FabSwingers.com forum: Abfabs last night

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What did people make of it. We went together and had 6-10 men walking behind us where ever we went expecting something and even got told are you going to hurry up and do something. It puts us off of the club scene a little

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"What did people make of it. We went together and had 6-10 men walking behind us where ever we went expecting something and even got told are you going to hurry up and do something. It puts us off of the club scene a little "
Did you complain ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We said it to the staff but they can't stop someone walking behind you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We said it to the staff but they can't stop someone walking behind you "

try dropping tacks behind you or if that does not work landmines, lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It will always be like that on quiet nights. If you are walking somewhere people think you may be off to play. If you stay still they leave you alone. (I don't mean like a statue, that would just be odd)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We said it to the staff but they can't stop someone walking behind you

try dropping tacks behind you or if that does not work landmines, lol."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is there a night it isn't like this ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a night it isn't like this ? "

not been for a while but sure abfabs is different saturday nights as its couples only and very enjoyable, even better with friends.

We rarely go to clubs where single guys are allowed now because of this. it is far too frequent unless there are people we know well there.

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By *ngeluk69Woman
over a year ago

Near enough

Did you not say anything to the actual guys?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For what it's worth I find that off-putting as well and seems to happen far too often in that club!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did you not say anything to the actual guys?"

Yeah but that doesn't stop them

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is there a night it isn't like this ?

not been for a while but sure abfabs is different saturday nights as its couples only and very enjoyable, even better with friends.

We rarely go to clubs where single guys are allowed now because of this. it is far too frequent unless there are people we know well there. "

We think we're give sats ago and see it the gives us faith again x

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

"Did you not say anything to the actual guys?

Yeah but that doesn't stop them "

Threaten to report them. They know they'll be banned if they continue harassing. It's not on x

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By *angbang junkieCouple
over a year ago

Ilkeston

If you said something to the staff, and they did nothing, that is piss poor.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did you not say anything to the actual guys?

Yeah but that doesn't stop them

Threaten to report them. They know they'll be banned if they continue harassing. It's not on x"

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you said something to the staff, and they did nothing, that is piss poor. "

They we told but what can you do

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Should of just told them all to fuck off. I dislike behaviour like that as it gives us single guys a bad rep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couples night is good but can be quite difficult to talk to other couples sometimes. It's good to go online and see who is going and so at least you have someone to talk to and start the ball rolling. Friday night and Mondays are often busier so you will have less attention at abfabs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was there on Wednesday during the day and stayed until about 10pm.

I've never really had a problem with single men there.

Some will follow, but I find it you ignore them, they get bored and go away.

Maybe it's worse for couples because they're waiting for you to play.

I think the atmosphere is a lot better during the day there. It's friendlier and less cliquey than in the evening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are like little minions aren't they?!!

We even found that on a Saturday night though! Lots of guys who hire a girl to get in and follow everyone else around!

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference.

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By *exylondongrlWoman
over a year ago

Esher

Other clubs do manage single guys much better!

I go to VA occasionally and more frequently Le Boudoir in London because it's the best club in the country now.

Two things here though. Single guys are entitled to be on the scene and I, playing as a single girl and sometimes with my partner do enjoy meeting single guys at clubs (it's also safer than meeting privately) So, a couple that doesn't want single guys should really avoid midweek or Friday parties and go on a coulples only night.

Second thing is about not only managing the number of guys admitted, but the type of guys admitted. When a club maintains its standards for things like smart dress code and general hygiene, you'll get better mannered guys.

Abfab has had its criticism recently for letting in groups wearing track suits and needing a shower.... I wouldn't play with them, would you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a night it isn't like this ?

not been for a while but sure abfabs is different saturday nights as its couples only and very enjoyable, even better with friends.

We rarely go to clubs where single guys are allowed now because of this. it is far too frequent unless there are people we know well there.

We think we're give sats ago and see it the gives us faith again x"

We stopped going on other nights for this reason but Saturdays are good and you don't get this issue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They are like little minions aren't they?!!

We even found that on a Saturday night though! Lots of guys who hire a girl to get in and follow everyone else around!

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference. "

This has to be a urban myth that won't die. What is your evidence that the woman was hired? For the cost of paying a woman to sit around and the entry and membership fee the man could pay could go and get guaranteed pleasure.

A while ago l was invited to Abfabs to accompany a single lady who was holding a celebration at Abfabs on a saturday with her friends. She turned around on the day before to say she would be going off to play with a number of couples that she had invited at some point in the evening. It was clear the invite to play did not extend to me so I refused to go because of people like the above would be thinking their biased thoughts. I would not follow people around but l could not be ecpected to sit in one place while she is having fun.

Maybe some men are more desperate or in love and will take any invite to Kestrels.

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference.

This has to be a urban myth that won't die. What is your evidence that the woman was hired?

I've seen it Ozzz. It does happen and it's not an urban myth lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference.

This has to be a urban myth that won't die. What is your evidence that the woman was hired?

I've seen it Ozzz. It does happen and it's not an urban myth lol"

SAS l will take your word, it seems a bizarre thing to do.

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference.

This has to be a urban myth that won't die. What is your evidence that the woman was hired?

I've seen it Ozzz. It does happen and it's not an urban myth lol

SAS l will take your word, it seems a bizarre thing to do."

Nowt so queer as folk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Escorts are frequently hired to attend clubs. Both with men as a couple an on there own as entertainment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference.

This has to be a urban myth that won't die. What is your evidence that the woman was hired?

I've seen it Ozzz. It does happen and it's not an urban myth lol

SAS l will take your word, it seems a bizarre thing to do.

Nowt so queer as folk

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Especially on a Monday night at Abfabs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If your talking about last Wednesday night most couples went home early because of the football and left a pack of blokes wandering round at the end with no clue looking to score.

Oh no sorry, that was the England team who got lost leaving Heathrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have pretty much stopped going to Abfabs now.

No control over the behaviour of the guy's.

Dress code is shocking.

Atmosphere more akin to a brothel than a club.

D*unkenness by members.

Last time we went I was very close to smacking some guy and I am a pretty laid back chap who rarely gets to that point.

But when guy's start groping your missus without even so much as a hello and bloke's start wanking in your earhole as there leering over the top of you looking down wife's top....

Look we like single guy's in fact we mostly play solely with single guy's.

But with the lack of respect, and control by staff we may as well go dogging!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbh we have not been for ages. It has definitely slipped in it's standards

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By *ngels of Sin 69Couple
over a year ago

High Wycombe

We wouldnt go tbh and only live about 10 mins away. We know lots of people that go and have been and it sounds quite rough to be honest and very clicky

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We wouldnt go tbh and only live about 10 mins away. We know lots of people that go and have been and it sounds quite rough to be honest and very clicky

Mrs"

It's good on Saturdays

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Other clubs do manage single guys much better!

I go to VA occasionally and more frequently Le Boudoir in London because it's the best club in the country now.

Abfab has had its criticism recently for letting in groups wearing track suits and needing a shower.... I wouldn't play with them, would you?

I have been to Le Boudoir twice and both occasions it was completely dead! I don't get why people rate it. Zero atmosphere and not enough people. Just my experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to go (female) to abfabs, but just do kestrels now.

Also love the facilities and that there are all sorts of people that go, it's not elitist but yes there are some single guys who walk 10 paces behind and follow, the long term staff would have a word with pests maybe there were new less confident staff on that night?Its such a shame if previous attendees stopped going because of this as not all single guys act like the key janglers.

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I used to go to ABFABS a lot too and some of the single guys are a real pain but I have a tendency to forget I am a lady when they try and touch me without invitation, and not in a good way!

Let's just say, my way of getting them to fuck off is effective and we'll leave it there!

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

In fairness AbFabParties is a lovely club, come one nobody can argue with that! Comparing what's available in London I mean have you seen the rest? I am not exaggerating but AbFabParties is one of the best if not the ONE to go to...

OK let's be fair, the place is always clean and well attended, with plenty of place to wonder around from a cinema, through a club house, than you have outdoor space with jacuzzi's and a pool and if that was not enough there is also a huge dungeon... not to mentions all the lovely huts on the way for you to play!!!

Now anything better that that it will never be allowed to be opened that's why they have their own legal battle but it's another story!

It comes without saying that as in every club that is open to the public (more or less) the evenings depends very much from who is attending! If you do not like single guys simply go on a Saturday which is Couples Only what is the problem?

If you are a confident couple and likes to be outnumbered by single guys that go on a Friday night BUT you need to be prepared to say a firm NO to some of them who would deserve even more of that!!!

We LOVE AbFabParties hence we use it for our private parties and it comes without saying we are supporting this club BUT not without it's merits as we have visited a few and we would certainly go for second best!!!

We started City Slickers because we could not agree with you more with the behaviours of 'some' single guys and have created a special night at AbFabParties by vetting everyone who attends, BUT that is certainly not without consequences!!!

We do get criticised for being so snobbish as we are highly selected... so there you are if you put yourself in the side of the organisers it is indeed very difficult to make everyone happy!

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

We have been a few times and have had some of our best times in a Club at AbFabs. We have never had a problem with single guys, or single girls or couples. Just go and enjoy yourself, if unhappy then mention it to the staff.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Maybe because AbFab is such a big and sprawling layout with lots of rooms and alcoves it can make it harder for staff (who are all really good) to spot such bad behaviour?

It's a shame that people seem to be getting put off attending as it really is such a nice club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was going to post the same thing, it is the owner of Boudoir which is sad that she is trying to bring down the other London Clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a night it isn't like this ? "
Saturday night

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By *appypear12Couple
over a year ago

huntingdon

Love the club even fridays ABFADS G8 CLUB long may it run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to clarify I have been to Le Boudoir, it was so quiet and absolutely no atmosphere, I don't wish them ill but I was annoyed to see the profile here slagging off another Club. In fact they have several profiles, most of them just praise the Club. I wish them well but please please please play fairly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Abfabs has changed.A few years ago it was quite good.On our last 2 visits we have exactly the same experience.I am sure there are couples who welcome this kind of attention but for us it is the biggest turn off ever.We now use the hellfire club almost exclusively and although it is frequented by single guys they are impeccably behaved.We put this down to the management who seem to adopt the philosophy of quality over quantity.

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

Anyway back to AbFabParties you have the choice of:

Fridays where single guys are allowed though you have to be a confident couple to be able to say NO or even more than that...

Saturdays Couples Only which is always a great party, OK you never know who is going to be there but you have the benefit of some lockable rooms where you can escape from unwanted players and lock yourself with your selected ones!!!

Kestrels DO NOT forget Kestrels is open every day and quite honestly where could you possibly go on a hot summer day? I mean I see lots of business women going to Kestrel pretending to have a Dentist Appointment they also leave their jackets at the chair in the office showing their intention to come back... if only!

But most importantly, how could I forget there will be our TOGA PARTY | SUMMER POOL PARTY on Thursday 28th July with a free BBQ from 21:00 to Midnight a Welcoming Bubbly Reception on your first hour of arrivel that is from 21:00 to 22:00 and above all with a select Guest List!!!

See you then folks HotnHornyToo couple is also invited!!!

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

See you then folks HotnHornyToo couple is also invited!!!

I was at kestrel last year the afternoon of your last Togo party. My fem friend asked if we could both get on the guestlist. I didn't see it personally so I'm only going on what I was told but apparently the question it was met with an eye roll and you walking away. It's great vetting your guestlist but maybe you can do it in a better way?

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

please don't be put off by people's comments on Friday's. yes there are a lot of sungle guys, but we have never had a problem. everyne has been polite and no has been totally accepted. you don't have to be uber confident, simply being comfortable with what you want. we tend to go on Mondays out of preference as it is a better mix, but no night has been anything other than fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Abfabs has changed.A few years ago it was quite good.On our last 2 visits we have exactly the same experience.I am sure there are couples who welcome this kind of attention but for us it is the biggest turn off ever.We now use the hellfire club almost exclusively and although it is frequented by single guys they are impeccably behaved.We put this down to the management who seem to adopt the philosophy of quality over quantity."

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/493928

Hellfire was the first club l went to and in terms of the layout, the rooms and decor did not grab me. I went a second time a year later and felt the same. I have been to Kestrels/Abfabs, Jaydees, Tease 2, Eureka, Radletts, the house in Sutton, Paradise Spa and BGHS all more than once twice but not Hellfire. Whenever l have been in a couple l go to Kestrels/Abfabs it offers more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've been attending Abs for over 10 years. Yes it does have it merits and much investment has beended made over the years. But over the past 18 months or so the standard has slipped alot. We don't attend anymore. The single guys are a pain, old tshirts and grubby jeans aren't acceptable and having your drinks stolen out of the fridge is just wrong. Surely they can afford to have a bar system like many other clubs. But what with the likelyhood that the venue is going to close at some point we don't expect improvement and have voted with our feet. FYI city sliders, thanks but no thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been attending Abs for over 10 years. Yes it does have it merits and much investment has beended made over the years. But over the past 18 months or so the standard has slipped alot. We don't attend anymore. The single guys are a pain, old tshirts and grubby jeans aren't acceptable and having your drinks stolen out of the fridge is just wrong. Surely they can afford to have a bar system like many other clubs. But what with the likelyhood that the venue is going to close at some point we don't expect improvement and have voted with our feet. FYI city sliders, thanks but no thanks."

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

See you then folks HotnHornyToo couple is also invited!!!

Obviously you are going on what you were told you as we do all our vetting online so as to avoid such confrontations and we close the Guest List 48 hours before the party...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See you then folks HotnHornyToo couple is also invited!!!

Obviously you are going on what you were told you as we do all our vetting online so as to avoid such confrontations and we close the Guest List 48 hours before the party..."

Let's face it your parties are all about making you money. Even if we could get on the guest list, which we can't because we are to old, we wouldn't. We have no time for the elite loving crowd as it flys in the face of the hedonistic attitude that the scene was built on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really hope the owners of Abfabs take note of the comments made.

Regarding the way guy's act, dress code and other comments.

We are going to give it once last go on couples night and then decide if we are going to give up going.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We go there on a Friday night .if you go to the dungeon area.

The prowlers are waiting for there prey .

We had trouble with the same Turkish kid a number of times. Shame the good big security bloke not on duty.

If you tell the guys straight they pretty good . It's just the odd one or two.

It's a great club but it's the men who need help from a nut doctor lol

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By *heartsasoneCouple
over a year ago

PL19 and PL4

Abfabs is only in it for the money and will get as many single guys in as possible as they know it's good income.

We have been many time's where the single guys are like a flock of birds and most look like they have just come in straight from work as smell like it.

But that said there is some men who clean up well.

Saturday can be OK agree with a comment make contact with a cpl before you go we find that easier

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

Sadly many clubs are similar.

We go to play with single guys but chams on Friday was a complete.... don't know the word.

I felt like a piece of meat. Yes our "please give us some space" was listened to but then a new crowd come in and it all starts again. One guy was wanking 6 inches from my face and then touched me without asking.... I brushed him away and he left with a tut.

There were no less than a dozen around us every time we started to play. I gave plenty of blow jobs but they tried to monopolise me which meant the other less forceful (more polite) guys didn't "get a turn" which I don't like.

I really don't know what the solution is. I like to play publicly, like to be watched, often invite singles to join in.... but there is a limit!!

We ended up playing in a locked room.... but ffs we could do that at home!

Sigh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Abfabs is only in it for the money and will get as many single guys in as possible as they know it's good income.

We have been many time's where the single guys are like a flock of birds and most look like they have just come in straight from work as smell like it.

But that said there is some men who clean up well.

Saturday can be OK agree with a comment make contact with a cpl before you go we find that easier "

Did you know that if a single guy turns up at the door and they haven't prebooked then if they pay £100 they let them in. So the whole prebooking thing is a total sham and just goes to prove the fact that anyone can walk in as long as you pays what they want.

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By *heartsasoneCouple
over a year ago

PL19 and PL4

"Sadly many clubs are similar.

We go to play with single guys but chams on Friday was a complete.... don't know the word.

I really don't know what the solution is. I like to play publicly, like to be watched, often invite singles to join in.... but there is a limit!!

We ended up playing in a locked room.... but ffs we could do that at home!

Sigh"

We have been many time's to chams at Darlaston and have to say we have never had a problem that said we are strong willed but we do know the staff are a 100% and would sort any problem out if told so sorry you had a bad experience

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Just to clarify I have been to Le Boudoir, it was so quiet and absolutely no atmosphere, I don't wish them ill but I was annoyed to see the profile here slagging off another Club. In fact they have several profiles, most of them just praise the Club. I wish them well but please please please play fairly."

I agree about Le Boudoir. It is a shame because the venue has great potential and lots of plays pace but it has as much atmosphere as a funeral parlour ..mostly because it is half empty! It needs proper promotion and hosting properly. A huge amount of vetting and checking to become a memento and pay over the odds to get in as a single woman...to find yourself in an club with about 10 - 15 people all sitting around looking at eachother uncomfortably. Dreadful.

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Sadly many clubs are similar.

We go to play with single guys but chams on Friday was a complete.... don't know the word.

I really don't know what the solution is. I like to play publicly, like to be watched, often invite singles to join in.... but there is a limit!!

We ended up playing in a locked room.... but ffs we could do that at home!

Sigh

We have had plenty of good nights at chams.... but I can't remember if they were Saturdays. But we still would like single guys as my partner doesn't play with others in a swinging environment. Shrug. Guess we're too picky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We actually chatted guy in his 60's who freely admitted he had paid the young attractive Eastern European girl (in her 20's) to come with him and he said it happens a lot... Guarantees them entry and they can have sex with the girl then possibly others plus they get the enjoyment of watching everything... So there is our evidence! We wouldn't just speculate... Haven't seen this in other clubs and of course it stands out! Agree there are lots of urban myths... For example we haven't seen a unicorn yet? ??

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

"We actually chatted guy in his 60's who freely admitted he had paid the young attractive Eastern European girl (in her 20's) to come with him and he said it happens a lot... Guarantees them entry and they can have sex with the girl then possibly others plus they get the enjoyment of watching everything... So there is our evidence! We wouldn't just speculate... Haven't seen this in other clubs and of course it stands out! Agree there are lots of urban myths... For example we haven't seen a unicorn yet? ??"

Haven't you seen my horn?

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Haven't you seen my horn?

some of us have! you just keep it hidden

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

Haven't you seen my horn?

some of us have! you just keep it hidden

I'm a shy girl you know

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

it is so easy to forget that bit...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is only evidence of one guy. Was the guy being pest? Why not a married couple the wife decides she is not playing and the husband is off chasing around.

I was in Abfabs on a saturday night the wife was playing with different couples the husband was running around trying to have sex with other women. My friend and l had spoken to them earlier in the jacuzzi before they got into horny mode when they said they in discussion they were married.

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By *rishmocha2Couple
over a year ago

Beds

"They are like little minions aren't they?!!

We even found that on a Saturday night though! Lots of guys who hire a girl to get in and follow everyone else around!

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference.

Maybe some men are more desperate or in love and will take any invite to Kestrels."

Seen it loads of times, I've known guys who have driven to clubs with a single lady, paid the entrance fee, she's gone & had fun plus she refused to play with him.

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By *heartsasoneCouple
over a year ago

PL19 and PL4

"They are like little minions aren't they?!!

We even found that on a Saturday night though! Lots of guys who hire a girl to get in and follow everyone else around!

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference.

Maybe some men are more desperate or in love and will take any invite to Kestrels.

Seen it loads of times, I've known guys who have driven to clubs with a single lady, paid the entrance fee, she's gone & had fun plus she refused to play with him. "

That's called ticketing and happens all the time at Abfabs and daytime kestrels

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"Abfabs is only in it for the money and will get as many single guys in as possible as they know it's good income.

We have been many time's where the single guys are like a flock of birds and most look like they have just come in straight from work as smell like it.

But that said there is some men who clean up well.

Saturday can be OK agree with a comment make contact with a cpl before you go we find that easier "

If you have come from work then I would suggest they use the showers. I sometimes have come to a club and I always try to have a shower either at the hotel or as soon as arrive at the club

I just wouldn't feel clean and its not fair on others

But the ticketing peice - I have done it before with a friend at chams a number of years ago, and I have done it one or two times. I tend not to do it. As I like the opertunity to go off and meet others, and I wouldn't like to be tarred with the same single guy brush

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over a year ago

All this, it's no wonder that the local authority wants to try and close Abfabs down.

Seriously most of what is going on is common knowledge and we ourselves have a few unsatisfactory stories we could share about our few visits to fabs.

Really think it's time the owners actually started to listen to customers rather than just being concerned about money.

Or am I being nieve?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The owner is just trying to rake in as much cash as possible. Its going to be shut down at some point and they know it. The drop in standards have really shown since the action against them started. Its such a shame as it was really good in the past..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love the place. Sunday daytimes are great.

The people are friendly, the place is kept clean and I've met some gorgeous, sexy single men there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love the place. Sunday daytimes are great.

The people are friendly, the place is kept clean and I've met some gorgeous, sexy single men there."

I don't belleve you!

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I went to Abfabs about 6 weeks ago and it was my 4th time this year - I went the first time 10 years ago

If anything as a single guy I would never follow a couple up to the stables or a room, I would at least give them time to go and maybe wander up about 5 to 10 mins later

It isn't hard to ask do you mind if I watch or join in and the amount of men (but not only men) that don't ask astounds me. This is not only Abfabs this applys to

Club etiquette should be that you look smart be at least in smart black jeans / dark navy, shoes and a shirt and or a jacket and shirt.

I al ways make sure that I have nice boxers on as well.

Personally clubs do a lot to make sure that only decent guys come, and I have known various clubs remove men that have not been or not let them in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this moaning is actually winding me up a little reading this!

AbFabs is proving time after time (read the club reviews for one point) that this club is THE place to go! The reason is because NO MATTER what day or evening you attend it is ALWAYS busy! Yes there are quiter days but there is ALWAYS people there!

Where else can you go as a Single Lady, Single Guy or as a Couple and have 6 to 13 hours of fun for one price??

When you attend clubs I see it as you make your own fun, just like life in general, it's NEVER handed to you on a plate (even if you pay for it!)

I have attended as a single female for months before becoming a couple and AbFabs is one of 2 clubs I would attend on my own with NO TROUBLE at all in the 14 months I have been going on a fairly regular basis!

Yes there are guys (and some women) that could do with a wash/trim before attempting to play or could smarten up their appearance but everyone is their own person with their own style.....you want beautiful people then go to a club that only allows beautiful people, they are out there!!

Majority of guys who attend AbFabs or Kestrels get the message when you slap their hand away when they touch, say a strong "NO", or a simple F*^% Off works!!

Also if you are a fairly sociable, friendly, polite person (both male or female) then you will get to know the regulars and the staff who will look after you like family!

My personal POV expressed and mini rant over.

Miss N x

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

Well said/ranted Miss N

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over a year ago

"All this, it's no wonder that the local authority wants to try and close Abfabs down.

Seriously most of what is going on is common knowledge and we ourselves have a few unsatisfactory stories we could share about our few visits to fabs.

Really think it's time the owners actually started to listen to customers rather than just being concerned about money.

Or am I being nieve? "

You're showing your ignorance as to the reason why the council are trying to close down Kestrels..

You might want to get your facts right before sounding like a Daily Mail reader.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This has happened every

Club we have been to

'I think though if you went on a couples night it would be so bad normally Saturday's

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over a year ago

"All this, it's no wonder that the local authority wants to try and close Abfabs down.

Seriously most of what is going on is common knowledge and we ourselves have a few unsatisfactory stories we could share about our few visits to fabs.

Really think it's time the owners actually started to listen to customers rather than just being concerned about money.

Or am I being nieve?

You're showing your ignorance as to the reason why the council are trying to close down Kestrels..

You might want to get your facts right before sounding like a Daily Mail reader. "

Well Said

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over a year ago

"All this, it's no wonder that the local authority wants to try and close Abfabs down.

Seriously most of what is going on is common knowledge and we ourselves have a few unsatisfactory stories we could share about our few visits to fabs.

Really think it's time the owners actually started to listen to customers rather than just being concerned about money.

Or am I being nieve?

You're showing your ignorance as to the reason why the council are trying to close down Kestrels..

You might want to get your facts right before sounding like a Daily Mail reader.

Well Said

There's no need to be rude!

Yes I know why they want to close it down, I didn't want to post another long rambling post just so I can prove to people like you that I can read.

Now you are showing ignorance assuming that I have no idea what the issues are and also that I even bother to read a newspaper let alone dross like the mail!

So how about you contribute to the thread by explaining to people why they are looking at getting closed rather than being provocative and argumentative.

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By *weetChariotMan
over a year ago

High Wycombe

Never been there alone, and only in day as Kestrels, but each time was hounded by single guys wanking outside of shed, one even pleaded to be let in.

Threatened them with reporting to front desk and they vanish.

Last time left on a Monday before AbFab started, it was filling up with single guys and adding booze didn't make me think it would go well.

However, I still adore the place and considering going alone this week or next. Certainly won't be wanking by a shed door, will more likely be reading my book while lounging in the meadow.

Pity the few ruin it for the many, I've found the atmosphere very chilled and friendly in the main.

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

See you then folks HotnHornyToo couple is also invited!!!

Ouch! Now THAT has gotta hurt! lol

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

We have been to AbFabs twice, once on a Saturday night and then on the following Sunday for one of the BBQs.

It was our first visit to the club and we had carried out a little research here in these beforehand (and yes if you look at our green arrow you will discover the sneers we received from AbFab "regulars" defending their club).

However, we did go along with the couple (non-Fabbers) who had suggested we accompany them and we had a fantastic evening! The club was full of very attractive couples all out to have fun! We enjoyed every minute and went away in the wee small hours with huge smiles on our faces!

We then returned on the following evening... Oh! Dear! The place was very quiet with single guys outnumbering couples by three to one at least. Our first experience of the "lemming effect" as the single guys followed our two ladies around wherever they went. Even in the lounge area, whilst sitting and chatting we found ourselves surrounded by a small crowd of drooling guys of all ages, most openly working themselves off at the sight of two attractive women dressed for a night at the club. It killed the night! The girls felt "threatened" (their word not mine) and any chance of a play-session between us was thwarted by the attentions of the "lemmings". We also spotted another couple that we know through this site and wanted to speak with them, but as they were surrounded by a fairly large group of single guys, we decided not to bother disturbing them.

In regard to the "pack" of guys that followed us everywhere... We did speak to the staff who shrugged it off with a "what can we do"?

That all being said, we enjoyed the Saturday evening so much we are planning a return trip!

So the moral of the story? It will be "Couples only" nights for us wherever we visit from now on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All this moaning is actually winding me up a little reading this!

Where else can you go as a Single Lady, Single Guy or as a Couple and have 6 to 13 hours of fun for one price??

When you attend clubs I see it as you make your own fun, just like life in general, it's NEVER handed to you on a plate (even if you pay for it!)

Majority of guys who attend AbFabs or Kestrels get the message when you slap their hand away when they touch, say a strong "NO", or a simple F*^% Off works!!

Also if you are a fairly sociable, friendly, polite person (both male or female) then you will get to know the regulars and the staff who will look after you like family!

My personal POV expressed and mini rant over.

Miss N x

Well said

This is exactly how I see Kestrels/AbFabs too xxx

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

See you then folks HotnHornyToo couple is also invited!!!

Ouch! Now THAT has gotta hurt! lol"

Stung for about 10 seconds then I realise parties like that and attitude are not for me. I'm a great addition and welcome at too many other parties to worry about this

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did you not say anything to the actual guys?"

Yeah had to stop j from ripping head off

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They are like little minions aren't they?!!

We even found that on a Saturday night though! Lots of guys who hire a girl to get in and follow everyone else around!

Think some of the other clubs control things a bit better than they do, that's the difference. "

Couldn't have put it better myself Minions. Does that mean I'm dispicable ?

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over a year ago

"We have pretty much stopped going to Abfabs now.

No control over the behaviour of the guy's.

Dress code is shocking.

Atmosphere more akin to a brothel than a club.

D*unkenness by members.

Last time we went I was very close to smacking some guy and I am a pretty laid back chap who rarely gets to that point.

But when guy's start groping your missus without even so much as a hello and bloke's start wanking in your earhole as there leering over the top of you looking down wife's top....

Look we like single guy's in fact we mostly play solely with single guy's.

But with the lack of respect, and control by staff we may as well go dogging!

Very true it's like they think that they pay to get it it gives them a right to get something

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In fairness AbFabParties is a lovely club, come one nobody can argue with that! Comparing what's available in London I mean have you seen the rest? I am not exaggerating but AbFabParties is one of the best if not the ONE to go to...

Now anything better that that it will never be allowed to be opened that's why they have their own legal battle but it's another story!

If you are a confident couple and likes to be outnumbered by single guys that go on a Friday night BUT you need to be prepared to say a firm NO to some of them who would deserve even more of that!!!

We do get criticised for being so snobbish as we are highly selected... so there you are if you put yourself in the side of the organisers it is indeed very difficult to make everyone happy!

The morale is we should all feel privileged to have so much choice and choose to go to an establishment that is open to everyone, or select the day in which only couples are allowed or go to a Private Party where everyone will be vetted and Happy Days!"
we went on a weds because we like be naked around other people feeling free. We can't make kestrels because of work

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"All this moaning is actually winding me up a little reading this!

Where else can you go as a Single Lady, Single Guy or as a Couple and have 6 to 13 hours of fun for one price??

When you attend clubs I see it as you make your own fun, just like life in general, it's NEVER handed to you on a plate (even if you pay for it!)

Majority of guys who attend AbFabs or Kestrels get the message when you slap their hand away when they touch, say a strong "NO", or a simple F*^% Off works!!

Also if you are a fairly sociable, friendly, polite person (both male or female) then you will get to know the regulars and the staff who will look after you like family!

My personal POV expressed and mini rant over.

Miss N x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if you are a non regular and you don't like telling stranger's to fuck off, don't bother going?

Surely it shouldn't be down to customers to police other customers behaviour?

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

A very interesting topic is it not? At long last we seem to have a variety of incredibly misleading threads and all in one single post…

The OP was not at all amused that she had been followed by several single ‘rough’ guys even vulgar (apparently) and off putting to which I can entirely sympathise with that, as a single guy I too was put off by such behaviour in most Clubs and that’s why I started City Slickers Parties to prove that in fact not all single guys are the same!

Now let’s analyse it from a staff point of you: AbFab welcomes everyone, in order to become a member, you turn up at the reception with the requested form of ID, you pay the membership the entrance fee and everyone is welcome! Is it not?

The staff at AbFab will most certainly NOT tolerate any unsociable behaviour, you only have to report it and the job is done, but how can they stop someone from walking behind you? There are of course lockable rooms from which you can escape from unwanted players. As we all know on Fridays single guys are allowed while on Saturdays which is Couples Only other threads seem to confirm that is obviously not like that!

Now we are talking about Clubs who allow anyone without ‘discrimination’ whatsoever which is what everyone in here wants right? Well look at this:

LE BOUDOIR: SexyLondongrl refers to Le Boudoir as ‘The Best Club in the country now’ slagging and trying to bring down AbFab while SubbyKitten who has been to Le Boudoir twice now, confirms that on both occasions it was completely dead! Zero atmosphere and not enough people. TwoMs confirm us also that Le Boudoir was so quiet with absolutely no atmosphere when they attended.

HELLFIRE: By a conveniently (user no longer on site) seems to slag also AbFab and suggest that the Hellfire Club is frequented by single guys who are impeccably behaved.

PandoraLivesHere boasts that if a single guy turns up at the door and they haven’t rebooked than if they pay £100 they let them in… yet a few threads above SecretlyASoftie she is not happy because once she was refused entrance to a City Slickers Party because her and her friend had not rebooked… Hell-o? 2 single Girls who turn up at the door £40 x 2 = £80 and they get refused entrance because they were not on the Guest List… Come on Guys this does not make any sense and it gets better!

SpiritsonFab comments that sadly many Clubs (referring to those open to everyone) are similar and as much as she likes to play publicly at times she feels like a piece of meat… How sad is that?

Jools and the Brain comes to the conclusion that it’s no wonder that the local authority wants the closure of AbFab and PandoraLivesHere supports that the standards of AbFab have really shown since the action against then started. Guys but do you know what you are saying or you are just talking the talk But of course AbFab is there to make money Entertainment is a Business or how do you think they would keep an establishment open for you to enjoy yourself? Now if you were running a business uncertain if you can stay open or not would you carry on investing and improving it at the highest standards?

Some Establishments are open to Everyone, because this is what most people demand, look at the Club Listing the choice there is and if they were not making money they would not remain listed.

AbFab is the most successful Club and is always full, while other clubs are half empty, but if a Club is popular and attracts many people, of all shapes and forms, it comes without saying that within a larger crowd you will get some odd people that they should not be there… but what can you do apart from telling the staff?

We vet people, we do not have such problems and yet we are criticised that we are elitist and Swinging should be for everyone in all shapes and forms well BUT you do have the choice of other club they do just that and you are equally not happy?

I tell you why AbFab and other clubs are under pressure from councils: Because we SWINGERS are a bunch of idiots from the Elitists to those who go Dogging on the A3 we are all considered Filthy Swingers and the reason is that we cannot simply form a strong and supportive group which is a weakness… Look at the Forums we slag one another we shred each other apart in the Forum and nobody has the courage to stand up and say:

I AM A SWINGER AND SOWHAT? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A SWINGER.

I would like to see more solidarity and use the Forum provided by Fabswingers for our advantage and to strengthen SWINGERS as another sexual minority perhaps a highly sexual but till we start to form a solid bound nothing will ever change.

You will be sorry when AbFabParties is gone!

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over a year ago

"A very interesting topic is it not? At long last we seem to have a variety of incredibly misleading threads and all in one single post…

Now we are talking about Clubs who allow anyone without ‘discrimination’ whatsoever which is what everyone in here wants right? Well look at this:

HELLFIRE: By a conveniently (user no longer on site) seems to slag also AbFab and suggest that the Hellfire Club is frequented by single guys who are impeccably behaved.

SpiritsonFab comments that sadly many Clubs (referring to those open to everyone) are similar and as much as she likes to play publicly at times she feels like a piece of meat… How sad is that?

Some Establishments are open to Everyone, because this is what most people demand, look at the Club Listing the choice there is and if they were not making money they would not remain listed.

I AM A SWINGER AND SOWHAT? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A SWINGER.

You will be sorry when AbFabParties is gone!

It happens to be a fact that if you pay what they ask they will let anyone in. Going rate is £100 on the door. If you don't believe me ask Graham.

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over a year ago

"A very interesting topic is it not? At long last we seem to have a variety of incredibly misleading threads and all in one single post…

Now we are talking about Clubs who allow anyone without ‘discrimination’ whatsoever which is what everyone in here wants right? Well look at this:

HELLFIRE: By a conveniently (user no longer on site) seems to slag also AbFab and suggest that the Hellfire Club is frequented by single guys who are impeccably behaved.

SpiritsonFab comments that sadly many Clubs (referring to those open to everyone) are similar and as much as she likes to play publicly at times she feels like a piece of meat… How sad is that?

Some Establishments are open to Everyone, because this is what most people demand, look at the Club Listing the choice there is and if they were not making money they would not remain listed.

I AM A SWINGER AND SOWHAT? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A SWINGER.

You will be sorry when AbFabParties is gone!

Crikey talk about reading inbetween the lines.

I said the local authority wants to close the place.

I did not state that it's due to the reasons discussed in this thread.

The reasons for the authority wanting to close it are many and as I said before I really didn't want to get into a long rambling post explaining this.

There are many previous thread's going into detail about this.

I was trying to make the point that, with prostitutes entering the building being paid for by a guy to attend plus the general behaviour of said chap's and the whole feeling like a brothel, is only going to add fuel for the fire and give the authority ammunition.

We don't want the place to close Infact if you read our profile we are planning a visit on a Saturday night.

We have been on a Friday and had quite a number of issues, such as guy's groping Jools without even so much as a hello, strange guy's following us even into the toilet.

So much so Jools was scared and wanted to come home.

But hey you all jump to your own conclusions make of my comments whatever you will i am saying no more on the matter.

We are going to go again and as suggested if we have issues we will report it.

Happy swinging xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just to out it to bed we have both decided to give a Saturday ago as we really like the club and its lay out x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The simple reason why the local authority is trying to close Kestrels is for breach of the planning laws. No other ground has been put forward.

I think the description was that the lady was hired to attend but they also had sex, l am not sure that is technically prostitution. Even if she was a prostitute given that she was not touting for work l am pretty sure nothing that would interest the local authority or the police has occurred.

I find this whole discusion by the anti abfab group strange. You don't like the place state your reasons move on and don't visit the place again, but the laying it on with the trowel smacks of prejudice.

From my own view as a single person there is only two ways to meet people with which to play. The first is talk to people but not everyone is that confident, nor would couples want tens of single men coming up to them.

The second is being in the right place at the right time. Given the size of Kestrels the later creates the line of followers. I have seen a shorter version of this line at other clubs when men gather around the door. I have visited Kestrels as a couple and had that experience of the line dance and it is amusing rather than intimidating. I have also had people knock the door and try to get in. But then l have had the door tried on couples night. or the couples equivalent of wanking when you play where you are playing and they stand around you and talk about their holiday or kids at the top of their voices.

Reading the forum you will see that other clubs have the same comments about single men. The possible exception is Vanilla Alternative but that lets in one single man every other Xmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody single men, giving me massages, chatting politely, giving me orgasms

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over a year ago

"Bloody single men, giving me massages, chatting politely, giving me orgasms

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"A very interesting topic is it not? At long last we seem to have a variety of incredibly misleading threads and all in one single post…

Now we are talking about Clubs who allow anyone without ‘discrimination’ whatsoever which is what everyone in here wants right? Well look at this:

HELLFIRE: By a conveniently (user no longer on site) seems to slag also AbFab and suggest that the Hellfire Club is frequented by single guys who are impeccably behaved.

SpiritsonFab comments that sadly many Clubs (referring to those open to everyone) are similar and as much as she likes to play publicly at times she feels like a piece of meat… How sad is that?

Some Establishments are open to Everyone, because this is what most people demand, look at the Club Listing the choice there is and if they were not making money they would not remain listed.

I AM A SWINGER AND SOWHAT? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A SWINGER.

You will be sorry when AbFabParties is gone!

It happens to be a fact that if you pay what they ask they will let anyone in. Going rate is £100 on the door. If you don't believe me ask Graham."

I cannot comment on what I do not know, However I would strongly recommend that you should have sufficient proof before accusing people in the forum because this is libellous and can backfire on you!

Obviously you cannot say the same for City Slickers because a) we have a thread in this very topic confirming that two girls who were not on the guest list were denied access and b) you can take back your 'Thank You BUT No Thanks' because if you are not a member at City Slickers you will not be able to attend no matter how much money you have to offer us...

So as you will see we are not all money grabbers as you may want us to appear!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bloody single men, giving me massages, chatting politely, giving me orgasms

I am happy to act as appallingly again, because l am rebel! I have my imaginary quiff, invisible leather jacket and denims on, smoking a non existent cigerrette. I am the spitting image of James Dean.

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over a year ago

"A very interesting topic is it not? At long last we seem to have a variety of incredibly misleading threads and all in one single post…

Now we are talking about Clubs who allow anyone without ‘discrimination’ whatsoever which is what everyone in here wants right? Well look at this:

HELLFIRE: By a conveniently (user no longer on site) seems to slag also AbFab and suggest that the Hellfire Club is frequented by single guys who are impeccably behaved.

SpiritsonFab comments that sadly many Clubs (referring to those open to everyone) are similar and as much as she likes to play publicly at times she feels like a piece of meat… How sad is that?

Some Establishments are open to Everyone, because this is what most people demand, look at the Club Listing the choice there is and if they were not making money they would not remain listed.

I AM A SWINGER AND SOWHAT? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A SWINGER.

You will be sorry when AbFabParties is gone!

It happens to be a fact that if you pay what they ask they will let anyone in. Going rate is £100 on the door. If you don't believe me ask Graham.

I cannot comment on what I do not know, However I would strongly recommend that you should have sufficient proof before accusing people in the forum because this is libellous and can backfire on you!

So as you will see we are not all money grabbers as you may want us to appear!

No great loss really x

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Personally I don't go to Abfabs as often as I would like for the following reasons

Cost - 60 quid entrance + 30 to 40 quid taxi home

Booking on a Monday but waiting till Wednesday or Thursday to be told if on guest list even if try to get on list at 9am on the Monday

I am often at football on a Saturday

Friday's I am often tired from work

The club has best facilities that I have ever been to.

Personally I have seen this year a few guys who clearly had more drink than they really should have turn up at the club, and that they had come in groups - now maybe I am missing something how did they pre-book.

With some couples that go on a mixed night then moan about single guys, I question that they know it's a mixed night and whilst I agree

That following them 5 meters away is wrong wandering up to the stables 5 mins later to see if there is anything happening isn't and couples do the same!

Sometimes i wonder if some of the people (mainly men) have been educated in the scene

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By *ecretlyASoftieWoman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

"A very interesting topic is it not? At long last we seem to have a variety of incredibly misleading threads and all in one single post…

Now we are talking about Clubs who allow anyone without ‘discrimination’ whatsoever which is what everyone in here wants right? Well look at this:

HELLFIRE: By a conveniently (user no longer on site) seems to slag also AbFab and suggest that the Hellfire Club is frequented by single guys who are impeccably behaved.

SpiritsonFab comments that sadly many Clubs (referring to those open to everyone) are similar and as much as she likes to play publicly at times she feels like a piece of meat… How sad is that?

Some Establishments are open to Everyone, because this is what most people demand, look at the Club Listing the choice there is and if they were not making money they would not remain listed.

I AM A SWINGER AND SOWHAT? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A SWINGER.

You will be sorry when AbFabParties is gone!

It happens to be a fact that if you pay what they ask they will let anyone in. Going rate is £100 on the door. If you don't believe me ask Graham.

I cannot comment on what I do not know, However I would strongly recommend that you should have sufficient proof before accusing people in the forum because this is libellous and can backfire on you!

So as you will see we are not all money grabbers as you may want us to appear!

Carlos Id prefer you didn't keep using me as an example as I don't believe the reason you gave above is accurate that we were denied entrance because we hadn't pre-booked

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"A very interesting topic is it not? At long last we seem to have a variety of incredibly misleading threads and all in one single post…

Now we are talking about Clubs who allow anyone without ‘discrimination’ whatsoever which is what everyone in here wants right? Well look at this:

HELLFIRE: By a conveniently (user no longer on site) seems to slag also AbFab and suggest that the Hellfire Club is frequented by single guys who are impeccably behaved.

SpiritsonFab comments that sadly many Clubs (referring to those open to everyone) are similar and as much as she likes to play publicly at times she feels like a piece of meat… How sad is that?

Some Establishments are open to Everyone, because this is what most people demand, look at the Club Listing the choice there is and if they were not making money they would not remain listed.

I AM A SWINGER AND SOWHAT? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A SWINGER.

You will be sorry when AbFabParties is gone!

It happens to be a fact that if you pay what they ask they will let anyone in. Going rate is £100 on the door. If you don't believe me ask Graham.

I cannot comment on what I do not know, However I would strongly recommend that you should have sufficient proof before accusing people in the forum because this is libellous and can backfire on you!

So as you will see we are not all money grabbers as you may want us to appear!

Carlos Id prefer you didn't keep using me as an example as I don't believe the reason you gave above is accurate that we were denied entrance because we hadn't pre-booked

... or you were not a member and therefore unable to pre-book and your point is?

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Regarding the 100 quid to get into Ab Fabs thing.

I think a single guy who attends Kestrels in the day (on Fridays only) can stay over into the Ab Fabs party without pre booking but has to pay the entrance fees (35 for kestrels then 60 for ab fabs).

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over a year ago

"Regarding the 100 quid to get into Ab Fabs thing.

I think a single guy who attends Kestrels in the day (on Fridays only) can stay over into the Ab Fabs party without pre booking but has to pay the entrance fees (35 for kestrels then 60 for ab fabs).

That's not it at all.

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

Well,

A lively discussion to be sure!

CitySlickers... We have absolutely no idea who you are or what your parties are like except the fact that you sort of suggest that they are elitist (which probably means I won't get onto the guest list as I am a redhead and Tone won't as he is older than your threshold age).

However, your forensic analysis of everyone else's comments and subsequent rhetoric has prompted us to question your purposes for defending an establishment that we like, on certain nights... That is great, but has its failings.

The bottom line is, we are aware of those failings (in our eyes) and we can work around them. We are realists insomuch as we appreciate no establishment is going to be perfect for everyone on every occasion. However, we would remind you that the fervent supporters of AbFabs very nearly put us of attending in the first place (I even think one user did tell us that the place would be better off if we did not attend) and now your passion might have put us off again.

Folks... Any club is what it is. Every night will be different as it depends upon the clientele that attend that night and the atmosphere that is generated. So perhaps it would be better to look to those who attend rather than to what the club can do for you?

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"Well,

A lively discussion to be sure!

" Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country "

[President John F Kennedy]

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

Is it me, or does that answer not make any sense at all?

Maybe we are looking for a range of quotations?...

"Life's most persistent and urgent question is, 'What are you doing for others?' - Martin Luther King, Jr.

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"Is it me, or does that answer not make any sense at all?

Maybe we are looking for a range of quotations?...

"Life's most persistent and urgent question is, 'What are you doing for others?' - Martin Luther King, Jr."

Very simple really. Here is the answer:

We are providing an additional choice, in order to avoid seediness associated with the traditional ‘scene’ which seems to be criticised by the OP and supported by other users namely

• SpiritsonFab admits that sadly many Clubs are similar! She feels like a ‘piece of meat’ and as much as they like to join an establishment where everyone is welcome, they ended up playing in locked room… which as they say they could do that at home!

• SoNaughty confirms that such seediness does happen in every Club!

So there is obviously a demand on the market for those people who pay more to be vetted so that they can attend a party in which they do not have to lock in private rooms to escape from unwanted players!

Some greedy girls DO like to be outnumbered by single guys BUT with the right type of guys in fact at City Slickers Only Females Members have the right to introduce and vouch for individual single guys who they deem Gentlemen in the Lounge and Studs in the Bedroom when required!

Each to their own… Why does it bother you so much? This is a Democratic Country or is it not? Hmmm debatable!

Look at the Swingers Club Directory the choice we have available to suit each individual taste?

https://www.fabswingers.com/clubs/

Enjoy Swinging, BE PROUD TO BE A SWINGER and HAPPY DAYS!!!

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

I didn't realise "it" bothered us at all... lol

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"I didn't realise "it" bothered us at all... lol"

Well then... You should know best what to do

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

Maybe... But I am sure you are gong to tell me in any event!! lol

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By *ebedee2009Man
over a year ago

South Croydon

Ventured there last night as a couple after a bit of a break, and it was always my fave club. Clean as ever, great welcome , lots of great people there...and come chucking out time there was an influx of badly dressed, hygeine allergic trash for want of a better word.

We left as quite frankly a bunch of childish smelly let out for the night and can't handle it idiots spoilt it for many.

On the plus side, the couple we shared a cab with were absolute stars.

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"Ventured there last night as a couple after a bit of a break, and it was always my fave club. Clean as ever, great welcome , lots of great people there...and come chucking out time there was an influx of badly dressed, hygeine allergic trash for want of a better word.

We left as quite frankly a bunch of childish smelly let out for the night and can't handle it idiots spoilt it for many.

On the plus side, the couple we shared a cab with were absolute stars."

Thank you for sharing your experience with us, much appreciated.

Would agree therefore that as well as having establisments open to everyone in all forms and shapes, not to mention the freedom that each of us can have for even going dogging on the A3... There is the demand also for select Private Parties that insist on a vetting criteria that does not discriminates but encourages those who attend to take resonably good care of themselves?

This is only to be considered as an additional available choice that can be addressed within the Swinging Scene?

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

The thing is, city slickers, is that despite quoting me above, I'm not at all sure we'd get into one of your parties, so for us we have to put up with what's out there, as we sure can't start our own

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

"The thing is, city slickers, is that despite quoting me above, I'm not at all sure we'd get into one of your parties, so for us we have to put up with what's out there, as we sure can't start our own

Of course you could! That's why I started... I was not happy with what was around and I did not want to waste my energies in criticising everybody in the forum so I decided to use my ideas in a much more productive way and guess what? That was 7 years ago and today we have 9000 Members!

Anybody can... Trust me! But of course it's always easier to criticise at other Club owners and/or Party Organisers forgetting that not only we are only humans but also passionate Swingers xxx

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

That's great if swinging is your life - power to you, definitely.

But I wasn't criticising the club. I was expressing how I felt among dozens of single males.

At one point I was giving several men bj and not one made any positive noises or sounds of pleasure.... I was lying with my head back over the bed and at one point had to hold MY OWN head up to give my neck a rest!! So I lost interest in them and went elsewhere with my partner;);)

No reflection on the club at all.

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By *requent_FerryersCouple
over a year ago

Norwich to Great Yarmouth

Anybody can... Trust me! But of course it's always easier to criticise at other Club owners and/or Party Organisers forgetting that not only we are only humans but also passionate Swingers xxx"

We hope that you realise the plain simple fact that your constant criticism of others' points of view actually puts people off your "parties".

Your parties are "elitist" according to your own statements!

We enjoy AbFabs and take it for what it is... We do not need you to be constantly telling us that our views are wrong.

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Brighton & Hove

Anybody can... Trust me! But of course it's always easier to criticise at other Club owners and/or Party Organisers forgetting that not only we are only humans but also passionate Swingers xxx

We hope that you realise the plain simple fact that your constant criticism of others' points of view actually puts people off your "parties".

Your parties are "elitist" according to your own statements!

We enjoy AbFabs and take it for what it is... We do not need you to be constantly telling us that our views are wrong."

We do not criticise anyone! We are simply providing a choice which is in demand as this thread has shown.

We do not need either to be constantly criticised that what we do is wrong because each one of us is free to choose wherever they wish to go and socialise with whom they want to!

We do select the best venues and thank you for admitting you also like AbFab as indeed we would not host our parties in there if we did not like the venue.

So... We select the best venues, we select the sexiest people, why should this bother some people?

We are doing extreemely well thank you very much!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Update on our posts on this thread previously.

We attended last Friday night.

29th July.

As a (one final fling of the dice for the Friday night)

Actually had a great time.

Met some really nice people chatted to a few couples and a some single guy's and a woman.

Obviously there was the normal odd chap's who seemed to be only interested in stareing at jools boobies but who can blame them.

(if you were there Jools was the lady with little black dress with zip down front)

She had a great time wanking a few guys in the glory hole room.

Despite a small blip regarding playing with one guy partly our fault.

We had a nice evening.

Atmosphere much better.

Did witness the door staff letting in two guy's who name not on the list saying if they payed 100 each they could come in.

Couldn't believe they payed up!

But that's between staff and them.

Didn't spoil our night.

Our only gripe with fabs is the lack of lockable private play rooms.

As far as we know there are only two?

Rest have windows or semi open.

But assuming that the club is still open we will be returning on a Friday.

Jools loves cock, what can I do

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By *ermandrMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

This is such a pity. I've not been this year, but I felt that things were positively on the 'up' last year. I remember when o first started to attend Abfabs, everyone was so smartly dressed and polite and there was a real sense of occasion to the evening.

Things started to get bad around the middle of the year before last. Tracksuits. Gangs of guys. Mobile phones. D*unks. I wrote to them and posted on the forum on here and they did seem to tighten things up again.

As a single male (usually) I see absolutely no point in attending clubs unless you are polite, charming, sociable, sober and immaculately clean, well dressed and have no sense of expectation or entitlement.

I'm back down South in a few weeks and I hope to meet my regular friends at Abfabs one Friday. If it's got as bad as this thread suggests, then it's up the A1 to VA again.

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

North Wessex Downs Ares

It's tricky - some nights are better than others - but the stalking thing does no one any favours. Great pity as this seems to be on the increase, and in fairness, apart from upping the price for single chaps, there's probably little the club can do about it. With 'swinging' being so accessible these days it's sadly more common - ten years ago it was much much better. Perhaps Saturdays is the way forward?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How long will Abfabs continue ?

The news on planning sounds very final.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely if it closes at its current location it will just open somewhere else.

Maybe closer to travellodge on the trading estate.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"Update on our posts on this thread previously.

We attended last Friday night.

29th July.

As a (one final fling of the dice for the Friday night)

Actually had a great time.

Met some really nice people chatted to a few couples and a some single guy's and a woman.

Obviously there was the normal odd chap's who seemed to be only interested in stareing at jools boobies but who can blame them.

(if you were there Jools was the lady with little black dress with zip down front)

She had a great time wanking a few guys in the glory hole room.

Despite a small blip regarding playing with one guy partly our fault.

We had a nice evening.

Atmosphere much better.

Did witness the door staff letting in two guy's who name not on the list saying if they payed 100 each they could come in.

Couldn't believe they payed up!

But that's between staff and them.

Didn't spoil our night.

Our only gripe with fabs is the lack of lockable private play rooms.

As far as we know there are only two?

Rest have windows or semi open.

But assuming that the club is still open we will be returning on a Friday.

Jools loves cock, what can I do

I am glad you had a better time - sometimes with clubs it is just what happens on that night

Well I am sorry the door staff should have said no they can't come in - regardless if they are paying an extra 40 quid - there are people that would go if they were on the list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbh we only tend to go on a Friday night as we find the atmosphere and mix of people better than a Saturday evening.

I am gald the OP had a better time on a Friday than on previous visits and hope to see you back there again soon

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By *reakShow90Man
over a year ago

Manchester/halifax

Have to say as a single guy I find that really out of line I have seen it a few times with younger lads or some middle eastern guys(not all just the ones I have seen in a club I go to) and well they walk in and act like that's it they should be getting fucked 5mins after walking in the door or even worse seen groups of guys huddling round a door I guess daring each other to open it after the door was shut to say no one enter

Ps before every one starts calling me a racist iam not I don't care who or what you are just as I have said I can only go on what I have seen yet have met some really nice middle eastern guys but a group that come in a lot to a few clubs I go too always seem to behave this way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely if it closes at its current location it will just open somewhere else.

Maybe closer to travellodge on the trading estate.

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Not sure it will be that easy to find a new venue. People will be aware of this situation with the planners and planning could well be the issue again.

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over a year ago

"Surely if it closes at its current location it will just open somewhere else.

Maybe closer to travellodge on the trading estate.

Not sure it will be that easy to find a new venue. People will be aware of this situation with the planners and planning could well be the issue again."

Is the strip club still open on the Colnbrook bypass? If that can stay open.

Also moving to other side of m25 would probably be a different authority anyway?

Is it spelthorne currently?

Would come under Slough or Windsor??

Not sure.

But if it's in a non residential area can't see the problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We went on Saturday night. Granted, it has been a while since we were last there, but our overriding feeling was that the quality had diminished quite a bit.

It was a pretty quiet night in general with a fairly sparse crowd. Not a massive amount of play going on. Even though it is deemed a couples and ladies only night, there were definitely 2 single gents prowling around. One, we had to strictly reject touching her after he came into the cinema and jumped up beside us and started wanking. He didn't give a shit. Some fuckers have no manners at all.

The other not nice tale was girls looking to 'borrow' a £5 note for a few minutes while they go to the toilet. Make of that what you will.

I am honestly not sure we will go back. It is a journey for us and it the costs all add up.

It is such a shame because our first night there is still a wonderful memory.

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over a year ago

"We went on Saturday night. Granted, it has been a while since we were last there, but our overriding feeling was that the quality had diminished quite a bit.

The other not nice tale was girls looking to 'borrow' a £5 note for a few minutes while they go to the toilet. Make of that what you will.

I am honestly not sure we will go back. It is a journey for us and it the costs all add up.

It is such a shame because our first night there is still a wonderful memory.

Eugh, some people have no class! Personally, I only snort through a fifty.

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over a year ago

"We went on Saturday night. Granted, it has been a while since we were last there, but our overriding feeling was that the quality had diminished quite a bit.

The other not nice tale was girls looking to 'borrow' a £5 note for a few minutes while they go to the toilet. Make of that what you will.

I am honestly not sure we will go back. It is a journey for us and it the costs all add up.

It is such a shame because our first night there is still a wonderful memory.

Did you report these girls to staff members as AbFabs have a strict no drugs policy?!?

Also did you report the obvious single guys?

If no-one reports these things, how are staff meant to deal with them?

Maybe that would have been better than moaning on here??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bad manners and lack of respect on the mens part here.........

they should have been told to stop pestering/harrassing

stalkings actually an offence as is harrassment

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over a year ago

"We went on Saturday night. Granted, it has been a while since we were last there, but our overriding feeling was that the quality had diminished quite a bit.

The other not nice tale was girls looking to 'borrow' a £5 note for a few minutes while they go to the toilet. Make of that what you will.

I am honestly not sure we will go back. It is a journey for us and it the costs all add up.

It is such a shame because our first night there is still a wonderful memory.

Did you report these girls to staff members as AbFabs have a strict no drugs policy?!?

Also did you report the obvious single guys?

If no-one reports these things, how are staff meant to deal with them?

Maybe that would have been better than moaning on here??"

It is ok to have a moan you know. I appreciate you seem to either work there or have a close relationship there going by your previous comments on this topic.

For transparency and i should have included it initially, the £5 request conversation was overheard by a staff member and he gave said lady a telling off but nothing more.

And finally, we have always found the staff warm and approachable there, so I am not at all trying to have a dig at anyone.

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over a year ago

"We went on Saturday night. Granted, it has been a while since we were last there, but our overriding feeling was that the quality had diminished quite a bit.

The other not nice tale was girls looking to 'borrow' a £5 note for a few minutes while they go to the toilet. Make of that what you will.

I am honestly not sure we will go back. It is a journey for us and it the costs all add up.

It is such a shame because our first night there is still a wonderful memory.

Did you report these girls to staff members as AbFabs have a strict no drugs policy?!?

Also did you report the obvious single guys?

If no-one reports these things, how are staff meant to deal with them?

Maybe that would have been better than moaning on here??

It is ok to have a moan you know. I appreciate you seem to either work there or have a close relationship there going by your previous comments on this topic.

For transparency and i should have included it initially, the £5 request conversation was overheard by a staff member and he gave said lady a telling off but nothing more.

And finally, we have always found the staff warm and approachable there, so I am not at all trying to have a dig at anyone.

I don't work there and I attend the same as you do, nothing more.

I just don't like to see the negative comments that are made on here...if there is an issue why not sort it at the time rather than leaving it until a few days later to discuss it on here when the staff can't do anything about it and it looks negative to others?

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By *reakShow90Man
over a year ago

Manchester/halifax

"We went on Saturday night. Granted, it has been a while since we were last there, but our overriding feeling was that the quality had diminished quite a bit.

The other not nice tale was girls looking to 'borrow' a £5 note for a few minutes while they go to the toilet. Make of that what you will.

I am honestly not sure we will go back. It is a journey for us and it the costs all add up.

It is such a shame because our first night there is still a wonderful memory.

Eugh, some people have no class! Personally, I only snort through a fifty. "

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