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"This is where the facts are fake. The blonde lady who you complained too all night only came to the club at 11.30 luckily the CCTV says that you spoke to her once when you left . " Think you misunderstood what the OP wrote. She didn't say she complained all night to the lady at the bar but she complained to the woman that was at the bar all night. | |||
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"She wasn't there at 11.30 " She was because she served us our drinks and we arrived long before 11:30 pal | |||
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"We've spoken to both Joanne the blonde tattoo demon who messaged you plus black demon the security guy that night None of them were spoken to by the Op about any incident We were that concerned by what was claimed we re ran the CCTV and saw nothing We double checked with 7/8 well respected swingers that were there that night and they said they saw nothing and would have as it wasn't a very busy night for a Friday due to the. Boxing at the arena We have agree that the door (that does have a one way security buzzer )does get left open or not closed on purpose by smokers who use the smoking garden Other than ban smoking it's hard to make sure members close the door as the sign clearly says However the area is covered by 2 seperate cctv cameras for security ( not that in 3 years we have had to use it ) We understand your review is your personal opinion and we have always taken constructive comments to make the club better I only messaged to say when investigated what you had said it was not what staff members had reported. Not every night is great. Even I have nights where no one wants to play with me .... Thankfully it's not often. I hope you come back on a busy night. We pride ourselves on a busy vibrant night club type swingers environment " Great response... throw in free entry for her and her partner or free drinks on their next visit and you might have a customer for life. | |||
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"Visited a well known club last night and was shocked to see so many people, who I'm sure were regulars, on their phones in the bar and them taking them up to the playrooms. Staff were obviously aware so I didn't see the need to mention it but it really left me uncomfortable. Is it so hard to put it in your locker and leave it there? All the clubs we've ever been to strictly enforce this...we wouldn't visit any club that didn't and I'm sure most people would be the same" i agree | |||
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"We wernt bothered about being watched, what we were bothered about was the banging on the window and howling, it was rather rude and forceful and we have the right, being watched or not, to be ableft to play without that kind of behavior. It bothered us enough to make a complaint and we were happy to leave it there. What was silly was that we were accused of being liars and not even reporting it to staff when we did. The attitude surrounding it was absolutely disgusting" | |||
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"This thread must have people rushing to head to Amours and not because of the allegations but because of the responses " | |||
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"We have no issue with phones were all adults and people should be respectful in clubs I have children and I need to check in reg with sitters and I may need to be contacted and obviously my sitters knows nothing if what I'm up too!!! " We also have kids and we check our phone, but there is a time and a place. Generally I'll go to the toilet or leave it in my locker and just do a quick screen check. Taking it out in a public area would cause concern for us. If people want to play privately and take photos of each other then if they all concent that is a different matter. Clubs can't police what goes on in private. | |||
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"The responses here from the club are shocking . Deal with the issues rather than start a war with an upset couple ! And from the sound of it they had all right to be upset ! Crikey if that's your response on here how on earth do you ensure people's safety !" | |||
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"How can a club deal with an issue of a made up event ? Other club visitors on the same night have left the ususl great reviews and have said they saw nothing Facts are. CCTV shows nothing. 3 bar staff saw nothing. 1 door staff saw nothing and 7 customers who have commented on here or on reviewes from the sane night saw nothing The op is welcome to revisit the club and watch the cctv " I've no idea who is right or wrong. But generally if a complaint is made I'd asking staff and customers not to respond individually. If I complain to tescos via Twitter, i'd expect them to say sorry for your experience contact us via email or on the phone or in person and we will investigate the issue. Not have Sam on the till tweet back that I am wrong or Joe in the queue say they saw nothing. Having a public battle just does not look right. Even ignoring a complaint looks better than a public battle. Like I say the couple could be making it up, but its the wider impression that is harmful rather than one bad review. IMHO. | |||
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" I've no idea who is right or wrong. But generally if a complaint is made I'd asking staff and customers not to respond individually. If I complain to tescos via Twitter, i'd expect them to say sorry for your experience contact us via email or on the phone or in person and we will investigate the issue. Not have Sam on the till tweet back that I am wrong or Joe in the queue say they saw nothing. Having a public battle just does not look right. Even ignoring a complaint looks better than a public battle. Like I say the couple could be making it up, but its the wider impression that is harmful rather than one bad review. IMHO. " This | |||
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" I've no idea who is right or wrong. But generally if a complaint is made I'd asking staff and customers not to respond individually. If I complain to tescos via Twitter, i'd expect them to say sorry for your experience contact us via email or on the phone or in person and we will investigate the issue. Not have Sam on the till tweet back that I am wrong or Joe in the queue say they saw nothing. Having a public battle just does not look right. Even ignoring a complaint looks better than a public battle. Like I say the couple could be making it up, but its the wider impression that is harmful rather than one bad review. IMHO. " this. All that should have been said was sorry your night was spoiled we will look into it and take any action that is appropriate and hope you will give us another visit in the future, instead of publically calling the couple liars. This bickering hasn't shown the club and their customer service in a good light. | |||
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"using a phone to take a photo with full consent of the club owner and the people in the photo is fine by us.....using a phone to share a number is fine too....but walking around with phones out is not cool at all, I would complain to the club staff and expect them to tackle the issue directly there and then, m x" | |||
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"This thread must have people rushing to head to Amours and not because of the allegations but because of the responses " this..... it does seem like there is some serious wagon circling going on... and one or two people in this thread are not helping the reputation of the club by answering in the manner they are... sometimes they think they are defending and helping.... they are not and it looks like bullying..... so is it a place i would be more or less likely to visit now after seeing this thread..... the answer is not more! | |||
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"This thread must have people rushing to head to Amours and not because of the allegations but because of the responses this..... it does seem like there is some serious wagon circling going on... and one or two people in this thread are not helping the reputation of the club by answering in the manner they are... sometimes they think they are defending and helping.... they are not and it looks like bullying..... so is it a place i would be more or less likely to visit now after seeing this thread..... the answer is not more!" | |||
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"My whole point. No just leaving one review. But leaving 2 from different accounts. Then starting a post after we had privately messaged them as we were concerned by the aiergstions. The club investigated and found nothing to back up what was claimed. Unless all the staff Door man and CCTV were wrong .... Then when we said we had investigated and could find no evidence we were blocked. As a club we defend our corner and our members If we're wrong we put outer hands up. As we have done before. Pity this site won't allow to post pictures within the forum " and again..... responses like this are not helping!!!!! you can continue the fight in public, or you could have resloved it privately!!! the tescos analogy someone used earlier was absolutely perfect..... belitting your customers doesn't tend to go down with people looking for a new place to go, because in the back of their mind a little piece if them will be thinking "if they do this to them want will they do to me if i don't have a good time!" the only thing you have to gain by winning an arguement is losing a customer..... | |||
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"My whole point. No just leaving one review. But leaving 2 from different accounts. Then starting a post after we had privately messaged them as we were concerned by the aiergstions. The club investigated and found nothing to back up what was claimed. Unless all the staff Door man and CCTV were wrong .... Then when we said we had investigated and could find no evidence we were blocked. As a club we defend our corner and our members If we're wrong we put outer hands up. As we have done before. Pity this site won't allow to post pictures within the forum and again..... responses like this are not helping!!!!! you can continue the fight in public, or you could have resloved it privately!!! the tescos analogy someone used earlier was absolutely perfect..... belitting your customers doesn't tend to go down with people looking for a new place to go, because in the back of their mind a little piece if them will be thinking "if they do this to them want will they do to me if i don't have a good time!" the only thing you have to gain by winning an arguement is losing a customer....." Thankyou, we have tried to sort it in private and the attitude was the same. This thread wasn't even meant to 'out them' or anything I was simply curious as to how common mobile phone use is in clubs as we'd never come across it before and beleive, arranging meets or not, it should be done in the locker rooms or toilets, not a dress down area. They jumped on the thread with their bullying tactics and outed themselves. We left an honest review as we do with every club we visit | |||
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"My whole point. No just leaving one review. But leaving 2 from different accounts. Then starting a post after we had privately messaged them as we were concerned by the aiergstions. The club investigated and found nothing to back up what was claimed. Unless all the staff Door man and CCTV were wrong .... Then when we said we had investigated and could find no evidence we were blocked. As a club we defend our corner and our members If we're wrong we put outer hands up. As we have done before. Pity this site won't allow to post pictures within the forum and again..... responses like this are not helping!!!!! you can continue the fight in public, or you could have resloved it privately!!! the tescos analogy someone used earlier was absolutely perfect..... belitting your customers doesn't tend to go down with people looking for a new place to go, because in the back of their mind a little piece if them will be thinking "if they do this to them want will they do to me if i don't have a good time!" the only thing you have to gain by winning an arguement is losing a customer....." Well said | |||
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"This is where the facts are fake. The blonde lady who you complained too all night only came to the club at 11.30 luckily the CCTV says that you spoke to her once when you left . The only inboxes were asking who you reported the incident to as the CCTV and staff say a completely different story. I'm sorry that you feel you had a rubbish night but will defend the facts if they are incorrect. " 0000 "How can a club deal with an issue of a made up event ? Other club visitors on the same night have left the ususl great reviews and have said they saw nothing Facts are. CCTV shows nothing. 3 bar staff saw nothing. 1 door staff saw nothing and 7 customers who have commented on here or on reviewes from the sane night saw nothing The op is welcome to revisit the club and watch the cctv " Make your mind up? One post you say the CCTV shows OP talking to staff once, then you claim it shows nothing. Terrible customer service. | |||
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"The responses here from the club are shocking . Deal with the issues rather than start a war with an upset couple ! And from the sound of it they had all right to be upset ! Crikey if that's your response on here how on earth do you ensure people's safety !" | |||
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"I was in last week and saw things that would make me think twice about going again. Men dressed upstairs. When I say dressed, shorts, tshirt, baseball hat. Looks dressed to me. I also had men twice opening the couples room door wanting to come in. They all know the rules. I suppose you could say I should have gone and said something to management. But why should I? It's not up to me to police the club. If the general vibe is that it's ok to come in an do that then me reporting it is not going to make any difference. It used to be good in there. " Brave man. I'm sure the club will be along soon to call you a liar | |||
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"I just want to add to this..... I have pics taken very obviously in a well known club. This is not because they allow cams in - its because I work there behind the bar and they are taken when the club is not open. I would never want anyone to think this could be a problem at Cupids " Been a few times and never seen a phone except in changing room. Cannot believe the row this has turned into. Terrible for management/ staff to argue with a customer in public like this. Not taking sides, wasn't there and not likely to be in the future!!! | |||
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"How can a club deal with an issue of a made up event ? Other club visitors on the same night have left the ususl great reviews and have said they saw nothing Facts are. CCTV shows nothing. 3 bar staff saw nothing. 1 door staff saw nothing and 7 customers who have commented on here or on reviewes from the sane night saw nothing The op is welcome to revisit the club and watch the cctv I've no idea who is right or wrong. But generally if a complaint is made I'd asking staff and customers not to respond individually. If I complain to tescos via Twitter, i'd expect them to say sorry for your experience contact us via email or on the phone or in person and we will investigate the issue. Not have Sam on the till tweet back that I am wrong or Joe in the queue say they saw nothing. Having a public battle just does not look right. Even ignoring a complaint looks better than a public battle. Like I say the couple could be making it up, but its the wider impression that is harmful rather than one bad review. IMHO. " | |||
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"I always carry mine were ever I am not for any other reason than if kids need to get hold of us but always on silent in pocket never in hand unless I go outside to answer it " Assuming they are old enough to be left on their own, you don't need your phone in your pocket in the club. If they are with a baby sitter then equally you don't need your phone in your pocket. If your need is so profound you need to be constantly available, then don't go into an place where you should not have a phone. There can be no grey areas when it comes to phones in clubs. Just like dog owners, every single one will tell you their dog doesn't shit on the pavement, yet somehow there is shit on the pavement. How does your conversation go ? "Hi mom, Jonny's the saucepan stuck on his head again" "OK sweet heart, just as soon as I've finished the gang bang I'll be home with a packet of lard" When we ran our own night, we heard every excuse could think of, and then some. Our reply was simple, you choose your phone or coming in. As far as we know, no one died. Never had a problem with phones though at the event. | |||
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"No one needs a phone when they go to a swinging club. Respect the rules or don't go. I hate the arrogance of people who assume that the rules don't apply to them" What would your solution be then for couples with young kids? For what it's worth we don't have young kids but can imagine it's a nightmare for those that do. I really don't see a problem if someone has a phone in their pocket but doesn't use it in the club. I wouldn't even know it's there. | |||
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"I believe one club asks people to hand their phones over before entry. I have at clubs and parties seen people wandering around with phones and I have had a couple of arguments about it. The usual reply being what is your problem. My immediate concern is the proliferation of smart watches at clubs that have video capability." I do wear a smart watch sometimes, but I purposely bought the galaxy wear S that doesn't havnt a camera on it because let's face it, who needs a camera on their wrist? But yeah I understand the concern there | |||
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"I was in last week and saw things that would make me think twice about going again. Men dressed upstairs. When I say dressed, shorts, tshirt, baseball hat. Looks dressed to me. I also had men twice opening the couples room door wanting to come in. They all know the rules. I suppose you could say I should have gone and said something to management. But why should I? It's not up to me to police the club. If the general vibe is that it's ok to come in an do that then me reporting it is not going to make any difference. It used to be good in there. " Careful, they'll be telling you soon they've checked cctv and there's nothing on there and the regulars said they didn't even see anything. They may even resort to saying you didn't arrive when you know you did and the staff you spoke to weren't there that night | |||
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"No one needs a phone when they go to a swinging club. Respect the rules or don't go. I hate the arrogance of people who assume that the rules don't apply to them What would your solution be then for couples with young kids? For what it's worth we don't have young kids but can imagine it's a nightmare for those that do. I really don't see a problem if someone has a phone in their pocket but doesn't use it in the club. I wouldn't even know it's there. " There is no "solution" you either abide by the rules or you don't go clubbing. It's up to people to decide which of those options they choose. | |||
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"No one needs a phone when they go to a swinging club. Respect the rules or don't go. I hate the arrogance of people who assume that the rules don't apply to them What would your solution be then for couples with young kids? For what it's worth we don't have young kids but can imagine it's a nightmare for those that do. I really don't see a problem if someone has a phone in their pocket but doesn't use it in the club. I wouldn't even know it's there. " It is still possible, difficult but possible, to buy cheap phones that don't have a camera. I have one, it was about £7. So if I absolutely needed to have a phone on me I could use that. | |||
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"How can a club deal with an issue of a made up event ? Other club visitors on the same night have left the ususl great reviews and have said they saw nothing Facts are. CCTV shows nothing. 3 bar staff saw nothing. 1 door staff saw nothing and 7 customers who have commented on here or on reviewes from the sane night saw nothing The op is welcome to revisit the club and watch the cctv I've no idea who is right or wrong. But generally if a complaint is made I'd asking staff and customers not to respond individually. If I complain to tescos via Twitter, i'd expect them to say sorry for your experience contact us via email or on the phone or in person and we will investigate the issue. Not have Sam on the till tweet back that I am wrong or Joe in the queue say they saw nothing. Having a public battle just does not look right. Even ignoring a complaint looks better than a public battle. Like I say the couple could be making it up, but its the wider impression that is harmful rather than one bad review. IMHO. " We go to a lot of clubs, and this isn't the type of attitude we'd ever want to see from staff, ever. Regardless of who is right. | |||
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"No one needs a phone when they go to a swinging club. Respect the rules or don't go. I hate the arrogance of people who assume that the rules don't apply to them What would your solution be then for couples with young kids? For what it's worth we don't have young kids but can imagine it's a nightmare for those that do. I really don't see a problem if someone has a phone in their pocket but doesn't use it in the club. I wouldn't even know it's there. " The same as parents did for years before mobile phones came along?? You leave them in the care of a capable adult who is able to deal with any issues that can arise with kids, like them being ill If you can't be away from your phone for an hour, you shouldn't be in a club If the sitter you have for kids, can't cope with something while you're not there, maybe you need to find another sitter? | |||
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"Our first ever club visit ended with 30 plus missed calls and a child getting rushed to hospital with breathing issues. Not a nice experience to end the night on. " And as horrible as that was, it happens. And could have been the same if you were out for a meal in an area where there wasn't a good signal. Or at the cinema with your phone switched on silent in your bag Having young kids means if you are leaving them with a sitter, then you are leaving them in charge, in your absence If you're really concerned about leaving them without contact for a couple of hours, get a better sitter or wait until they are older Mobile phones shouldn't be used in certain circumstances Inside clubs being one of them. | |||
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"Our first ever club visit ended with 30 plus missed calls and a child getting rushed to hospital with breathing issues. Not a nice experience to end the night on. And as horrible as that was, it happens. And could have been the same if you were out for a meal in an area where there wasn't a good signal. Or at the cinema with your phone switched on silent in your bag Having young kids means if you are leaving them with a sitter, then you are leaving them in charge, in your absence If you're really concerned about leaving them without contact for a couple of hours, get a better sitter or wait until they are older Mobile phones shouldn't be used in certain circumstances Inside clubs being one of them. " Totally agree. It was a freak one off. We checked the phone 5 minutes before we missed the first call. It happens. Rules are rules and we still stick to them now. | |||
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"Our first ever club visit ended with 30 plus missed calls and a child getting rushed to hospital with breathing issues. Not a nice experience to end the night on. And as horrible as that was, it happens. And could have been the same if you were out for a meal in an area where there wasn't a good signal. Or at the cinema with your phone switched on silent in your bag Having young kids means if you are leaving them with a sitter, then you are leaving them in charge, in your absence If you're really concerned about leaving them without contact for a couple of hours, get a better sitter or wait until they are older Mobile phones shouldn't be used in certain circumstances Inside clubs being one of them. Totally agree. It was a freak one off. We checked the phone 5 minutes before we missed the first call. It happens. Rules are rules and we still stick to them now. " I will go to and from the locker every hour or so and check my phone, only once when my daughter was recovering from an illness did I wear a smart watch but it doesn't have a camera on it so no way to record or take photos, but in general that stays at home and I leave my phone in my bag with the rest of my stuff | |||
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"I just want to add to this..... I have pics taken very obviously in a well known club. This is not because they allow cams in - its because I work there behind the bar and they are taken when the club is not open. I would never want anyone to think this could be a problem at Cupids Been a few times and never seen a phone except in changing room. Cannot believe the row this has turned into. Terrible for management/ staff to argue with a customer in public like this. Not taking sides, wasn't there and not likely to be in the future!!!" In truth you shouldn't ever see anyone in Cupids with a phone in their hand (unless they are in the changing room). If you do then report it to staff and the person will be dealt with appropriately | |||
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"I just want to add to this..... I have pics taken very obviously in a well known club. This is not because they allow cams in - its because I work there behind the bar and they are taken when the club is not open. I would never want anyone to think this could be a problem at Cupids Been a few times and never seen a phone except in changing room. Cannot believe the row this has turned into. Terrible for management/ staff to argue with a customer in public like this. Not taking sides, wasn't there and not likely to be in the future!!! In truth you shouldn't ever see anyone in Cupids with a phone in their hand (unless they are in the changing room). If you do then report it to staff and the person will be dealt with appropriately " | |||
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"I have no problem with people having a phone on their person once they're not pulling it out in the club. To give you a scenario: Couple leaves their kid with a sitter, goes to the club, leaves phone at reception and decides to check it every hour. Kid gets ill and vomits. Sitter calls the mum. No answer. Calls the dad, again no answer. Kid vomits again, sitter is getting worried. Calls the mum and dad, no answer. Kid is bawling and vomiting like something from the exorcist, sitter is having a panic attack. Can't get in contact with the parents, doesn't know whether to ring the hospital etc. Parent comes back after an hour to check their phone. 20 missed calls, 30 texts, kid in hospital and they need a new babysitter. All of that could have been avoided by a discreet buzzing in the pocket of one of parents who could then nip outside and take the call." Many, many (actually not that many) years ago there was a time before mobile phones...there must've been a lot of kids admitted to hospital when parents went out, either that or life went on as normal without them | |||
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"How can a club deal with an issue of a made up event ? Other club visitors on the same night have left the ususl great reviews and have said they saw nothing Facts are. CCTV shows nothing. 3 bar staff saw nothing. 1 door staff saw nothing and 7 customers who have commented on here or on reviewes from the sane night saw nothing The op is welcome to revisit the club and watch the cctv I've no idea who is right or wrong. But generally if a complaint is made I'd asking staff and customers not to respond individually. If I complain to tescos via Twitter, i'd expect them to say sorry for your experience contact us via email or on the phone or in person and we will investigate the issue. Not have Sam on the till tweet back that I am wrong or Joe in the queue say they saw nothing. Having a public battle just does not look right. Even ignoring a complaint looks better than a public battle. Like I say the couple could be making it up, but its the wider impression that is harmful rather than one bad review. IMHO. " | |||
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"I have no problem with people having a phone on their person once they're not pulling it out in the club. To give you a scenario: Couple leaves their kid with a sitter, goes to the club, leaves phone at reception and decides to check it every hour. Kid gets ill and vomits. Sitter calls the mum. No answer. Calls the dad, again no answer. Kid vomits again, sitter is getting worried. Calls the mum and dad, no answer. Kid is bawling and vomiting like something from the exorcist, sitter is having a panic attack. Can't get in contact with the parents, doesn't know whether to ring the hospital etc. Parent comes back after an hour to check their phone. 20 missed calls, 30 texts, kid in hospital and they need a new babysitter. All of that could have been avoided by a discreet buzzing in the pocket of one of parents who could then nip outside and take the call. Many, many (actually not that many) years ago there was a time before mobile phones...there must've been a lot of kids admitted to hospital when parents went out, either that or life went on as normal without them" Not that many years ago we didn't wear seat belts in cars. Just because we didn't use them in the past dosnt mean we shouldn't benefit from them now. | |||
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"I have no problem with people having a phone on their person once they're not pulling it out in the club. To give you a scenario: Couple leaves their kid with a sitter, goes to the club, leaves phone at reception and decides to check it every hour. Kid gets ill and vomits. Sitter calls the mum. No answer. Calls the dad, again no answer. Kid vomits again, sitter is getting worried. Calls the mum and dad, no answer. Kid is bawling and vomiting like something from the exorcist, sitter is having a panic attack. Can't get in contact with the parents, doesn't know whether to ring the hospital etc. Parent comes back after an hour to check their phone. 20 missed calls, 30 texts, kid in hospital and they need a new babysitter. All of that could have been avoided by a discreet buzzing in the pocket of one of parents who could then nip outside and take the call. Many, many (actually not that many) years ago there was a time before mobile phones...there must've been a lot of kids admitted to hospital when parents went out, either that or life went on as normal without them Not that many years ago we didn't wear seat belts in cars. Just because we didn't use them in the past dosnt mean we shouldn't benefit from them now. " Agreed, but not every outing ends in disaster and it didn't then either | |||
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"This thread must have people rushing to head to Amours and not because of the allegations but because of the responses " | |||
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"There has to be one rule for everyone Otherwise every w*nk*r, when challenged in a club, will plead, "but what about the children; someone think of the children"; pathetic Those who have children who they are so concerned about can open a 'mommy & daddy' club where people walk around with phones. I certainly don't want to be in a club where some tosser is waliking around wth one" I haven't seen one person suggest that people could use phones inside a club. | |||
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"We allow members to have their phones on them, or in lockers whilst in the club BUT they must be switched off at all times! They may go outside or in the toilets to call or check texts and then turn the phone off again (not on silent, actually switched off) for those that have young children with babysitters or the odd time a relative is seriously ill and have to be contactable whilst in the club, they can leave their phone with me in reception and we check them every 20-30 minutes, the member tells me which names they need to know called and this is written on a piece of paper wrapped around the phone. If the phone goes off then I go and find them, they can then come into reception to check to see if it's actually an emergency. This works well for us as we aren't a big club and the most phones we have had left with us is about 3 in any one night so no problem doing a quick check every half hour. Allowing members to have phones on them and switched on would potentially be a problem as it's too easy to get your phone out and check it without realising that you are in a club and others may think you are taking pictures/video. Safer to have them off in our opinion x x" | |||
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"Visited a well known club last night and was shocked to see so many people, who I'm sure were regulars, on their phones in the bar and them taking them up to the playrooms. Staff were obviously aware so I didn't see the need to mention it but it really left me uncomfortable. Is it so hard to put it in your locker and leave it there?" we was at a club last friday and one single man was walking around with a camera watch he was holding is towel across the front of is abbs with is watch facing forward. you may think he was just watching. but i have sold and installed CCTV for many years and this man was recording. we left the club. | |||
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"This thread must have people rushing to head to Amours and not because of the allegations but because of the responses " +1 +1 Has really got us wanting to visit... not | |||
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