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"Who wants a club full of single blokes?" Me please, I might be brave enough to go to one then  | |||
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"There's no membership required at the Attic, and it's only £20 entry even on a Saturday night "What about on coupon day? | |||
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"Who wants a club full of single blokes? Me please, I might be brave enough to go to one then "Why would other women being there put you off? | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing?" Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? | |||
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"Who wants a club full of single blokes?" Doesn't sound too bad  | |||
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"Who wants a club full of single blokes? Doesn't sound too bad "This is my dream! | |||
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"There's no membership required at the Attic, and it's only £20 entry even on a Saturday night
What about on coupon day?"Not sure, I've used up all ma Green Shield stamps | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? " No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that | |||
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"Who wants a club full of single blokes? Me please, I might be brave enough to go to one then
Why would other women being there put you off?"You're making assumptions. C could be stressing the single status | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that" Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!  | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! "did you think they where going to hold your hand and find you a shag? | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! did you think they where going to hold your hand and find you a shag?"No, which is why I said so in my original post!  but did think they maybe they ensured people felt included help people talk and join in, obviously not I guess. | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! "Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for? Sounds like you need a brass, not a club? | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! did you think they where going to hold your hand and find you a shag?
No, which is why I said so in my original post! but did think they maybe they ensured people felt included help people talk and join in, obviously not I guess."Unsure how a host could make you feel ‘included’. They certainly won’t hold your hand or introduce you to people. Maybe it’s best for you to visit a club and just see how the land lies | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
"Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking. Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs! | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs! "but its not a house party its a club | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs! "So it’s everyone else? You’ve asked an opinion and seem to have gotten the arse because you didn’t get the answer you wanted? | |||
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"The thing that I don’t get is that most clubs/parties are selective about how many men they let in. If this is the case, why do men need to pay more!? I really dislike the pay differences. " Just economics I guess. As long there are guys happy to pay a premium for entry into such a club, then clubs will continue to take advantage if it. | |||
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"If it was cheaper for single men the clubs would be over run with them. Basically, as unfair as it is, clubs can charge as they see fit. Many allow single females in for free or for silly money, just to encourage more to go. There will never be a shortage of men willing to go at any cost." By chance I was in a club last Friday discussing this very subject. Making the SM entry too low fills the place with single guys, make it too high and they won't attend, or those who do think the high price guarantees them a fuck. Must be tough setting the entry fees just right. ... | |||
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"If it was cheaper for single men the clubs would be over run with them. Basically, as unfair as it is, clubs can charge as they see fit. Many allow single females in for free or for silly money, just to encourage more to go. There will never be a shortage of men willing to go at any cost. By chance I was in a club last Friday discussing this very subject. Making the SM entry too low fills the place with single guys, make it too high and they won't attend, or those who do think the high price guarantees them a fuck. Must be tough setting the entry fees just right. ... " Thing is I imagine the single guys will pay it as their brains think this ‘oooh swingers club = I’ll get laid and hopefully more than once, where’s my wallet’....ha ha | |||
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"You’re missing a wodge out of ya wallet, mate! "That's all id probably loos if i ever managed to get to a club to. | |||
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"Op you mean you want someone to welcome you to the Club, note that you’re alone and possibly shy, and maybe take you and introduce you to a few folk in a friendly way so you get chatting in the bar/lounge area, rather than standing around on your own feeling awkward? Not sure what’s wrong with this. It’s called being friendly. " That's how I would see a host's function. To facilitate ice-breaking. Whatever happens after that is down to the individuals. Never been to a swinger's club though, so no idea how these things work. | |||
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"I've only ever been to one club, that one in Leeds, which was a Fab sponsored night but I think to meet people I need to start going, HU9 being the closest. But, and this is what I'm finding slightly confusing about clubs: Obviously you have to pay a membership but then you also have to pay a nightly entrance fee, highest price is for single man? What, if anything, am I missing about this? (No, I don't think the entrance fee guarantees anything!) "What exactly is a "Fab sponcered night?" I didn't realise fab sponcered club nights. Are they play or social or both, and when are where are they? | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs! "Clubs want your money. If you don't want to pay, there's many more who will. | |||
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"Op you mean you want someone to welcome you to the Club, note that you’re alone and possibly shy, and maybe take you and introduce you to a few folk in a friendly way so you get chatting in the bar/lounge area, rather than standing around on your own feeling awkward? Not sure what’s wrong with this. It’s called being friendly. That's how I would see a host's function. To facilitate ice-breaking. Whatever happens after that is down to the individuals. Never been to a swinger's club though, so no idea how these things work. " Exactly
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"Op you mean you want someone to welcome you to the Club, note that you’re alone and possibly shy, and maybe take you and introduce you to a few folk in a friendly way so you get chatting in the bar/lounge area, rather than standing around on your own feeling awkward? Not sure what’s wrong with this. It’s called being friendly. " I almost went to a club on my own, I called them a week before and they said they'd give me a tour and introduce me to a few regulars. I thought that would be the norm tbh. (I didn't go because I got my flipping period  ) | |||
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"Op you mean you want someone to welcome you to the Club, note that you’re alone and possibly shy, and maybe take you and introduce you to a few folk in a friendly way so you get chatting in the bar/lounge area, rather than standing around on your own feeling awkward? Not sure what’s wrong with this. It’s called being friendly. That's how I would see a host's function. To facilitate ice-breaking. Whatever happens after that is down to the individuals. Never been to a swinger's club though, so no idea how these things work. Exactly
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! did you think they where going to hold your hand and find you a shag?
No, which is why I said so in my original post! but did think they maybe they ensured people felt included help people talk and join in, obviously not I guess.""Help people talk and join in?" Words fail me Really | |||
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"Club prices for men I know of range from £10 up, with no membership fees at some. Some do have a host who will show you round and possibly have a chat if they are not too busy giving tours etc. Each club is different though, and may well have different nights, events and parties. " If you ring up in advance Ron will show you all the facilities at the Attic. | |||
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"Be friendly, be sociable, have no further expectations than nattering to some nice people and that’s about it. " "Nattering?" you sound like ma Granny ffs | |||
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"Be friendly, be sociable, have no further expectations than nattering to some nice people and that’s about it. "Nattering?" you sound like ma Granny ffs "I like a good natter. I couldn’t give two hoots who I sound like as long as I sound like me. | |||
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"The thing that I don’t get is that most clubs/parties are selective about how many men they let in. If this is the case, why do men need to pay more!? I really dislike the pay differences. "
I went to a party with a friend and there was no charge. Later found out they were charging men £70!
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs! "I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included. Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars. If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth. | |||
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"Be friendly, be sociable, have no further expectations than nattering to some nice people and that’s about it. "Nattering?" you sound like ma Granny ffs
I like a good natter. I couldn’t give two hoots who I sound like as long as I sound like me. "With a figure like that, you could sound like Dot Cotton and I think most would be alright with it! ???? | |||
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"If it was cheaper for single men the clubs would be over run with them. Basically, as unfair as it is, clubs can charge as they see fit. Many allow single females in for free or for silly money, just to encourage more to go. There will never be a shortage of men willing to go at any cost." This pretty much applies to most night clubs,or did when I went, in the dim distant past. | |||
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" Single horny woman pays nothing to get into a club. Single horny woman doesn't behave respectfully, thinks more about getting her pussy wet than anything else. Single horny woman touches other people without asking because she thinks rules don't apply to her. Club just smiles and does nothing because she's a woman. She ain't that fussed, she only went to get pissed up and 'be social', she's lost nothing and heads off home. Single horny woman is asked to pay £50 entry. She goes to a pub instead. Club loses their sex bait.... and cries. " She needs to keep her hands to herself. Rules should apply both ways. | |||
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" Single horny woman pays nothing to get into a club. Single horny woman doesn't behave respectfully, thinks more about getting her pussy wet than anything else. Single horny woman touches other people without asking because she thinks rules don't apply to her. Club just smiles and does nothing because she's a woman. She ain't that fussed, she only went to get pissed up and 'be social', she's lost nothing and heads off home. Single horny woman is asked to pay £50 entry. She goes to a pub instead. Club loses their sex bait.... and cries. " Yes but a single horny woman is unlikely to behave like that. She doesnt to need to because there will usually a choice of men (and probably women) who will be delighted for her attention. They will be no need for her to touch without asking when plenty of people are consenting. In all the time I’ve been attending swing clubs I have never come across a single horny woman who has made me feel uncomfortable, yet I frequently get that from single horny men. And I’ve notice a pattern where there is more of this behaviour at cheaper clubs. Mrs | |||
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"Actually, in my experience, most good clubs will introduce new people to others after showing them around to facilitate chatter. They won’t, and frankly don’t have the time, to babysit. This is why I advocate getting in touch with the club in advance to introduce yourself and explain that you’re new to them. Also, look at going on a newbie night. Be friendly, be sociable, have no further expectations than nattering to some nice people and that’s about it. " This^ When I first considered a club I had all of the usual first timer nerves. I exchanged a few emails with the club, explained that it was my first time, most of the questions I asked theyd probably been asked a gazilluion times before, but they were friendly, helpful, courteous and welcoming. Made my first visit so much more comfortable. | |||
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" Single horny woman pays nothing to get into a club. Single horny woman doesn't behave respectfully, thinks more about getting her pussy wet than anything else. Single horny woman touches other people without asking because she thinks rules don't apply to her. Club just smiles and does nothing because she's a woman. She ain't that fussed, she only went to get pissed up and 'be social', she's lost nothing and heads off home. Single horny woman is asked to pay £50 entry. She goes to a pub instead. Club loses their sex bait.... and cries. Yes but a single horny woman is unlikely to behave like that. She doesnt to need to because there will usually a choice of men (and probably women) who will be delighted for her attention. They will be no need for her to touch without asking when plenty of people are consenting. In all the time I’ve been attending swing clubs I have never come across a single horny woman who has made me feel uncomfortable, yet I frequently get that from single horny men. And I’ve notice a pattern where there is more of this behaviour at cheaper clubs. Mrs" Really? I've seen single women behave dreadfully in a club...... If a bloke was behaving like she was he'd had been thrown out on his arse..... *there are exceptions to every "rule" | |||
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" Single horny woman pays nothing to get into a club. Single horny woman doesn't behave respectfully, thinks more about getting her pussy wet than anything else. Single horny woman touches other people without asking because she thinks rules don't apply to her. Club just smiles and does nothing because she's a woman. She ain't that fussed, she only went to get pissed up and 'be social', she's lost nothing and heads off home. Single horny woman is asked to pay £50 entry. She goes to a pub instead. Club loses their sex bait.... and cries. Yes but a single horny woman is unlikely to behave like that. She doesnt to need to because there will usually a choice of men (and probably women) who will be delighted for her attention. They will be no need for her to touch without asking when plenty of people are consenting. In all the time I’ve been attending swing clubs I have never come across a single horny woman who has made me feel uncomfortable, yet I frequently get that from single horny men. And I’ve notice a pattern where there is more of this behaviour at cheaper clubs. Mrs Really? I've seen single women behave dreadfully in a club...... If a bloke was behaving like she was he'd had been thrown out on his arse..... *there are exceptions to every "rule"" Doing what? | |||
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"Based on having normal conversations with ladies in here and reading status updates, the number of chaps who think “fancy a fuck?” Or BAM: dick pic!!!! is a good way to behave is staggering! So yes, price these types out of going, 100%. Makes it so much harder for the rest of us. Sad state of affairs really but you have to work with the reality, not the ideal." That would only work if good manners etc were directly proportional to disposable income... | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs!
I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included.
Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars.
If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth. "I can speak from bitter experience that your last comment is completely true | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs!
I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included.
Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars.
If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth.
I can speak from bitter experience that your last comment is completely true "Because half the men there aren't into ethical non-monogamy to start with, don't really understand what a swinging club is and would have been better off going to a brothel. | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs! "A club worth its salt will show a newbie around and maybe introduce them to regular visitors to their club. They won’t however pair people together for fun, that’s up to the individual | |||
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"Careful OP, your entitlement is showing. Clubs, swinging or otherwise, have no responsibility to how your evening pans out. I’m sure they would prefer visitors to leave good reviews and tell their friends what a great night out they had though. Regarding gender pricing, not a fan so everyone pays the same at my events " | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs!
I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included.
Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars.
If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth.
I can speak from bitter experience that your last comment is completely true
Because half the men there aren't into ethical non-monogamy to start with, don't really understand what a swinging club is and would have been better off going to a brothel."Funnily enough, as I left the club I visited on Friday night, there was an Asian lad in a guy sat outside, who wound the window down and asked me how busy it was inside, any women in? I answered no, it was very quiet, and that’s why I left. Do you want to go to a brothel then, he asked? No thanks mate, but you enjoy your night, I replied | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs!
I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included.
Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars.
If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth.
I can speak from bitter experience that your last comment is completely true "I think if a club is not an enjoyable place for a single man and is not good value for money then there is no point in going. Some men have a good time and love clubs, some men it just work for them. In fact that applies to everything in life with everybody. Mrs | |||
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"I've only ever been to one club, that one in Leeds, which was a Fab sponsored night but I think to meet people I need to start going, HU9 being the closest. But, and this is what I'm finding slightly confusing about clubs: Obviously you have to pay a membership but then you also have to pay a nightly entrance fee, highest price is for single man? What, if anything, am I missing about this? (No, I don't think the entrance fee guarantees anything!) "if you go to the Attic club at Derby there is no membership fee and its a massive club, really nice and clean with reall good staff and security and very friendly. Well worth a visit | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs!
I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included.
Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars.
If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth.
I can speak from bitter experience that your last comment is completely true
Because half the men there aren't into ethical non-monogamy to start with, don't really understand what a swinging club is and would have been better off going to a brothel.
Funnily enough, as I left the club I visited on Friday night, there was an Asian lad in a guy sat outside, who wound the window down and asked me how busy it was inside, any women in? I answered no, it was very quiet, and that’s why I left. Do you want to go to a brothel then, he asked? No thanks mate, but you enjoy your night, I replied "Ain't it the truth. Given the prices are pretty similar, i really don't know why people that are open to both don't head to the brothel first. | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs!
I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included.
Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars.
If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth.
I can speak from bitter experience that your last comment is completely true
I think if a club is not an enjoyable place for a single man and is not good value for money then there is no point in going. Some men have a good time and love clubs, some men it just work for them. In fact that applies to everything in life with everybody.
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"Be friendly, be sociable, have no further expectations than nattering to some nice people and that’s about it. "Nattering?" you sound like ma Granny ffs
I like a good natter. I couldn’t give two hoots who I sound like as long as I sound like me. "any time u want to have a natter im here to listen | |||
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"I've only ever been to one club, that one in Leeds, which was a Fab sponsored night but I think to meet people I need to start going, HU9 being the closest. But, and this is what I'm finding slightly confusing about clubs: Obviously you have to pay a membership but then you also have to pay a nightly entrance fee, highest price is for single man? What, if anything, am I missing about this? (No, I don't think the entrance fee guarantees anything!) "The event fee is just for the special event eg BBW, HOTWIFES, some clubs are open most Friday I have found and some nights are cheaper depending on who running | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me!
Genuinely sounds like you need a baby-sitter? This kind of site isn't a guarantee of a lay for guys who cant get it elsewhere? You pay to get in and then you get what you pay for?
Sounds like you need a brass, not a club?
Haven't the faintest idea what a brass is but reckon I don't want to either. But what I do know is people have certainly misconstrued what I have been posting. Maybe if I compared it to a house party then I'm sure people would expect the hosts to make people feel comfortable, relaxed and included, nnot sexual, just ice breaking.
Is it me or people being obtuse, ffs!
I know what you meant and it's a fair question. Hosts like at parties or socials that make people feel included.
Unfortunately no they don't. If you're a woman or a couple you'd be warmly welcomed with a tour and introduced to regulars.
If you're a man they take your money then most people ignore you - many will even openly make you feel like the scum of the earth.
I can speak from bitter experience that your last comment is completely true
I think if a club is not an enjoyable place for a single man and is not good value for money then there is no point in going. Some men have a good time and love clubs, some men it just work for them. In fact that applies to everything in life with everybody.
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It all depends on who is in on the night. I just wish I could meet some of the people who extol the virtues of clubs so readily in here "It does indeed depend who’s there on the night. We’ve been to events and had a crap time and, like many single guys, felt we’d wasted our money. We now won’t go to clubs unless we know people who are going. We are not particularly outgoing people - but that our problem. | |||
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"I've only ever been to one club, that one in Leeds, which was a Fab sponsored night but I think to meet people I need to start going, HU9 being the closest. But, and this is what I'm finding slightly confusing about clubs: Obviously you have to pay a membership but then you also have to pay a nightly entrance fee, highest price is for single man? What, if anything, am I missing about this? (No, I don't think the entrance fee guarantees anything!) "Women are the product, the thing that makes you the single guy spend his money. That’s how clubs make money. They encourage women to attract the men. It’s the same with nightclubs and hook up sites. Actually HU9 are pretty fair with pricing. Clubs like chams it’s a fortune that’s why I always went with a female fb | |||
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"Op you mean you want someone to welcome you to the Club, note that you’re alone and possibly shy, and maybe take you and introduce you to a few folk in a friendly way so you get chatting in the bar/lounge area, rather than standing around on your own feeling awkward? Not sure what’s wrong with this. It’s called being friendly. " | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! "Think it would depend on the club/hosts. We have been to a club on a party night. The host on that particular night was great and made sure any newbies was introduced to others to get people chatting. They can’t guarantee you any fun but sure made sure no one felt left out | |||
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" Single horny woman pays nothing to get into a club. Single horny woman doesn't behave respectfully, thinks more about getting her pussy wet than anything else. Single horny woman touches other people without asking because she thinks rules don't apply to her. Club just smiles and does nothing because she's a woman. She ain't that fussed, she only went to get pissed up and 'be social', she's lost nothing and heads off home. Single horny woman is asked to pay £50 entry. She goes to a pub instead. Club loses their sex bait.... and cries. Yes but a single horny woman is unlikely to behave like that. She doesnt to need to because there will usually a choice of men (and probably women) who will be delighted for her attention. They will be no need for her to touch without asking when plenty of people are consenting. In all the time I’ve been attending swing clubs I have never come across a single horny woman who has made me feel uncomfortable, yet I frequently get that from single horny men. And I’ve notice a pattern where there is more of this behaviour at cheaper clubs. Mrs Really? I've seen single women behave dreadfully in a club...... If a bloke was behaving like she was he'd had been thrown out on his arse..... *there are exceptions to every "rule""
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" Single horny woman pays nothing to get into a club. Single horny woman doesn't behave respectfully, thinks more about getting her pussy wet than anything else. Single horny woman touches other people without asking because she thinks rules don't apply to her. Club just smiles and does nothing because she's a woman. She ain't that fussed, she only went to get pissed up and 'be social', she's lost nothing and heads off home. Single horny woman is asked to pay £50 entry. She goes to a pub instead. Club loses their sex bait.... and cries. Yes but a single horny woman is unlikely to behave like that. She doesnt to need to because there will usually a choice of men (and probably women) who will be delighted for her attention. They will be no need for her to touch without asking when plenty of people are consenting. In all the time I’ve been attending swing clubs I have never come across a single horny woman who has made me feel uncomfortable, yet I frequently get that from single horny men. And I’ve notice a pattern where there is more of this behaviour at cheaper clubs. Mrs Really? I've seen single women behave dreadfully in a club...... If a bloke was behaving like she was he'd had been thrown out on his arse..... *there are exceptions to every "rule"
Usually women in couples too but I was too lazy to type out 'also women in couples' into every line. "Well I guess I must have a look about me that deters women (whether single or part of a couple) making a nuisance of themselves with me. The only times I’ve ever gone away feeling irritated is due to something a single man has done. But we all have different experiences. | |||
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"I've only ever been to one club, that one in Leeds, which was a Fab sponsored night but I think to meet people I need to start going, HU9 being the closest. But, and this is what I'm finding slightly confusing about clubs: Obviously you have to pay a membership but then you also have to pay a nightly entrance fee, highest price is for single man? What, if anything, am I missing about this? (No, I don't think the entrance fee guarantees anything!) "Clubs owners are basically there to make money. They will set their pricing accordingly. | |||
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"Op you mean you want someone to welcome you to the Club, note that you’re alone and possibly shy, and maybe take you and introduce you to a few folk in a friendly way so you get chatting in the bar/lounge area, rather than standing around on your own feeling awkward? Not sure what’s wrong with this. It’s called being friendly. " Exactly this If you read each club’s website, you will usually see somewhere they mention how welcoming and friendly their club is, and their regulars, and how newbies will be looked after, shown around the place, and introduced to others, so they won’t feel awkward or left out. It doesn’t happen in practice, and my advice for the OP would be to just stick to your local club, get yourself known, and take things from there. Good luck | |||
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"Op you mean you want someone to welcome you to the Club, note that you’re alone and possibly shy, and maybe take you and introduce you to a few folk in a friendly way so you get chatting in the bar/lounge area, rather than standing around on your own feeling awkward? Not sure what’s wrong with this. It’s called being friendly. That's how I would see a host's function. To facilitate ice-breaking. Whatever happens after that is down to the individuals. Never been to a swinger's club though, so no idea how these things work. Exactly
I’ve never been either as i’m too shy and would be standing around like a prat "Me and Mr attended Pandora in Leeds for the first time a couple of months back. They were welcoming gave us a tour and introduced us to another couple who we could socialise with. Let them know your new to the scene and you should be looked after in the sense of not feeling awkward. | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! "Apart from if you get lucky you have a bed on hand no going out to your car and finding somewhere quiet. You can watch others play in open areas. Chat, drink, dance and maybe more without having to leave the building. | |||
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"The thing that I don’t get is that most clubs/parties are selective about how many men they let in. If this is the case, why do men need to pay more!? I really dislike the pay differences. " And have you had a satisfactory convincing reply? Its bs and unfortunately most just accept the reason they give that it's to reduce the guys and to ensure genuine ones going. It does neither as has been already said, guys will pay no matter what the price (and there you have ur answer... it's easy profits). They will control the number of single guys going whether they're charged the same as single ladies or 5x the single ladies. I'd say theyre more likely to get some desperate ones going who are willing to pay the price rather than more 'genuine' as they say. The control over numbers has nothing to do with pricing and everything to do with number limits. | |||
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"Clubs don’t suit everyone. You should do and go where best suits you " To be fair, this would be better interpreted as "Not every club suits everyone", although I would agree that the club scene in general, does not suit everyone | |||
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"This has always been an argument, of which I see both sides. Obviously clubs are there to make money. But there are plenty of ‘not for profit’ large scale parties too, who also tend to charge more men, and they will no doubt have their reasons for that. But with so many people understandably disapproving of this inequality, it never ceases amaze me why people are not starting ‘ethical’ swing clubs where everyone is charged the same. This is certainly something that more of the non profit making party organisers could consider. Why does no one start a venture like this? Mrs" Depends is an ethical swinging club would only allow ethically non-monogamous people to join? If you only allowed single guys who were into ethical non-monogamy then you would barely notice the imbalance and probably wouldn't need that pricing structure. | |||
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" What exactly is a "Fab sponcered night?" I didn't realise fab sponcered club nights. Are they play or social or both, and when are where are they? " It's would be a social night at a club. To entice new customers. Organised by someone on fab | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! ""Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? " If you have "no chatting/flirting skills" then no amount of hand-holding will help. You just have to bite the bullet, and put yourself out there. For us, in a club or party environment, the only guys who are likely to get an invite are the ones who mingle, socialise, are polite and respectful, and don't follow us around like the walking dead lol! | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? " I give tours to people attending Atlantis club in Stoke some nights. I always show people around, sit with them and talk about rules , etiquette and give people some tips. I then introduce them to bar staff and if possible regulars. I also try to keep an eye on them during the night and check how they are later in the evening. I love attending and it's in my interest( and the club's interest) for people to have a good night and possibly right a favourable review so that other new people are encouraged to attend and the new visitors choose to come back again. I would think most worthwhile club's would have a similar ethos. | |||
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"Your not missing anything, that's how it goes. What do you think you are missing? Don't know, is there an host/hostess who goes around ensuring people are enjoying themselves and not being excluded? No it's usually up to you to find your own fun. It can't be forced, if you aren't to that nights other guests there's nothing a host can do to change that Sounds just like going to a pub then, only it cost you £20 to get in! Not being flippant or cynical but being quite shy with no "chatting/flirting skills" thought clubs didn't just take your money they actually Hosted, guess not then. Unfortunately doesn't sound like the way forward for me! did you think they where going to hold your hand and find you a shag?
No, which is why I said so in my original post! but did think they maybe they ensured people felt included help people talk and join in, obviously not I guess.
Unsure how a host could make you feel ‘included’. They certainly won’t hold your hand or introduce you to people. Maybe it’s best for you to visit a club and just see how the land lies "At Mingles club the hosts go out of their way to make sure EVERYONE is enjoying their night. This can be by way of some games (jenga being their favorite) or just by introducing you to other members. It helps being a small and intimate club, 60 guests on a busy night, all friendly and welcoming to newbies... so you won't be by yourself too long. | |||
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