. It's easy to say no if they've been contacted by someone they deem 'unfit'. I often wonder how they deal with rejecting people that they themselves have chosen to invite? Of course clubs and individuals have the right to make their own rules as to who they think suitable, based on whatever criteria they choose. Nobody is forced to apply for membership. It's not an entitlement. Of course nothing stops others viewing this as elitist and choosing to avoid these places like the plague. Some will seek these clubs out if their preferences are for the body beautiful. Nothing wrong with that either. One day they won't be deemed suitable either. However...... If you're going to have a policy re shape, age, gender, perceived 'attractiveness' or whatever - you'd best make it crystal clear in your initial contact, be that on a website, application, interview, email, or a big fuck off sign on your door. Otherwise you just make yourself look like cunts. A | |||
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"It's not the rejection, it's the rude manner of the "explanation" and the (frankly off putting) messages in this thread from Le Boudoir themselves.... To which people are objecting. " Absolutely this ^^^ | |||
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" To the OP, for someone who said you can take rejection, you are showing on this thread that you can't However, the E-mail sent from a business( I am assuming off site ) could have been more tactful. I am not sure either party came out good on this." Me bodouir asks you to send a photo and details before allowing you to attend an event. So they already know what you look like prior to you going. You book in at an reception area and they know before you enter how you are dressed. So to allow you in then send you invites to event a then cancel your membership without telling you, and then send rude ignorant messages when you ask why is rude nd unprofessional. Rejection here is not an issue it's the way this club operates that is the issue here. | |||
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" Rejection here is not an issue It is, otherwise he wouldn't be talking about it and sending people pics to show how nice they are. They would just be accepting they were rejected" I'm inclined to agree. I think the pic sending thing comes across to me as very pushy. | |||
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