FabSwingers.com forum: Getting pissed at clubs

By *i tor and the snowdog OP Couple
over a year ago

walsall/coventry

Went to chams last night

And I was amazed at the amount of people getting rat arsed before they play

Why?

If you can't play or enjoy other people without getting pissed

Is swinging really for you?

A lovely cpl we saw and chatted to became quite vile as the night went on

Hammered

Another woman was falling over pissed

I'm sure you will all have some explainations for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They need to be pissed to watch their partner fuck other people. They'd rather not be there. Beer goggles. etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's dangerous playing with pissed people. How can you be sure they consent?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never visited a club (yet)

But I would imagine having too much to drink may make you slightly vulnerable and could lead to mixed messages/unwanted advances to play?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I've only been to a club once and I certainly didn't drink. I wanted to be in full control of what happened,a woman who was d*unk decided to go on the pole,it wasn't a pretty sight when she fell of it and landed in a heap!

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

I posted about this last Sunday but didn't name the clubs involved but Chams was the worst and we complained as we left.

Complete liability. I don't know why any club would allow this.

As well as being embarrassing nuisances they are at risk of injuring themselves and open to non consensual sex.

Just wrong. Every visit there's always at least one d*unk or stinking of stale booze.

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By *hebagsCouple
over a year ago

worcestershire

It takes alsorts,we never get d*unk at clubs,and never play with people who are d*unk,everyone has know wot there doing,just I case it all kicks off!!! We have seen it happen. And it's not nice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If im there socially i will drink dance have fun but not play. Xtasisa and chams.

If im looking to play I dont dtink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't drink if I want to have pokey times, I get brewer's droop quite easily and even if I don't I just can't get to the vinegar strokes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Biggest issue, as noted above, is that of consent.....I would stay well clear of anyone in this situation...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is swinging really for you?"

No. Swinging is not for a lot of people. They pollute this site with their timewasting/indecisive/drink fueled antics.

There is a couple I meet here semi regularly. Perfectly decent people but they almost always ask me if I have any before we meet up. The wife disappears half way through the meet sometime too. I sit there and ask myself whether they really actually enjoy this activity at all anyway???

People gave me shit for not being too keen on those who would talk to you without any intention of playing. Now, yes, I understand the environment can be intimidating and plenty of people like the social side. But if you're really coming to a swingers club, not actually partaking in any swinging and, when you do, needing to become piss d*unk to do it...are u really even enjoying it???

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

We often play sober as mr dosnt drink anymore and we have played d*unk just as often. All depends on the mood we are in, nothing to do with needing to drink to watch eachother.

We dont goto pubs, we dont drink at home. We are adults and can take responsibility for our actions d*unk or sober (non of this I was d*unk and dont remember bollox)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I posted about this last Sunday but didn't name the clubs involved but Chams was the worst and we complained as we left.

Complete liability. I don't know why any club would allow this.

As well as being embarrassing nuisances they are at risk of injuring themselves and open to non consensual sex.

Just wrong. Every visit there's always at least one d*unk or stinking of stale booze. "

Interestingly enough, I dont hear this happening as much in Xtasia. It also seems like Xtasia is a far more play centric club. Could be wrong...but thats the impression I get. The same with VA. I think new/unusual sexual experiences are probably best attempted without a lot of liquid courage.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"I can't drink if I want to have pokey times, I get brewer's droop quite easily and even if I don't I just can't get to the vinegar strokes. "

How attractive is this?????

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Have seen it a number of times in clubs (including VA poster above) and it's never a pretty sight - especially when said d*unk people are impacting on others around them.

To be fair whenever I've seen people totally out of it at VA, the club have been pretty good at dealing with it.

Personally I don't tend to drink at all when I visit clubs, preferring to stay in control and get the maximum pleasure from any visit.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Just wrong, enough said!

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

The comment above, is an intresting one. Have seen far more couples on drugs in clubs, where concent was a concern than those drinking.

Though these days we spend more time in club now, with wiggles behind the bar and me showing folk around and keeping an eye out than just playing. So we get to socialize more and know who is drinking or not.

Once had a lady who was on pass out and her partner just said "carry on" we declined.. never had similar with drinking.

Did fall down stairs at chams once though lol, but that was more s case of hottub + booze = bad.. went from merry to holly fuck im d*unk very fast.. wiggles took the piss out of me and I missed a great play session

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've seen it plenty of times

Mostly women on vodka or wine. Only seen a few guys d*unk in a club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Were these pissed people forcing you to play op?

Were they throwing up or lying comatose in the play rooms or walk ways?

There's too many moaning minnies berating the actions of others .

Ignore them,don't play with them,I'm sure they didn't set out to disrupt your evening,but more to enjoy their own in how they saw fit.

If they were really so d*unk that they weren't in control of their actions I'm sure the staff would have been made aware and sorted it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't drink if I want to have pokey times, I get brewer's droop quite easily and even if I don't I just can't get to the vinegar strokes.

How attractive is this?????

I'm sorry, I didn't realise I was in the forums to be attractive to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The comment above, is an intresting one. Have seen far more couples on drugs in clubs, where concent was a concern than those drinking.

Once had a lady who was on pass out and her partner just said "carry on" we declined.. never had similar with drinking.

There seems to be tons of drug use and bareback sex in clubs and yet people come on forums and like to act morally indignant whenever someone makes a thread about them.

I mean, I dont even think a sex club would work without a little alcohol but if you cant control your liquor then I tend to assume one probably can hardly control their cock/pussy either.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i think this is where some clubs are more proactive than others in have they deal with it....

my local club i am proud to say keeps an eye on the patrons and refuses to serve them any more alcohol if they deem then to have had too many.....

we know there is a difference between "dutch courage" and getting smashed

i just say to people that d*unk isn't sexy.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't drink if I want to have pokey times, I get brewer's droop quite easily and even if I don't I just can't get to the vinegar strokes.

How attractive is this?????

Includes 3 quotes I haven't heard since school

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"I can't drink if I want to have pokey times, I get brewer's droop quite easily and even if I don't I just can't get to the vinegar strokes.

How attractive is this?????

I'm sorry, I didn't realise I was in the forums to be attractive to you

I meant the words....!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

There seems to be tons of drug use and bareback sex in clubs and yet people come on forums and like to act morally indignant whenever someone makes a thread about them.

I mean, I dont even think a sex club would work without a little alcohol but if you cant control your liquor then I tend to assume one probably can hardly control their cock/pussy either. "

you are undermining the point you are trying to make by comparing bareback sex and drug use in the same point....

last time i checked, bareback sex isn't illegal (that is up to the people concerned) drug use is!

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"The comment above, is an intresting one. Have seen far more couples on drugs in clubs, where concent was a concern than those drinking.

Once had a lady who was on pass out and her partner just said "carry on" we declined.. never had similar with drinking.

There seems to be tons of drug use and bareback sex in clubs and yet people come on forums and like to act morally indignant whenever someone makes a thread about them.

I mean, I dont even think a sex club would work without a little alcohol but if you cant control your liquor then I tend to assume one probably can hardly control their cock/pussy either. "

Indeed control is a good thing, we normally only drink to a certain point and when d*unk only play with eachother. The drink pluss hottub effect was an intresting lesson.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pissed up women is the only way some guys get to play

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There seems to be tons of drug use and bareback sex in clubs and yet people come on forums and like to act morally indignant whenever someone makes a thread about them.

I mean, I dont even think a sex club would work without a little alcohol but if you cant control your liquor then I tend to assume one probably can hardly control their cock/pussy either.

you are undermining the point you are trying to make by comparing bareback sex and drug use in the same point....

last time i checked, bareback sex isn't illegal (that is up to the people concerned) drug use is!

Er...what? Alcohol is a drug. So is a cigarette. Huh???

And yes, poor self control tends to be transferrable. The fact that people are sitting here calling people "complainers" for not being on board with the fact that there are d*unks in the club is tragic. We have all heard about the law regard consent and the inability to provide such when inebriated. Its like people here want to absolve themselves of every kind of responsibility.

I had a shitty experience in a party in London where a girl was playing "hard to get" and sending mixed messages which could have easily gotten out of hand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Were these pissed people forcing you to play op?

Were they throwing up or lying comatose in the play rooms or walk ways?

There's too many moaning minnies berating the actions of others .

Ignore them,don't play with them,I'm sure they didn't set out to disrupt your evening,but more to enjoy their own in how they saw fit.

If they were really so d*unk that they weren't in control of their actions I'm sure the staff would have been made aware and sorted it."

yep! Absolutely...each to their own!

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Pissed up women is the only way some guys get to play

This I can believe...!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

There seems to be tons of drug use and bareback sex in clubs and yet people come on forums and like to act morally indignant whenever someone makes a thread about them.

I mean, I dont even think a sex club would work without a little alcohol but if you cant control your liquor then I tend to assume one probably can hardly control their cock/pussy either.

you are undermining the point you are trying to make by comparing bareback sex and drug use in the same point....

last time i checked, bareback sex isn't illegal (that is up to the people concerned) drug use is!

Er...what? Alcohol is a drug. So is a cigarette. Huh???

I had a shitty experience in a party in London where a girl was playing "hard to get" and sending mixed messages which could have easily gotten out of hand. "

who here has said they are on-board with anyone being d*unk at a club..... no one!!!!

if someone is using drugs in a club... tell the staff!!! you were the one who said drug use and bareback sex, no one else....

I am not advocating for bareback sex, but it aint illegal.... drug use is!

and if someone is playing so hard to get that you can't assume consent then don't go there... simple as!!!

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"Were these pissed people forcing you to play op?

Were they throwing up or lying comatose in the play rooms or walk ways?

There's too many moaning minnies berating the actions of others .

Ignore them,don't play with them,I'm sure they didn't set out to disrupt your evening,but more to enjoy their own in how they saw fit.

If they were really so d*unk that they weren't in control of their actions I'm sure the staff would have been made aware and sorted it."

Dom here...

I have seen on many occasions d*unk people bimbling, staggering and on our last visit being held upright on her silly high heels.

They then enter open rooms shouting ffing and blinding to make sure that others cannot enjoy their own fun.

When you do "advise" them as to their conduct, you are verbally abused for your troubles. Totally unacceptable, yes we have reported it on many occasions and yet it still continues. Even on that day a woman (whom I might add was working up to another d*unken frenzy), had been warned as to her d*unken conduct the night before, was quite proudly boasting that she is herself indeed facing a ban her misdeeds. Shocking...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heard an awful lot of negative stuff like this r.e. Chameleons. Have to admit it's pretty off-putting. Having been to VA and Libs we've not seen anything quite like the way this reads. Guess different clubs attract different people, which is probably a good thing as those going will either like, or not like the way a place is run and either gravitate to or away from certain places.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I was thinking of going to a club but this has put me off.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Interesting thread ...

We recall the drink and drug fuelled late night antics at clubs when we used to go , and it's one of the reasons we don't go any more . The other reason is the fact that so many people attend clubs just to socialise ( and often also get pissed ) .

We are proud to say we have never played when d*unk , and never will . I personally don't touch alcohol or drugs , and my wife never has more than a single glass of wine on a night out , and also doesn't use any drugs . Plenty of people in the scene do , and clubs seem th ideal place to do both .

Hardly a good advert for the swinging lifestyle is it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen it at clubs, but actually never seen males d*unk like women. One club visited had four women, who seemed there to take advantage of BYO and got legless, proceeded to be really obnoxious in the play rooms; couples mainly would have nothing to do with them. But sure enough, there were single guys willing to step up. Shameful really.

But it's probably more a societal than a swinging one. The club should have thrown them out, the cynic in me makes me think a club is never throwing single women out.

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By *aughtySxTV/TS
over a year ago

Wigan Bolton North West

Vodka is goooood

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"I've seen it at clubs, but actually never seen males d*unk like women. One club visited had four women, who seemed there to take advantage of BYO and got legless, proceeded to be really obnoxious in the play rooms; couples mainly would have nothing to do with them. But sure enough, there were single guys willing to step up. Shameful really.

But it's probably more a societal than a swinging one. The club should have thrown them out, the cynic in me makes me think a club is never throwing single women out. "

I agree it's mainly women you see d*unk at clubs. Maybe they don't really want to be there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But it's probably more a societal than a swinging one. The club should have thrown them out, the cynic in me makes me think a club is never throwing single women out.

I agree it's mainly women you see d*unk at clubs. Maybe they don't really want to be there? "

This is my feeling on it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was thinking of going to a club but this has put me off. "

Same

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP Couple
over a year ago

walsall/coventry

"Were these pissed people forcing you to play op?

Were they throwing up or lying comatose in the play rooms or walk ways?

There's too many moaning minnies berating the actions of others .

Ignore them,don't play with them,I'm sure they didn't set out to disrupt your evening,but more to enjoy their own in how they saw fit.

If they were really so d*unk that they weren't in control of their actions I'm sure the staff would have been made aware and sorted it."

Touched a nerve ???

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By *i tor and the snowdog OP Couple
over a year ago

walsall/coventry

I'd like to add to this that I have no issue with the club

Quite the contrary

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I was thinking of going to a club but this has put me off.

Same

Sadly You only ever hear the bad things about clubs, rarely the good things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There seems to be tons of drug use and bareback sex in clubs and yet people come on forums and like to act morally indignant whenever someone makes a thread about them.

I mean, I dont even think a sex club would work without a little alcohol but if you cant control your liquor then I tend to assume one probably can hardly control their cock/pussy either.

you are undermining the point you are trying to make by comparing bareback sex and drug use in the same point....

last time i checked, bareback sex isn't illegal (that is up to the people concerned) drug use is!

Er...what? Alcohol is a drug. So is a cigarette. Huh???

I had a shitty experience in a party in London where a girl was playing "hard to get" and sending mixed messages which could have easily gotten out of hand.

who here has said they are on-board with anyone being d*unk at a club..... no one!!!!

if someone is using drugs in a club... tell the staff!!! you were the one who said drug use and bareback sex, no one else....

I am not advocating for bareback sex, but it aint illegal.... drug use is!

and if someone is playing so hard to get that you can't assume consent then don't go there... simple as!!!"

What part of "alcohol is a drug" do you not understand?

Any kind of drug use will have an impact on the ability to reasonably consent. Yes, alcohol is also one of these drugs. By sitting here saying people who dislike d*unks in the club are "complainers" is indeed saying you're on board with there being d*unks in the club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But it's probably more a societal than a swinging one. The club should have thrown them out, the cynic in me makes me think a club is never throwing single women out.

I agree it's mainly women you see d*unk at clubs. Maybe they don't really want to be there?

This is my feeling on it too. "

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pissed up women is the only way some guys get to play

This I can believe...! "

Yeah I carry a litre of vodka to every meet

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

We've only had bad experiences from d*unk people. Fell in to the mistake a few times, never again.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"I was thinking of going to a club but this has put me off.

Same

I'd say don't let it. The d*unkeness we have seen is with people we've chosen to speak and play with and regretted it after. Personally not seen d*unk people impacting on others. If they were, I think they'd be quickly chucked out

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Pissed up women is the only way some guys get to play

This I can believe...!

Yeah I carry a litre of vodka to every meet

Only a litre?

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"I was thinking of going to a club but this has put me off.

Same

Sadly You only ever hear the bad things about clubs, rarely the good things.

I hear lots of bad things on here about clubs which is not what a woman contemplating going needs to hear!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pissed up women is the only way some guys get to play

This I can believe...!

Yeah I carry a litre of vodka to every meet

Only a litre? "

Well I don't wanna appear too eager

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair its an issue that has always been on the scene.. And I see as many d*unk people if not more at private events than clubs.

Ive had several incidences where a d*unk woman has mauled me. Maybe a strong word but one even just bite my nipple with no warning and I dont mean a nip. Another tried to force my legs apart.. this has happened at clubs and privately.

Clubs do try to keep a check but people send others for drinks or keep drink in their locker ...

Have seen d*unk guys but not often.

As to why. Many need it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When we go to clubs, we only ever have max two drinks. Even if we are staying local, we have never swapped d*unk, nor will play with d*unk people. We much rather everyone to be in the moment enjoying it, and basically not pissed.

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple
over a year ago

wirral

I'd just not risk it.

I was seriously sexually assaulted when I was d*unk, just not something I'd like to happen again... Got to keep your wits about you

(This wasn't a swinging event or anything btw)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can drink a fair bit. Took 70cl bottle of vodka to Secrets. Yes, I know, classy....,

But never ever ever would I get pissed at a club. It wouldn't make me do things with people just because I was pissed...I'd more likely just make a fool of myself

Big big fear of mine. If I feel a little woo hoo then I'm on the water. End of

Got invited to chams tonight...should be interesting...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We wont play with d*unk people. X

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By *teemy adventuresCouple
over a year ago

somewhere nearby

Nothing wrong with having a couple of drinks to sort nerves out but getting pissed is wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But it's probably more a societal than a swinging one. The club should have thrown them out, the cynic in me makes me think a club is never throwing single women out.

I agree it's mainly women you see d*unk at clubs. Maybe they don't really want to be there? "

Think it's more of a confidence thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We wont play with d*unk people. X"

Totally off putting

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By *amdenfunMan
over a year ago

London

To a large extent, isn't alcohol just a habit - in most parts of our society, people drink a little or maybe one too many on social occasions. It doesn't go at all well with swinging, but as most people enjoy a drink and habitually drink when they socialise, it probably just happens. And also maybe if there is a lot of socialising at the club before any play begins, people aren't sure what to so, drink as they normally would, and suddenly they're drank too much.

Not excusing the behaviour, just adding another explanation.

As to the bareback v (illegal) drug discussion - is whether something is is isbn't against the law really our main arbiter of how immoral it is? I was quite surprised at the assumption that drugs are far worse. Bareback in club seems rather risky.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I drink when I go to clubs but I never get staggering around d*unk. I very rarely play as I have a certain type that I don't find very often so more often than not my nights are social.

I believe swinging is as much social as it is sex, people like to get to know each other and what better place to do that than a swingers club?

I agree that people getting paralytic is dangerous for themselves and others, what I don't agree with is that people shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions regarding alcohol (within reason) and that 'too many people go just to socialise', if I want to go to a club to socialise then that's what I'll do, there are no rules against it.

Rant over

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By *entleman JayMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Casual sex and alcohol is not a great mix.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clubs nowadays seem to be very much filled with people re living there lost youth, the drink, drugs and being regulars fulfils there need to attach themselves to that time, with sexual play just being an additional add on at the most...

Pretty sad really, some even think they are something special as they've chatted to the owners, DJ, host etc, just like they thought they were part of something when they were younger and get what, the club they go to is the best club of course!

People who need drink to play are deluded...

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By *itvclaireTV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

Can't think of anything worse. Don't enjoy getting d*unk anyway. When I'm at a club I want to enjoy myself and most importantly remember the my evening.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Sober as I need to drive home. D*unks aren't that attractive as a rule

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Clubs nowadays seem to be very much filled with people re living there lost youth, the drink, drugs and being regulars fulfils there need to attach themselves to that time, with sexual play just being an additional add on at the most...

People who need drink to play are deluded..."

Deluded in what way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging."

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

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By *ldhillhotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Old Hill

We certainly don't get d*unk but we do have a couple of drinks whilst in the club.

We have witnessed a group of d*unk single women creating havoc whilst pissed going around play areas shouting 'encouragement' and generally giving their opinion on proceedings. Total ball ache and a distraction to everyone. They treated the place like a night club and had no intention of playing.

I would imagine most guys if totally pissed would be removed quite quickly by security and therefore you are unlikely to see them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who need drink to play are deluded..."

Uh huh. Hence why I tend to avoid when people say..."I like thee social side of swinging/clubs". Just an invitation for cliquish types and timewasters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about? "

No. Because all one is really doing is creating a barrier between themselves and most of the punters. As said, its fine if you dont want to participate but if you have absolutely no intention and then you're gonna get wasted and disturbing the peace? Then no, variety is exactly what you dont want and framing it as such tends to just create excuses for it.

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By *hell and jWoman
over a year ago

Worksop

We often see people pissed not a nice sight then the trouble starts xx I shell will not go near s pissed up person xxx personal reasons xcx

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

If people don't understand the dangers and problems with over- drinking at swinging clubs and indeed use the clubs as alternatives to traditional drinking establishments, I can't see the situation getting any better. Enough people have commented on here, in the reviews and in person. If you cannot see that been so d*unk you cannot stand up unsupported is not acceptable in this environment, I'll be looking to play at different clubs and perhaps no clubs at all.

Our evenings were interrupted on both occasions the other weekend, one at VA about 2 mins of walking through the door and the second Sunday afternoon at Chams where I was being fucked by Sir in the round room and some short blonde haired piss head came in with her partner who appeared sober then started giggling and laughing loudly and talking like a child. He took her out then returned about 5 mins later at which she exclaimed / slurred " oh I think I've been here before"

Seeing the same couple coming back from the smoking area and him physically holding her up was our cue to leave. And another couple commented in another thread a few days later to say they couldn't even have a quiet drink at the bar because she was so out of control, so they also left.

People are leaving clubs because they are fed up of others that can't control themselves. What anc who will that leave? And the big irony I think with Chams is they aren't even profiting from selling the drinks.

Good luck to them, they've had enough complaints.

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Is swinging really for you?

No. Swinging is not for a lot of people. They pollute this site with their timewasting/indecisive/drink fueled antics.

.she most likely just likes using to fuck as it hightens the feeling and situation for her.just the same as most people drink at a bar if they are out as alcohol does the same for sitting in a pub with friends.the only time it should become an issue is when it's a case of over indulgence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When we used to go Chams we stopped going in the evening due to the amount of d*unks there. They spoiled the fun because they were very loud, abusive, rude, obnoxious, smelt, staggered, used their phones in the club, fell over, vomited, passed out.

On the rare occasions we go (not been for well over a year now) we went daytime which was much nicer.

We use another club now and still generally go daytimes but even when we have been there a bit later we have never seen anyone d*unk.

I would never want to play with someone who is d*unk and i dont need drink in order to play either.

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By *aughtywifeandhimCouple
over a year ago

bedford

We wont play with d*unk people there is no fun in that yes my wife will have a few glasses of wine as she always gets a little nervous i dont drink at all more fun can be had just drinking socially .we have seen some people who have had a few but thats only after playing on dance floor near end of night

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

You stated earlier on that you won't talk to people who have no intention of playing, is that playing with you or playing in general? If you mean playing with you then aren't you also creating a barrier between you and anyone that doesn't want to play with you?

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

I do feel quite defensive when people talk about people needing to have a drink before they play as I am in this situation. I do need to have a drink to play and I'm not going to apologize for that, i have my own reasons for it which are nothing to do with not wanting to be there or not wanting to actually play. I feel like some people in this thread need to be less judgemental, maybe accept that some people have different views and that their views are just as valid as yours (I still disagree with getting absolutely hammered).

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

I'm in no way going to apologise for "being judgemental" as you call it

The day that one of these people has too much to drink and either injures themselves or someone else or worse later decides that the sex they had was not consensual, will be the day I hope the clubs take a good hard look at what they turn a blind eye to currently.

I personally do not want to ever be called on as a witness at a r@@e trial, which could very easily happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is swinging really for you?

No. Swinging is not for a lot of people. They pollute this site with their timewasting/indecisive/drink fueled antics.

LOL really, excusing use now? Starting to wonder about some of you.

And yes, I met this couple a few times and in the last few the drug use was getting excessive.

I do wonder that if it was a guy running around using to "heighten the sexual experience" whether you would be so understanding. I dont think I really need to even clarify why , drink and sex is a bad combo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

Im not judgemental. I simply say my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

You guys have all been very unlucky.

We've been at this lark over ten years and our number of club visits is easily in 3 figures. In all that time we've only seen 3 incidents of people being so d*unk they caused a nuisance. 2 of those times the offending party removed within minutes and other took about an hour before 'security' finally got around to it.

Usually the it's newbies who get d*unk to the point they are unable to play and are in an early taxi, and 99% of the time it's because of their nerves. Completely understandable in my book.

Also if someone is d*unk/d up and acting an arsehole, it's not because of the substances in their system, it's because they're an arsehole. They don't give them a cheap excuse.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

I actually said I probably drink in excess in regards to volume, meaning I can drink more than some people and not get d*unk like they might. You do realise people have different tolerances?

I've stated repeatedly I don't agree with people being paralytic so no, I wasn't referring to that when I said people were judgemental. Don't take part of my post and turn it into what suits you.

I was calling the people who said that people who have a drink to play are deluded, or don't want to be there etc, judgemental.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They need to be pissed to watch their partner fuck other people. They'd rather not be there. Beer goggles. etc. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging."

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

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By *heshunter80Man
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

I actually said I probably drink in excess in regards to volume, meaning I can drink more than some people and not get d*unk like they might. You do realise people have different tolerances?

I've stated repeatedly I don't agree with people being paralytic so no, I wasn't referring to that when I said people were judgemental. Don't take part of my post and turn it into what suits you.

I was calling the people who said that people who have a drink to play are deluded, or don't want to be there etc, judgemental.

Agree completely Keeley!!

responsible drinking in moderation can enhance the mood and pleasure when playing!! My partner and I often have some of our most pleasurable & horny sessions after sharing a good bottle of wine!!

And in case I need to add this point NO we don't need to drink to have sex with each other!!

If someone can't be trusted to drink responsibly then agree they probably can't be trusted to swing/play responsibly

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"You guys have all been very unlucky.

Usually the it's newbies who get d*unk to the point they are unable to play and are in an early taxi, and 99% of the time it's because of their nerves. Completely understandable in my book.

Also if someone is d*unk/d up and acting an arsehole, it's not because of the substances in their system, it's because they're an arsehole. They don't give them a cheap excuse."
ah some common sense so refreshing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally understand the odd occasion when say a newbie has a little bit too much drink due to nerves etc, what is ridiculous is the regular club goer who gets regularly d*unk or does drugs and may have a bit of a fumble late in the evening, clubs with a licensed bar are of course happy to entertain these people's drinking habits, clubs that allow you to bring your own drink suffer from over drinking too, clubs are rife with over drinkers....

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

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are you for real.Why are you clearly taking everything she says out of context.you say people that have a drink are irresponsible but you say further up in the thread which you conveniently failed to reply to my comment on it that you regularly meet a couple where the woman drinks and takes mid play and you sit there and wonder if she even wants to do it. but you crack on anyway.hyporcrite much eh

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Why are you clearly taking everything she says out of context.you say people that have a drink are irresponsible but you say further up in the thread which you conveniently failed to reply to my comment on it that you regularly meet a couple where the woman drinks and takes mid play and you sit there and wonder if she even wants to do it. but you crack on anyway.hyporcrite much eh

Thank you for actually reading my posts and understanding the point I was trying to make.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

I actually said I probably drink in excess in regards to volume, meaning I can drink more than some people and not get d*unk like they might. You do realise people have different tolerances?

I've stated repeatedly I don't agree with people being paralytic so no, I wasn't referring to that when I said people were judgemental. Don't take part of my post and turn it into what suits you.

I was calling the people who said that people who have a drink to play are deluded, or don't want to be there etc, judgemental.

Once again. Sorry, but this is what every irresonspible drinker who messes up a night out says.

"Guys I can drink sooooo much without getting wasted"

And lo and behold by the end of the night they're a mess

My point excessive alcohol consumption is a bad road in and of itself. Not only does the drinker become a danger to herself but she also can become a target AND even a problem for those confused about her consent. If you're drinking excessive volumes, you can happily run around claiming you're not d*unk and then end up in a situation with a guy leading up to tears. Excessive alcohol means you CANNOT consent, no matter how much you want to delude yourself and others that its fine.

Worst thing is that irresponsibility ends up on A GUY'S head and not yours.

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over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

are you for real.Why are you clearly taking everything she says out of context.you say people that have a drink are irresponsible but you say further up in the thread which you conveniently failed to reply to my comment on it that you regularly meet a couple where the woman drinks and takes mid play and you sit there and wonder if she even wants to do it. but you crack on anyway.hyporcrite much eh

Yes, excessively is a problem. And yes, I dont like the fact that she continuously gets high. Had to mention it outright. Maybe I'll stop playing with them. Should their behaviour fall out of line.

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

I'm amazed that some people manage to swing whilst sat atop their high horse.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

"When we used to go Chams we stopped going in the evening due to the amount of d*unks there. They spoiled the fun because they were very loud, abusive, rude, obnoxious, smelt, staggered, used their phones in the club, fell over, vomited, passed out.

On the rare occasions we go (not been for well over a year now) we went daytime which was much nicer.

We use another club now and still generally go daytimes but even when we have been there a bit later we have never seen anyone d*unk.

I would never want to play with someone who is d*unk and i dont need drink in order to play either."

You still get d*unks during the day.

On my first visit I encountered a "lady" who spent most of the afternoon propping up the bar. She polished off 3 bottles of red wine in about 3 hours and I overheard her telling a bloke that she had a tag on her leg because she was recently done for dangerous driving while d*unk. She told him don't worry it's waterproof so we can still play in the jacuzzis!

As the afternoon wore on and she got more d*unk she became even more loud and obnoxious. I made a point of avoiding her and left earlier than planned because I'd had enough of her behaviour

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Once again. Sorry, but this is what every irresonspible drinker who messes up a night out says.

"Guys I can drink sooooo much without getting wasted"

And lo and behold by the end of the night they're a mess

Worst thing is that irresponsibility ends up on A GUY'S head and not yours. "

Again you've twisted my words or just chosen to ignore part of what I've said.

I said earlier I very rarely play, if at all so this nonsense about consent aimed at me is invalid.

You're also assuming I mess up people's nights, you don't know me yet you're making a judgement.

One of the men above made a good point, you are quick enough to play with someone high on drugs yet you criticize everyone else for doing the same with people who've been drinking. You yourself made the comparison between drink and drugs, calling them both drugs.

Shall we discuss how you may possibly have breached this woman's consent when you had sex with her when she was under the influence of a mind altering drug which by your own opinion means she cannot consent?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a woman I would never get d*unk or high at a club. I'll either drive or have a few drinks, but i need to stay in control in that environment. What other people do is their own business. I'd never play with someone noticeably d*unk or high, not because I'm judging them but because i find it unattractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Once again. Sorry, but this is what every irresonspible drinker who messes up a night out says.

"Guys I can drink sooooo much without getting wasted"

And lo and behold by the end of the night they're a mess

Worst thing is that irresponsibility ends up on A GUY'S head and not yours.

Again you've twisted my words or just chosen to ignore part of what I've said.

I said earlier I very rarely play, if at all so this nonsense about consent aimed at me is invalid.

You're also assuming I mess up people's nights, you don't know me yet you're making a judgement.

You did not read my post then. She left halfway between meets (because she had werewithal) and it was only recently that they would at least make it apparent that they were high.

This is it, a lot of you basically want to be able to do what you like and then out of the same side of your mouth complain about nonsense like rude messages. It just seems like there is one standard of behavior for those like you and another for everyone else....most likely those others being men.

In parties and clubs, action is taken when men get out of hand (rightfully so) or even excessively d*unk but dare ask women (who are the main culprits of this shitty behavior) and then we're suddenly prudes on out high horses

I know you're desperate to victimize yourself and others who do the same thing. But no, I am not quick to play with those who use lots of drugs or alcohol...tbh 95% of the time their inebriation renders the entire act pointless anyway. I never once even alluded to the fact that I was. There is no way I can govern the behavior of everyone I meet. Nothing is stopping someone I meet from having a drinks or lines. I also wont pretend that I am some moral arbiter who would walk away from a meet if someone was to start drinking.

BUT it is bad behavior. Just like flaking or rude messages or cheating. Why should this be any more acceptable?

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By *apillonNoirWoman
over a year ago

There...

I've been lucky at Chams - I attend usually on a Monday or Friday evening - and have never seen anyone d*unk or high. My one and only attendance at Xtasia was ruined by a d*unk couple and I stopped going to Libs for similar reasons. D*unk/high folk are not terribly attractive to me

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Once again. Sorry, but this is what every irresonspible drinker who messes up a night out says.

"Guys I can drink sooooo much without getting wasted"

And lo and behold by the end of the night they're a mess

Worst thing is that irresponsibility ends up on A GUY'S head and not yours.

Again you've twisted my words or just chosen to ignore part of what I've said.

I said earlier I very rarely play, if at all so this nonsense about consent aimed at me is invalid.

You're also assuming I mess up people's nights, you don't know me yet you're making a judgement.

You did not read my post then. She left halfway between meets (because she had werewithal) and it was only recently that they would at least make it apparent that they were high.

BUT it is bad behavior. Just like flaking or rude messages or cheating. Why should this be any more acceptable?"

Again, you're talking to me as if you know me, you've never met me so how can you say I think there's one standard of behavior for me and one for everyone else?

I'm going to stop replying to you now as you seem to completely ignore my points and twist them to suit yourself.

Good luck in any future meets you may have.

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

Yes, excessively is a problem. And yes, I dont like the fact that she continuously gets high. Had to mention it outright. Maybe I'll stop playing with them. Should their behaviour fall out of line.

This is the thing though, you somehow think that I (or a third party) should somehow be the one responsible for policing that couples behavior. And hey, maybe I should. But if you need others to tell you when to put the liquor down then, yes, you're extremely irresponsible. And no, I wont sit here and glorify your bad behavior."
the woman you keep responding to never said she drinks excesivly to the point of being a pain in the arse and a liability.she said she likes a drink for nerves or whatever like most do and you keep making her out to be some sort of alcoholic.thing is everybody will agree with you that someone who has had to much is not a good look and very anoying but the funny thing is you are the only one on the thread who is complaning the most yet admits to fucking them anyway

.you can't seriously think it's ok to fuck a woman who by your own admission indulged in drink and drugs to the point where you sit and think she isint even wanting to fuck you but you do it anyway. That's olso a pretty bold and dodgy statment to say it's not your job to police d*unks but you will fuck them when they have had to much as it's not your problem or did I take that out of context

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm in no way going to apologise for "being judgemental" as you call it

I personally do not want to ever be called on as a witness at a r@@e trial, which could very easily happen."

I'll be judgemental all I like. I don't want to play with pissed people. I don't want pissed people ruining my night out with their childish behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me and hubby like a few drinks at the weekend but I'd never get d*unk at a club.

Not only are you running the risk of doing something you may regret, but most people are sober. There's nothing worse than a room full of sober people and one or two d*unk people staggering around. Imagine that's ten times worse in a club situation.

Clubs are a place to have fun yes, but also should be somewhere you can feel comfortable and safe.

By all means have one or two to lessen the nerves if you need but I really don't understand the need to get d*unk

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

I dont understand why any women would want to drink excessively at a club or meet .... why put yourself in danger and make yourself vunerable .

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By *arciocialWoman
over a year ago

Leicester

I drink in clubs, I stay sober in clubs. I tend to have a drink once I've decided I've no interest in playing with anyone there and my preferences do not change once I've had a drink.

I've seen clubs ask people to leave or sent to their room due to how much they've had to drink (including Chams). I've also complained at clubs, in regards to people taking drugs, but because they didn't see it there was nothing they could do (chewing their face off and gnawing at their fingers was fine, brilliant look that).

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By *arciocialWoman
over a year ago

Leicester

"I dont understand why any women would want to drink excessively at a club or meet .... why put yourself in danger and make yourself vunerable ."

Most women are with their partner or others, people they can trust.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the rare occasions we go (not been for well over a year now) we went daytime which was much nicer.

We use another club now and still generally go daytimes but even when we have been there a bit later we have never seen anyone d*unk.

I would never want to play with someone who is d*unk and i dont need drink in order to play either.

You still get d*unks during the day.

As the afternoon wore on and she got more d*unk she became even more loud and obnoxious. I made a point of avoiding her and left earlier than planned because I'd had enough of her behaviour "

We have never encountered d*unks during the day in the 12 or so years we have been going, only in the evening.

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By *otandpepperCouple
over a year ago

wolverhampton

Just don't forget that some people going to swingers club for social reason only, as a cheaper and more fun(if you add everything up) option for a night out. So, in other words just focus on what you like and ignore what you dont like, simple.

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

"Just don't forget that some people going to swingers club for social reason only, as a cheaper and more fun(if you add everything up) option for a night out. So, in other words just focus on what you like and ignore what you dont like, simple. "

Where's the fun in that?

Surely it's better to pout and ruin your own night out because others are having fun?

That way you get to post on the forums, judge people by your own standards, dictate to them what's acceptable, assume the position of the club fun police, ignore valid points, generalise, make assumptions, project your own failings etc

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Okay this isn't aimed at anyone in this thread and to be fair the d*unk women I'm complaining about have been there as a couple. So in theory a single woman can get into a club very cheaply, take her own booze and get so wankered she ruins other people's evenings who have spent far more to access the facilities. Hmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But funny though no doubt hahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

Yes, excessively is a problem. And yes, I dont like the fact that she continuously gets high. Had to mention it outright. Maybe I'll stop playing with them. Should their behaviour fall out of line.

This is the thing though, you somehow think that I (or a third party) should somehow be the one responsible for policing that couples behavior. And hey, maybe I should. But if you need others to tell you when to put the liquor down then, yes, you're extremely irresponsible. And no, I wont sit here and glorify your bad behavior.the woman you keep responding to never said she drinks excesivly to the point of being a pain in the arse and a liability.she said she likes a drink for nerves or whatever like most do and you keep making her out to be some sort of alcoholic.thing is everybody will agree with you that someone who has had to much is not a good look and very anoying but the funny thing is you are the only one on the thread who is complaning the most yet admits to fucking them anyway

Look dont try to be slick

Dont try and make my dislike of d*unken shenanigans as some kind of way to twist this into me wanting to take advantage of vulnerable.

TBH this was my experience and my issue. One gets d*unk, runs around giving out mixed signals and in a state and then when they sober up they want to run for the nearest guy to blame it on. No, I dont want to have sex with those people...tbh it would be best if they're not even in the club.

You, on the other hand, may be perfectly fine whilst playing in the vicinity of someone who is paralytic d*unk/comatose. I mean, that is pretty much what you're saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where's the fun in that?

Surely it's better to pout and ruin your own night out because others are having fun?

Do you think it's ok to get pissed and be loud and annoying and ruin everyone else's night?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a woman is pissed/ off her head she's more likely to give the men 'a good time'.

No idea why the clubs don't kick them out....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People here think they have a right to ruin other peoples night if there's are not going well. A d*unken argument with a partner? Why take it home when you get throw it in everyone elses face?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where's the fun in that?

Surely it's better to pout and ruin your own night out because others are having fun?

Do you think it's ok to get pissed and be loud and annoying and ruin everyone else's night? "

Clearly.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Where's the fun in that?

Surely it's better to pout and ruin your own night out because others are having fun?

Do you think it's ok to get pissed and be loud and annoying and ruin everyone else's night? "

I read the post that they don't accept this happens. Maybe too pissed to see who knows, I don't think anyone in this thread is talking about having a few sociable drinks. I'm talking about totally wrecked and incapable of controlling themselves d*unk. Obviously the pro drinking crowd are happy for vulnerable people to be around. I'm not just annoyed about our time being ruined, which for a 2 hour drive each way is annoying, I'm very concerned for the individuals who put themselves in danger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh this is one of my soap-boxes! I just cannot understand why people swing if they need to get pissed to enjoy it.

Also, I enjoy drinking and have a fairly good head, but find that very few people can get d*unk nicely, if that makes sense. Perhaps I'm a Frog at heart!

Sorry rant over, now I suppose everyone will hate me

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"Oh this is one of my soap-boxes! I just cannot understand why people swing if they need to get pissed to enjoy it.

Also, I enjoy drinking and have a fairly good head, but find that very few people can get d*unk nicely, if that makes sense. Perhaps I'm a Frog at heart!

Sorry rant over, now I suppose everyone will hate me

I love a drink. But I never drink to excess outside of home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont care what others do, if they want to get d*unk i will just go daytime because iv never seen anyone d*unk then. I also never go Chams on saturday night because its couples night and im not interested in couples. I simply go at a time (and place) that suits me and behave in a way that suits me.

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

"I just cannot understand why people swing if they need to get pissed to enjoy it."

Why do you care?

If they are having fun and not bothering anyone, what's the problem?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are all going on about the negatives of clubs but what about the positives all the great people we meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it's that bad I'm sure the clubs would stop alcohol being brought into clubs.

At the end of the day if ppl want to get pissed that's up to them. Just avoid them if it's not you're wish

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"I just cannot understand why people swing if they need to get pissed to enjoy it.

Why do you care?

If they are having fun and not bothering anyone, what's the problem?"

That's the point..... pissed people are bothering other people and making them leave the clubs. It's been quoted constantly throughout the thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just cannot understand why people swing if they need to get pissed to enjoy it.

Why do you care?

If they are having fun and not bothering anyone, what's the problem?"

But they are bothering people. Which is the point. If someone is a quite d*unk then the only person they're really putting in danger is themselves. There is nothing entirely wrong with that...except for a little tiny bit of concern for your fellow human being. Or is it just fuck some random vulnerable individual?

Your stance seems kinda passive aggressive and selfish.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"I just cannot understand why people swing if they need to get pissed to enjoy it.

Why do you care?

If they are having fun and not bothering anyone, what's the problem?

Your stance seems kinda passive aggressive and selfish."

I think some posts must have become invisible to some users. I think I've said my bit. It won't be me that's party to any problems because I can't be bothered with it all. Hopefully the folk in denial at what is blatantly a problem will be sober enough should an accident or sexual asssult occur.

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

"That's the point..... pissed people are bothering other people and making them leave the clubs. It's been quoted constantly throughout the thread. "

People should go to different clubs then.

As I said earlier been out 100s of times over the last 12 years and only seen 3 incidents of unruly d*unk behaviour, all of which were dealt with it.

Also it seems some people on this thread have a problem with people drinking, full stop, whether they are being an arse or not. Having a drink or two (or six) at a club does not equate to being a d*unk twat.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"That's the point..... pissed people are bothering other people and making them leave the clubs. It's been quoted constantly throughout the thread.

People should go to different clubs then.

As I said earlier been out 100s of times over the last 12 years and only seen 3 incidents of unruly d*unk behaviour, all of which were dealt with it.

In life there are many things that we as individuals don't witness; does not mean they aren't true

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

"Or is it just fuck some random vulnerable individual?

Your stance seems kinda passive aggressive and selfish."

Stop projecting dude, not everyone is a predator that preys on d*unk/high people, in fact I'd wager 99.99999% of swingers wouldn't touch someone off their face.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just cannot understand why people swing if they need to get pissed to enjoy it.

Why do you care?

If they are having fun and not bothering anyone, what's the problem?"

This post makes it all clear.

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

"In life there are many things that we as individuals don't witness; does not mean they aren't true

Conversely this thread makes it look like there's some d*unken arsehole epidemic in clubs, which I have not witnessed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We won't play with anyone who's pissed or taken any drugs not for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or is it just fuck some random vulnerable individual?

Your stance seems kinda passive aggressive and selfish.

Stop projecting dude, not everyone is a predator that preys on d*unk/high people, in fact I'd wager 99.99999% of swingers wouldn't touch someone off their face."

Except...that we have actually had one or two cases end up in court over sexual assault happening in a swingers club.

No one said everyone is a predator looking attack d*unks. D*unkeness does blur the lines of consent though...no matter who it is.

What is amusing is how much this "fuck everyone else, only MY orgasm matters!!" seems to feature heavily on here. I dont like dressing such selfishness and ignorance as "preference". How uncivilized.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pissed or off your face on drugs = very unsexy.

A couple of social drinks is fine, but it's horrid when you see (usually women) staggering around unable to even string a sentence together because they are so arseholed.

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

"in fact I'd wager 99.99999% of swingers wouldn't touch someone off their face.

Except...that we have actually had one or two cases end up in court over sexual assault happening in a swingers club.

So what you're saying is that you agree with my 99.99999% assessment then?

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman
over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton

I've had more issues with sober people then I have with d*unk people.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Can we all just agree that d*unk people being obnoxious, violent, unruly and staggering everywhere are a problem and that people who drink but don't cause issues are not a problem?

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman
over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton

"Can we all just agree that d*unk people being obnoxious, violent, unruly and staggering everywhere are a problem and that people who drink but don't cause issues are not a problem? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Last year at a London party I was at with my ex, a woman passed out d*unk. Her husband who was playing with others said she was d*unk before they arrived. Beggars belief on the type of relationship they have / had with him being ok with her attending in that state and that she couldn't have given consent x

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

When we attend clubs we like to have a glass of wine or so but never go over the top

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or is it just fuck some random vulnerable individual?

Your stance seems kinda passive aggressive and selfish.

Stop projecting dude, not everyone is a predator that preys on d*unk/high people, in fact I'd wager 99.99999% of swingers wouldn't touch someone off their face."

Sadly not true. We have many times seen guys lining up to gangbang obviously off their face ladies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely this all boils down to people's personal choice. I go to chams regularly as a single lady I have a drink and a laugh. I don't cause trouble but the way this group is making single women out that they are ruining chams all the time?? Over the past year I've seen d*unk women d*unk men d*unk couple and only on a very rare occasion it's caused trouble which has always been swiftly dealt with.

Let's face it if I chose to go get d*unk and have sex with the whole club it's my choice and my consequences . No one said you had to join in!! As for ruining your night I suggest you need to concentrate on what ur doing instead of ur surroundings!!!!

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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago

Loughborough

"Sadly not true. We have many times seen guys lining up to gangbang obviously off their face ladies. "

That's horrific, what kind of club lets that happen?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personally would only social drink at a club but not that I have been to one YET but I think its each to there own isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely this all boils down to people's personal choice. I go to chams regularly as a single lady I have a drink and a laugh. I don't cause trouble but the way this group is making single women out that they are ruining chams all the time?? Over the past year I've seen d*unk women d*unk men d*unk couple and only on a very rare occasion it's caused trouble which has always been swiftly dealt with.

Totally agree with this!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's why I won't play even if they're tipsy. I met this lovely lady for a drink a few years back before going back to hers. As she was a bit nervous she insisted on a couple more drinks. I could see she was a bit tipsy after the second one was downed. You should have seen her face when suggested she'd had too much for me to be comfortable to go back to stay the night. I was like the world's worst apparently. As I'd no where booked I slept in my car that night but met her the next morning. All was grand in the end and we had a good Saturday together after all but drink and play for me don't go together. Some lovely people turn ugly with it... some go very placid and non functional.

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By *heshunter80Man
over a year ago

"Can we all just agree that d*unk people being obnoxious, violent, unruly and staggering everywhere are a problem and that people who drink but don't cause issues are not a problem? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can we all just agree that d*unk people being obnoxious, violent, unruly and staggering everywhere are a problem and that people who drink but don't cause issues are not a problem? "

Totally!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Easier said than done at times. We just stopped going in the evening.

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

Thanks to having erectile dysfunction, getting a hard-on when I`m sober is difficult enough, let alone if I`ve had a drink!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Went to chams last night

And I was amazed at the amount of people getting rat arsed before they play

Why?

If you can't play or enjoy other people without getting pissed

Is swinging really for you?

A lovely cpl we saw and chatted to became quite vile as the night went on

Hammered

Another woman was falling over pissed

I'm sure you will all have some explainations for us "

Slightly off topic,

I often think that about gay guys, I hear them saying they have to get pissed or on drugs before they can have sex.

Why would you if you're true to yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonder how you would feel if it was a guy who got d*unk and tried to have sex with the whole club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonder how you would feel if it was a guy who got d*unk and tried to have sex with the whole club

Quite frankly my dear it would be no of my business!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately many very normal people turn loud and obnoxious when they get d*unk, in a pub situation if a group of people start acting up we'd just move on to another pub but when you've made the effort and found the time to visit a club it can ruin your night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I posted about this last Sunday but didn't name the clubs involved but Chams was the worst and we complained as we left.

Complete liability. I don't know why any club would allow this.

As well as being embarrassing nuisances they are at risk of injuring themselves and open to non consensual sex.

Just wrong. Every visit there's always at least one d*unk or stinking of stale booze. "

In Chams defence...they do not serve alcohol. People who getvpissed have taken their own...so obviously with the intention of getting arseholed!

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By *r an Mrs xMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Some customers. .... drive you to drink

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife

Is swinging really for you?

No. Swinging is not for a lot of people. They pollute this site with their timewasting/indecisive/drink fueled antics.

you meet fuelled people.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we dont like playing with pissed people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is swinging really for you?

No. Swinging is not for a lot of people. They pollute this site with their timewasting/indecisive/drink fueled antics.

you meet fuelled people.?"

You may have done too. Unless you carry out a wee test on everyone you sleep with.

It's also amusing the backtracking now happening. Christ, so many of you are full of absolute shit.

"You're judgemental for disliking alcoholics in clubs. I have no problem with it"

To...

"Can we all agree that d*unk people are terrible whereas it's ok to have one or two drinks. I can't admit I am wrong so I am going to pretend as if the thing I was arguing against was exactly what I thought in the first place."

Morons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you can't play or enjoy other people without getting pissed

Is swinging really for you?

some people like chem sex, alcohol counts.

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By *unlovers70Couple
over a year ago

Overseas

Is swinging really for you?

No. Swinging is not for a lot of people. They pollute this site with their timewasting/indecisive/drink fueled antics.

you meet fuelled people.?

You may have done too. Unless you carry out a wee test on everyone you sleep with.

It's also amusing the backtracking now happening. Christ, so many of you are full of absolute shit.

"You're judgemental for disliking alcoholics in clubs. I have no problem with it"

To...

Morons."

Whilst I'm not a fan of excessive drinking, especially in swingers clubs as I like to be aware of what I'm doing/others are doing to me and enjoy the experience, I've been reading through this thread and have found some of your replies quite judgmental. It seems you are taking some things out of context and not really taking on board what is being said.

My husband and I have been on meets where we have been asked if we take , neither of us take drugs and make it clear we won't play with anyone who has however we've been told 'you have the most amazing sex on '. Whatever! We enjoy ourselves enough without the use of illegal drugs but each to their own, if they aren't bothering us or making nuisances of themselves I'd never feel the need to lecture!

But just reading through your profile I see you have a list of dislikes and was surprised that you haven't included 'people high on drink or drugs'. Perhaps an idea to add this as you feel so strongly don't you think? Then you won't be approached by those who like to partake.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"I posted about this last Sunday but didn't name the clubs involved but Chams was the worst and we complained as we left.

Complete liability. I don't know why any club would allow this.

As well as being embarrassing nuisances they are at risk of injuring themselves and open to non consensual sex.

Just wrong. Every visit there's always at least one d*unk or stinking of stale booze.

In Chams defence...they do not serve alcohol. People who getvpissed have taken their own...so obviously with the intention of getting arseholed!"

But I think they have a duty of care to all their patrons and should make every attempt to ensure safety prevails at all times. Serving alcohol up to the woman we have described who was already incapable of walking unaided is irresponsible. Because this is exactly what was happening as we left. In the absence of her being able to make an informed decision herself, the club should step in.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"Some customers. .... drive you to drink "

Love this contribution to the thread, very helpful. We have been talking hor a while of making a weekend visit to the NW area and taking a club in. Neither of us have been to any, so much appreciative of your input

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By *aptain VMan
over a year ago

Birstall, Leicester

I went to Chams with a friend last year. She got completely wasted and would stop drinking. Plus she wanted me to go shops and buy Champaign. By the end of the nite it was so embarrassing

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

The drinking by the ladies before fucking is a cultural thing that started from vanilla. It comes from the ladies going to the normal clubs ,getting high and taking someone home for the night. When these ladies get into the lifestyle they cannot stop this habbit, that is all that is. A little is ok but getting hammered is not but I accept that 98percent of the ladies need this for confidence, so it is ok as long as they are not hammered because they are matured ladies, so no problem. Plus most of the ladies have not had fun while growing up , strict parents, they married early, early pregnancy etc so they have not really played and fucked well so I will give them a pass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If i want to have a drink in a club i will and i don't really care what anyone thinks its my life not yours really dont know were people get off telling others how they should act if you dont like it dont get involved with them simple

I can understand though that some can get roudy but its up to the club to remove them this seems to have moved away from how clubs should act in these situations to how people moderate drinks a lot are different i can probably drink 8 pints then i might start dancing wildly and generally just having a good laugh and a great time dont really think should be judged by how much you drink x im probably going to get jumped on by the forum crew lol xx female replying xx

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"Deluded that the d*unken fumble at the end of the night is swinging.

They might not class themselves as swingers but find themselves most comfortable at swinging clubs. Isn't variety and keeping things exciting what swinging is all about?

I did previously state that I don't agree with getting paralytic and that it's dangerous for everyone involved.

Yes, I do think drinking to excess is a problem in clubs, I probably drink in excess in regards to volume but I never end up falling around d*unk.

No, you're irresponsible.

And it comes kind of apparent in your posts. It doesnt make any sense and is that typical lack of self awareness that most alcoholics tend to have.

"I drink in excess, but I dont get d*unk"

LOL, what does that even mean???

Of course, not approving of someone being a d*unken mess means we're "judgemental". Christ, some of you are like children

Yes, excessively is a problem. And yes, I dont like the fact that she continuously gets high. Had to mention it outright. Maybe I'll stop playing with them. Should their behaviour fall out of line.

This is the thing though, you somehow think that I (or a third party) should somehow be the one responsible for policing that couples behavior. And hey, maybe I should. But if you need others to tell you when to put the liquor down then, yes, you're extremely irresponsible. And no, I wont sit here and glorify your bad behavior.the woman you keep responding to never said she drinks excesivly to the point of being a pain in the arse and a liability.she said she likes a drink for nerves or whatever like most do and you keep making her out to be some sort of alcoholic.thing is everybody will agree with you that someone who has had to much is not a good look and very anoying but the funny thing is you are the only one on the thread who is complaning the most yet admits to fucking them anyway

Look dont try to be slick

Dont try and make my dislike of d*unken shenanigans as some kind of way to twist this into me wanting to take advantage of vulnerable.

You, on the other hand, may be perfectly fine whilst playing in the vicinity of someone who is paralytic d*unk/comatose. I mean, that is pretty much what you're saying."
you would be wrong as we don't even go to clubs its not our thing at all lol.you are a one trick pony with constantly taking people out of context and saying that anyone who dissagrees with you about having a drink automatically is an alcholic. like you are constantly saying to that other woman who only says she likes a drink for nerves hence why I commented in the first place.thing is there is nothing special about you disliking people who have had to much because guess what,everybody hates people who have had to much but you are the only one who can't see the difference between someone enjoying a social drink and being an alcoholic lol.and the funny thing is your the only one who admits to fucking someone who you wondered if they even wanted to be doing it as they were full of drink and drugs fs.it's all there in black and white so nobody is making you to be anything but you sure are trying to do so to others.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"The drinking by the ladies before fucking is a cultural thing that started from vanilla. It comes from the ladies going to the normal clubs ,getting high and taking someone home for the night. When these ladies get into the lifestyle they cannot stop this habbit, that is all that is. A little is ok but getting hammered is not but I accept that 98percent of the ladies need this for confidence, so it is ok as long as they are not hammered because they are matured ladies, so no problem. Plus most of the ladies have not had fun while growing up , strict parents, they married early, early pregnancy etc so they have not really played and fucked well so I will give them a pass"

So many wrong points here, can't answer them all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are going to chams on the 15th of next month.I,(grey)rarely drink,but I will be having a few that night.i treat it as a night out in a safe environment.anyone who disagrees with anyone having a drink at a club is more than welcome to ignore us.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Townhouse seem to have a sensible line on this, be interested to hear any experience ?

Not sure who is being referred to in some of these comments. I certainly never said zero drinking...my posts are about d*unks. Massive difference

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Indulge me...how about the men that drink then?

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By *apillonNoirWoman
over a year ago

There...

98% of ladies need a drink to boost their confidence? 98%? Most of the ladies haven't had fun growing up? There are so many wrong assumptions on your post that I hardly know where to start. We left the Victorian era behind many many years ago. Get out more and meet some; you might be pleasantly surprised.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Townhouse seem to have a sensible line on this, be interested to hear any experience ?

Not sure who is being referred to in some of these comments. I certainly never said zero drinking...my posts are about d*unks. Massive difference

Ditto.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

I never drink as I'm always driving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh my Lord, you dont 'alf talk some nonsense James

Some of you thoughts on women are downright scary

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