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"A friend of mine has kindly provided the address of the journalist after doing some investigation . I won't post on here but if you want to contact him direct with some feedback let me know. " Unfortunately I would not recommend that be given out to anyine. If the journalist receives abuse at his home he can call the police and the people concerned could end up with criminal records themselves. | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha " Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? " . I've tried to pm you but outside your age range, my heart goes out to you, I think you should contact ipso, ASAP, google them, whilst you can't do anything about the papers distributed you may be able to get them taken down offline, it's worth a try for any damage limitation no matter how small may help Mrs blue eyes | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? " My heart goes out to u. It looks as though I've just missed out on being on about 4 of the pics, or I would be in the same situation as u so I do feel for u. My kids are teenagers it doesn't bare thinking about. From the angle of one of the pics I was stood next to the photographer, if only I'd known eh? Bastards xx | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? " It's so awful I feel so bad for you Hun! I really hope there's something you can do about it and that no one you know will see or has seen! Xxx | |||
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"A friend of mine has kindly provided the address of the journalist after doing some investigation . I won't post on here but if you want to contact him direct with some feedback let me know. Unfortunately I would not recommend that be given out to anyine. If the journalist receives abuse at his home he can call the police and the people concerned could end up with criminal records themselves." OMG it's not his home address. I,unlike him respect people's privacy. As for his work address he had no regard to work colleagues, bosses, friends and more importantly family seeing the pictures he posted. What a vile way to make a living x | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? " So sorry this has happened to you hun. You were fab all weekend and Swingfields is one of the rare times I can catch up with you. How dare they be so irresponsible with peoples lives? | |||
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"I hope that those that have been photographed haven't been caused to much hurt and upset. We have been missed by about e or 4 foot in a couple of the pictures. So so lucky otherwise we would have major problems about now." Unfortunately I didn't escape and have been recognised | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? " Feel for you. . I was gutted who I got sent a screen grab from a neighbour last night.. "you are famous" didn't go down well... | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? . I've tried to pm you but outside your age range, my heart goes out to you, I think you should contact ipso, ASAP, google them, whilst you can't do anything about the papers distributed you may be able to get them taken down offline, it's worth a try for any damage limitation no matter how small may help Mrs blue eyes" . I've just called ipso and they have said you can have them taken down or pixelated under the clause 2 privacy act, you need to fill out a complaints form on the ipso website and call the editor and tell them you have taken a case up with ipso under the clause 2 privacy act, this may get it sorted quicker, she also said if lots of people call the editor, it may help, so I've put a help thread up in the lounge, hope this helps, Mrs blue eyes | |||
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"Whilst I feel sorry for the people that have been outed it's not really a surprise, it's a sad fact of the world we live in that these things happen. Social media being what it is and a internet savvy generation these things are never going to be either private or secure environments. I have seen pics that's people have posted on thier profiles which were taken at the event, so if swingers themselves can't be trusted to protect the identity of fellow swingers why should the media care ? It's not the first time there has been a breach of security at Swingfields it happens last year also efferena was plagued with media coverage so it's of no suprise it happened this year. When you mass market a event as Swingfields is you lose control of who attends and end up with completely un known or verified guests. Therefore running the risk of this happening. The cynic in me often wonders if these breaches in security are often encouraged by the organisers as the amount of people who stop going due to it will be hugely outweighed by the influx of new punters going next year due to the free advertising provided by the sun so is it a case that you won't stop it so why not embrace it. That said It would be impossible for the organisers to stop it whatever protocol was put it place. I do wonder if the people who were outed and upset by it have ever read the sun or some other low rent paper and read a article about the Personal life or troubles of a celebrity ? As lots are happy to intrude in the private lives of others but are upset when it happens to them. " i looked at pics in sun and so shocked at how easy you can see faces . I'm glad I'm in none off pics . But gutted for some who are . What happend to live and let live . ! . | |||
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"Whilst I feel sorry for the people that have been outed it's not really a surprise, it's a sad fact of the world we live in that these things happen. Social media being what it is and a internet savvy generation these things are never going to be either private or secure environments. I have seen pics that's people have posted on thier profiles which were taken at the event, so if swingers themselves can't be trusted to protect the identity of fellow swingers why should the media care ? It's not the first time there has been a breach of security at Swingfields it happens last year also efferena was plagued with media coverage so it's of no suprise it happened this year. When you mass market a event as Swingfields is you lose control of who attends and end up with completely un known or verified guests. Therefore running the risk of this happening. The cynic in me often wonders if these breaches in security are often encouraged by the organisers as the amount of people who stop going due to it will be hugely outweighed by the influx of new punters going next year due to the free advertising provided by the sun so is it a case that you won't stop it so why not embrace it. That said It would be impossible for the organisers to stop it whatever protocol was put it place. I do wonder if the people who were outed and upset by it have ever read the sun or some other low rent paper and read a article about the Personal life or troubles of a celebrity ? As lots are happy to intrude in the private lives of others but are upset when it happens to them. " Seriously!! I don't read tabloids for that reason. We were assured by the organisers that security of privacy was paramount. You obviously haven't been affected but you are entitled to your opinion. Those of us that have been affected can do without your comments. | |||
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"If I ever meet that bitch - Antonella Lazzeri ever again then she will be dealt with severely....how dare she mention me by name as to running the life drawing class and how very dare she sensationalise my physical difference...... I was at the event as a human being not for any physical difference I may have whether its height, obesity disability. We were all there because we are human beings having fun .....I am fuming especially as that bitch kept smiling and looking at me during the life modelling sessions and shyed away from doing any sketching..... why the hell didn't any of us recognise her as she's renowned for sensational articles ..... Well I didn't because I don't read that B%^ls£*t newspaper that she works for!!! " we she is on twatter so get on there and have a rant on the bitch. see if you get a response | |||
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"just as a matter of interest have the organizers had anything to say..." Yes see above or the previous thread. They are in touch with solicitors | |||
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"Whilst I feel sorry for the people that have been outed it's not really a surprise, it's a sad fact of the world we live in that these things happen. Social media being what it is and a internet savvy generation these things are never going to be either private or secure environments. I have seen pics that's people have posted on thier profiles which were taken at the event, so if swingers themselves can't be trusted to protect the identity of fellow swingers why should the media care ? It's not the first time there has been a breach of security at Swingfields it happens last year also efferena was plagued with media coverage so it's of no suprise it happened this year. When you mass market a event as Swingfields is you lose control of who attends and end up with completely un known or verified guests. Therefore running the risk of this happening. The cynic in me often wonders if these breaches in security are often encouraged by the organisers as the amount of people who stop going due to it will be hugely outweighed by the influx of new punters going next year due to the free advertising provided by the sun so is it a case that you won't stop it so why not embrace it. That said It would be impossible for the organisers to stop it whatever protocol was put it place. I do wonder if the people who were outed and upset by it have ever read the sun or some other low rent paper and read a article about the Personal life or troubles of a celebrity ? As lots are happy to intrude in the private lives of others but are upset when it happens to them. Seriously!! I don't read tabloids for that reason. We were assured by the organisers that security of privacy was paramount. You obviously haven't been affected but you are entitled to your opinion. Those of us that have been affected can do without your comments. " We have been effected it a similar way , the management of our local club were discussing with vanilla people who attended thier club and as a result we were outed and recieved anonymous letters etc. We have had to deal with it and as a result we no longer go to the club but have had to accept that what we do is of interest to people either for gossip or to sell papers, and it's a risk we take. I don't agree with what has happened but sadly it a fact of life and it's happened before at every event so it's not like people were not warned we all do these things knowing the risk and choose to continue sadly it just comes with the territory. | |||
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"just as a matter of interest have the organizers had anything to say... Yes see above or the previous thread. They are in touch with solicitors " That's great hope they get something sorted | |||
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"If I ever meet that bitch - Antonella Lazzeri ever again then she will be dealt with severely....how dare she mention me by name as to running the life drawing class and how very dare she sensationalise my physical difference...... I was at the event as a human being not for any physical difference I may have whether its height, obesity disability. We were all there because we are human beings having fun .....I am fuming especially as that bitch kept smiling and looking at me during the life modelling sessions and shyed away from doing any sketching..... why the hell didn't any of us recognise her as she's renowned for sensational articles ..... Well I didn't because I don't read that B%^ls£*t newspaper that she works for!!! " . | |||
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"If I ever meet that bitch - Antonella Lazzeri ever again then she will be dealt with severely....how dare she mention me by name as to running the life drawing class and how very dare she sensationalise my physical difference...... I was at the event as a human being not for any physical difference I may have whether its height, obesity disability. We were all there because we are human beings having fun .....I am fuming especially as that bitch kept smiling and looking at me during the life modelling sessions and shyed away from doing any sketching..... why the hell didn't any of us recognise her as she's renowned for sensational articles ..... Well I didn't because I don't read that B%^ls£*t newspaper that she works for!!! " Dealt with severely? | |||
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"Hi guys The press are monitoring this forum hourly, they are details you are all revealing and using it to keep the story in the press. Can everyone please stop putting comments on this forum so they cannot gain anymore info about the festival. If you have any issues please contact Swingfields directly, they will respond as soon as possible. The sooner this thread goes quiet the sooner this press invasion will stop. Come on guys help the Swingfields team." Admin why don't you close the threads down? Alongside the genuine concern of some, others maybe aligned to our festival events seem to be stirring | |||
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"Hi guys The press are monitoring this forum hourly, they are details you are all revealing and using it to keep the story in the press. Can everyone please stop putting comments on this forum so they cannot gain anymore info about the festival. If you have any issues please contact Swingfields directly, they will respond as soon as possible. The sooner this thread goes quiet the sooner this press invasion will stop. Come on guys help the Swingfields team. Admin why don't you close the threads down? Alongside the genuine concern of some, others maybe aligned to our festival events seem to be stirring " | |||
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"Hi guys The press are monitoring this forum hourly, they are details you are all revealing and using it to keep the story in the press. Can everyone please stop putting comments on this forum so they cannot gain anymore info about the festival. If you have any issues please contact Swingfields directly, they will respond as soon as possible. The sooner this thread goes quiet the sooner this press invasion will stop. Come on guys help the Swingfields team. Admin why don't you close the threads down? Alongside the genuine concern of some, others maybe aligned to our festival events seem to be stirring " Because it's only right that people have a place to voice there views and opinions | |||
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"Swingfields has asked not to continue the related posts as reporters are monitoring them. Do feed them more info." | |||
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"Shut this Admin, please! Those concerned should discuss with organisers, or seek legal advice. Lets give them no more than that!" | |||
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"I suggested last time that you are giving them more airtime by starting threads about it and I got shot down. Maybe it is best to let it drop off the bottom of the page " Threads should be closed by fab till it blows over. They close others very quickly. | |||
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"we need a swingers union.. if LGBT can have Stonewall... Imagine if it had been a LGBT event? look at the article and replace the word swingers with Gays... they would have been eaten alive. and still should." Totally agree. The comments in the sun were inaccurate and they have no understanding of what swinging is about. | |||
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"OK, been told by Admin here I can't put a link in, but everyone involved needs to be complaining to IPSO. Google it, takes you to the web site, then Make A Complaint!! Personally think it breaks 4 rules. 1. Accuracy,,,,dwarfs in orgies?? 1 present, and was well behaved. 2. Privacy....no comment 3. Clandestine Devices, nearly all taken on hidden cameras. 4. Sexual Discrimination. Swinging is a sexual choice. They are discriminating against us, as they did Gay's 20 years ago. Don't not complain!! " I have reported on all four counts of this!!! | |||
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"... if it can be talked about in the Scum it can be talked about in here.. ID should have been taken for EVERY person going and checks made. This was not rocket science 9/10 the gutter press was going to be there. The security for the event is woefully inadequate.. The organisation should be held to account. Next step EVERY club should have a database of all gutter press scumbags like this woman and her photographer. " How will ID checks prevent journalists getting in? | |||
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"we need a swingers union.. if LGBT can have Stonewall... Imagine if it had been a LGBT event? look at the article and replace the word swingers with Gays... they would have been eaten alive. and still should. Totally agree. The comments in the sun were inaccurate and they have no understanding of what swinging is about. " I wouldn't say much media coverage of swinging is that accurate, it's a story sensationalised to sell the paper. | |||
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"... if it can be talked about in the Scum it can be talked about in here.. ID should have been taken for EVERY person going and checks made. This was not rocket science 9/10 the gutter press was going to be there. The security for the event is woefully inadequate.. The organisation should be held to account. Next step EVERY club should have a database of all gutter press scumbags like this woman and her photographer. How will ID checks prevent journalists getting in? " False name & ID springs to mind, you can fake it quite easily.... | |||
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"If I ever meet that bitch - Antonella Lazzeri ever again then she will be dealt with severely....how dare she mention me by name as to running the life drawing class and how very dare she sensationalise my physical difference...... I was at the event as a human being not for any physical difference I may have whether its height, obesity disability. We were all there because we are human beings having fun .....I am fuming especially as that bitch kept smiling and looking at me during the life modelling sessions and shyed away from doing any sketching..... why the hell didn't any of us recognise her as she's renowned for sensational articles ..... Well I didn't because I don't read that B%^ls£*t newspaper that she works for!!! " I feel dreadful for you Chris. You worked so hard this weekend. Big hugs to you xxx | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha I spotted my caravan. Well it is called a cockpit after all " | |||
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"Just continuing the thread as it got too big, overall I thought it was well organised, the ground was not forgiving for the layout however the security issues are now in the forefront of people's minds, but it's in the mail and the sun online, Dont take a knee jerk reaction and go off on one, the news will blow over, Personally I'm gutted I'm not in one of the pictures haha Really? Are you? I'm clearly in them - and they've even pixilated one to make it looks like I've been groped! My kids are 11and 12 - can you imagine what their mum will be called in the classroom tomorrow? - and how they'll feel? Tears running down my face - great huh? " I'm with you although only seen in the crowd and not playing our faces are clearly visible we have children jobs lives outside swinging and what we do in our spare time should remain private xxx | |||
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"If I ever meet that bitch - Antonella Lazzeri ever again then she will be dealt with severely....how dare she mention me by name as to running the life drawing class and how very dare she sensationalise my physical difference...... I was at the event as a human being not for any physical difference I may have whether its height, obesity disability. We were all there because we are human beings having fun .....I am fuming especially as that bitch kept smiling and looking at me during the life modelling sessions and shyed away from doing any sketching..... why the hell didn't any of us recognise her as she's renowned for sensational articles ..... Well I didn't because I don't read that B%^ls£*t newspaper that she works for!!! I feel dreadful for you Chris. You worked so hard this weekend. Big hugs to you xxx" Big hugs Chris mark and cat xxx | |||
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"I hope that those that have been photographed haven't been caused to much hurt and upset. We have been missed by about e or 4 foot in a couple of the pictures. So so lucky otherwise we would have major problems about now. Unfortunately I didn't escape and have been recognised " We didn't escape either and our faces are so clear not even blurred out xx | |||
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"A gross invasion of privacy for sure and my thoughts are with anyone involuntarily 'outed' by these stories. But anyone alarmed about being recognised and the potential impact on their 'civilian' lives and who also have their face pic on clear public display must surely see the irony - if you're concerned about privacy please keep face pics hidden! This is a free site and any Tom, Dick or Harry can access your public galleries! Stay safe people " | |||
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"A gross invasion of privacy for sure and my thoughts are with anyone involuntarily 'outed' by these stories. But anyone alarmed about being recognised and the potential impact on their 'civilian' lives and who also have their face pic on clear public display must surely see the irony - if you're concerned about privacy please keep face pics hidden! This is a free site and any Tom, Dick or Harry can access your public galleries! Stay safe people " ^^^^^ | |||
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"Is there any difference between this and revenge porn? WHAT IS REVENGE PORN? Revenge Porn is the sharing of private, sexual materials, either photos or videos, of another person without their consent and with the purpose of causing embarrassment or distress. The images are sometimes accompanied by personal information about the subject, including their full name, address and links to their social media profiles. The offence applies both online and offline and to images which are shared electronically or in a more traditional way so includes the uploading of images on the internet, sharing by text and e-mail, or showing someone a physical or electronic image. WHAT WILL THE OFFENCE COVER? The new offence will criminalise the sharing of private, sexual photographs or films, where what is shown would not usually be seen in public. Sexual material not only covers images that show the genitals but also anything that a reasonable person would consider to be sexual, so this could be a picture of someone who is engaged in sexual behaviour or posing in a sexually provocative way." Why I was wrong a lot earlier asking for the thread to be closed. Always extremely useful to see other opinions, and helpful ideas. Thank you. | |||
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"Is there any difference between this and revenge porn? WHAT IS REVENGE PORN? Revenge Porn is the sharing of private, sexual materials, either photos or videos, of another person without their consent and with the purpose of causing embarrassment or distress. The images are sometimes accompanied by personal information about the subject, including their full name, address and links to their social media profiles. The offence applies both online and offline and to images which are shared electronically or in a more traditional way so includes the uploading of images on the internet, sharing by text and e-mail, or showing someone a physical or electronic image. WHAT WILL THE OFFENCE COVER? The new offence will criminalise the sharing of private, sexual photographs or films, where what is shown would not usually be seen in public. Sexual material not only covers images that show the genitals but also anything that a reasonable person would consider to be sexual, so this could be a picture of someone who is engaged in sexual behaviour or posing in a sexually provocative way." This is a very good point, people pictured in the articles were non consenting so surely they should remove the pics/article from their websites. | |||
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"Pleased to announce the IPSO listened and have ensured that The Sun pixelate the pictures...bit late, but hey ho. Damages we wonder??" They've changed the wording of the article as well. Damage is done for many though | |||
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"Pleased to announce the IPSO listened and have ensured that The Sun pixelate the pictures...bit late, but hey ho. Damages we wonder??" There is a two page article in the printed sun showing faces. How do they stand with that given its already been distributed ? | |||
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"Clearly it is..as now the poor buggers who had their faces printed printed in the press are now having to explain to friends and family why they went and what it means.Many of the threads have been about the consequences and fall out of being 'outed' so clearly there is a correlation and association. I'm sorry if you dont agree with us but the evidence is apparent in the themes of these threads." Thank you You hit the nail on the head There is a clear face pic of us printed not playing but confirming we were there and now we could face alot of questions and explaining to our families and vanilla friends what we do is our business and they should not intrude on something they know nothing about and truly understand and certainly shouldn't be invading our privacy everyone is entitled to an opinion the ones that count at this time are the ones like us that can be clearly regocnised by the people we know and outed or the ones with non consensual sex or play photos distributed to the nation xx | |||
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"I disagree... why isnt it the same? its about orientation and sexuality. What if the headline' bunch of lesbians and gay people frolicking in a field...what a bunch of dirty buggers' we are more closely aligned to the LGBT community as lifestylers then any other group and there would have been many LGBT members amongst us( and more than welcome). Can you imagine the backlash to the press if they would have presented a PRIDE march or festival in the same light. I hoped these days of ignorance were behind us. I hoped we would had at least been afforded the same rights? Are you discriminated in everyday life? Do you have to hide your sexual it on certain parts of the world? Do you get discriminated when it comes to adoption. Can you walk down the street holding hands? It's nothing like. Lgbt at all!!!" sorry but last time we walked down the road as a 3 some holding hands, we had plenty of looks! Yes walking into the newsagents today I received all kinds of knowing looks! And yes, if we honestly answered all the questions on a foster parents form we too wouldn't be allowed to adopt. Don't think we are that different at all, and should also support each other in legal battles with the outdated press...... Don't you? | |||
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"I guess the organisers of the event possibly will take it further and possibly get a payout win win for them they've had our money we are the ones that have been exposed but they will be the ones to gain monetary wise from the journo when it's us people that have been photographed and we get nothing out of it Nothing stopping you from mounting your own legal challenge." Like we can afford that!! And then also not would just our pics be out there but also our names duh | |||
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"I guess the organisers of the event possibly will take it further and possibly get a payout win win for them they've had our money we are the ones that have been exposed but they will be the ones to gain monetary wise from the journo when it's us people that have been photographed and we get nothing out of it Nothing stopping you from mounting your own legal challenge. Like we can afford that!! And then also not would just our pics be out there but also our names duh" The organisers will be mounting a challenge and they're just as likely to be recognised, by photo and by name. If you want to be angry with someone, be angry with the reporters and the newspaper, not the SF organisers who did not do this. | |||
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"I disagree... why isnt it the same? its about orientation and sexuality. What if the headline' bunch of lesbians and gay people frolicking in a field...what a bunch of dirty buggers' we are more closely aligned to the LGBT community as lifestylers then any other group and there would have been many LGBT members amongst us( and more than welcome). Can you imagine the backlash to the press if they would have presented a PRIDE march or festival in the same light. I hoped these days of ignorance were behind us. I hoped we would had at least been afforded the same rights? Are you discriminated in everyday life? Do you have to hide your sexual it on certain parts of the world? Do you get discriminated when it comes to adoption. Can you walk down the street holding hands? It's nothing like. Lgbt at all!!!sorry but last time we walked down the road as a 3 some holding hands, we had plenty of looks! Yes walking into the newsagents today I received all kinds of knowing looks! And yes, if we honestly answered all the questions on a foster parents form we too wouldn't be allowed to adopt. Don't think we are that different at all, and should also support each other in legal battles with the outdated press...... Don't you? " To right nows the time to come together as a community my complaints in feel for all thoughs with printed pictures | |||
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"We have asked the Editor of the Sun to justify why he thought that publishing pictures of our faces was in the Public Interest and not of interest to the public. We just received an email from him saying that he is investigating our complaint and will reply to me tomorrow. Depending on his response will determine if we are taking legal action or not. We will post his reply on here as soon as we get it. " Thanks guys keep us posted xx | |||
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"I guess the organisers of the event possibly will take it further and possibly get a payout win win for them they've had our money we are the ones that have been exposed but they will be the ones to gain monetary wise from the journo when it's us people that have been photographed and we get nothing out of it Nothing stopping you from mounting your own legal challenge. Like we can afford that!! And then also not would just our pics be out there but also our names duh The organisers will be mounting a challenge and they're just as likely to be recognised, by photo and by name. If you want to be angry with someone, be angry with the reporters and the newspaper, not the SF organisers who did not do this." The organisers don't have a problem with being known it's their business but what really made me cross was within 2 hours of being there we saw the reporter going in tents taking pictures and told staff they had a quick look for her but should have swarmed the place looking for her. Anyway are you in any if the pictures? If not you have no idea what it's like | |||
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"Im horrified! I picked up this thread as thought id hear how it was, seeing as i couldnt go n that. And OMG. Cant believe this has happened to people. Id be furious. Isnt there something here about a right to a private life. Although I voted out...we are still in. Wondering if there is something in the human rights act where there has been a violation of inidividuals privacy, taking pictures and printing the without neither their knowledge or consent and it is not in the public interest to do so. Are they aslo breaking some of the press rules that came about in the leveson enquiry? What a bunch of wankers to have done this. Theyve no right to shame people for making choices that are consensual and not harming others or breaking laws. There is another way of managing it too....getting the point out there of not being ashamed from leading a lifestyle less vanilla. Process wouldnt take as long. And press...if you're reading this. Get a different life. Your's is obviously pitifully empty if you have to ruin others in order to survive. Havent you heard, karma is a bitch. " Well said xxx | |||
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"I guess the organisers of the event possibly will take it further and possibly get a payout win win for them they've had our money we are the ones that have been exposed but they will be the ones to gain monetary wise from the journo when it's us people that have been photographed and we get nothing out of it Nothing stopping you from mounting your own legal challenge. Like we can afford that!! And then also not would just our pics be out there but also our names duh The organisers will be mounting a challenge and they're just as likely to be recognised, by photo and by name. If you want to be angry with someone, be angry with the reporters and the newspaper, not the SF organisers who did not do this. The organisers don't have a problem with being known it's their business but what really made me cross was within 2 hours of being there we saw the reporter going in tents taking pictures and told staff they had a quick look for her but should have swarmed the place looking for her. Anyway are you in any if the pictures? If not you have no idea what it's like" Oh and no organisers did not do this but assured us we would be safe as more security but I didn't notice any more than last year | |||
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"I guess the organisers of the event possibly will take it further and possibly get a payout win win for them they've had our money we are the ones that have been exposed but they will be the ones to gain monetary wise from the journo when it's us people that have been photographed and we get nothing out of it Nothing stopping you from mounting your own legal challenge. Like we can afford that!! And then also not would just our pics be out there but also our names duh The organisers will be mounting a challenge and they're just as likely to be recognised, by photo and by name. If you want to be angry with someone, be angry with the reporters and the newspaper, not the SF organisers who did not do this. The organisers don't have a problem with being known it's their business but what really made me cross was within 2 hours of being there we saw the reporter going in tents taking pictures and told staff they had a quick look for her but should have swarmed the place looking for her. Anyway are you in any if the pictures? If not you have no idea what it's like" I am, but that doesn't mean I have more or less right to complain. They probably took a lot of pics but only published the really salacious ones. The organisers said at the start that they couldn't do anything unless people told them. I would have bugged them until they did, but I didn't see anyone taking pics. And judging from the location of the pics, people stood right in front of them didn't see them taking the pics. The organisers sorted an excellent weekend (weather notwithstanding) but people are angry with them! As if they're the ones who caused this. As if this won't affect whether there is a SF next year at all. This is their business. Do you really think they aren't having exactly the same misgivings as everyone else? Complain to the Sun editor like others have. Complaint to the Press Complaints people. You don't have to say who you are on the pics, you don't have to even say you were there, you just have to say that the pics are a disgraceful invasion of a private event. | |||
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"Really!!!! So are you suggesting that X and Y chromosones suggest at birth suggest who is LGBT? My wife at 47 years old and three kids later decided she likes the company of women as well as men after we got into the lifestyle and spent 8 years dipping our toes. Are you suggesting that it has lain dormant for 47 years?" Yes that's exactly what has happened or its a case that we are all bi and we just repress it. | |||
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"A gross invasion of privacy for sure and my thoughts are with anyone involuntarily 'outed' by these stories. But anyone alarmed about being recognised and the potential impact on their 'civilian' lives and who also have their face pic on clear public display must surely see the irony - if you're concerned about privacy please keep face pics hidden! This is a free site and any Tom, Dick or Harry can access your public galleries! Stay safe people ^^^^^ " Exactly. | |||
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"Ladies, Gents now is not the time to fall out over 'Sexuality'. We all need to come together and support each other over this gross invasion of our private lives. As a previous poster said, ask the editor of the Sun (unfortunately the Mail and Mirror broke no laws, as they pixilated people's faces) to investigate why those pictures were published, without hiding people's identity. If you wish to make a complaint to IPSO then this is your first port of call. So we urge you all to ask the Editor to justify why they published what they did, we have and await the Editors response. If administration are OK, can we post the contact details of the Editor of The Sun please. " An earlier post said links and contact details couldn't be posted but googling IPSO and Sun Editor contact is pretty foolproof. | |||
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"Ok pixilate the photos but also remove reference to me and my physical difference...... aaarrrghhhhhh . I was there as a human being like all of you and not some novelty gimic - Sadly one woman called Sam thought it would be a novelty to have fun with me - I soon put her in her place!! Now if I was black and that Antonella Lazzera had referred to me as 'Chris the Nigger' then there would be hell to pay but as usual its seen ok to poke fun at people who are physically different. I am currrently seeking ways an means of getting that womans career dealt with harshly. Bitch from stinking hell !! Oh and by the way - please stop blaming the organisers and security ..... there was no way this woman and her mate Nigel would have been spotted as unusual BUT if they had then they would have been minced meat!!! " I just wanted to say you were awesome all weekend. I hate seeing the people saying 'I told you so', and 'well what did you expect', as if their faces and lives might not be tabloid fodder at any given moment. | |||
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"I would hope in this day and age that people have the decency to understand that 3somes etc are more common sexual practices than society pretends. I can only feel for those exposed. Things like this will always attract attention as it's titillating. But posting faces is irresponsible and un-nessasary and as I've already mentioned seems to be breaking revenge porn laws. I'd hope the police would be around the editors house and the journalist house with a nice little late night raid and getting them locked up for the night. What more evidence do the police need? They published it all and their names are directly attributed. If it was me doing that to an ex partner and splashing my name all over it I'm sure they would have no issue in dragging me off to be interviewed under caution. I'm not against suing but they will be used to that it's a job hazard for them. Arrest and detention will demonstrate how serious the criminal justice system takes this crime." Nah police won't do anything but you are right in one thing that in 21st Century 3some or moresome should be nobody's business as if it doesn't hurt anyone why should it bother the public so much? The day in which we can all come out of the closed (as the gay scene has) and admit loud and clear that we enjoy sex and that there is absolutely nothing wrong between consensual adult sex we will always be responsible for providing reasons for the media to exploit what we do and we are all responsible!!! | |||
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"I would hope in this day and age that people have the decency to understand that 3somes etc are more common sexual practices than society pretends. I can only feel for those exposed. Things like this will always attract attention as it's titillating. But posting faces is irresponsible and un-nessasary and as I've already mentioned seems to be breaking revenge porn laws. I'd hope the police would be around the editors house and the journalist house with a nice little late night raid and getting them locked up for the night. What more evidence do the police need? They published it all and their names are directly attributed. If it was me doing that to an ex partner and splashing my name all over it I'm sure they would have no issue in dragging me off to be interviewed under caution. I'm not against suing but they will be used to that it's a job hazard for them. Arrest and detention will demonstrate how serious the criminal justice system takes this crime. Nah police won't do anything but you are right in one thing that in 21st Century 3some or moresome should be nobody's business as if it doesn't hurt anyone why should it bother the public so much? The day in which we can all come out of the closed (as the gay scene has) and admit loud and clear that we enjoy sex and that there is absolutely nothing wrong between consensual adult sex we will always be responsible for providing reasons for the media to exploit what we do and we are all responsible!!! great words but wasn't your city slickers team supposed to be swingfields sponsors.. Didn't see your there supporting ?? I fact none of your supposed team was there .. ???? " To be perfectly honest with you GorgeouslyYours, camping in a field we do not find that sensual for a party, as our Hostess at City Slickers Parties you should know very well that we have a reputation for being... Snobbish and that's the way it is! Why did we support Swingfield? Because I have great respect to all organisers that are trying very hard to make a stamp in the lifestyle and I am a strong belever there should be freedom of choice and a space for everyone to socialise! Swingfield may not be my cup of tea but I am not criticising it like many people are against City Slickers Parties!!! I suppot alternative organisers as there should be freedom of choice in the scene and I strongly believe each to their own | |||
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"I cannot believe what I am hearing!!! Once I took the liberty to say in a couple of Forums: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510235 and subsequently: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510917 Are swingers the next group ripe for discrimination? And I was inundated with insults as if I had said something absolutely out of this world and now I see this tread!!! The problem with your posts is that you were acting discriminatory to swingers too, with your comments about older, fatter, and uglier people than you would let in to your club, and your quite frankly disgraceful remarks against TVs and TSs. Good job you didn't turn up, as Davina would have eaten you alive. Now try not to crow too much about peoples misfortune, and please try not to turn this into an opportunity to publicise your club. You weren't there." You took the words right out of my mouth. Frankly nobody has appointed this blatant opportunist and self publicist trying to muscle in on the happenings from the weekend as the spokesperson for swingers or the swinging lifestyle. If we had to have anyone, I would prefer someone more articulate, rational and inclusive... | |||
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"I cannot believe what I am hearing!!! Once I took the liberty to say in a couple of Forums: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510235 and subsequently: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510917 Are swingers the next group ripe for discrimination? And I was inundated with insults as if I had said something absolutely out of this world and now I see this tread!!! The problem with your posts is that you were acting discriminatory to swingers too, with your comments about older, fatter, and uglier people than you would let in to your club, and your quite frankly disgraceful remarks against TVs and TSs. Good job you didn't turn up, as Davina would have eaten you alive. Now try not to crow too much about peoples misfortune, and please try not to turn this into an opportunity to publicise your club. You weren't there. You took the words right out of my mouth. Frankly nobody has appointed this blatant opportunist and self publicist trying to muscle in on the happenings from the weekend as the spokesperson for swingers or the swinging lifestyle. If we had to have anyone, I would prefer someone more articulate, rational and inclusive..." And how does you contructive criticism help the discrimination on swingers? Enlighten me if you please! | |||
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"I cannot believe what I am hearing!!! Once I took the liberty to say in a couple of Forums: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510235 and subsequently: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510917 Are swingers the next group ripe for discrimination? And I was inundated with insults as if I had said something absolutely out of this world and now I see this tread!!! The problem with your posts is that you were acting discriminatory to swingers too, with your comments about older, fatter, and uglier people than you would let in to your club, and your quite frankly disgraceful remarks against TVs and TSs. Good job you didn't turn up, as Davina would have eaten you alive. Now try not to crow too much about peoples misfortune, and please try not to turn this into an opportunity to publicise your club. You weren't there." Ok and this was a festival where EVERYONE was welcome and yet some people are worried to have been appeared on the papers for fear of being recognised? You tell me WHY should adults in a Democratic Country be concerned and be frightened to get involved in consensual sexual activities with other like minded people? Do you have a clear answer to this? Well I would like to hear it!!! | |||
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"Ok pixilate the photos but also remove reference to me and my physical difference...... aaarrrghhhhhh . I was there as a human being like all of you and not some novelty gimic - Sadly one woman called Sam thought it would be a novelty to have fun with me - I soon put her in her place!! Now if I was black and that Antonella Lazzera had referred to me as 'Chris the Nigger' then there would be hell to pay but as usual its seen ok to poke fun at people who are physically different. I am currrently seeking ways an means of getting that womans career dealt with harshly. Bitch from stinking hell !! Oh and by the way - please stop blaming the organisers and security ..... there was no way this woman and her mate Nigel would have been spotted as unusual BUT if they had then they would have been minced meat!!! " Totally agree with you! She has discriminated you at the end of the day! They botg should be ashamed of themselves for what they have done!!! Wife x | |||
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"I cannot believe what I am hearing!!! Once I took the liberty to say in a couple of Forums: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510235 and subsequently: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510917 Are swingers the next group ripe for discrimination? And I was inundated with insults as if I had said something absolutely out of this world and now I see this tread!!! The problem with your posts is that you were acting discriminatory to swingers too, with your comments about older, fatter, and uglier people than you would let in to your club, and your quite frankly disgraceful remarks against TVs and TSs. Good job you didn't turn up, as Davina would have eaten you alive. Now try not to crow too much about peoples misfortune, and please try not to turn this into an opportunity to publicise your club. You weren't there. Ok and this was a festival where EVERYONE was welcome and yet some people are worried to have been appeared on the papers for fear of being recognised? You tell me WHY should adults in a Democratic Country be concerned and be frightened to get involved in consensual sexual activities with other like minded people? Do you have a clear answer to this? Well I would like to hear it!!!" They shouldn't. I wasn't disagreeing with that. I was disagreeing with your take on your original posts, where you discriminated against other swingers, being a rallying call for us to follow. I know you have the empathy of a charging silverback, and are champing at the bit to get your face and club in the tabloids, but maybe just slow down and think a bit. | |||
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"I cannot believe what I am hearing!!! Once I took the liberty to say in a couple of Forums: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510235 and subsequently: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510917 Are swingers the next group ripe for discrimination? And I was inundated with insults as if I had said something absolutely out of this world and now I see this tread!!! The problem with your posts is that you were acting discriminatory to swingers too, with your comments about older, fatter, and uglier people than you would let in to your club, and your quite frankly disgraceful remarks against TVs and TSs. Good job you didn't turn up, as Davina would have eaten you alive. Now try not to crow too much about peoples misfortune, and please try not to turn this into an opportunity to publicise your club. You weren't there. Ok and this was a festival where EVERYONE was welcome and yet some people are worried to have been appeared on the papers for fear of being recognised? You tell me WHY should adults in a Democratic Country be concerned and be frightened to get involved in consensual sexual activities with other like minded people? Do you have a clear answer to this? Well I would like to hear it!!!" NOTE: We did NOT attend Swingfields I agree with you 100%, but unfortunately British society is not that enlightened and there are plenty of employers out there who will happily dismiss someone over what they do in their private lives. And employers are savvy. They won't openly do it for this, but they will find some other excuse and get rid of you. Why do you think most companies have such large HR departments? It's NOT to help the employees, I can tell you that... | |||
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"Hi there we were not at swingfields but are outraged at the actions of these tabloids. We are boycotting these papers its only a small thing but if everyone stops buying these tabloid rags it will hit them where it hurts " Every LFC supporter has boycotted 'The Scum' for over 2 decades as well as most Merseysiders and it makes no difference whatsoever I'm afraid xx | |||
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"I cannot believe what I am hearing!!! Once I took the liberty to say in a couple of Forums: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510235 and subsequently: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510917 Are swingers the next group ripe for discrimination? And I was inundated with insults as if I had said something absolutely out of this world and now I see this tread!!! The problem with your posts is that you were acting discriminatory to swingers too, with your comments about older, fatter, and uglier people than you would let in to your club, and your quite frankly disgraceful remarks against TVs and TSs. Good job you didn't turn up, as Davina would have eaten you alive. Now try not to crow too much about peoples misfortune, and please try not to turn this into an opportunity to publicise your club. You weren't there. Ok and this was a festival where EVERYONE was welcome and yet some people are worried to have been appeared on the papers for fear of being recognised? You tell me WHY should adults in a Democratic Country be concerned and be frightened to get involved in consensual sexual activities with other like minded people? Do you have a clear answer to this? Well I would like to hear it!!! NOTE: We did NOT attend Swingfields I agree with you 100%, but unfortunately British society is not that enlightened and there are plenty of employers out there who will happily dismiss someone over what they do in their private lives. And employers are savvy. They won't openly do it for this, but they will find some other excuse and get rid of you. Why do you think most companies have such large HR departments? It's NOT to help the employees, I can tell you that..." FYI a venue you attend has closer ties to the press than you realise | |||
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"I cannot believe what I am hearing!!! Once I took the liberty to say in a couple of Forums: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510235 and subsequently: https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/510917 Are swingers the next group ripe for discrimination? And I was inundated with insults as if I had said something absolutely out of this world and now I see this tread!!! The problem with your posts is that you were acting discriminatory to swingers too, with your comments about older, fatter, and uglier people than you would let in to your club, and your quite frankly disgraceful remarks against TVs and TSs. Good job you didn't turn up, as Davina would have eaten you alive. Now try not to crow too much about peoples misfortune, and please try not to turn this into an opportunity to publicise your club. You weren't there. You took the words right out of my mouth. Frankly nobody has appointed this blatant opportunist and self publicist trying to muscle in on the happenings from the weekend as the spokesperson for swingers or the swinging lifestyle. If we had to have anyone, I would prefer someone more articulate, rational and inclusive... And how does you contructive criticism help the discrimination on swingers? Enlighten me if you please!" I'm uninterested in your particular obsession with your perception of discrimination or being lumped in with a community that includes you. I'd rather help and support my friends individually who have been exposed. We were very close to being exposed ourselves. I don't believe that you give two shits about anyone but yourself frankly and are just using this to push your own particular agenda. Is that enlightening enough for you? | |||
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"Well seems like solidarity is out the window " What ever gave you the impression it was ever there in the first place! | |||
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"Anyway back on topic. If you go and read the article online, you will no longer find it there. We have also received no reply from the Editor of the Sun, even though he did say that he would email us today. Lets stay together on this people, it's only because we have done so far that we have managed to get this article pulled. Unfortunately can't do anything about the hard copy of the newspaper. " The sun has pulled the article but the mirror and mail are still running it. All that's happened is the press have now got the hump and will take more interest in the scene in general. They are like a dog with a bone.. | |||
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"Unfortunately we can all be found, seen, pictured, filmed without any of us knowing...this is what technology does... whilst I wouldn't want our faces pictured in the press this is something that can and has happened...mr was in the papers too although not recognisable...maybe sf17 should be totally naked with everything paid for on a pre paid card...that way nothing can be sneaked in !!!! how's that for an idea" You really wouldn't want to see me naked - and neither would I!! Saturday was the 1st time I ever got my boobs out in public so I could be roped. JG x | |||
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"Unfortunately we can all be found, seen, pictured, filmed without any of us knowing...this is what technology does... whilst I wouldn't want our faces pictured in the press this is something that can and has happened...mr was in the papers too although not recognisable...maybe sf17 should be totally naked with everything paid for on a pre paid card...that way nothing can be sneaked in !!!! how's that for an idea You really wouldn't want to see me naked - and neither would I!! Saturday was the 1st time I ever got my boobs out in public so I could be roped. JG x" And lovely boobs they were | |||
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"We have now received an Email from the Editor of The Sun. We will not be publishing his reply on here for the foreseeable future. We hope you will all understand as to our reasons why as this thread is being closely monitored by the press. " Yes I was going to suggest that but as I could not message you privately (my apologies for doing so in public) I wanted to express you my greatest admiration for doing something very positive to the scene. My hope is that one day we will be able to form a bond as strong as the Gay Scene and the Fetish Scene to be Proud to be Swingers and be respected as anothes sexual minority BUT we have to stick together while providing "choices" within the scene from a relatively higher end to dogging it's whatever it turns you on. Yes to LGBTS with the 'S' ending to express a plural and the final and at long last "S" for SWINGERS | |||
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"Yes to LGBTS with the 'S' ending to express a plural and the final and at long last "S" for SWINGERS " Do you remember what the T in LGBT stands for? | |||
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"Yes to LGBTS with the 'S' ending to express a plural and the final and at long last "S" for SWINGERS Do you remember what the T in LGBT stands for?" Oh give me a break will you? You and I haver an obvious communication problem BUT bear in mind that 95% of the people will read the Forum yet without participating and they will understand what I mean. The time in which we will all form a strong bond as SWINGERS PRIDE it's the time we will bring an end to all this nonsense! This is the 21st Century, British people are free to vote OUT of the EC and yet it seems to me they are still in the Victorian Age with sexual related issues! IT'S TIME TO STOP ALL THIS BE PROUD TO BEA SWINGER THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH IT IF YOU WANT TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS!!!! | |||
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"Yes to LGBTS with the 'S' ending to express a plural and the final and at long last "S" for SWINGERS Do you remember what the T in LGBT stands for? Oh give me a break will you? You and I haver an obvious communication problem BUT bear in mind that 95% of the people will read the Forum yet without participating and they will understand what I mean. The time in which we will all form a strong bond as SWINGERS PRIDE it's the time we will bring an end to all this nonsense! This is the 21st Century, British people are free to vote OUT of the EC and yet it seems to me they are still in the Victorian Age with sexual related issues! IT'S TIME TO STOP ALL THIS BE PROUD TO BEA SWINGER THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH IT IF YOU WANT TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS!!!! " I was in those photos, because I was there. You wanted to get the publicity from being a sponsor, but you didn't turn up. Other sponsors did. You have shown constant disdain for TVs, TSs, CDs, and swingers of less than model proportions, and swingers over some arbitrary age that I still haven't worked out. You have shown absolutely no interest in the feelings of the people affected by the Sun until it gave you a chance to publicise your own club. I have complained to IPSO, I will support the organisers, and I WILL be back at SF17 if it is run. I won't expect to see you there. We don't need you. | |||
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"Yes to LGBTS with the 'S' ending to express a plural and the final and at long last "S" for SWINGERS Do you remember what the T in LGBT stands for? Oh give me a break will you? You and I haver an obvious communication problem BUT bear in mind that 95% of the people will read the Forum yet without participating and they will understand what I mean. The time in which we will all form a strong bond as SWINGERS PRIDE it's the time we will bring an end to all this nonsense! This is the 21st Century, British people are free to vote OUT of the EC and yet it seems to me they are still in the Victorian Age with sexual related issues! IT'S TIME TO STOP ALL THIS BE PROUD TO BEA SWINGER THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH IT IF YOU WANT TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS!!!! " We find it interesting that you seem to want be the spokes person for all those who were there and those that had pictures published. We had not heard of you before today and having read your profile where you actually state that you discriminate against OO (overly obese) and BBWs we don't feel that what you have to say carries any credibility. We will give our full support to those thAt were there, those that had their pictures taken, of which we were one and we will continue to support the Swingfields organisers. We would suggest you stick to running your party's. | |||
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"It's a swing off! Surely uniting against the common enemy would be the priority, differences aside....?!" The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. | |||
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