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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk" Thank you for that! It certainly puts things into perspective for us! Looking at your profile you are both in the published age-range, look stunning and yet still felt ostracised?! I think if we geriatrics turned up the "locals" would run us out of town brandishing flaming torches and pitchforks! (Which would be okay if there is a disused windmill stocked with absinth nearby)!  | |||
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"Also (after research) the fact that they want single men to ring up and arrange a meeting so they can be okayed to enter is a bit weird? I understand why the need to do that, but its still very controlling" If you're a woman and seen some of the weirdos out there you'd understand 
Very few clubs give single men carte blanche to attend, if they did, there'd be throngs at the door thinking they are all going to get laid - they try to balance the numbers. We've been there on a Friday and excellent selection of men, no weirdos following us around. Which was nice
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"Really neagative comments here. The place is great no age limit as far I am aware. I am a member for over 5 years and on my view is one of the best clubs in the country. " Yes, we all have our favourite places. However, the club hostess on her FAB profile (which she clearly states is for her club role and not her personal "meeting" profile) does categorically give an age limit. In fact we could not message her to clarify matters as she has banned all contact from older peeps. When you look at the club's own website it does say 30-50. I hope our enquiry is not causing distress, but when we are faced with a significant distance to drive, with accommodation already booked, it would be a great disappointment to be turned away at the door.  | |||
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"Sorry if this question will seem a little strange, but we have been considering a visit, with very close friends from the Birmingham area, to a club somewhere in between us. We have been a few times to VA, but would like a change. Liberty Elite has come up and it looks good. However, one of the hostesses there who has her "Club Profile" profile on here (Doodlewotsit) states that there is an upper age limit of 45. We have looked at the club's website and it says that the "general" age range is 30-50 which still leaves the four of us out in the car-park. lol Can anyone enlighten us?" You have misunderstood, as simple as that, or she didn't get the point across properly. The upper age limit for new single men to join is 45. Although sometimes changes, no age limit for women or couples. It isn't stuck up in the slightest and you will find is very much like the VA. Similar clientele just slightly more dated surroundings but does have the bonus of lockable rooms. | |||
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"I find the idea of age limits strange. I can understand the 30+ rule as there are many people (mainly men) who would go in on a stag night or something for a laugh and cause issues. But upper age limits for clubs just baffles me. " There isn't a 30+ rule, it's 21 and has been for the 12 years I've been going
Single guys being vetted means you don't get followed around by packs of wanking towel twitchers and in general they are a very nice set of respectful single guys.
The typical age range, is 30-50 but not exclusive.
There is one couple of regulars well into their 70s and quite a few the dark side of 50
It seems cliquey sometimes because there are a lot of regulars that go and are all friends. So if you go and hide in the corner people think you want to be left alone.
Don't hide in a dark corner, or ideally stand at the bar and everybody gets included.
Mature mischief is a great event and is aimed at older club goers. But that doesn't mean other nights aren't just as good for older members. | |||
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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk Thank you for that! It certainly puts things into perspective for us! Looking at your profile you are both in the published age-range, look stunning and yet still felt ostracised?! I think if we geriatrics turned up the "locals" would run us out of town brandishing flaming torches and pitchforks! (Which would be okay if there is a disused windmill stocked with absinth nearby)! "Haven't quickly checked your profile I can guarantee you that you will be by far not the oldest looking people at the club on any night it is open! So just enjoy it. | |||
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"I find the idea of age limits strange. I can understand the 30+ rule as there are many people (mainly men) who would go in on a stag night or something for a laugh and cause issues. But upper age limits for clubs just baffles me. There isn't a 30+ rule, it's 21 and has been for the 12 years I've been going
Single guys being vetted means you don't get followed around by packs of wanking towel twitchers and in general they are a very nice set of respectful single guys.
The typical age range, is 30-50 but not exclusive.
There is one couple of regulars well into their 70s and quite a few the dark side of 50
It seems cliquey sometimes because there are a lot of regulars that go and are all friends. So if you go and hide in the corner people think you want to be left alone.
Don't hide in a dark corner, or ideally stand at the bar and everybody gets included.
Mature mischief is a great event and is aimed at older club goers. But that doesn't mean other nights aren't just as good for older members. "This
It may appear cliquey buts it’s usually a group of friends who met there anyway. It’s such a good club people just go back for more! | |||
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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk" Agree with this. Our exact thoughts | |||
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"Sorry if this question will seem a little strange, but we have been considering a visit, with very close friends from the Birmingham area, to a club somewhere in between us. We have been a few times to VA, but would like a change. Liberty Elite has come up and it looks good. However, one of the hostesses there who has her "Club Profile" profile on here (Doodlewotsit) states that there is an upper age limit of 45. We have looked at the club's website and it says that the "general" age range is 30-50 which still leaves the four of us out in the car-park. lol Can anyone enlighten us?" Hey folks, Doodlewotsit here! I do have a club profile as I work behind the bar (not a hostess).... I don’t mention ages on my profile text at all but I can see that the age range I ask for is 23-45 so I’ve updated accordingly - apologies for any confusion. However, I do receive many messages from couples and single gentleman / women who are outside of the previous age range... I can only suggest you come along and make your own decision about Libs.... Have fun, xx | |||
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"Having been there quite a few times (though not recently) the age range was always pretty much low to high, BUT the last time we went there were quite a few of us who sensed things were changing and that the club MAY have been trying to cultivate younger clientele. This was primarily based on the change in emphasis on music and the opinions of others we know who had been getting the feeling of being less welcome generally. I would have to say from experiences there previously that it was consistently the best place we went. Only going yourself will answer your questions as to whether it's for you. Good luck. " Apologies - I misread this as a VA thread, NOT as being about Liberty Elite. My experience of Libs. has also been really good generally, with no appearance of a specific age range. The only consistent issues there have been surrounding 'entitled' single men thinking they can do what they like without asking. Other than that it's been great. | |||
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"Sorry if this question will seem a little strange, but we have been considering a visit, with very close friends from the Birmingham area, to a club somewhere in between us. We have been a few times to VA, but would like a change. Liberty Elite has come up and it looks good. However, one of the hostesses there who has her "Club Profile" profile on here (Doodlewotsit) states that there is an upper age limit of 45. We have looked at the club's website and it says that the "general" age range is 30-50 which still leaves the four of us out in the car-park. lol Can anyone enlighten us?" yes let's face it you're far too old to have sex in public places now, it comes to us all at some point so we start threads about it  | |||
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"Really neagative comments here. The place is great no age limit as far I am aware. I am a member for over 5 years and on my view is one of the best clubs in the country. " Libs one of the best clubs, good clientele, well stocked bar, great staff, no age limit we ever found. Hollie had no bounds! We were regulars 7 - 5 years ago, great cuck times for me lol | |||
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"Having been there quite a few times (though not recently) the age range was always pretty much low to high, BUT the last time we went there were quite a few of us who sensed things were changing and that the club MAY have been trying to cultivate younger clientele. This was primarily based on the change in emphasis on music and the opinions of others we know who had been getting the feeling of being less welcome generally. I would have to say from experiences there previously that it was consistently the best place we went. Only going yourself will answer your questions as to whether it's for you. Good luck. Apologies - I misread this as a VA thread, NOT as being about Liberty Elite. My experience of Libs. has also been really good generally, with no appearance of a specific age range. The only consistent issues there have been surrounding 'entitled' single men thinking they can do what they like without asking. Other than that it's been great. " Singles was our fun/need Pity hookster blocked single guys as no couple profile now | |||
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" Can anyone enlighten us?yes let's face it you're far too old to have sex in public places now, it comes to us all at some point so we start threads about it "Thank you. That does make it very clear. | |||
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"As long standing members of Liberty Elite we would just like to clarify this age limit discussion. There is a lower age limit of 21 and rightly so in our opinion. There is NO upper limit for couples. There is a restriction on age for NEW single guys wishing to join the club this is currently 50, however there are single guys older than this who visit the club as they joined when in their 40s and continue to renew their memberships. In the frequency asked questions on the website it clearly states the the current age of visiting patrons is between 30 to 50 but people do visit that are younger and older than this. With regards to the above some hosted events attract both younger and older crowds depending on the event type. We believe Liberty Elite is one of the very few clubs in the country that host a party specificity for those aged 40 and older (Mature Mischief) so if anything the club is actively encouraging mature swingers to attend the club. Yes this is on a Wednesday night so doesn’t suit everyone but for financial reasons it isn’t wise for the club to impose any restrictions at weekends. However as regulars at this event it is very popular with an average of about 70 people attending each month and has a really nice atmosphere. As a final observation from us as regulars at Liberty Elite for over 12 years the average age of the clubs members had always been around the mid 40s but that is just a reflection of the swinging scene itself. We hope this clarifies any concerns over age at this club and that people find our input helpful." I have not visited the club but the age limit for single men came across to me as discriminatory. Why 50? What is the rationale? Single women or couples can be 100 and will be accepted? Having an event catered for over 40s makes it right? I know few men on their 50s and 60s who are very fit, great lovers with impeccable manners who will make a lot of men on their 20s or 30s jealous. Just remember if I recall this the club that 3-4 years ago decided to unilaterally cancel single men membership, pointless to say the policy did not last. On my view very hypocritical behaviour. So thank for your mature event I rather go to a place where you will be welcome by who you are and not on your birth certificate. | |||
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"I've always wanted to visit Liberty Elite and had been recommended to try it by several people (couples and singles). I called to enquire about single gentleman's membership a few months ago. The first question I was asked before anything else was "How old are you?" "51" I answered. "I'm sorry but our upper age limit for new single gentlemen is 49" came the reply. I was so taken aback I didn't take it any further. I was told I could try the Mature Mischief event, but being a Wednesday evening, that's less convenient. I'm not exactly unfamiliar with clubs and certainly know how to behave. I'm a member at VA, Chams and Jaydees. I'd like to think I'm well verified and would pass any "screening" that might happen. Is there an age limit? Probably not if you're already a member but you can draw your own conclusions from my experience." Wow 49 that's a bit harsh - not very impressed with that policy ! Definitely ageism  | |||
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Hope you go and hope you enjoy it . Xx | |||
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"I've always wanted to visit Liberty Elite and had been recommended to try it by several people (couples and singles). I called to enquire about single gentleman's membership a few months ago. The first question I was asked before anything else was "How old are you?" "51" I answered. "I'm sorry but our upper age limit for new single gentlemen is 49" came the reply. I was so taken aback I didn't take it any further. I was told I could try the Mature Mischief event, but being a Wednesday evening, that's less convenient. I'm not exactly unfamiliar with clubs and certainly know how to behave. I'm a member at VA, Chams and Jaydees. I'd like to think I'm well verified and would pass any "screening" that might happen. Is there an age limit? Probably not if you're already a member but you can draw your own conclusions from my experience. Wow 49 that's a bit harsh - not very impressed with that policy ! Definitely ageism "Hardly ageism As a youngish women who enjoys single guys I would hate to go to a club full of older men old enough to be my dad! 
Bear in mind that rule only applies to new gents calling up aswell
I’ve attended several times and there is gents over 50!!
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"I've always wanted to visit Liberty Elite and had been recommended to try it by several people (couples and singles). I called to enquire about single gentleman's membership a few months ago. The first question I was asked before anything else was "How old are you?" "51" I answered. "I'm sorry but our upper age limit for new single gentlemen is 49" came the reply. I was so taken aback I didn't take it any further. I was told I could try the Mature Mischief event, but being a Wednesday evening, that's less convenient. I'm not exactly unfamiliar with clubs and certainly know how to behave. I'm a member at VA, Chams and Jaydees. I'd like to think I'm well verified and would pass any "screening" that might happen. Is there an age limit? Probably not if you're already a member but you can draw your own conclusions from my experience. Wow 49 that's a bit harsh - not very impressed with that policy ! Definitely ageism
Hardly ageism
As a youngish women who enjoys single guys I would hate to go to a club full of older men old enough to be my dad!
Bear in mind that rule only applies to new gents calling up aswell
I’ve attended several times and there is gents over 50!!
J x "I think you will find under the equality act that's exactly what it is. | |||
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"I've always wanted to visit Liberty Elite and had been recommended to try it by several people (couples and singles). I called to enquire about single gentleman's membership a few months ago. The first question I was asked before anything else was "How old are you?" "51" I answered. "I'm sorry but our upper age limit for new single gentlemen is 49" came the reply. I was so taken aback I didn't take it any further. I was told I could try the Mature Mischief event, but being a Wednesday evening, that's less convenient. I'm not exactly unfamiliar with clubs and certainly know how to behave. I'm a member at VA, Chams and Jaydees. I'd like to think I'm well verified and would pass any "screening" that might happen. Is there an age limit? Probably not if you're already a member but you can draw your own conclusions from my experience. Wow 49 that's a bit harsh - not very impressed with that policy ! Definitely ageism
Hardly ageism
As a youngish women who enjoys single guys I would hate to go to a club full of older men old enough to be my dad!
Bear in mind that rule only applies to new gents calling up aswell
I’ve attended several times and there is gents over 50!!
J x "Well as private club Liberty is not abide to equality laws which is fine. However, I think the point here is related to new members not current ones. People are living longer and 50 today can’t be hardly seen as old. Besides how many youngish women would no be tempted by a Brad Pitt, a George Cloney or a Johnny Deep all over 50. By not having the upper limit for couples or females I wonder if the same reasoning does not apply to young men who certainly would not be happy paying over 50 quid to be on a place full of grannies!!! | |||
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"I've always wanted to visit Liberty Elite and had been recommended to try it by several people (couples and singles). I called to enquire about single gentleman's membership a few months ago. The first question I was asked before anything else was "How old are you?" "51" I answered. "I'm sorry but our upper age limit for new single gentlemen is 49" came the reply. I was so taken aback I didn't take it any further. I was told I could try the Mature Mischief event, but being a Wednesday evening, that's less convenient. I'm not exactly unfamiliar with clubs and certainly know how to behave. I'm a member at VA, Chams and Jaydees. I'd like to think I'm well verified and would pass any "screening" that might happen. Is there an age limit? Probably not if you're already a member but you can draw your own conclusions from my experience. Wow 49 that's a bit harsh - not very impressed with that policy ! Definitely ageism
Hardly ageism
As a youngish women who enjoys single guys I would hate to go to a club full of older men old enough to be my dad!
Bear in mind that rule only applies to new gents calling up aswell
I’ve attended several times and there is gents over 50!!
J x
Well as private club Liberty is not abide to equality laws which is fine.
However, I think the point here is related to new members not current ones. People are living longer and 50 today can’t be hardly seen as old. Besides how many youngish women would no be tempted by a Brad Pitt, a George Cloney or a Johnny Deep all over 50. By not having the upper limit for couples or females
I wonder if the same reasoning does not apply to young men who certainly would not be happy paying over 50 quid to be on a place full of grannies!!! "I assure you that the equality act definitely applies here. | |||
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"I've always wanted to visit Liberty Elite and had been recommended to try it by several people (couples and singles). I called to enquire about single gentleman's membership a few months ago. The first question I was asked before anything else was "How old are you?" "51" I answered. "I'm sorry but our upper age limit for new single gentlemen is 49" came the reply. I was so taken aback I didn't take it any further. I was told I could try the Mature Mischief event, but being a Wednesday evening, that's less convenient. I'm not exactly unfamiliar with clubs and certainly know how to behave. I'm a member at VA, Chams and Jaydees. I'd like to think I'm well verified and would pass any "screening" that might happen. Is there an age limit? Probably not if you're already a member but you can draw your own conclusions from my experience. Wow 49 that's a bit harsh - not very impressed with that policy ! Definitely ageism
Hardly ageism
As a youngish women who enjoys single guys I would hate to go to a club full of older men old enough to be my dad!
Bear in mind that rule only applies to new gents calling up aswell
I’ve attended several times and there is gents over 50!!
J x
Well as private club Liberty is not abide to equality laws which is fine.
However, I think the point here is related to new members not current ones. People are living longer and 50 today can’t be hardly seen as old. Besides how many youngish women would no be tempted by a Brad Pitt, a George Cloney or a Johnny Deep all over 50. By not having the upper limit for couples or females
I wonder if the same reasoning does not apply to young men who certainly would not be happy paying over 50 quid to be on a place full of grannies!!!
I assure you that the equality act definitely applies here."As it's a private members club you'll find it doesn't. Hence the reason single guys can be charged more then single women. | |||
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"I've always wanted to visit Liberty Elite and had been recommended to try it by several people (couples and singles). I called to enquire about single gentleman's membership a few months ago. The first question I was asked before anything else was "How old are you?" "51" I answered. "I'm sorry but our upper age limit for new single gentlemen is 49" came the reply. I was so taken aback I didn't take it any further. I was told I could try the Mature Mischief event, but being a Wednesday evening, that's less convenient. I'm not exactly unfamiliar with clubs and certainly know how to behave. I'm a member at VA, Chams and Jaydees. I'd like to think I'm well verified and would pass any "screening" that might happen. Is there an age limit? Probably not if you're already a member but you can draw your own conclusions from my experience. Wow 49 that's a bit harsh - not very impressed with that policy ! Definitely ageism
Hardly ageism
As a youngish women who enjoys single guys I would hate to go to a club full of older men old enough to be my dad!
Bear in mind that rule only applies to new gents calling up aswell
I’ve attended several times and there is gents over 50!!
J x
Well as private club Liberty is not abide to equality laws which is fine.
However, I think the point here is related to new members not current ones. People are living longer and 50 today can’t be hardly seen as old. Besides how many youngish women would no be tempted by a Brad Pitt, a George Cloney or a Johnny Deep all over 50. By not having the upper limit for couples or females
I wonder if the same reasoning does not apply to young men who certainly would not be happy paying over 50 quid to be on a place full of grannies!!!
I assure you that the equality act definitely applies here.
As it's a private members club you'll find it doesn't.
Hence the reason single guys can be charged more then single women.
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"Really neagative comments here. The place is great no age limit as far I am aware. I am a member for over 5 years and on my view is one of the best clubs in the country. Yes, we all have our favourite places. However, the club hostess on her FAB profile (which she clearly states is for her club role and not her personal "meeting" profile) does categorically give an age limit. In fact we could not message her to clarify matters as she has banned all contact from older peeps. When you look at the club's own website it does say 30-50. I hope our enquiry is not causing distress, but when we are faced with a significant distance to drive, with accommodation already booked, it would be a great disappointment to be turned away at the door. "We also have heard this about VA, 30_50 is fine but older than that and you get the look, and as such going to try jaydees instead. Xx | |||
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"Really neagative comments here. The place is great no age limit as far I am aware. I am a member for over 5 years and on my view is one of the best clubs in the country. Yes, we all have our favourite places. However, the club hostess on her FAB profile (which she clearly states is for her club role and not her personal "meeting" profile) does categorically give an age limit. In fact we could not message her to clarify matters as she has banned all contact from older peeps. When you look at the club's own website it does say 30-50. I hope our enquiry is not causing distress, but when we are faced with a significant distance to drive, with accommodation already booked, it would be a great disappointment to be turned away at the door.
We also have heard this about VA, 30_50 is fine but older than that and you get the look, and as such going to try jaydees instead. Xx"You've heard it but it isn't true. But why let that stand ntgecway of a good rumour. 50% plus of the VA regulars are over 50, as are Liberties, and I've known most of them since they were early 40s. Where do these rumours start, and even worse gain traction. | |||
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"We have attended Libs regularly in the last few months and have seen couples of all ages and on different nights. We've never seen anyone treated disrespectfully at Libs. Quite the opposite. We like attending because we find it such a sociable place. We have also gotten to know a few of the staff there quite well and we know they are not the type of people to be disrespectful because of the age of a couple. If a club has a rule about the age of single males joining then surely that should be considered from both angles. Perhaps the club attracts couples that don't want the attention of a lot of older single guys. If this is the case the club is successfully saving the time and money of the older single men. Although some people look on this negatively, stopping older single men joining. Perhaps in some cases it's best to trust the judgement of the people who run the club to know their members and what it is they want. Just a thought x" That's a very good point. If you're a single male in your late 50s to 60s how would you feel if a club allowed you in took your money and signed you up for membership knowing you wouldn't be stuitable for the club but happily took your money each visit. Liberty Elite isn't a numbers through doors type of club. Hence the reason for its strict rules and prices. Some people love it. Some hate it. At least it gives people a different type of club. | |||
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"You've heard it but it isn't true. But why let that stand ntgecway of a good rumour. 50% plus of the VA regulars are over 50, as are Liberties, and I've known most of them since they were early 40s. Where do these rumours start, and even worse gain traction. " Well said for whatever reason “some” people on here love to try and do the clubs an injustice, and even worse some of those people have never even visited a club. It’s all a bit silly really as most clubs make very little profit and the club owners keep the clubs open to provide a safe, secure and pleasant environment for the swinging community. Having managed a club in the past we know how much effort is involved in providing a quality service, give the club owners a break | |||
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"We have attended Libs regularly in the last few months and have seen couples of all ages and on different nights. We've never seen anyone treated disrespectfully at Libs. Quite the opposite. We like attending because we find it such a sociable place. We have also gotten to know a few of the staff there quite well and we know they are not the type of people to be disrespectful because of the age of a couple. If a club has a rule about the age of single males joining then surely that should be considered from both angles. Perhaps the club attracts couples that don't want the attention of a lot of older single guys. If this is the case the club is successfully saving the time and money of the older single men. Although some people look on this negatively, stopping older single men joining. Perhaps in some cases it's best to trust the judgement of the people who run the club to know their members and what it is they want. Just a thought x That's a very good point. If you're a single male in your late 50s to 60s how would you feel if a club allowed you in took your money and signed you up for membership knowing you wouldn't be stuitable for the club but happily took your money each visit. Liberty Elite isn't a numbers through doors type of club. Hence the reason for its strict rules and prices. Some people love it. Some hate it. At least it gives people a different type of club. " Well I am struggling to understand what makes a single man on his 50s and 60s unsuitable and a female or couple on the same age range suitable...  | |||
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"We have attended Libs regularly in the last few months and have seen couples of all ages and on different nights. We've never seen anyone treated disrespectfully at Libs. Quite the opposite. We like attending because we find it such a sociable place. We have also gotten to know a few of the staff there quite well and we know they are not the type of people to be disrespectful because of the age of a couple. If a club has a rule about the age of single males joining then surely that should be considered from both angles. Perhaps the club attracts couples that don't want the attention of a lot of older single guys. If this is the case the club is successfully saving the time and money of the older single men. Although some people look on this negatively, stopping older single men joining. Perhaps in some cases it's best to trust the judgement of the people who run the club to know their members and what it is they want. Just a thought x That's a very good point. If you're a single male in your late 50s to 60s how would you feel if a club allowed you in took your money and signed you up for membership knowing you wouldn't be stuitable for the club but happily took your money each visit. Liberty Elite isn't a numbers through doors type of club. Hence the reason for its strict rules and prices. Some people love it. Some hate it. At least it gives people a different type of club. Well I am struggling to understand what makes a single man on his 50s and 60s unsuitable and a female or couple on the same age range suitable... "If the club already has a good number of single guys in their 50s to 60s | |||
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"We have attended Libs regularly in the last few months and have seen couples of all ages and on different nights. We've never seen anyone treated disrespectfully at Libs. Quite the opposite. We like attending because we find it such a sociable place. We have also gotten to know a few of the staff there quite well and we know they are not the type of people to be disrespectful because of the age of a couple. If a club has a rule about the age of single males joining then surely that should be considered from both angles. Perhaps the club attracts couples that don't want the attention of a lot of older single guys. If this is the case the club is successfully saving the time and money of the older single men. Although some people look on this negatively, stopping older single men joining. Perhaps in some cases it's best to trust the judgement of the people who run the club to know their members and what it is they want. Just a thought x That's a very good point. If you're a single male in your late 50s to 60s how would you feel if a club allowed you in took your money and signed you up for membership knowing you wouldn't be stuitable for the club but happily took your money each visit. Liberty Elite isn't a numbers through doors type of club. Hence the reason for its strict rules and prices. Some people love it. Some hate it. At least it gives people a different type of club. Well I am struggling to understand what makes a single man on his 50s and 60s unsuitable and a female or couple on the same age range suitable... "I'm struggling to understand why it bothers you so much, just go elsewhere. You really are coming across as just stirring up shit for the sake of it. Not the sort of person I would ever want to see in any of the clubs we attend. If you've got nothing but negativity about one club there are dozens of others, some full of old people who don't care about age or if people look after themselves. And everything in between that and the _hic events aimed at the 20+ year old. So other than a pretty pathetic personal agenda why keep beating the same dead horse. If you feel that strongly come along one Friday night and state your case in person rather than trying to wind up others to damage somebodies business. | |||
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"Really neagative comments here. The place is great no age limit as far I am aware. I am a member for over 5 years and on my view is one of the best clubs in the country. Yes, we all have our favourite places. However, the club hostess on her FAB profile (which she clearly states is for her club role and not her personal "meeting" profile) does categorically give an age limit. In fact we could not message her to clarify matters as she has banned all contact from older peeps. When you look at the club's own website it does say 30-50. I hope our enquiry is not causing distress, but when we are faced with a significant distance to drive, with accommodation already booked, it would be a great disappointment to be turned away at the door.
We also have heard this about VA, 30_50 is fine but older than that and you get the look, and as such going to try jaydees instead. Xx
You've heard it but it isn't true. But why let that stand ntgecway of a good rumour. 50% plus of the VA regulars are over 50, as are Liberties, and I've known most of them since they were early 40s.
Where do these rumours start, and even worse gain traction. "On here mostly but if your travelling 150 ish miles and paying £100 to come and stay over then it is unfortunate but I air on the side of caution to save precious time and money. No disrespect meant but that's being honest. | |||
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"Really neagative comments here. The place is great no age limit as far I am aware. I am a member for over 5 years and on my view is one of the best clubs in the country. Yes, we all have our favourite places. However, the club hostess on her FAB profile (which she clearly states is for her club role and not her personal "meeting" profile) does categorically give an age limit. In fact we could not message her to clarify matters as she has banned all contact from older peeps. When you look at the club's own website it does say 30-50. I hope our enquiry is not causing distress, but when we are faced with a significant distance to drive, with accommodation already booked, it would be a great disappointment to be turned away at the door.
We also have heard this about VA, 30_50 is fine but older than that and you get the look, and as such going to try jaydees instead. Xx
You've heard it but it isn't true. But why let that stand ntgecway of a good rumour. 50% plus of the VA regulars are over 50, as are Liberties, and I've known most of them since they were early 40s.
Where do these rumours start, and even worse gain traction.
On here mostly but if your travelling 150 ish miles and paying £100 to come and stay over then it is unfortunate but I air on the side of caution to save precious time and money. No disrespect meant but that's being honest. "You had me for a bit there err,
But yes I can understand that, however be assured those rumours are true, however that doesn't protect against you turning up and the crowd is wrong for you that night or the club is quiet.
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" Where do these rumours start, and even worse gain traction. On here mostly but if your travelling 150 ish miles and paying £100 to come and stay over then it is unfortunate but I air on the side of caution to save precious time and money. No disrespect meant but that's being honest. " At last! Someone who has actually read our first post! This is the reason we asked the question in the first place. Thanks to all who joined the conversation. It has been quite an education! I am sorry that there have been some negative comments and, to those of you who thought it opportune to contact us privately to tell us that we were not welcome at Liberty Elite by virtue of "having stirred up a hornet's nest" we thank you too. We totally accept that everyone will have their favourite club, just as we all have our favourite drink, cut of meat, flower, car, toothpaste. Our question was simply to clarify the implied age limit gleaned from checking out the club barmaid's profile (which Doodlewhatsit has now amended). We did not wish any ill-will, arguments nor insults. However, in light of what has been said here and in private responses, we accept that we and our friends of a similar age would not be welcomed at the club. Maybe it is time for a moderator to close this thread? Happy fabbing folks! | |||
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"We have attended Libs regularly in the last few months and have seen couples of all ages and on different nights. We've never seen anyone treated disrespectfully at Libs. Quite the opposite. We like attending because we find it such a sociable place. We have also gotten to know a few of the staff there quite well and we know they are not the type of people to be disrespectful because of the age of a couple. If a club has a rule about the age of single males joining then surely that should be considered from both angles. Perhaps the club attracts couples that don't want the attention of a lot of older single guys. If this is the case the club is successfully saving the time and money of the older single men. Although some people look on this negatively, stopping older single men joining. Perhaps in some cases it's best to trust the judgement of the people who run the club to know their members and what it is they want. Just a thought x That's a very good point. If you're a single male in your late 50s to 60s how would you feel if a club allowed you in took your money and signed you up for membership knowing you wouldn't be stuitable for the club but happily took your money each visit. Liberty Elite isn't a numbers through doors type of club. Hence the reason for its strict rules and prices. Some people love it. Some hate it. At least it gives people a different type of club. Well I am struggling to understand what makes a single man on his 50s and 60s unsuitable and a female or couple on the same age range suitable...
I'm struggling to understand why it bothers you so much, just go elsewhere. You really are coming across as just stirring up shit for the sake of it.
Not the sort of person I would ever want to see in any of the clubs we attend.
If you've got nothing but negativity about one club there are dozens of others, some full of old people who don't care about age or if people look after themselves. And everything in between that and the _hic events aimed at the 20+ year old.
So other than a pretty pathetic personal agenda why keep beating the same dead horse.
If you feel that strongly come along one Friday night and state your case in person rather than trying to wind up others to damage somebodies business. "I've read through this the oast few days and read through again and the negativity hasn't been coming from the OP but from other who seem to be misreading comments and having a go themselves. Even your comments have been less than helpful in your own cause in trying to defend. Your attitude along with others don't help to give confidence that there would be a good reception but seem to give support to those who felt less welcome. I think you've not helped the cause. | |||
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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk" he’s a young 80 it’s a well done out and respectful club,it’s not the average club it’s a good night and it’s good to see effort made. | |||
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"Omg this is an image driven club........ No old fogies....... Loving it....... Passport to gain entry I suppose all in the name of sex " WRONG ..... and again from someone who has probably never visited Libs | |||
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"We have attended Libs regularly in the last few months and have seen couples of all ages and on different nights. We've never seen anyone treated disrespectfully at Libs. Quite the opposite. We like attending because we find it such a sociable place. We have also gotten to know a few of the staff there quite well and we know they are not the type of people to be disrespectful because of the age of a couple. If a club has a rule about the age of single males joining then surely that should be considered from both angles. Perhaps the club attracts couples that don't want the attention of a lot of older single guys. If this is the case the club is successfully saving the time and money of the older single men. Although some people look on this negatively, stopping older single men joining. Perhaps in some cases it's best to trust the judgement of the people who run the club to know their members and what it is they want. Just a thought x That's a very good point. If you're a single male in your late 50s to 60s how would you feel if a club allowed you in took your money and signed you up for membership knowing you wouldn't be stuitable for the club but happily took your money each visit. Liberty Elite isn't a numbers through doors type of club. Hence the reason for its strict rules and prices. Some people love it. Some hate it. At least it gives people a different type of club. Well I am struggling to understand what makes a single man on his 50s and 60s unsuitable and a female or couple on the same age range suitable...
I'm struggling to understand why it bothers you so much, just go elsewhere. You really are coming across as just stirring up shit for the sake of it.
Not the sort of person I would ever want to see in any of the clubs we attend.
If you've got nothing but negativity about one club there are dozens of others, some full of old people who don't care about age or if people look after themselves. And everything in between that and the _hic events aimed at the 20+ year old.
So other than a pretty pathetic personal agenda why keep beating the same dead horse.
If you feel that strongly come along one Friday night and state your case in person rather than trying to wind up others to damage somebodies business.
I've read through this the oast few days and read through again and the negativity hasn't been coming from the OP but from other who seem to be misreading comments and having a go themselves. Even your comments have been less than helpful in your own cause in trying to defend. Your attitude along with others don't help to give confidence that there would be a good reception but seem to give support to those who felt less welcome. I think you've not helped the cause."I'm not trying to help the cause. The people who have been moaning and whining I hope aren't welcome, not interested in seeing negative people there at all. So I'm not trying to convince them otherwise, quite the opposite, please stay away, just correcting the various lies and half truths as they get regurgitated by people with an axe to grind. | |||
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" Where do these rumours start, and even worse gain traction. On here mostly but if your travelling 150 ish miles and paying £100 to come and stay over then it is unfortunate but I air on the side of caution to save precious time and money. No disrespect meant but that's being honest. At last! Someone who has actually read our first post! This is the reason we asked the question in the first place. Thanks to all who joined the conversation. It has been quite an education! I am sorry that there have been some negative comments and, to those of you who thought it opportune to contact us privately to tell us that we were not welcome at Liberty Elite by virtue of "having stirred up a hornet's nest" we thank you too. We totally accept that everyone will have their favourite club, just as we all have our favourite drink, cut of meat, flower, car, toothpaste. Our question was simply to clarify the implied age limit gleaned from checking out the club barmaid's profile (which Doodlewhatsit has now amended). We did not wish any ill-will, arguments nor insults. However, in light of what has been said here and in private responses, we accept that we and our friends of a similar age would not be welcomed at the club. Maybe it is time for a moderator to close this thread? Happy fabbing folks!" That's a shame, and you couldn't be more wrong, having looked at your profile you would be almost the stereotypical attendees. But if you aren't comfortable at taking the risk I can certainly understand that. There's lots of clubs we would like to try, xtasia for example, but why go all that way and take a chance when we know we'll have a great night at chameleons. Same scenario I guess. | |||
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"Having been there quite a few times (though not recently) the age range was always pretty much low to high, BUT the last time we went there were quite a few of us who sensed things were changing and that the club MAY have been trying to cultivate younger clientele. This was primarily based on the change in emphasis on music and the opinions of others we know who had been getting the feeling of being less welcome generally. I would have to say from experiences there previously that it was consistently the best place we went. Only going yourself will answer your questions as to whether it's for you. Good luck. Apologies - I misread this as a VA thread, NOT as being about Liberty Elite. My experience of Libs. has also been really good generally, with no appearance of a specific age range. The only consistent issues there have been surrounding 'entitled' single men thinking they can do what they like without asking. Other than that it's been great. Singles was our fun/need Pity hookster blocked single guys as no couple profile now" Apologies for that - only did so as I'm not interested in men on their own. Always been happy to play with couples as a straight man. I was part of a couple that occasionally went to Libs. and always had a great time. Please feel free to contact me on Kik (ElHookster), or reply on the thread as to how to get in touch. All the best. | |||
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"Having been there quite a few times (though not recently) the age range was always pretty much low to high, BUT the last time we went there were quite a few of us who sensed things were changing and that the club MAY have been trying to cultivate younger clientele. This was primarily based on the change in emphasis on music and the opinions of others we know who had been getting the feeling of being less welcome generally. I would have to say from experiences there previously that it was consistently the best place we went. Only going yourself will answer your questions as to whether it's for you. Good luck. Apologies - I misread this as a VA thread, NOT as being about Liberty Elite. My experience of Libs. has also been really good generally, with no appearance of a specific age range. The only consistent issues there have been surrounding 'entitled' single men thinking they can do what they like without asking. Other than that it's been great. Singles was our fun/need Pity hookster blocked single guys as no couple profile now Apologies for that - only did so as I'm not interested in men on their own. Always been happy to play with couples as a straight man. I was part of a couple that occasionally went to Libs. and always had a great time. Please feel free to contact me on Kik (ElHookster), or reply on the thread as to how to get in touch. All the best. " Don't use KIK anymore. here (change settings?), email or whats app only damnnnn | |||
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"I find the idea of age limits strange. I can understand the 30+ rule as there are many people (mainly men) who would go in on a stag night or something for a laugh and cause issues. But upper age limits for clubs just baffles me. " I don't see anything wrong with saying 30+ were a younger couple and l people moan at us for wanting to host parties for younger people, I mean if the party hosts don't want a certain group because of there age it's up to them, same with race preferences really... people shouldn't worry I don't think it's personal | |||
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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk" Went to mature madness Never met such a bunch of stuck up tw**s in our life I communicated this to the organisers ... | |||
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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk Went to mature madness Never met such a bunch of stuck up tw**s in our life I communicated this to the organisers ..." Thanks It’s one of my favourite events. Maybe, just like I avoid particular clubs/events it just wasn’t for you? | |||
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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk Went to mature madness Never met such a bunch of stuck up tw**s in our life I communicated this to the organisers ..." Seriously, that is surprising only been once, but I've known a lot of the attendees for a great number of years, and not a single one of them would I call stuck up. Quite the opposite in fact. Maybe just didn't suit you, can't comment as I wasn't there. Will be next week though. | |||
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"There is no age limit, the guy who owns it is about 98.. Libs is the most stuck up place we have been too and would never go bk Went to mature madness Never met such a bunch of stuck up tw**s in our life I communicated this to the organisers ..." Libs isn't for everyone and that's one of the reasons it's so popular. | |||
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" Went to mature madness Never met such a bunch of stuck up tw**s in our life I communicated this to the organisers ..." Yes you did make us aware that you had a bad experience on the night you came along to Mature Mischief. And as you may remember we were truly shocked by what you told us as 99.9% of all who attend come back again and again to Mature Mischief making it a very relaxed and friendly atmosphere. We also offered you a free entry to try MM again in the future as we are convinced that what you experienced was certainly not a normal experience of our parties and we hoped that you would take us up on the offer and prove us right, sadly the offer was declined. You can’t please everyone but we do go out of our way to try, it’s quite sad to read this especially as we did all we could to remedy the situation. | |||
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" Went to mature madness Never met such a bunch of stuck up tw**s in our life I communicated this to the organisers ... Yes you did make us aware that you had a bad experience on the night you came along to Mature Mischief. And as you may remember we were truly shocked by what you told us as 99.9% of all who attend come back again and again to Mature Mischief making it a very relaxed and friendly atmosphere. We also offered you a free entry to try MM again in the future as we are convinced that what you experienced was certainly not a normal experience of our parties and we hoped that you would take us up on the offer and prove us right, sadly the offer was declined. You can’t please everyone but we do go out of our way to try, it’s quite sad to read this especially as we did all we could to remedy the situation. " Yes you did .. fair play to you Libs is a lovely club.. clean and immaculate However a club is only as good as its members... | |||
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"Yes you did .. fair play to you Libs is a lovely club.. clean and immaculate However a club is only as good as its members..." Your statement is very true, we have been members of Libs for 12 years ourselves. One point to remember is that during hosted events such as Mature Mischief at leat half of the people that attend are not Libs members they are Fab’ers just like yourselves so there is at least a 50% chance that whoever you had issue with on your visit might have not heve been Libs members they could quite possibly have been Fab guests. | |||
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" Went to mature madness Never met such a bunch of stuck up tw**s in our life I communicated this to the organisers ... Yes you did make us aware that you had a bad experience on the night you came along to Mature Mischief. And as you may remember we were truly shocked by what you told us as 99.9% of all who attend come back again and again to Mature Mischief making it a very relaxed and friendly atmosphere. We also offered you a free entry to try MM again in the future as we are convinced that what you experienced was certainly not a normal experience of our parties and we hoped that you would take us up on the offer and prove us right, sadly the offer was declined. You can’t please everyone but we do go out of our way to try, it’s quite sad to read this especially as we did all we could to remedy the situation. Yes you did .. fair play to you Libs is a lovely club.. clean and immaculate However a club is only as good as its members..." What gave you the impression they were stuck up? | |||
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"Sorry if this question will seem a little strange, but we have been considering a visit, with very close friends from the Birmingham area, to a club somewhere in between us. We have been a few times to VA, but would like a change. Liberty Elite has come up and it looks good. However, one of the hostesses there who has her "Club Profile" profile on here (Doodlewotsit) states that there is an upper age limit of 45. We have looked at the club's website and it says that the "general" age range is 30-50 which still leaves the four of us out in the car-park. lol Can anyone enlighten us?" We've enjoyed libs the two times we have been, similar kind of feel to VA we think which is our favourite club. Been a mixture of ages there. | |||
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"Just to clarify why we found it stuck up, we we're members and had been to libs 4 times, then one morning out of the blue we received a letter stating our membership has been terminated and we are not welcome bk lol, after trying to contact them to see what the problem was we we're just blatantly ignored, no explanation or anything, this to us is just rude and stuck up.... On the flip side, we're not too bothered as libs have been known to have given out members private details, so there data protection is a sham "Ah so you do have an axe to grind, that explains it. The club makes an administrative error and from that you decide to accuse all the attendees of being stuck up, what a pleasant logical thought process. Based on that it would be great if you avoided going again, or even any other clubs where one old man's mistake causes you to make a judgement on a whole group of people. How utterly bizarre. John is a very successful lovely old guy who is a bit old fashioned and getting on a bit. If you complained to him by email he probably missed it or deleted it, if it was up to him he wouldn't bother with any of this new stuff. But actually he does OK. But to then extrapolate, even if he did choose to ignore your, assumedly aggressive communication, to extrapolate that into the most stuck up bunch of clubbers ever only leaves one or two people liking exactly that. | |||
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"Just to clarify why we found it stuck up, we we're members and had been to libs 4 times, then one morning out of the blue we received a letter stating our membership has been terminated and we are not welcome bk lol, after trying to contact them to see what the problem was we we're just blatantly ignored, no explanation or anything, this to us is just rude and stuck up.... On the flip side, we're not too bothered as libs have been known to have given out members private details, so there data protection is a sham
Ah so you do have an axe to grind, that explains it.
The club makes an administrative error and from that you decide to accuse all the attendees of being stuck up, what a pleasant logical thought process.
Based on that it would be great if you avoided going again, or even any other clubs where one old man's mistake causes you to make a judgement on a whole group of people. How utterly bizarre.
John is a very successful lovely old guy who is a bit old fashioned and getting on a bit. If you complained to him by email he probably missed it or deleted it, if it was up to him he wouldn't bother with any of this new stuff. But actually he does OK.
But to then extrapolate, even if he did choose to ignore your, assumedly aggressive communication, to extrapolate that into the most stuck up bunch of clubbers ever only leaves one or two people liking exactly that.
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"Maybe they should have someone running it who knows what they are doing When John opened Libs in 1999 it was pretty much the only swingers club in the U.K. all the other clubs have come about as a result of John’s hard work and determination over the years to promote the existence of swingers clubs so we find your comment just plain rude and offensive! Plus we know for a fact that if a membership has been revoked it will be for a serious breach of the club rules or club etiquette, only a handful of memberships have been revoked over the 18 years the club has existed and always for the safety of the other members. " Surely they deserved an expanation , i find that very rude | |||
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"Crazy!... This thread isn’t even on topic anymore, for some reason it’s just “jumped on” by anyone with an axe to grind with Lib’s, most of whom have never been to the club and the rest “tried it” and for whatever reason it wasn’t for them. Most of the negative content is pure speculation, rumour and quite frankly “nonsense”. This silly pre-conception that is out there about members being “stuck-up” is pure madness, I have been a single guy member for many years and never met any stuck-up people, far from it, warm, inviting friendly people have always been my experience at any Libs night. One thing that the axe swinging individuals don’t realise is that the vast majority of Lib’s members are also members of other clubs, Chameleons, Vanilla Alternative and New Paradise being the most popular due to location so are they only stuck-up when they visit Libs and not stuck-up when they visit the other clubs?, I think not personally. And as the hosts of Mature Mischief rightly point out a few comments above there are as many hosted events run at Lib’s as member only nights so there is a very good chance that at least half the people attending are your fellow Fab’ers so are your fellow Fab’ers stuck-up only when they visit Libs?, again I think not personally. Now do you see why my opening comment was CRAZY!" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said was probably the most sensible thing I have read on this thread | |||
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"I have no axe to grind i have never been , i just find it rude and ok he may have done a lot for swingers clubs but its not 1999 anymore and things have moved on " If you have never been to Libs then you are basing your comments on those using this thread who have an axe to grind, effectively helping them to swing it! Like Onelifelivelife said a few comments above CRAZY! | |||
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"I have no axe to grind i have never been , i just find it rude and ok he may have done a lot for swingers clubs but its not 1999 anymore and things have moved on If you have never been to Libs then you are basing your comments on those using this thread who have an axe to grind, effectively helping them to swing it! Like Onelifelivelife said a few comments above CRAZY!" As i have said its an open forum , i am allowed to add to it | |||
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"I have no axe to grind i have never been , i just find it rude and ok he may have done a lot for swingers clubs but its not 1999 anymore and things have moved on If you have never been to Libs then you are basing your comments on those using this thread who have an axe to grind, effectively helping them to swing it! Like Onelifelivelife said a few comments above CRAZY! As i have said its an open forum , i am allowed to add to it" Yes of course open forum freedom speech etc but you’ve never even attended the club before
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"Just to clarify why we found it stuck up, we we're members and had been to libs 4 times, then one morning out of the blue we received a letter stating our membership has been terminated and we are not welcome bk lol, after trying to contact them to see what the problem was we we're just blatantly ignored, no explanation or anything, this to us is just rude and stuck up.... On the flip side, we're not too bothered as libs have been known to have given out members private details, so there data protection is a sham
Ah so you do have an axe to grind, that explains it.
The club makes an administrative error and from that you decide to accuse all the attendees of being stuck up, what a pleasant logical thought process.
Based on that it would be great if you avoided going again, or even any other clubs where one old man's mistake causes you to make a judgement on a whole group of people. How utterly bizarre.
John is a very successful lovely old guy who is a bit old fashioned and getting on a bit. If you complained to him by email he probably missed it or deleted it, if it was up to him he wouldn't bother with any of this new stuff. But actually he does OK.
But to then extrapolate, even if he did choose to ignore your, assumedly aggressive communication, to extrapolate that into the most stuck up bunch of clubbers ever only leaves one or two people liking exactly that.
"What on earth are you talking about, your the one with an axe to grind.. Are you upset cause we ignored your wink or friend request... Aww what a shame... Grow up | |||
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"I have no axe to grind i have never been , i just find it rude and ok he may have done a lot for swingers clubs but its not 1999 anymore and things have moved on If you have never been to Libs then you are basing your comments on those using this thread who have an axe to grind, effectively helping them to swing it! Like Onelifelivelife said a few comments above CRAZY! As i have said its an open forum , i am allowed to add to it Yes of course open forum freedom speech etc but you’ve never even attended the club before
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"I have no axe to grind i have never been , i just find it rude and ok he may have done a lot for swingers clubs but its not 1999 anymore and things have moved on If you have never been to Libs then you are basing your comments on those using this thread who have an axe to grind, effectively helping them to swing it! Like Onelifelivelife said a few comments above CRAZY! As i have said its an open forum , i am allowed to add to it Yes of course open forum freedom speech etc but you’ve never even attended the club before
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And your point is ? If the couple really dont know why they were banned mayebe it would be helpfull for the owner to tell them why so they are aware of it in other clubs"The original post isn’t even about being banned ??? 
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"I have no axe to grind i have never been , i just find it rude and ok he may have done a lot for swingers clubs but its not 1999 anymore and things have moved on If you have never been to Libs then you are basing your comments on those using this thread who have an axe to grind, effectively helping them to swing it! Like Onelifelivelife said a few comments above CRAZY! As i have said its an open forum , i am allowed to add to it Yes of course open forum freedom speech etc but you’ve never even attended the club before
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And your point is ? If the couple really dont know why they were banned mayebe it would be helpfull for the owner to tell them why so they are aware of it in other clubs
The original post isn’t even about being banned ???
I have a feeling the letter they were sent will explain why "LOL oh right, Yea cause you've seen it haven't you | |||
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"Surely they deserved an expanation , i find that very rude If their membership was revoked then trust us they will know why even if no expectation was given, the decision to revoke a membership isn’t taken lightly." | |||
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"Just to clarify why we found it stuck up, we we're members and had been to libs 4 times, then one morning out of the blue we received a letter stating our membership has been terminated and we are not welcome bk lol, after trying to contact them to see what the problem was we we're just blatantly ignored, no explanation or anything, this to us is just rude and stuck up.... On the flip side, we're not too bothered as libs have been known to have given out members private details, so there data protection is a sham
Ah so you do have an axe to grind, that explains it.
The club makes an administrative error and from that you decide to accuse all the attendees of being stuck up, what a pleasant logical thought process.
Based on that it would be great if you avoided going again, or even any other clubs where one old man's mistake causes you to make a judgement on a whole group of people. How utterly bizarre.
John is a very successful lovely old guy who is a bit old fashioned and getting on a bit. If you complained to him by email he probably missed it or deleted it, if it was up to him he wouldn't bother with any of this new stuff. But actually he does OK.
But to then extrapolate, even if he did choose to ignore your, assumedly aggressive communication, to extrapolate that into the most stuck up bunch of clubbers ever only leaves one or two people liking exactly that.
What on earth are you talking about, your the one with an axe to grind.. Are you upset cause we ignored your wink or friend request... Aww what a shame... Grow up"Yeah ok. We are so devastated . And not sure what that has to do with the discussion either. I haven't commented on this thread but couldn't resist this one! Your comment says more about you than it does about us.
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue" Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue? | |||
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"And where did I say "bunch of stuck up clubbers" yet again your making things up, I said we found the place stuck up cause we didn't have an explanation... And as for you saying his probably miss deleted it... Well wrong, I've been messaged by a few ppl now telling me what we supposedly got banned for, that in itself tells me a lot about the club, it goes around telling other people what the reason is but not us, apparently we never paid a bar bill, which is a lie cause the couple who stayed with us did, oh and we also stole... Lol... Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue, but hey we're fine with Va.... Which we've paid all our bills too "Sorry was some of that in response to me, too much for you to read in one go
That was another extrapolation of your initial comment. Make sweeping generalisations and get them back in response.
Couldn't care less why you were banned to be honest, just pleased you have been.
And am I upset because you ignored a wink or friends request, erm no, can't you remember which it was? Seems to have been a bit of an event for you think we might have seen you at the VA festival, so may have been either, but no we can just about live with that rejection, I blocked you after the start of this thread. But really doesn't matter there are a lot more people on this site to worry about than you pair.
It's nice to know that your original post in this thread was because you have an axe to grind that you have now admitted was because you were banned, for whatever reason irrelevant to anybody else. As far as I'm concerned that says everything about you I need to know especially with the reasons you've given for getting banned. So happy to leave that with you to get worked up about.
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue?" Are you going to answer this question? | |||
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue? Are you going to answer this question?" Sure Jules will be delighted at all this shit flying around and the constant mentions and associations to the VA too, as she would certainly not associate with any public shaming like this. | |||
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"Sounds to me like chinese whispers going around" Sounds more like bu11s**t flying around to me, that’s all this thread has managed to achieve, the OP asked a valid and genuine question but it’s spirals into another club bashing thread | |||
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue?" Would still be interested to hear the answer to this? | |||
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue? Would still be interested to hear the answer to this? Not looking to get into a argument and I won’t honour any other comment you write but I read a lot of the threads on here and I must say it is very alarming that you are always in the middle of the argument side of them. It must be very exhausting to be that way. Love don’t hate! " You confuse argument with constructive input, isn’t that what a forum is about? | |||
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"Gosh its getting nasty in here " My thoughts exactly and always seems to be the same profiles ! How uncomfortable is their life! | |||
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"Gosh its getting nasty in here My thoughts exactly and always seems to be the same profiles ! How uncomfortable is their life! " | |||
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"Maybe they should have someone running it who knows what they are doing When John opened Libs in 1999 it was pretty much the only swingers club in the U.K. all the other clubs have come about as a result of John’s hard work and determination over the years to promote the existence of swingers clubs so we find your comment just plain rude and offensive! Plus we know for a fact that if a membership has been revoked it will be for a serious breach of the club rules or club etiquette, only a handful of memberships have been revoked over the 18 years the club has existed and always for the safety of the other members. Surely they deserved an expanation , i find that very rude " We agree. Just to extrapolate that (sorry, could not resist it) we BOTH agree. xx | |||
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"Just to clarify why we found it stuck up, we we're members and had been to libs 4 times, then one morning out of the blue we received a letter stating our membership has been terminated and we are not welcome bk lol, after trying to contact them to see what the problem was we we're just blatantly ignored, no explanation or anything, this to us is just rude and stuck up.... On the flip side, we're not too bothered as libs have been known to have given out members private details, so there data protection is a sham
Ah so you do have an axe to grind, that explains it.
The club makes an administrative error and from that you decide to accuse all the attendees of being stuck up, what a pleasant logical thought process.
Based on that it would be great if you avoided going again, or even any other clubs where one old man's mistake causes you to make a judgement on a whole group of people. How utterly bizarre.
John is a very successful lovely old guy who is a bit old fashioned and getting on a bit. If you complained to him by email he probably missed it or deleted it, if it was up to him he wouldn't bother with any of this new stuff. But actually he does OK.
But to then extrapolate, even if he did choose to ignore your, assumedly aggressive communication, to extrapolate that into the most stuck up bunch of clubbers ever only leaves one or two people liking exactly that.
What on earth are you talking about, your the one with an axe to grind.. Are you upset cause we ignored your wink or friend request... Aww what a shame... Grow up
Yeah ok. We are so devastated . And not sure what that has to do with the discussion either. I haven't commented on this thread but couldn't resist this one! Your comment says more about you than it does about us.
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue?" Jeez! You are so aggressive! That was not our original question about the club. However, you seem to have validated our concerns and clearly confirmed that the only folk welcomed there are the "chosen few"! | |||
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue? Jeez! You are so aggressive! That was not our original question about the club. However, you seem to have validated our concerns and clearly confirmed that the only folk welcomed there are the "chosen few"! "Must admit i thought that | |||
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue? Jeez! You are so aggressive! That was not our original question about the club. However, you seem to have validated our concerns and clearly confirmed that the only folk welcomed there are the "chosen few"! "I started going to Libs in April and have always felt incredibly welcome at a variety of events - I'd say give it a go, you can always decide not to go back x | |||
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"Can't be too surprised tho as they went round emailing members telling them the scenario with chic, which was also untrue Exactly what part of the Chic announcement was untrue? Jeez! You are so aggressive! That was not our original question about the club. However, you seem to have validated our concerns and clearly confirmed that the only folk welcomed there are the "chosen few"!
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