FabSwingers.com forum: A rumour of not?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is it true that Townhouse are not accepting single guy memberships of the over 40’s or is it another unfounded rumour ?

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By *parkle......Woman
over a year ago

Staffordshire

"Is it true that Townhouse are not accepting single guy memberships of the over 40’s or is it another unfounded rumour ?"

Don't bother going it's a shit hole

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't bother going it's a shit hole "

It looks immaculate on their website, we've been to a couple of clubs we thought were shitholes and wouldn't go back, townhouse certainly doesn't look like it falls in to that bracket.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't bother going it's a shit hole

It looks immaculate on their website, we've been to a couple of clubs we thought were shitholes and wouldn't go back, townhouse certainly doesn't look like it falls in to that bracket. "

It's definitely not a shithole. Sounds like someone has an axe to grind. I've been to alot of clubs across the country and it's one of my favourites. Very well run, great facilities and friendly clientelle.

In regard to your post OP I don't know. Maybe best to contact the club directly rather than listening to rumour and relying on the forum.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"Is it true that Townhouse are not accepting single guy memberships of the over 40’s or is it another unfounded rumour ?"

Correct. The information is on the website or you can contact the owners directly on fab.

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By *uriousTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Ouch! I'd better remain a couple in that case!!

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"Ouch! I'd better remain a couple in that case!!"

As long as you you're not just doing it for the kids!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't bother going it's a shit hole "

And 1236 reviewers disagree

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By *ldhillhotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Old Hill

Unwanted at 40 that's out of order!

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By *uriousTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Nope, quite the opposite, we left them with the ex's lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it true that Townhouse are not accepting single guy memberships of the over 40’s or is it another unfounded rumour ?"

I believe OP is possible confused here? As there is an event aimed at those 39 and under,like many events they hold aimed at different groups,interests,fetishes etc.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

You can't go if you're a single man over 40?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it true that Townhouse are not accepting single guy memberships of the over 40’s or is it another unfounded rumour ?

I believe OP is possible confused here? As there is an event aimed at those 39 and under,like many events they hold aimed at different groups,interests,fetishes etc."

My Post was not singled to an event but the membership

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best to look at the website and contact the club for up to date information. As I read it that membership is suspended for new members wishing to join who fall into the over 40 male category. However certain events do allow this group. As always contact the club to check.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Best to look at the website and contact the club for up to date information. As I read it that membership is suspended for new members wishing to join who fall into the over 40 male category. However certain events do allow this group. As always contact the club to check. "

Checked website and that is true they have suspended the over 40’s single Male as they was or still are oversubscribed with us “over the hill” over 40’s but that’s dated 4th June.

I am personally not interested in attending TH as a single guy but will always be in the company of a lady but not strictly as a couple as was the case Wed on newbie night as a guest of hers.

I will email TH to clarify

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

Imo I think this is a refreshing change from a club just charging single guys more than everyone else and not exercising any ratio control just to make more money.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Imo I think this is a refreshing change from a club just charging single guys more than everyone else and not exercising any ratio control just to make more money. "

Thinking about I can see the logic in it and admit there has to be some control of age ratios.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Ok let me clarify....

At the moment we are over subscribed for guys who are 40 and over so with have suspended membership for this age group for now. Guys in this age range can come along to any of our non member events, of which there are usually 2 - 3 per week.

So it is not true that guys in this age range are not welcome at all!!! We just need to wait for places to come available and then we'll re-open memberships.

As for 'sparkle....' hello again my old foe lol liking the new name! Xxx

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Sorry about the typo. I obviously meant 'we' not 'with'

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"Imo I think this is a refreshing change from a club just charging single guys more than everyone else and not exercising any ratio control just to make more money.

Thinking about I can see the logic in it and admit there has to be some control of age ratios. "

Maybe when some of the old guys kick the bucket they'll start letting more in!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ok let me clarify....

So it is not true that guys in this age range are not welcome at all!!! We just need to wait for places to come available and then we'll re-open memberships.

As for 'sparkle....' hello again my old foe lol liking the new name! Xxx"

Thankyou for the clarification x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Imo I think this is a refreshing change from a club just charging single guys more than everyone else and not exercising any ratio control just to make more money.

Thinking about I can see the logic in it and admit there has to be some control of age ratios.

Maybe when some of the old guys kick the bucket they'll start letting more in!

Thanks but no thanks as I aint filling dead mans shoes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok let me clarify....

So it is not true that guys in this age range are not welcome at all!!! We just need to wait for places to come available and then we'll re-open memberships.

As for 'sparkle....' hello again my old foe lol liking the new name! Xxx"

Good to see a club looking at the ratios and doing something positive to keep it under control. Many clubs don't and that's when they can be over run with one client group.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Good to see a club looking at the ratios and doing something positive to keep it under control. Many clubs don't and that's when they can be over run with one client group."

.....says the woman aged 46 who could still get a membership to a man over 40 who couldn't!

see... if you have specific events aimed at certain people and you limit the number or type of people who can go, then i absolutely get that.... but for a general mixed event where you want general people attending, then sorry.. i think its harsh

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By *ancastermanMan
over a year ago

carnforth

As a 52 year old single guy I'm obviously excluded from this. So thanks very much. I'll stick to where my qualities are judged on something less arbitrary.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

Good to see a club looking at the ratios and doing something positive to keep it under control. Many clubs don't and that's when they can be over run with one client group.

.....says the woman aged 46 who could still get a membership to a man over 40 who couldn't!

Not an event though. They've temporarily suspended new membership applications from that specific demographic. Obviously current members who are 40+ single males can still attend the club.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

I'd also like to add that there are clubs that aren't accepting new applications from ANY GUYS at the moment. This sounds more strategic in my opinion.

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By *inky Little SecretsCouple
over a year ago

belfast

Horrible dirty place anyway

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I'd also like to add that there are clubs that aren't accepting new applications from ANY GUYS at the moment. This sounds more strategic in my opinion. "

actually i agree, if that was the decision being made, i would understand that! but being done this way seems like you are picking on a specific group from a specific group that didn't need to be the case....

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"Horrible dirty place anyway"

Now see, for me, being dirty is a good thing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good to see a club looking at the ratios and doing something positive to keep it under control. Many clubs don't and that's when they can be over run with one client group.

.....says the woman aged 46 who could still get a membership to a man over 40 who couldn't!

I'm already a member and when I've attended there have been a good mix of men from both the younger and older age ranges. Those questioning the policy maybe need to think about opening their own club. Let's see how their policies translate into the real club world.

Clubs are businesses and to be successful they need to listen to their customers and act accordingly. Something TH are doing. Suppose this gives some people something to moan about. TH is the one club in the NW that doesn't rip single men off - yet still people moan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd also like to add that there are clubs that aren't accepting new applications from ANY GUYS at the moment. This sounds more strategic in my opinion.

Have you read the rationale on the website? They have more than enough over 40's in this private members club.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"...TH is the one club in the NW that doesn't rip single men off - yet still people moan..."

This.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

and that above sounds like "wagon circling".......

so people can't say anything negative about anything now even if it is a reasonable thing to say about a clubs policy...

right.... got it!!!

that just sounds like an attempt to stiffle conversation.....

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Makes sense to me. If you had just over 40's in a club it doesn't cater for all ages who don't want to play with over 40 men. A mix of ages is a good thing

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Those questioning the policy maybe need to think about opening their own club. Let's see how their policies translate into the real club world.

Or they could answer a post on a public forum as to their thoughts without needing to open a club

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Makes sense to me. If you had just over 40's in a club it doesn't cater for all ages who don't want to play with over 40 men. A mix of ages is a good thing"

but i am guessing nothing is stopping those people under 40 from going already.... and thats the point

if you have specific events aimed at specific people then i understand why you would want to limit certain people.... but on a general night where everyone can go, thats not really ones groups fault so i think personally its unfair to pick on that group of people.....

i think you are opening a pandora's box.... what next? do you for example ban older couples from memberships because you don't have enough younger couples?

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"and that above sounds like "wagon circling".......

so people can't say anything negative about anything now even if it is a reasonable thing to say about a clubs policy...

right.... got it!!!

that just sounds like an attempt to stiffle conversation.....

Not quite. I think this is one of the more constructive conversations on this topic.

I'll give a proper breakdown in about half an hour after I finish work.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Makes sense to me. If you had just over 40's in a club it doesn't cater for all ages who don't want to play with over 40 men. A mix of ages is a good thing

but i am guessing nothing is stopping those people under 40 from going already.... and thats the point

i think you are opening a pandora's box.... what next? do you for example ban older couples from memberships because you don't have enough younger couples?"

I get what you are saying, but I also think they have to cater to their market. If say a young girl of 20 went on a non event night for a bit of fun with someone her own age and found all men there were over 40 then she may not go again as they are not what she is looking for.

If they have enough regulars over 40 going I can understand them wanting to attract other ages so you have a bit of a mix.

However, if the younger men are not joining now then I am not sure limiting the numbers will help anyway.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"Makes sense to me. If you had just over 40's in a club it doesn't cater for all ages who don't want to play with over 40 men. A mix of ages is a good thing

but i am guessing nothing is stopping those people under 40 from going already.... and thats the point

i think you are opening a pandora's box.... what next? do you for example ban older couples from memberships because you don't have enough younger couples?"

Ok, quick answer. 40+ males can still attend as a guest. If they want a membership they have to go on the waiting list. I think it's actually quite standard...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and that above sounds like "wagon circling".......

so people can't say anything negative about anything now even if it is a reasonable thing to say about a clubs policy...

right.... got it!!!

that just sounds like an attempt to stiffle conversation.....

Who exactly is stifling conversation? You are entitled to your opinion as am I. Just because I disagree does not mean you can't put your point of view across.

My point of view is based on my experiences of attending other clubs that haven't got this right. As a single fem I avoid these places, so for once positive action is only a good thing. TH, in my opinion, gets it right. You may or may not agree with me and that is fine.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

However, if the younger men are not joining now then I am not sure limiting the numbers will help anyway."

this is more the point that i am trying to make... you are in effect penalising one group of people because you are not attracting another type... and i don't think in effect closing of that avenue for people who would like to go is the answer.....

i am a great believer in that you only get once chance to make a great first impression, if that first impression is "well sorry we don't want you!" how many people are going to give them a 2nd chance when you say "come back" with open arms....

there are ways to counter this issue... splitling one group of people into "you can come/come in" and "you can't/bugger off" isn't really the best answer....

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

"Is it true that Townhouse are not accepting single guy memberships of the over 40’s or is it another unfounded rumour ?

Don't bother going it's a shit hole "

No idea who you are but you're great at talking shit!!

I have two favourite regular clubs and the townhouse is one of them - even though it's an hour's drive each way for me!

The club has a great mix of ages at events (other than their very few age specific events) and a number of bloody lovely older guys who definitely add to the 'soul' of the club and I love chatting to them. When it comes to play, however, I veer towards younger men and it's great to have younger guys there too!

I've been to clubs where they've had the same single guy clientele for many years and they've all aged accordingly - thus reducing my interest in the club tbh!

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

However, if the younger men are not joining now then I am not sure limiting the numbers will help anyway.

there are ways to counter this issue... splitling one group of people into "you can come/come in" and "you can't/bugger off" isn't really the best answer...."

What would be a better alternative?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Makes sense to me. If you had just over 40's in a club it doesn't cater for all ages who don't want to play with over 40 men. A mix of ages is a good thing

but i am guessing nothing is stopping those people under 40 from going already.... and thats the point

i think you are opening a pandora's box.... what next? do you for example ban older couples from memberships because you don't have enough younger couples?"

Maybe they are just a victim of their own success. Clubs can have waiting lists for single me. That's because they are successful. Popular with single fems and couples. That makes single men want to attend, which makes SF/couples happy. It can't just be a free for all. Business sense is a strong factor for a well run club. Run it on greed - let's get as many single men in and charge as much as we can, usually fails, the fems/couples feel uncomfortable and stop going. So no men want to go. All TH are doing is meeting the needs of their customers.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

As we watch our stats on a monthly basis, we identified in February that 68% of our male members were 40 and over. On our member only events on a Saturday, we only have 8 single guy places. We were finding that all 8 of the guys tended to be over 40 and as the crowd can be quite mixed but leaning towards under 40, the guys weren't meeting people to play and the couples/ladies who wanted to play with guys weren't meeting guys in their age range.

If we had put an age restriction on guys on the Saturday nights, that would have caused a right uproar, so we decided to allow for the natural movement of guys and wait for membership in that category to drop. We find that a lot of guys in this category eventually meet a partner and then take a couples membership, so we do lose guys over time.

We have had an increase in guys joining in the under 40 category now and numbers are starting to even out. Saturday nights have a nice mix of younger and older guys and everyone seems generally happier.

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

Now if we had said that guys over 40 weren't allowed to attend at all, I would totally get the uproar. But any guy with a current membership can attend whenever they want and non members only have the restriction on a Saturday.

As to the couple above who said we are a 'dirty little place'. We are many things but 'dirty' we are not!! Just about every club review we have had clearly states that the place is always immaculate. Also 4 floors over a massive square footage isn't little. Thanks for your 'constructive' feedback though.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

Saved me a bit of typing I think.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As we watch our stats on a monthly basis, we identified in February that 68% of our male members were 40 and over. On our member only events on a Saturday, we only have 8 single guy places. We were finding that all 8 of the guys tended to be over 40 and as the crowd can be quite mixed but leaning towards under 40, the guys weren't meeting people to play and the couples/ladies who wanted to play with guys weren't meeting guys in their age range.

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

Thankyou for detailed explanation and I will bide my time for membership but will continue as a guest of my lady friend (when possible).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never heard any complaints about the clean levels from anyone I know so that sounds like sour grapes.

Good to know some clubs actually think about what people want from parties. I would never have gone to a TH party because the reputation was older couples and guys which makes sense if you have 8 SM places and all go to guys in their 40s and 50s younger females aren't going to want to attend and it becomes self fulfilling.

So credit massively to the operators on all fronts as far as I'm concerned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

See, we've actually stopped going to a number of clubs on single guy nights just because the overwhelming majority of single guys in attendance were older than my preferred age range. Not that I see a problem with that generally, it's just that there wasn't a reason for us to go since I never found anyone I was attracted to.

I like the idea of a club taking this sort of thing into account. I like meeting single guys at clubs but age is a factor for me. A good mix of attendees is great and I think it's awesome that a club thinks about this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Makes sense to me. If you had just over 40's in a club it doesn't cater for all ages who don't want to play with over 40 men. A mix of ages is a good thing

but i am guessing nothing is stopping those people under 40 from going already.... and thats the point

i think you are opening a pandora's box.... what next? do you for example ban older couples from memberships because you don't have enough younger couples?"

Understand where you coming from but let's look at it a different way. You went to a club and there were 30 to 40 guys 40+ and about 15 under 40 but no to very few couples or single fems would you ask why. So by limiting membership it gives more opportunity to others to join and keep a well mixed group of people. The same as if they were over run with couples and very few single guys they would stop couples membership. We all want to see more single females in clubs so most clubs don't even charge single fems would you say that is wrong and they should pay the same as single guys. now yes guys 40+ are not going to think this is fair or right but then single fems couples and under 40s guys are so the Majority wins the vote.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Sounds sensible to me. Nice that a club actually think about something like this rather than just taking money and not giving a shit.

If I remember correctly this is the club that also monitor people's drinking?

Not on our doorstep but if we were in the area we'd like to visit.

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London

Anything but a shithole - an extremely well-run club. Different people like different clubs for different reasons.

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By *ancastermanMan
over a year ago

carnforth

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess this means they already have a lot of male members (as it were) above 40 and so are looking to redress the balance

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Just because people are members doesn't mean they'll attend. I don't see the logic in limiting the membership. Some may only go once or twice whilst others will be regulars. Surely you're discriminating by gender and age!

I go to a club in Glasgow where there's no membership but some nights are limited to 10 single guys. There's no age restriction but it's usually a good mix.

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By *irty filthy milfWoman
over a year ago

somewhere only i know!

Well that made interesting Saturday morning reading! TH I take my hat off and salute you for running such a successful club that I have always found to be spotless, well run and very very welcoming. As a single female I've always had a great night weather it be RAW (been to all 4 and wishing the time away for part 5), milf Monday, social, mixed night or a party night I've always had a great time and some I've even managed to get a room and stay over and must say that even after the doors close the place is spotless. So for those saying dirty and a shithole, go wind your neck in and whinge about something else! I believe it's due to rain later, perhaps that's a starter for you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well that made interesting Saturday morning reading! TH I take my hat off and salute you for running such a successful club that I have always found to be spotless, well run and very very welcoming. As a single female I've always had a great night weather it be RAW (been to all 4 and wishing the time away for part 5), milf Monday, social, mixed night or a party night I've always had a great time and some I've even managed to get a room and stay over and must say that even after the doors close the place is spotless. So for those saying dirty and a shithole, go wind your neck in and whinge about something else! I believe it's due to rain later, perhaps that's a starter for you?"

I only asked a questioning age but as it’s open discussion forum you do get the haters who digress from the original topic.

I visited TH last Wednesday as a guest of a sexy lady friend and not one complaint from me. (didn’t know about age restriction at that time otherwise the question would have been asked at the desk)

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By *rMrs CumalotCouple
over a year ago

East Mids

"Is it true that Townhouse are not accepting single guy memberships of the over 40’s or is it another unfounded rumour ?

Don't bother going it's a shit hole "

It’s far from a shit hole. On every occasion we have visited it’s been amazing nights and everyone is respectful

Would love to know why you think that way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't apply to private members clubs. Hence you can have men only clubs and women only gyms and age limits on things like Saga

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date? "

C'mon, man!

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date? "

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx

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By *ancastermanMan
over a year ago

carnforth

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx"

No need to be snarky about 'input'. I think it's a valid point. If you continue this policy then eventually you will have members going over 40 so your membership will still shift to older. So your remedy may not be the most effective. Depends how long it lasts, if it evolves with the changing demographics etc.

You've obviously got a huge amount of support and goodwill behind you, which is great, but you've confused or annoyed a few people too. The detailed information you gave was helpful and constructive, the snark about 'input' less so.

That's me trying to be constructive about this.

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

Good to see a club looking at the ratios and doing something positive to keep it under control. Many clubs don't and that's when they can be over run with one client group.

.....says the woman aged 46 who could still get a membership to a man over 40 who couldn't!

I'm sure that if the place was overrun with single females then TH would temporarily restrict new memeberships for them

I have membership but I don't go very much as I am looking to play with single guys and I found that most of them were too old for my preference. Happy to see TH addressing this!

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

The club is a bit far out of our travelling distance. But their description of what they are doing seems well thought out, fair and managing the needs of their members and customers.

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over a year ago

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

You don't help yourself here , the man only asked a question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd prefer to see a policy adopted along the lines of "no fat blokes or aesthetically challenged guys over 40yrs" ...I went to one club with a female partner & it was full of both (it's not arousing to see some slaphead with a big gut & a boner) ...presumably if you're running a club where single guys get the chance to bury their beef bayonet into someone else's wife, then you're going to be able to pick & choose...I'd like to see clubs pick & choose.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Sounds like a good idea to try and bring the age down a bit.

Makes you wonder how people cope with the big things in life? Butt hurt much.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx

That's me trying to be constructive about this. "

Mate, if you read above you'll see the bit about single guys getting attached to single women (controversial, I know) and forming a couple. Also, some guys leave the swinging lifestyle and go vanilla. I know I made a joke about it before but I guess that some do pass away! That's only THREE ways that a 40 year old can avoid the "dreaded demographic"!

Suggesting that the club would eject a guy for being over 40, especially if he was a long time member of good character was NOT being constructive. The owners were obviously being diplomatic by referring to your post as "input". Maybe that was inaccurate but not for the reason YOU think!

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

You don't help yourself here , the man only asked a question"

A question which was already answered previously.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

First off all I salute townhouse for actually monitoring their membership and listening and taking note of the issues.

At first I was shocked when I read the initial few messages and I would have ranted if over 40.

Logically it makes sense. They have realised they need more under 40s coming. So they have to freeze the membership so that the split becomes more equal.

Another way could be maybe to offer a introduction to under 40s to build up the membership example if annual cost was 50 quid maybe 35 and a free night.

I personally don’t go because it is in area I won’t go (anywhere near Merseyside brings me out in a rash), also I can’t come on any other night other than a Saturday which makes it hard for registration.

Also maybe they could waiver this so you could say show an interest ahead of a Saturday night and register on the Saturday if your under 40

Anyway I hope what ever the club decides that it works

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

private clubs are still covered by the law of the land, the EQUALITY ACT covers private clubs as well as non private ..

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple
over a year ago

nr chester

Ahhh people, people, people, it never ceases to amaze me how many people hop on a thread and comment before even reading through it, most of the comments made and the argument being had is due to the fact that the op didn't read the Website information( sorry op buy if you had, then you never would have needed to ask the question) and people not reading the clubs explanation properly, and as for the ridiculous comments made that's it dirty or a shithole, well I actually take them quite personally, seen as TH is our regular club, I can assure you that I am far from someone who would be somewhere dirty or a shithole.

I suppose the moral is, you can't please all of the people all of the time, but rest assured Vicky and Jim come bloody close, and they will always go over and above to make TH the amazing club it is, the reason for this is because they have passion, they adore what they do, it's not just a cash cow, it's their life, and to be bloody fair to them, most of their life is spent at the club, they don't just have customers, you're not just a number, you're a friend, and that's exactly how it should be

Mrs blue eyes

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

You don't help yourself here , the man only asked a question

A question which was already answered previously."

Maybe he hadn't read it previously. If the club owners want to come across as sarcastic when asked a question, as I say, it doesn't help themselves

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over a year ago

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

You don't help yourself here , the man only asked a question

A question which was already answered previously.

Maybe he hadn't read it previously. If the club owners want to come across as sarcastic when asked a question, as I say, it doesn't help themselves"

That's tame compared to some of the responses that are posted from other clubs in the north. Of course I won't name them. Maybe it's the no nonsense northern spirit that has been lost in translation.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Or sarcasm and

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or sarcasm and

Yeh dry northern sarcastic wit. Rarely understood past the watford gap (or insert own landmark to avoid offense)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This OP did read the website and memberships tab but failed to click the singles tab. I apologise if it has caused any distress and was in no way intended too escalate as it has.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"This OP did read the website and memberships tab but failed to click the singles tab. I apologise if it has caused any distress and was in no way intended too escalate as it has.

i don't think it has esculated at all.... other than one or 2 snide "hit and run" comments, i think the topic of what is in effect age discrimination has been an interesting one......

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"This OP did read the website and memberships tab but failed to click the singles tab. I apologise if it has caused any distress and was in no way intended too escalate as it has.

i don't think it has esculated at all.... other than one or 2 snide "hit and run" comments, i think the topic of what is in effect age discrimination has been an interesting one......

I agree. I actually thanked the OP for starting the thread as it's generated interesting perspectives

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"Or sarcasm and

Yeh dry northern sarcastic wit. Rarely understood past the watford gap (or insert own landmark to avoid offense)

You are telling someone who was born in the North . Sarcasm isn't confined to the north though but it depends on the intention as to wether it comes across as wit or not

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By *ustagentMan
over a year ago

wa14

having read the replies ,i would think its the quality of the clientel and not the age ,i see lots of guys under 40 who tbh are so unfit etc and dont look after themselves,also is this the thin end of the wedge ,race, size, etc can creep in, im not saying th is like this, but things can get out of hand

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

So you have aload of under forty and they don't want to play with anyone over fifty-five are you banning the over fifty-five ladies cause all the under forty men want to play with younger women

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By *ancastermanMan
over a year ago

carnforth

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx

That's me trying to be constructive about this.

Well if we're talking about reading properly. The question of rescinding membership was not in the more detailed post where i attempted to be constructive about how to respond to people.

My original point, which people seem to have missed, was about the arbitrary nature of an age cut off. Hence my exaggerated rhetorical questions.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx

That's me trying to be constructive about this.

Well if we're talking about reading properly. The question of rescinding membership was not in the more detailed post where i attempted to be constructive about how to respond to people.

My original point, which people seem to have missed, was about the arbitrary nature of an age cut off. Hence my exaggerated rhetorical questions.

Now THAT'S constructive!

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Clubs do verify ages properly don't they, like driving licence ID? Not like on here where folk just think of a number

There would be some still unhappy with a no under 50s or even under 60s ban.

non members (any over 40s)are allowed on other nights, including Friday. Don't see what the fuss is from the few....

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple
over a year ago

nr chester

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx

That's me trying to be constructive about this.

Well if we're talking about reading properly. The question of rescinding membership was not in the more detailed post where i attempted to be constructive about how to respond to people.

My original point, which people seem to have missed, was about the arbitrary nature of an age cut off. Hence my exaggerated rhetorical questions.

As it is, any under 40 can join regardless of experience or character, but a guy of 41 with good references would be rejected. So I feel there should be some more flexible option. How about 'Single guys over 40 are *unlikely* to be accepted *unless highly recommended by established members*' ? "
. Ah, but this is where you are very wrong, as not just anyone under 40 can join,Th have an induction night on a Wednesday, this gives the guys a chance to get to know the club and the club a chance to get to know the guys, it has to work for both sides and only then are the guys considered, so I'm sorry it's not a free for all regardless of age, and it works, you will go far and wide to find a club more respectful and full of more respectful people

Mrs blue eyes

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple
over a year ago

nr chester

"So you have aload of under forty and they don't want to play with anyone over fifty-five are you banning the over fifty-five ladies cause all the under forty men want to play with younger women "
. Ha, you'd be suprised, the younger guys love an older lady

but that said, that's not how it works, on the Saturday nights, it's a mix of both ages, there is an 8 guy limit and it's always a good mix, then on the non- member nights it works the same, it's a great mix of all ages

Mrs blue eyes

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Just to be clear over 40s are not banned. Current members can still attend. So they are just controlling ratios.

They could do the same for couples and single women, or younger groups if they also became over subscribed.

Either you manage a club or you leave it to the market to manage itself.

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By *lub Rouge ManchesterCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Anyone fancy fake driving licences just drop us a line. ...... as recently used by the very old naked mr darcy ( he's welcome to come to your bingo and basket weaving event for the over 40s)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another club we will not attend. Ageism is wrong just as sexism and racism are wrong. You can call it controlling ratios or anything else you want but discrimination is discrimination no matter how you dress it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have you read any of this thread? You know what I wouldn't run a club for all the money in the world. Having to deal with sensitive souls day in day out must be soul destroying. Just goes to show no matter what you do you can't please everyone. Carry on as you are TH.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Yep, all people are seeing is the 'no new membership' they are not seeing that this only affects a Saturday night and that it's temporary

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple
over a year ago

nr chester

"Another club we will not attend. Ageism is wrong just as sexism and racism are wrong. You can call it controlling ratios or anything else you want but discrimination is discrimination no matter how you dress it up. "
. Correct me if I'm wrong but surely it's only ageism if the club doesn't allow anyone of a particular age group, this however is not the case, the club have hundreds of members in the over 40s age group, they were merely pointing out that for the time being, they can not take any more new over 40 single members, so they are happy for anyone to attend the club but if there is a members only event and you are over 40 and not a member, then you can go on a waiting list but for the moment they won't be taking people from that waiting list, and you can't attend the members only night.

This makes sense, because if over 40s are sitting waiting to be picked off the list then they'll be disapointed when it doesn't happen for a while, at least they know that it may be some time, in the meantime there are lots of non- member events that the guys can attend happily, it's a fantastic club with a great mix of people and events, but as I've said already, you can't please all of the people, all of the time but ageist it most certainly isn't

Mrs blue eyes

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

Yep, all people are seeing is the 'no new membership' they are not seeing that this only affects a Saturday night and that it's temporary

Yeah but rumours and supposition are far more interesting than boring old facts

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over a year ago

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx

That's me trying to be constructive about this.

Well if we're talking about reading properly. The question of rescinding membership was not in the more detailed post where i attempted to be constructive about how to respond to people.

My original point, which people seem to have missed, was about the arbitrary nature of an age cut off. Hence my exaggerated rhetorical questions.

I don't think that is the case any single guy who wants to join town house have to go on a certain night and get checked out. I really don't think th will just give membership to anyone just because there under 40.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Like I have said, we will re-open that category again in time, it's just a temporary thing. All Thursday and Friday events are open to non members, so guys over 40 can attend no problem.

It's a business which must meet the needs of customers and when the most popular night of the week isn't working, we must act and we did so in a way we felt would correct the situation, which it has.

So are you going to rescind membership to existing members on the day they turn 41? Or when they're up for renewal after that date?

If you read the thread and our website properly it says this applies to new memberships!! Plus, our memberships are free so there's no renewal...again that's on the website lol

Thanks for your 'input' though

Great thread and food for thought. Thanks OP for starting the thread so ww had the chance to clarify and generate discussion xxx

That's me trying to be constructive about this.

Well if we're talking about reading properly. The question of rescinding membership was not in the more detailed post where i attempted to be constructive about how to respond to people.

My original point, which people seem to have missed, was about the arbitrary nature of an age cut off. Hence my exaggerated rhetorical questions.

No we don't. As MrsMcDuck explained earlier, we ask all new single guys to attend an induction held every Weds where we met our prospective new guys for the first time, show them around, talk about the rules and gauge their understanding of swinging. We don't want guys who think that paying an entry = guaranteed sex. We also want guys who will be respectful of the club, our rules and our guests. So if a new guy of any age pitched up unannounced, they won't get in. If a guy under 40 attends an induction and turns up in sportswear, no ID and a bad attitude, he won't get a membership.

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over a year ago

Yep, all people are seeing is the 'no new membership' they are not seeing that this only affects a Saturday night and that it's temporary

People only see what they want to see and I bet most of the ones slating you haven't even been to your club. If they had they would know that you and your staff are far from being prejudiced against anyone. As you say it's a Saturday only and not many clubs have single guys in on a Saturday so that says it all really

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Yep. This thread has made our decision for us too and I prefer younger guys. Capping ages is wrong whichever way you dress it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep. This thread has made our decision for us too and I prefer younger guys. Capping ages is wrong whichever way you dress it up. "

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

Yep, all people are seeing is the 'no new membership' they are not seeing that this only affects a Saturday night and that it's temporary

So if less guys turn up, there will be more action for those that actually understand what's going on here!

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By *ester!Man
over a year ago

Cheshire

Yep. This thread has made our decision for us too and I prefer younger guys. Capping ages is wrong whichever way you dress it up. "

It's not capping ages though is it? It's temporary freezing one age group while another catches up with subscription. Men over 40 still attend the club using their FREE membership that doesn't need to be renewed. Men over 40 that aren't members can still attend some events too when membership isn't needed. So how is the club capping ages? It's making it more equal and balanced and catering for as many customers as possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, all people are seeing is the 'no new membership' they are not seeing that this only affects a Saturday night and that it's temporary

So if less guys turn up, there will be more action for those that actually understand what's going on here!

lol that's one way at looking at it. Just like I'm sure the town house is now going to struggle to pay the bills now a 2 or 3 will never go lol. Not the fact that anytime the club is open anyone is welcome unless it's a party done by someone else. The fact that it's probably the only club that has single guys in on Saturdays yet they get accused of discriminating yet over 40s can go any other time apart from a Saturday. But you can't please everyone and as this thread proves everyone who goes to th are behind them.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Yep. This thread has made our decision for us too and I prefer younger guys. Capping ages is wrong whichever way you dress it up. "

Caps are required to even out ratios. Sure a 20 year old can play with a 60 year. But Generally people tend to gravitate towards their own age ranges. If there is an over supply of 40 something males then you have 3 choices.

Control prices, control quantity or do nothing.

Do nothing and you get a situation where when people don't get what they want they will start to look elsewhere.

Control price, offer discounts to younger men or push up old male prices.

Control quantities, allow more males under 40 to join or restrict the over 40s.

Either way someone will get upset, either the restricted males or the couples and females not finding what they want.

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By *eadonistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Ashton under Lyne

Don't bother going it's a shit hole

It looks immaculate on their website, we've been to a couple of clubs we thought were shitholes and wouldn't go back, townhouse certainly doesn't look like it falls in to that bracket. "

It isnt. Personally it's one of the best clubs I the NW, especially if your into the link side of the game.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

I do wonder given the opportunity this has provided to troll the club, whether in future such restrictions would be best not to publicise?

It would have been quite simple to make this an internal process, the only thing that the applicant for membership would have known is that their application was rejected.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"I do wonder given the opportunity this has provided to troll the club,

Having an opinion about a club or any new policy is not trolling. As TH have answered questions and clarified things on here they don't seem to think it is a problem either.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"I do wonder given the opportunity this has provided to troll the club, whether in future such restrictions would be best not to publicise?

It would have been quite simple to make this an internal process, the only thing that the applicant for membership would have known is that their application was rejected. "

This has been publicised since the spring and this is the first thread posted about the policy, so it's been out there for ages with no issue whatsoever.

The policy has worked well, our new guys over 40 are more than happy to attend all of our fantastic non member events thus far, knowing that when we re-open membership, they will be given their membership card as we know them already.

I'm not going to lie to our customers. I would rather tell our guys the truth and that membership will re-open soon, rather than squash their confidence and say that their membership application was unsuccessful!! That would mean that they never come to the club at all! At least at the moment, they can attend our non member events.

Some people won't like what we are doing. That is their opinion and if they stay away, then that's up to them and I'm not going to fight for their custom! lol But nobody can understand the decisions a club has to make unless they are running it. It's a complicated game and how we run satisfies the majority of our customers. I gave up trying to please 100% of the people 100% of the time a very long time ago...it's an impossible task and there's other clubs out there that would suit their needs and morals.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

" Having an opinion about a club is not trolling. As TH have answered questions and clarified things on here they don't seem to think it is a problem either"

A question is fair game, however there have also been comments that are blatant nothing to do with the issue.

Im sure if I questioned my MPs policies on twitter that would be fine. If I called them a dirty little shit hole most would see that as me being a troll.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

All opinions are fine.

The person giving that opinion was shot down by many, so for someone who hasn't been to the place ( us ) we would take no notice of the comment and go with the majority as I am guessing many would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd prefer to see a policy adopted along the lines of "no fat blokes or aesthetically challenged guys over 40yrs" ...I went to one club with a female partner & it was full of both (it's not arousing to see some slaphead with a big gut & a boner) ...presumably if you're running a club where single guys get the chance to bury their beef bayonet into someone else's wife, then you're going to be able to pick & choose...I'd like to see clubs pick & choose."

There are clubs that pick on what someone looks like and we wouldn't want to go.

Makes sense what the TH are doing and they in my experience are a club that is always listening to its customers.

As to the shit hole comments.. come on.. have you even been

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over a year ago

"There are clubs that pick on what someone looks like and we wouldn't want to go. "

So, bearing in mind a club vibe is meant to be sensual/erotically charged ....you're ok with obese aesthetically challenged slapheads hoping to get lucky?

Personally, when I've attended a club with a lady (& ponied up quite a bit to be there) I'd like to see a bit more quality! (it's not as if clubs haven't sufficient single male applicants)

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple
over a year ago

nr chester

"There are clubs that pick on what someone looks like and we wouldn't want to go.

So, bearing in mind a club vibe is meant to be sensual/erotically charged ....you're ok with obese aesthetically challenged slapheads hoping to get lucky?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are clubs that pick on what someone looks like and we wouldn't want to go.

So, bearing in mind a club vibe is meant to be sensual/erotically charged ....you're ok with obese aesthetically challenged slapheads hoping to get lucky?

Personally, when I've attended a club with a lady (& ponied up quite a bit to be there) I'd like to see a bit more quality! (it's not as if clubs haven't sufficient single male applicants)"
as an obese person myself ..should I not be there..? And yes im ok with people of any shape.. size.. looks being there.. But I only play with people that I find attractive...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"There are clubs that pick on what someone looks like and we wouldn't want to go.

So, bearing in mind a club vibe is meant to be sensual/erotically charged ....you're ok with obese aesthetically challenged slapheads hoping to get lucky?

Personally, when I've attended a club with a lady (& ponied up quite a bit to be there) I'd like to see a bit more quality! (it's not as if clubs haven't sufficient single male applicants)"

and how would someone check for personality and humility.... because you seem to be lacking in some.....

swinging isn't just about the physicial for a lot of people i know...

there are a few clubs that do cater for people like you who want other pretty people, lets see if you would be accepted.....

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over a year ago

there are a few clubs that do cater for people like you who want other pretty people, lets see if you would be accepted.....

Well, I do have a membership at Le Boudoir (so there's your answer) ...like I say, the "overweight monk sporting a boner look" is not the type of vibe I want to be seeing in a club (that I've paid good money to enter)....but I realise that make me appear gender-ist, so equally, I also I don't want to be paying good money to enter a club only to see a naked 50yr+ woman who has modelled herself on Anne Widdecombe.

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