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"is it open tonight just their profile hidden" it wasnt open on Tuesdays anyway . mainly Saturdays,and a few Wednesdays, | |||
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"is it open tonight just their profile hiddenit wasnt open on Tuesdays anyway . mainly Saturdays,and a few Wednesdays," oops didn't see that was wrote last Saturday .I helped out behind the bar there .hopefully it will be back | |||
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"They've disappeared off my friends. " Yeah we've noticed that they've just disappeared off our friends list as well. Hope they've not had any trouble. | |||
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"They've disappeared off my friends. Yeah we've noticed that they've just disappeared off our friends list as well. Hope they've not had any trouble." Really strange - something has obv happened more than electrics as they've deleted acvount | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen" We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area... | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area..." It does seem strange that 3 clubs tried to open in Sunderland and the council closed them down on information received, and now this one. | |||
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"I know we have struggled to find a nice couple to meet and stay in a hotel with ajoining doors and lots of touching and and oral and toys and orgasms and everything else,,,hmmm now where do you think we will to find such a couple mmmmmmmmmmm lol xxx????" Not an easy task then xx | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area... It does seem strange that 3 clubs tried to open in Sunderland and the council closed them down on information received, and now this one. " ... a massive list of coincidences that suddenly rears it's ugly head when a new club/venue starts up in the area... .. ... | |||
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"I know we have struggled to find a nice couple to meet and stay in a hotel with ajoining doors and lots of touching and and oral and toys and orgasms and everything else,,,hmmm now where do you think we will to find such a couple mmmmmmmmmmm lol xxx???? Not an easy task then xx" lol well we did find a lovely coupke who we will stay friend's with ,,,yes lovely fun had x | |||
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"I know we have struggled to find a nice couple to meet and stay in a hotel with ajoining doors and lots of touching and and oral and toys and orgasms and everything else,,,hmmm now where do you think we will to find such a couple mmmmmmmmmmm lol xxx???? Not an easy task then xxlol well we did find a lovely coupke who we will stay friend's with ,,,yes lovely fun had x" | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area... It does seem strange that 3 clubs tried to open in Sunderland and the council closed them down on information received, and now this one. " I think the authorities are cracking down in the North East, we have been subject to a series of various agencies coming to visit and yes it is since the latest club opened. Very strange. 3 clubs closed in sunderland? Sunderland have always taken a hard line with swingers clubs. Clubf started there and then moved after ? You would need to ask the owner for the true reasons, but one of them was he was offered new premises. Secrets closed, unsure why Vivente closed because of breaching fire regulations, they did appeal against planning permission and that got accepted. Dont know if you realise but its notoriously difficult to get authorities and the public to accept and endorse swingers clubs. We tried to get permission in Leeds and Nottingham and both were refused. | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area... It does seem strange that 3 clubs tried to open in Sunderland and the council closed them down on information received, and now this one. " but that didnt happen fact | |||
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"Oh and aparently the North East are the Geographically the most swinging county in the UK. Quote me if not? " Interesting, where did that fact/statistic come from? Is that the North east? Or which county? Now I think we definitely are the kinkiest if you include dungeon stuff as well.... | |||
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"Oh and aparently the North East are the Geographically the most swinging county in the UK. Quote me if not? Interesting, where did that fact/statistic come from? Is that the North east? Or which county? Now I think we definitely are the kinkiest if you include dungeon stuff as well.... " Definitely not from fabswingers or The Sidney university and there studies jn geographical regional boundaries when was Leeds last in the NORTH East lol but that's another story/thread for another day. | |||
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"Then even longer ago than that there were 2 in Newcastle, one got closed for selling viagra and one got shut because it was in or above a conservative club. There was another couple as well but not sure what happened to them, one was in Newcastle city centre, think it ran for a couple of weeks and one out towards whitley Bay way. " The one in Blackburn was owned by a Muslim gentleman but it was only a stone throw away from the local Church/Cathedral so obviously that was living on borrowed time and eventually got closed.(council apparently ) | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area... It does seem strange that 3 clubs tried to open in Sunderland and the council closed them down on information received, and now this one. ... a massive list of coincidences that suddenly rears it's ugly head when a new club/venue starts up in the area... .. ... " not really.... but i would say this... maybe put this one down as "basic common sense" wouldn't it be sensible to get all your "ducks" lined up in a row because you think about opening a club... whatever happened to research vivente's issue for example were they tried to put the cart before the horse.. then tried to do everything retrospectively.... we know teeside has a zero tolerance policy because anything that is opens up in that part of the world is shut down PDQ we all know there are more than enough people in the north east to support more than one club..... if it is all done legally and above board and all the correct licences are obtained and regulations are adheared to ... because if we end up talking a club that springs up, and a major incident happening .... lets say a fire..... then what conversation are we having! i find it had to have sympathy for a place that isn't playing by the rules everyone else has to, especially when it relates to the safety of others.... | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area... It does seem strange that 3 clubs tried to open in Sunderland and the council closed them down on information received, and now this one. ... a massive list of coincidences that suddenly rears it's ugly head when a new club/venue starts up in the area... .. ... not really.... but i would say this... maybe put this one down as "basic common sense" wouldn't it be sensible to get all your "ducks" lined up in a row because you think about opening a club... whatever happened to research vivente's issue for example were they tried to put the cart before the horse.. then tried to do everything retrospectively.... we know teeside has a zero tolerance policy because anything that is opens up in that part of the world is shut down PDQ we all know there are more than enough people in the north east to support more than one club..... if it is all done legally and above board and all the correct licences are obtained and regulations are adheared to ... because if we end up talking a club that springs up, and a major incident happening .... lets say a fire..... then what conversation are we having! i find it had to have sympathy for a place that isn't playing by the rules everyone else has to, especially when it relates to the safety of others...." ... hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... | |||
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"Can’t be 100% sure but the word around the scene is that the closing of JsNE is to do with clubf reports. Interesting when you read clubf sues posts. It’s a real shame if this is the case as it spoils the choice and variety for everyone. As already said there is enough swingers in the area to support 2 clubs. Unfortunately many people are scared to say anything about clubf as clubf police these forums and have been known to ban supporters of the opposition. So even so it’s what people are suspecting about the reasons a new club closed." that's familiar all around the club's in the UK THAT! | |||
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"Can’t be 100% sure but the word around the scene is that the closing of JsNE is to do with clubf reports. Interesting when you read clubf sues posts. It’s a real shame if this is the case as it spoils the choice and variety for everyone. As already said there is enough swingers in the area to support 2 clubs. Unfortunately many people are scared to say anything about clubf as clubf police these forums and have been known to ban supporters of the opposition. So even so it’s what people are suspecting about the reasons a new club closed." We ban very few people. To get barred you have to do something pretty serious in the club. Yes I read and reply to forum posts, am I not allowed to especially when people accuse the club (me) of stuff that we dont do. So I will repeat If Jsnortheast was shut down it was because of what they did or didnt do, the authorities in their ultimate wisdom and with the power granted to them dont shut places down because other businesses are jealous . Get your facts right. | |||
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"Sue, you and your Clubf employees posting on here seem to know a lot about how this club was shut down. #justsaying #notjustmythoughts Still awaiting Fabios response too. " _abio's response to what exactly....... see.... people are making allegations here, and hey its easy to make then because people know "mud sticks" and if they are wrong they can whistle innocently and say "well i heard"..... so unless you have definative proof, you are walking a very fine legal line..... I am trying to work out how people and a club in one county council area with rules they have to abide by... are going to effect another club in another area with their own rules and regs...... what we do know if that different councils look at the rules differently.... sunderland was no, and that got overturned on appeal, teeside is a no and teeside police have a "no tolerance" rule with regards to swinging clubs....... what the council does where they are located..... don't know, but if it is legal and they got all their ducks lined up in a row, they will be back.... I actually do hope it isn't anything personal that happened to js..... i do hope it is just a blip but until we know, we don't know.... but don't point fingers in the meantime....... | |||
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"hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... " actually... no.... i was using the case of vivente people were pointing fingers at why vivente failed at the time, and pointing fingers at other clubs when in the end it was down to them not adhearing to fire regulations...... i don't care if a place has the right drinking/entertainment license..... but when it comes to safety, i would be all over that!! if vivente was still open, and lets say there was a fire, and in the trial it stated that vivente's fire doors were bolted shut!, what conversation would we be having now? which is why i talk about getting all your ducks lined up in a row before even starting a massive venture like a swinging club | |||
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"whats the update seems profile deleted is this the end or will they reopen We wondered the same thing as we were gearing up for a visit...you'd have thought the North East could easily support two clubs...it's not as if there aren't any Swingers in the area... It does seem strange that 3 clubs tried to open in Sunderland and the council closed them down on information received, and now this one. ... a massive list of coincidences that suddenly rears it's ugly head when a new club/venue starts up in the area... .. ... not really.... but i would say this... maybe put this one down as "basic common sense" wouldn't it be sensible to get all your "ducks" lined up in a row because you think about opening a club... whatever happened to research vivente's issue for example were they tried to put the cart before the horse.. then tried to do everything retrospectively.... we know teeside has a zero tolerance policy because anything that is opens up in that part of the world is shut down PDQ we all know there are more than enough people in the north east to support more than one club..... if it is all done legally and above board and all the correct licences are obtained and regulations are adheared to ... because if we end up talking a club that springs up, and a major incident happening .... lets say a fire..... then what conversation are we having! i find it had to have sympathy for a place that isn't playing by the rules everyone else has to, especially when it relates to the safety of others....... hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... " This is the question a response would be appreciated for Fabio. | |||
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"Can’t be 100% sure but the word around the scene is that the closing of JsNE is to do with clubf reports. Interesting when you read clubf sues posts. It’s a real shame if this is the case as it spoils the choice and variety for everyone. As already said there is enough swingers in the area to support 2 clubs. Unfortunately many people are scared to say anything about clubf as clubf police these forums and have been known to ban supporters of the opposition. So even so it’s what people are suspecting about the reasons a new club closed." An interesting hypothesis that one club can close another and that the forums are policed by certain clubs. Is the Mafia in town? I'm pretty much "on the scene" and I take with a pinch of course grained salt comments that are directed at individuals as there is usually a back story and I can guarantee this is not the place to resolve anything. When you say "people" I don't suspect anything re why the club closed as the reasons are known by some and are for the owners to either disclose or not. They thus far have chosen not to comment and personally I think good on em. Their place their choice. I would not be surprised if another venue opened soon and if so we will get more choice and more opinions. | |||
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"Speculation aside, the fact that they have disappeared off fab and events are no longer going ahead is worrying. I really hope they are both ok and there isn't something seriously wrong in their personal life. While they are not here to respond or defend themselves, speculation isn't helpful and it's poor form really. I hope they are both fit and healthy as businesses can be rebuilt, but health is more fragile xx" | |||
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"i find it had to have sympathy for a place that isn't playing by the rules everyone else has to, especially when it relates to the safety of others....... hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... " Still waiting for a response Fabio? We know you are a clubf lover, but this is a simple question you are avoiding.... | |||
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"i find it had to have sympathy for a place that isn't playing by the rules everyone else has to, especially when it relates to the safety of others....... hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... Still waiting for a response Fabio? We know you are a clubf lover, but this is a simple question you are avoiding...." He did reply | |||
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"Local council licencing and planning offices are a wonderful place to get information." and to get five stars for a functional place... | |||
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" and to get five stars for a functional place... " Haha good luck with that these days. | |||
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"i find it had to have sympathy for a place that isn't playing by the rules everyone else has to, especially when it relates to the safety of others....... hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... Still waiting for a response Fabio? We know you are a clubf lover, but this is a simple question you are avoiding.... He did reply " ... no he didn't .. he ducked the issue with a blatant lie ... ... his comments wasnt about vivente .. .. .. | |||
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"i find it had to have sympathy for a place that isn't playing by the rules everyone else has to, especially when it relates to the safety of others....... hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... Still waiting for a response Fabio? We know you are a clubf lover, but this is a simple question you are avoiding.... He did reply ... no he didn't .. he ducked the issue with a blatant lie ... ... his comments wasnt about vivente .. .. .. " He replied and clearly stated his comments were about Vivente. You appear to have a personal issue with Fabio with which you should deal with him directly rather than trolling people on forums when you disagree with them. | |||
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"I don’t think anyone has a problem with Fabio. Yes he mentioned Vivente but only when he started back tracking and trying to cover himself for revealing he knew more than most of us about what went on with JS." Fabio vocalised a hypothesis based on camparrisons to a situation involving a previous club. This is all based on truths and his own personal opinion on health and safety. Your opinion however seems to be based on rumours that you are perpetuating and stating that the management of another club somehow run this website and can influence local government. Is sue in the masons I wonder ? Or is Fabio one of the Men in Black ???! I wasn’t aware that we had joined a secret society when I started swinging, we thought it was all a bit of fun .... | |||
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"We all know what went on...end of." Then provide proof of that and of what has happened to jsnortheast | |||
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"I don’t think anyone has a problem with Fabio. Yes he mentioned Vivente but only when he started back tracking and trying to cover himself for revealing he knew more than most of us about what went on with JS. Fabio vocalised a hypothesis based on camparrisons to a situation involving a previous club. This is all based on truths and his own personal opinion on health and safety. Your opinion however seems to be based on rumours that you are perpetuating and stating that the management of another club somehow run this website and can influence local government. Is sue in the masons I wonder ? Or is Fabio one of the Men in Black ???! I wasn’t aware that we had joined a secret society when I started swinging, we thought it was all a bit of fun .... " | |||
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"hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... actually... no.... i was using the case of vivente people were pointing fingers at why vivente failed at the time, and pointing fingers at other clubs when in the end it was down to them not adhearing to fire regulations...... i don't care if a place has the right drinking/entertainment license..... but when it comes to safety, i would be all over that!! if vivente was still open, and lets say there was a fire, and in the trial it stated that vivente's fire doors were bolted shut!, what conversation would we be having now? which is why i talk about getting all your ducks lined up in a row before even starting a massive venture like a swinging club" In what "trial" did it state that the doors were bolted shut? You may need to rephrase this to state the newspaper that you read that in as there was no "trial". A trial is where a jury decides if someone is guilty of a crime. The owner did face charges which were admitted to and dealt with accordingly but no "trial" took place so you certainly can't state facts from tabloids as being truth. | |||
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"hi _abio .. .. .. are you stating from facts as regards safety licence ... and if so .. how do you know????? ... ... ... actually... no.... i was using the case of vivente people were pointing fingers at why vivente failed at the time, and pointing fingers at other clubs when in the end it was down to them not adhearing to fire regulations...... i don't care if a place has the right drinking/entertainment license..... but when it comes to safety, i would be all over that!! if vivente was still open, and lets say there was a fire, and in the trial it stated that vivente's fire doors were bolted shut!, what conversation would we be having now? which is why i talk about getting all your ducks lined up in a row before even starting a massive venture like a swinging club In what "trial" did it state that the doors were bolted shut? You may need to rephrase this to state the newspaper that you read that in as there was no "trial". A trial is where a jury decides if someone is guilty of a crime. The owner did face charges which were admitted to and dealt with accordingly but no "trial" took place so you certainly can't state facts from tabloids as being truth. " | |||
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"Oh and aparently the North East are the Geographically the most swinging county in the UK. Quote me if not? " That may be true. I heard Donald and Jackie mentioning Middlesbrough Swingers Cooperative once in Benidorm | |||
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"SURE THEY WILL APPEAR ONCE AGAIN JS! I new them before they had there project . " Me also. And the club is not important. I just hope they are ok x | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to opinions but I feel no one should be spreading gossip or rumours- having said that I’m not saying anyone is- it’s very sad how this swinging world is becoming recently where over different periods it seems we can’t all get along and life is too short- we’ve attended both clubs and many others and have no issues with anyone- like most all we want to do is enjoy the swinging we all do for our own reasons and be civil with each other at least- anything else is a bonus. We could do with a group orgy at this rate! Lol. Written messages are never a good way to gauge how things come across to others but I do feel J and S will be in touch with who they wish to be when they are good and ready- we haven’t heard from them neither and just hope they are ok as people and think a lot of them as we do of others - I’ve always been told if I want information to get it from the horses mouth so to speak. Let’s make love not war- again not that I’m saying anyone is , just the general feeling I’m getting is that the swinging lifestyle seems more personal than it used to be in general. We will know when we know and again we may never. Let’s just have a laugh and get back to having fun and smiling. Love to all Sassy Sparkle xxx" x | |||
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