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"Hubby just called and they are not opening today. Yesterday was last day. " Yeah just checked both websites saying closed | |||
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"Gotta love the "nimbys" ??" I don’t think that applied here. All the Village knew about it and didn’t have an issue. The club brought in a lot of business to the area. It’s just one or a few councillors I think. That’s my understanding though. | |||
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"I think it’s from immediate effect by the wording? Hopefully someone can confirm or not " As of now | |||
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"Gotta love the "nimbys" ??" Sorry, I should have elaborated, locals were fine, it was the council being nimbys | |||
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"That is sad news. Lots of happy memories from Kestrels and Ab Fabs. Let's spare a thought for the staff who enhanced the whole experience. Will be keeping an eye on things and hope that the Kestrel becomes a Phoenix." Yes let’s not forget all the great staff who are today without a job. Hope you’re all ok and I hope it’s not long before a new one is open for Us all to support | |||
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"That is sad news. Lots of happy memories from Kestrels and Ab Fabs. Let's spare a thought for the staff who enhanced the whole experience. Will be keeping an eye on things and hope that the Kestrel becomes a Phoenix. Yes let’s not forget all the great staff who are today without a job. Hope you’re all ok and I hope it’s not long before a new one is open for Us all to support " thank you all for your support ..... | |||
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"Very sad Guess we need a new venue for our Friday night out. And no more HDZ " Yes no more HDZ | |||
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"Very sad Guess we need a new venue for our Friday night out. And no more HDZ Yes no more HDZ " I was coming down next week for it too | |||
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"fabswingers you should be ashamed,you have blood on your hands on this one" The argument fab had with Abfab and the removal of the club listing is nothing to do with this closure | |||
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"Very sad Guess we need a new venue for our Friday night out. And no more HDZ Yes no more HDZ " Double Aaaaaaargh! | |||
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"Whichever counsellor got a bee in their bonnet about the venue I sincerely hope loses their seat in the next local elections. In a time of austerity how much money has Spelthorne council spent on this witch hunt. The village will lose money as to be honest what other attractions are there in the area, people have lost jobs and the council will lose some rates I'm guessing too. Despicable behaviour. " | |||
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"Whichever counsellor got a bee in their bonnet about the venue I sincerely hope loses their seat in the next local elections. In a time of austerity how much money has Spelthorne council spent on this witch hunt. The village will lose money as to be honest what other attractions are there in the area, people have lost jobs and the council will lose some rates I'm guessing too. Despicable behaviour. " I’d love them to be accountable for exactly how much they’ve spent on this when they’ve cut local services but have cash to close down a discreet well loved club | |||
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"unfortunately the fabs argument did more damage than any legal battle " Really? I don’t see that in the slightest! | |||
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"OMG that's so typical! !! Though why they got me to take out membership on Saturday. .." Everyone needs membership to get in, it’s comoukdory. And the staff were not aware on Saturday anyway afaik | |||
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"OMG that's so typical! !! Though why they got me to take out membership on Saturday. .. Everyone needs membership to get in, it’s comoukdory. And the staff were not aware on Saturday anyway afaik" No we were not.....I've only just found out | |||
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"Very sad Guess we need a new venue for our Friday night out. And no more HDZ Yes no more HDZ I was coming down next week for it too " Bummer | |||
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"unfortunately the fabs argument did more damage than any legal battle " Can’t see how the Fab argument has anything to do with a costly and ultimately fruitless legal battle which the club were unlikely to win. The club, IMHO, shot itself in the foot as far as FabSwingers is concerned. | |||
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"Whichever counsellor got a bee in their bonnet about the venue I sincerely hope loses their seat in the next local elections. In a time of austerity how much money has Spelthorne council spent on this witch hunt. The village will lose money as to be honest what other attractions are there in the area, people have lost jobs and the council will lose some rates I'm guessing too. Despicable behaviour. I’d love them to be accountable for exactly how much they’ve spent on this when they’ve cut local services but have cash to close down a discreet well loved club" Surely this could be discovered under the Freedom of Information act? | |||
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" I’d love them to be accountable for exactly how much they’ve spent on this when they’ve cut local services but have cash to close down a discreet well loved club" Once the Planning Inspector supported the councils original decision any further appeals were against their decision. "The Planning Inspectorate is an executive agency, sponsored by the Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government" So it was money that the government could have otherwise spent on social housing. | |||
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"Unfortunately we have closed - it’s been great looking after all you lovely people for the last eight years but watch this space we are looking for new premises and any changes will be posted immediately x" Thanks for all the fun & good luck searching! | |||
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"I’m guessing OP4F will have better turn up on Tuesdays now as there are not many places left to go to" Was wondering myself which club will pick up the bulk of the regulars. You could do a hell of a lot worse than OurPlace4Fun. More likely to be Eurekas or BGHS though, due to the similar opening times and facilities. | |||
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"Really? Any idea how much that cost to take it all the way to the high court? They lost the fight. Even if it were packed to the rafters and had money rolling in, it lost. They are not on the club listings but active in the forums, every swinger knows it exists. " the costs over the last 5yrs or more are enormous but were affordable with peoples support but this has really dropped of in last few months when most people cant see it exists on forums like this | |||
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"I’m guessing OP4F will have better turn up on Tuesdays now as there are not many places left to go to Was wondering myself which club will pick up the bulk of the regulars. You could do a hell of a lot worse than OurPlace4Fun. More likely to be Eurekas or BGHS though, due to the similar opening times and facilities. " Silverleigh could pick up some business from the A3 corridor Eastwards on the M25 | |||
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"Really? Any idea how much that cost to take it all the way to the high court? They lost the fight. Even if it were packed to the rafters and had money rolling in, it lost. They are not on the club listings but active in the forums, every swinger knows it exists. the costs over the last 5yrs or more are enormous but were affordable with peoples support but this has really dropped of in last few months when most people cant see it exists on forums like this " You may be right but I’m very sceptical. The costs will have been astronomical and it’s not a case that you can keep spending money on appeals and stall it forever. They were told to close or at least change massively, it wasn’t a request it was a legal ruling. Also, abfabs/kestrels are one of the most active clubs on the forum. The fact that their listings aren’t on the events page isnt a big blow. I’ve not been for ages, I prefer le boudoir for travel and they genuinely limit single guys and ensure dress and behaviour are adhered too. Perhaps the drop of in attendance was for reasons other that this site? | |||
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"Gotta love the "nimbys" ?? Sorry, I should have elaborated, locals were fine, it was the council being nimbys" Nimby has nothing to do with it. The owner played fast and loose with the law and the law won. Many other clubs operate without major issue because they operate within the rules. The only person to blame here is the owner. That being said, there was a time when Abfabs was a great club and we had some great times. | |||
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"Firstly, thank you to all the staff who gave us great memories. All the new years and events over the years have been amazing. Then there are all the people we have met. Made some amazing friends here and had some great times. Let's hope we all stay in touch until a new venue is found. Lastly the local council should be ashamed. Jobs have been lost and the local community will lose money. How much have T5 made out of the club plus local pubs and corner shops etc? I'd like to know who the people were that spent the public's money on this. It's disgraceful. " yes i loved working those new years eve parties great club great people | |||
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"Not really true ,the owners made the one simple mistake all those years ago when they opened of doing so in what was a home,not a commercial building and as such they were condemned from then as change of use was never going to be allowed,the club didn't go to court because of what took place at the club ,it went to court because he turned the home into a business premises and this brought the rulings he lost.Other clubs are in industrial premises so do not suffer this ruling,this is why the owners looked to purchase the industrial unit close by that would already have the licenses he needed It may seem a crazy thing to some to lose a case over but the councilors actions are to increase housing stock not reduce so he had to be stopped as any other business would" I thought the premises were a scrap yard/commercial vehicle repair workshop with a dwelling attached before it was converted? | |||
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"As well as being a member for over 10 years, I’ve worked there as an Abfab party host with my ex (who I met there in the hottub!), i worked Kestrels at weekends, then I started the original extended hours when they first opened on a weds night and most lately as House Domme for HDZ. Met some amazing people, made lasting friendships and had some very memorable experiences in that time. I’ve been to 38 clubs in this country and abroad and nowhere comes close to it in my opinion. Truly a special place, hope the new location will bring us the kestrel summers we’re used to " Very well said and a great loss indeed | |||
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"As well as being a member for over 10 years, I’ve worked there as an Abfab party host with my ex (who I met there in the hottub!), i worked Kestrels at weekends, then I started the original extended hours when they first opened on a weds night and most lately as House Domme for HDZ. Met some amazing people, made lasting friendships and had some very memorable experiences in that time. I’ve been to 38 clubs in this country and abroad and nowhere comes close to it in my opinion. Truly a special place, hope the new location will bring us the kestrel summers we’re used to " Absolutely spot on... We're gutted it's closed, had some fantastic times there | |||
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"Is it too soon to put a bid in for the outdoor hot tub? " Haha oi that ones mine! You can have the indoor one, I could never get comfy in it! | |||
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"Is it too soon to put a bid in for the outdoor hot tub? Haha oi that ones mine! You can have the indoor one, I could never get comfy in it! " Both of you can have hot tubs. But no one touching sex swing. That’s mine | |||
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"Is it too soon to put a bid in for the outdoor hot tub? Haha oi that ones mine! You can have the indoor one, I could never get comfy in it! Both of you can have hot tubs. But no one touching sex swing. That’s mine " Not fair I love that swing!! | |||
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"Is it too soon to put a bid in for the outdoor hot tub? Haha oi that ones mine! You can have the indoor one, I could never get comfy in it! Both of you can have hot tubs. But no one touching sex swing. That’s mine " No it's mine!!!I was the LAST person to use it yesterday and that's the truth!!!! | |||
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"Can't think of anywhere that has outdoor daytime naturist opportunities - apart from vanilla (non-playing) naturist clubs. All of the places I know of are either night clubs style or indoor spas. No idea where we could go to share the same or similar experiences. Eurekas is the only one I know of and that's miles away." A naturist club would be perfect in terms of the fact that they often have outdoor pools. Somewhere like Surrey Downs sun clubs old site would have been perfect. | |||
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"Ps. Can I have a shed " LOL!! | |||
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"Can we bid for the ceiling mirror please? Always our favourite room! " Haha was my Friday ‘lovely day’ room! | |||
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"Wow.imagine if you could walk round the place with a UV light !! On a series note, where will all the off duty taxi drivers go on a Friday night ?" Haha to both comments!!!! | |||
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"Ps. Can I have a shed " We’re collecting the 69 one tomorrow! | |||
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"Wow.imagine if you could walk round the place with a UV light !! On a series note, where will all the off duty taxi drivers go on a Friday night ?" They could sell it to the police to us for forensic training... | |||
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"Bugger!!!!! got the T5 TL booked for Easter Sunday may have to find a hotel meet or lose 20quid!" Just turn it in to a gangbang in you’re hotel room keep the fun going. | |||
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"Very sad news. Just a pity they didn’t inform everyone with a date. They could have thrown a large party to celebrate what an amazing club it was, I’m sure they would have been sold out all weekend xx" Yeah but they know us too well - we’d have had a sit in protest. Or would that be shag in protest | |||
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"Very sad news. Just a pity they didn’t inform everyone with a date. They could have thrown a large party to celebrate what an amazing club it was, I’m sure they would have been sold out all weekend xx Yeah but they know us too well - we’d have had a sit in protest. Or would that be shag in protest " A gangbang protest in the car park sound like a great idea | |||
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"Nnnoooo! Love going there. Our nearest club now is Arousals, who do seem to have a few parties lined up. " Never been to either but surely the Hellfie club is your nearest! | |||
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"Sad times indeed especially as yesterday was a fab day. Will be a big shame!" It was a great day there yesterday been going there most Sundays throughout this winter made some great friends including the staff we hope you find a new venue so we can continue to enjoy this lifestyle | |||
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"Where am I supposed to go plane spotting while tanning my arse now?" Western perimeter road is a good location. You might get arrested though but great if you’re into restraint | |||
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"Very sad Guess we need a new venue for our Friday night out. And no more HDZ Yes no more HDZ I was coming down next week for it too " Ditto shame i couldn't make the last one. | |||
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"So sad, I was once a twice weekly, (or more) visitor. I’ve met some amazing people there, some I now call friends. Shame we didn’t get to say goodbye to the place but let’s hope a new venue can be found soon. Thanks to all the staff, gutted for you especially xxx" | |||
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"So sad, I was once a twice weekly, (or more) visitor. I’ve met some amazing people there, some I now call friends. Shame we didn’t get to say goodbye to the place but let’s hope a new venue can be found soon. Thanks to all the staff, gutted for you especially xxx " It really was the best social club with great friends, just with added sex! | |||
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"Sad to hear this... Where will i spend my summer now? Thank you to the staff for so many happy memories and friendships made. Looking forward to the new venue with anticipation." I think you two met there didn’t you? | |||
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"Sad to hear this... Where will i spend my summer now? Thank you to the staff for so many happy memories and friendships made. Looking forward to the new venue with anticipation. I think you two met there didn’t you? " Kind of... we met for a cuppa in Sainsburys first But yes i dragged him along because he was keen to see what it was all about. So yes, i guess we done all our getting to know each other initially in the pool or sheds | |||
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