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"Wonder why I can't get the link up?!" Just Google the journal | |||
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"The guys obviously in his late 50s (being nice) and who lets a convicted sex offender run a so called swingers club " He is 62 | |||
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"Yes he was 44 in 2002 when he was given six years for lureing children into the sex trade. It's all in black and white on the newspaper printout in the above link" It's well known in the area, I posted a link to a photocopy of the original article, but it was hosted on someones facebook page and so, apparently "not allowed".... | |||
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"Yes he was 44 in 2002 when he was given six years for lureing children into the sex trade. It's all in black and white on the newspaper printout in the above link" Check the press tomorrow, The Sun, The Daily Mail, Metro and Salisbury Journal. He might hold his parties elsewhere. He certainly is older than his fab profile allows him to say. It always stays the same. | |||
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"Yes he was 44 in 2002 when he was given six years for lureing children into the sex trade. It's all in black and white on the newspaper printout in the above link It's well known in the area, I posted a link to a photocopy of the original article, but it was hosted on someones facebook page and so, apparently "not allowed".... " I'm going to try and look into the archives and get the links to the 2002 newspaper articles. | |||
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"I think his account has been suspended " Yes it has | |||
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"Yes he was 44 in 2002 when he was given six years for lureing children into the sex trade. It's all in black and white on the newspaper printout in the above link It's well known in the area, I posted a link to a photocopy of the original article, but it was hosted on someones facebook page and so, apparently "not allowed".... " If you check the forum rules you would see which links are allowed. FB isn't one of them | |||
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"We're a sex site according to the Daily Fail " sounds ligit | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now?" Moved on to the next one. | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now?" Why would that make people sycophants just for liking a club? | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now? Why would that make people sycophants just for liking a club?" There was a thread on here recently stating that DD's had closed down and a few posters (not all) were most definitely going a lot further than the usual defence that a club regular might post when reacting to criticism of their favoured club | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now?" Maybe they weren't aware of his previous conviction or the objections of local residents and perhaps feel a little uneasy about being associated at present. | |||
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"The reviews I read about it being a terrace reminded me of a party I attended many years ago. Must have been 20-25 people there. Probably 5 couples and the rest guys. I did stop and play that time, but on reflection felt for the neighbours, so not the kind of thing I'd do again. Not in such numbers to be a nuisance anyway. The new information I'm reading now is a whole different ball game " It makes you wonder where is a good place to have a club, party. In the country or in town would make a good debate x | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now? Maybe they weren't aware of his previous conviction or the objections of local residents and perhaps feel a little uneasy about being associated at present." On a previous profile I informed admin that he was a registered sex offender and offered to provide links as evidence but never received a reply from them. | |||
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" It makes you wonder where is a good place to have a club, party. In the country or in town would make a good debate x" A well-appointed country mansion, open air pool, licensed bar, ample parking space... why, even the magistrates might give it a try. | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now? Maybe they weren't aware of his previous conviction or the objections of local residents and perhaps feel a little uneasy about being associated at present. On a previous profile I informed admin that he was a registered sex offender and offered to provide links as evidence but never received a reply from them. " You would have only had to report a profile with evidence and Admin would take a look. Evidence has been provided this week and Admin have acted so I find what you say hard to believe | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now? Maybe they weren't aware of his previous conviction or the objections of local residents and perhaps feel a little uneasy about being associated at present. On a previous profile I informed admin that he was a registered sex offender and offered to provide links as evidence but never received a reply from them. " I think I'd be reporting to the police, not Fab admin. | |||
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"On a previous profile I informed admin that he was a registered sex offender and offered to provide links as evidence but never received a reply from them. I think I'd be reporting to the police, not Fab admin. " if he's on the register then i reckon they would already know to be fair | |||
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" It makes you wonder where is a good place to have a club, party. In the country or in town would make a good debate x" the answer to that is that it probably doesn't matter if it is town or country... just probably not as "residential" as this seemed to be....... | |||
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"Where are the sycophants that were defending it as a great club and him as a great guy now? Maybe they weren't aware of his previous conviction or the objections of local residents and perhaps feel a little uneasy about being associated at present. On a previous profile I informed admin that he was a registered sex offender and offered to provide links as evidence but never received a reply from them. You would have only had to report a profile with evidence and Admin would take a look. Evidence has been provided this week and Admin have acted so I find what you say hard to believe" Hard to believe or not it was the case it was about 3 years ago when I worked in Salisbury and was made aware of him I contacted admin and reported it but never recieved a reply to be asked to provide any evidence. | |||
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"On a previous profile I informed admin that he was a registered sex offender and offered to provide links as evidence but never received a reply from them. I think I'd be reporting to the police, not Fab admin. if he's on the register then i reckon they would already know to be fair " And would therefore be interested like they clearly are of what has happened | |||
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"What about a club owner running 3 brothels with a underage trafficked girl working there when it was raided by the police. Then he went to trail and found guilty then jailed. Still runs a club to this day. " | |||
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"I used to live around the corner from there. Everybody in the area knew about the party's. We would all try and avoid walking past it at night. in fear of someone saying they had seen us going there. " Wasn't it in a cul de sac opposite industrial units?. | |||
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"I used to live around the corner from there. Everybody in the area knew about the party's. We would all try and avoid walking past it at night. in fear of someone saying they had seen us going there. Wasn't it in a cul de sac opposite industrial units?." Pedestrian access through a dead end road. | |||
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"What about a club owner running 3 brothels with a underage trafficked girl working there when it was raided by the police. Then he went to trail and found guilty then jailed. Still runs a club to this day. " What about them? This is a post abou DD. If you have a point to make then start a fresh post. | |||
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" What about them? This is a post abou DD. If you have a point to make then start a fresh post." ...and the reason you think you can tell people what to write and where is... | |||
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"I used to live around the corner from there. Everybody in the area knew about the party's. We would all try and avoid walking past it at night. in fear of someone saying they had seen us going there. " why would u walk past it ? its at the end of a dead-end street .. said it before and happy to say it again .. great club great parties and i had lotsa fun there..dont know what he got up to in private or in the past . | |||
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"When I was living in Southampton, I heard about this place (Donkey Dicks) through some friend's at another private club called Junction 2 based near the new forest in Hampshire. I rang up, left a message and thought nothing of it until this guy rang me up asking if I'd like to make a movie with this (so-called) porn star from Cardiff... so I said yes and went along on the Sat night as planned. When I arrived, I noticed alot of camper vans parked on the street which I thought was really odd but nevertheless, parked in a nearby supermarket and knocked on the door... I went in and it was like a scene from Schindler's List as I've never seen so many old, ugly men all stood about totally naked desperately wanking their cocks hard. I sat down on this horrible brown leather settee and was told to undress and wait, I was also offer viagra for £5 a pill. We all just sat there in complete silence until he escorted her through from the kitchen holding some cheap Iceland nibbles and was told to start fucking her... it was the most bizarre evening that I've ever experienced and left straight away (My cars parked illegally, or some excuse!) And never returned... fast forward several years and it doesn't surprise me from what I've read on the net, he seemed like a dodgy guy so unfortunately got what he deserved. I'll put that one down to "experience" " I did have a giggle reading that | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 17/05/17 13:08:12]" i guess you read the first paragraph on that picture of the archived edition of the salisbury journal that is half way down the page when you open the first link on this thread and deleted your post then | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 17/05/17 13:08:12] i guess you read the first paragraph on that picture of the archived edition of the salisbury journal that is half way down the page when you open the first link on this thread and deleted your post then" What? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 17/05/17 13:08:12] i guess you read the first paragraph on that picture of the archived edition of the salisbury journal that is half way down the page when you open the first link on this thread and deleted your post then" I read the first part that said the girls were under 21, I then noticed the screen shot of the original news article where it said some were as young as 15 | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 17/05/17 13:08:12] i guess you read the first paragraph on that picture of the archived edition of the salisbury journal that is half way down the page when you open the first link on this thread and deleted your post then I read the first part that said the girls were under 21, I then noticed the screen shot of the original news article where it said some were as young as 15" that's nasty innit | |||
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"i'm guessing the feds had been surveiling all the commings and goings of people and vehicles in the street, to build a profile of place and the clientele as is standard when they bust suspected brothels etc " well u guessed wrong ..he was shut down because of a couple of complaints from neighbours ..and a neighbours mother .. | |||
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"i'm guessing the feds had been surveiling all the commings and goings of people and vehicles in the street, to build a profile of place and the clientele as is standard when they bust suspected brothels etc well u guessed wrong ..he was shut down because of a couple of complaints from neighbours ..and a neighbours mother .. " you're not in a position to comment conclusively yourself are you? you're not privvy to the police intel and if you were then you shouldn't even be commenting on this thread ... the salisbury journal said " the police raided the house amid concerns of prostitution and sexual exploitation, but found no evidence of either at the time." .... i think i am entitled to guess that they did the usual kind of surveilance that they carry out before a bust ... at the least they would've had to present evidence to a magistrate to secure the warrant to enter the premises | |||
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"i'm guessing the feds had been surveiling all the commings and goings of people and vehicles in the street, to build a profile of place and the clientele as is standard when they bust suspected brothels etc well u guessed wrong ..he was shut down because of a couple of complaints from neighbours ..and a neighbours mother .. you're not in a position to comment conclusively yourself are you? you're not privvy to the police intel and if you were then you shouldn't even be commenting on this thread ... the salisbury journal said " the police raided the house amid concerns of prostitution and sexual exploitation, but found no evidence of either at the time." .... i think i am entitled to guess that they did the usual kind of surveilance that they carry out before a bust ... at the least they would've had to present evidence to a magistrate to secure the warrant to enter the premises" Who are the Feds? Thought DDs was in Salisbury not Chicago? | |||
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"A pedeofile hosting parties with a profile on Fab. WTF " Well i hope those verris get deleated by all involved with meets and if you have been underageing it...time to look over your shoulders....for a long........long time... Just one of those darkside of swinging issues,unknowing innocent folks can be drawn into,dire situation indeed....hate it when idiots if it is true of course cause image damage to sites like fab because they have been here... | |||
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"A pedeofile hosting parties with a profile on Fab. WTF Well i hope those verris get deleated by all involved with meets and if you have been underageing it...time to look over your shoulders....for a long........long time... Just one of those darkside of swinging issues,unknowing innocent folks can be drawn into,dire situation indeed....hate it when idiots if it is true of course cause image damage to sites like fab because they have been here... " Yes this | |||
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"i'm guessing the feds had been surveiling all the commings and goings of people and vehicles in the street, to build a profile of place and the clientele as is standard when they bust suspected brothels etc well u guessed wrong ..he was shut down because of a couple of complaints from neighbours ..and a neighbours mother .. you're not in a position to comment conclusively yourself are you? you're not privvy to the police intel and if you were then you shouldn't even be commenting on this thread ... the salisbury journal said " the police raided the house amid concerns of prostitution and sexual exploitation, but found no evidence of either at the time." .... i think i am entitled to guess that they did the usual kind of surveillance that they carry out before a bust ... at the least they would've had to present evidence to a magistrate to secure the warrant to enter the premises" no but ive had emails from " the accused " and this site and he told me what happened ..i didnt read it in the press..when have they let the truth get in the way of a good story .. "the salisbury journal said "...must be true then , if they said it . ive been busted a couple of times in the past.. no surveillance was carried out before . the warrant was issued on the word of a nasty neighbour with a grudge.. pretty much what has happened here . | |||
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"What about a club owner running 3 brothels with a underage trafficked girl working there when it was raided by the police. Then he went to trail and found guilty then jailed. Still runs a club to this day. What about them? This is a post abou DD. If you have a point to make then start a fresh post. That's us put firmly in our place . Sorry we will do as you say post haste. We will pass our post by you in the future before posting. " | |||
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"the thread title is ambiguous as to wether the topic is the club or the person ... until the ambiguity is cleared up it's probably fair to comment about either " Well said! | |||
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"Al Capone.... Was eventually tried for tax vast tax evasion, however do you think that's what he was really wanted for???? Public nuisance and noise on a regular basis as a neighbour is horrid... RH has got away lightly, now tarnished and who in their right mind would attend 22avon terrace even if he did manage to reopen... Tourists on an open bus maybe " Good point, who'd want to go to a party that may be raided by the police. | |||
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"i'm guessing the feds had been surveiling all the commings and goings of people and vehicles in the street, to build a profile of place and the clientele as is standard when they bust suspected brothels etc well u guessed wrong ..he was shut down because of a couple of complaints from neighbours ..and a neighbours mother .. you're not in a position to comment conclusively yourself are you? you're not privvy to the police intel and if you were then you shouldn't even be commenting on this thread ... the salisbury journal said " the police raided the house amid concerns of prostitution and sexual exploitation, but found no evidence of either at the time." .... i think i am entitled to guess that they did the usual kind of surveilance that they carry out before a bust ... at the least they would've had to present evidence to a magistrate to secure the warrant to enter the premises" Yes he has every right to voice his opinion. You don't have a right to tell people what to write or where. And your post is hardly reliable as you've linked the words police and intelligence together. | |||
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"and for a long time only one point of exit and that door normally locked after ten" what door was locked after ten? the attic door was always open, it was a rule. | |||
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"Front door.... " I've been there near 100 times, front door was never locked, people came and went as they pleased. | |||
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"Doorman not always there, people coming and going as they pleased? So anybody could walk in? " There were always staff at the door, make that clear. More likely someone saw an occasion when there was nobody at reception. Next thing you know they're writing about it, someone else adds their bit and so it goes. I'm not defending the place either but I am free to point out any inaccuracies. | |||
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"I used to live around the corner from there. Everybody in the area knew about the party's. We would all try and avoid walking past it at night. in fear of someone saying they had seen us going there. why would u walk past it ? its at the end of a dead-end street .. said it before and happy to say it again .. great club great parties and i had lotsa fun there..dont know what he got up to in private or in the past . " It's of no concern to you that he has been convicted in the past for prostituting underage girls? | |||
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"I use to Attend Ricks parties and I can verify he was a great host n made sure everyone had a good time before himself. Music was never played loudly, infact rather too quietly! He also always had a strict rules asserting no playing after 3 am, the staff use to sleep in the lockable rooms making a good deterant to that. It was a private members club ( fab members only ) and he had all the certificates on the wall for fire safety! ! RIck also kindly used his plot of land to build a path for all his neighbours round the back of his house so I wouldn't go as far in saying he's neighbour for hell. He might have a dark past but everyone's entitle to redeem themselves and apart from his disclosure of his age I always found him to be a genuine honest bloke!! The south has now lost 2 good clubs in Donkey Dicks and Abfabs, so maybe more support would be good rather than negative slandering! !" Abfabs is alive and well - it's just not on this site anymore | |||
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"Abfabs is dead now it isn't on here!! Plus it's shutting in July " It was busy last time I was there.. Don't bet your mortgage on that fact.. | |||
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"I use to Attend Ricks parties and I can verify he was a great host n made sure everyone had a good time before himself. Music was never played loudly, infact rather too quietly! He also always had a strict rules asserting no playing after 3 am, the staff use to sleep in the lockable rooms making a good deterant to that. It was a private members club ( fab members only ) and he had all the certificates on the wall for fire safety! ! RIck also kindly used his plot of land to build a path for all his neighbours round the back of his house so I wouldn't go as far in saying he's neighbour for hell. He might have a dark past but everyone's entitle to redeem themselves and apart from his disclosure of his age I always found him to be a genuine honest bloke!! The south has now lost 2 good clubs in Donkey Dicks and Abfabs, so maybe more support would be good rather than negative slandering! !" Wow... so glad fire safety certificates make up for his vile past! Some ppl get a second chance... Some people are oxygen thieves!! | |||
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"Abfabs is dead now it isn't on here!! Plus it's shutting in July " Have you had a personal letter it's closing then?? | |||
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" It was a private members club ( fab members only ) " Ignoring the rumours he used to tout his parties to random groups of lads he encountered I'm pretty sure that limiting your membership to the thousands in here doesn't make somewhere a private members club! | |||
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"The south has now lost 2 good clubs in Donkey Dicks and Abfabs, so maybe more support would be good rather than negative slandering! !" If Abfabs is closing (as has been rumoured for a couple of years) then I guess it's because of the lack of planning permission that has got it in to that situation . There's no need to say why Din key Dicks was closed down. Maybe it shouldn't be about giving clubs more support but clubs doing things by the book? | |||
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"What still amazes.... How did RH keep his secret for so long, a six year sentence obviously addresses severity... Surprised he was never run out of "salzbrie "" You still going about it? lol | |||
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"Abfabs is dead now it isn't on here!! Plus it's shutting in July " Where did you hear that from? We go there frequently and were there recently and there was no mention of it closing down - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Abfabs is dead now it isn't on here!! Plus it's shutting in July Where did you hear that from? We go there frequently and were there recently and there was no mention of it closing down - Mrs. J -" It's far from dead, in fact they are planning for the future. | |||
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"Abfabs is dead now it isn't on here!! Plus it's shutting in July Where did you hear that from? We go there frequently and were there recently and there was no mention of it closing down - Mrs. J - It's far from dead, in fact they are planning for the future. " Looking foward to their NYE party again. We just love the atmosphere and the layout of the club - Mrs. J - | |||
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"I received a news letter making the announcementh. There looking at another venue " We received the same newsletter and it was for a new, larger, more modern venue for Kestrel, the daytime naturist spa; not AbFab - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Abfabs/Kestrels is alive and well !!! Another venue is their choice, as a business opportunity, and why not. Why are there so many naysayers on here? are they really anti+swingers or just idiots who gotten themselves banned from the place, I wonder. " It was great there today with the roof back. The new venture looks v exciting. | |||
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"I received a news letter making the announcementh. There looking at another venue " Where does it say that it's closing in July on that newsletter may I ask !!!! | |||
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"I received a news letter making the announcementh. There looking at another venue Where does it say that it's closing in July on that newsletter may I ask !!!! " Exactly!!! | |||
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"Might it not be a good idea to get comments about kestrels/abs away from this thread. I cant imagine many people want the two to be associated in any way at all. " j AbFab / Kesrtal are run on a completely different ethos - Mrs. J - | |||
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"I use to Attend Ricks parties and I can verify he was a great host n made sure everyone had a good time before himself. Music was never played loudly, infact rather too quietly! He also always had a strict rules asserting no playing after 3 am, the staff use to sleep in the lockable rooms making a good deterant to that. It was a private members club ( fab members only ) and he had all the certificates on the wall for fire safety! ! RIck also kindly used his plot of land to build a path for all his neighbours round the back of his house so I wouldn't go as far in saying he's neighbour for hell. He might have a dark past but everyone's entitle to redeem themselves and apart from his disclosure of his age I always found him to be a genuine honest bloke!! The south has now lost 2 good clubs in Donkey Dicks and Abfabs, so maybe more support would be good rather than negative slandering! !" Out of interest if Rolf Harris or some other child abuser started to run a club that you liked would you give them the second chance you think everyone deserves ? He is no different to any other child abuser. He took young impressionable and often vulnerable children and used them for his own pleasure and gain. Let's not paper over this and make out it was a one off mistake it was systematic abuse of vulnerable young women often with drink and drugs. Interesting to see your response had it been a Asian grooming gang not good ol rick from donkey dicks !!! | |||
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"Abfabs is dead now it isn't on here!! Plus it's shutting in July " Abfabs is well and truly open and how on earth can you put DD and Abfabs in the same category? Abfabs is run by a professional team of staff who value everyone's safety and security. I knew Ric but not about his past. It's awful and yes a disgrace being allowed to run a club like that. The last time I ever went the place was raided and that was about 4 years ago. I vowed never to go again. | |||
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"I use to Attend Ricks parties and I can verify he was a great host n made sure everyone had a good time before himself. Music was never played loudly, infact rather too quietly! He also always had a strict rules asserting no playing after 3 am, the staff use to sleep in the lockable rooms making a good deterant to that. It was a private members club ( fab members only ) and he had all the certificates on the wall for fire safety! ! RIck also kindly used his plot of land to build a path for all his neighbours round the back of his house so I wouldn't go as far in saying he's neighbour for hell. He might have a dark past but everyone's entitle to redeem themselves and apart from his disclosure of his age I always found him to be a genuine honest bloke!! The south has now lost 2 good clubs in Donkey Dicks and Abfabs, so maybe more support would be good rather than negative slandering! !" You support a convicted sex offender, one was 15 years young. Past or not, he has abused vulnerable people and only stopped because he was caught. Thanx for sharing your support. We know to avoid you | |||
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"What still amazes.... How did RH keep his secret for so long, a six year sentence obviously addresses severity... Surprised he was never run out of "salzbrie " You still going about it? lol" You are supporting a convicted sex offender, one was 15 years young. Past or not, he has abused vulnerable people and only stopped because he was caught. Thanx for sharing your support. We know to avoid you too | |||
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"I don't understand how people can defend him, he has abused lots of young women and used vulnerable people sexually for his personal gain, 1 that was under age. whether its now or in the past,he has shown he can't be trusted. It makes me wonder what else he is upto that we don't know about. . serving the time won't never make the abused victims of his greed better. Why do people defend the monster that betrayed so many people. He has done what he has done, why give him the opportunity to do it again." Not that we even visited that dump but knowing what we know now, are completely in tune with your sentiment - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Abfabs is dead now it isn't on here!! Plus it's shutting in July Abfabs is well and truly open and how on earth can you put DD and Abfabs in the same category? Abfabs is run by a professional team of staff who value everyone's safety and security. " | |||
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"To be fair, someone with a past conviction can clean up their act. Past offenses are no proof of current ones being committed. That said, DD's never appealed to me being in a terraced house. It struck me that a small house party might be ok but not regular "club" nights. " It never appealed to me not only for being a terraced house in a residential street but also for the fact that he made unsolicited approaches to me and other women on here offering to host parties for us. A good club does not need to pursue members like that. Yes they all want to encourage single females but that's not the way to go about it. After he approached me (despite me being in Yorkshire) with his offer of a gangland with a carefully selected group of men I asked various questions about his licences etc. I was immediately blocked. Any decent club will happily answer, swingers clubs have to operate very carefully writhing tight restrictions and badly run ones can taint the water for the rest. | |||
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