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"Some clubs let the wrong sort of men in" What would you class as the wrong sort of men? | |||
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"Have been on both sides of the fence as couple and single....personally its the lurkers and rude guys that ruin it (pretty much the same on here). Those that stay social and chatty i find tend to get on well." Socialising and chatting works for me | |||
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"It depends on the club and the atmosphere on the night. Being a single male, I am 100% polite and don't force the situation to get something from a female or couple. I have learnt over the years that just because I have a cock doesn't mean that every female in the room is going to want it. " Too true, there are some bad examples that spoil it for the rest of us. | |||
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"Shoe on the other foot..Why do women have to get pissed to play in these dens of daborchary its not attractive.." Talking for Frisky... Frisky doesn't get many chances to drink, so a night out is one of those times, however if she gets pissed she will stop playing and go out for fresh air. At this point she will either stick to water or we will go home. .. I must add, generally the only time she gets pissed is if I am pouring her drinks as I end up pouring her doubles... She knows that d*unk people aren't attractive and also in places where there are strangers it's wise to become vulnerable... | |||
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"Shoe on the other foot..Why do women have to get pissed to play in these dens of daborchary its not attractive.. Talking for Frisky... Frisky doesn't get many chances to drink, so a night out is one of those times, however if she gets pissed she will stop playing and go out for fresh air. At this point she will either stick to water or we will go home. .. I must add, generally the only time she gets pissed is if I am pouring her drinks as I end up pouring her doubles... She knows that d*unk people aren't attractive and also in places where there are strangers it's wise to become vulnerable..." I'd never touch a d*unk woman. Anything could happen. You could end up being nicked for assault or rape. | |||
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"Shoe on the other foot..Why do women have to get pissed to play in these dens of daborchary its not attractive.. Talking for Frisky... Frisky doesn't get many chances to drink, so a night out is one of those times, however if she gets pissed she will stop playing and go out for fresh air. At this point she will either stick to water or we will go home. .. I must add, generally the only time she gets pissed is if I am pouring her drinks as I end up pouring her doubles... She knows that d*unk people aren't attractive and also in places where there are strangers it's wise to become vulnerable... I'd never touch a d*unk woman. Anything could happen. You could end up being nicked for assault or rape." I don't blame you. Like I said Frisky will stop playing if she feels d*unk. She wants to be in control when she plays... | |||
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"It depends on the club and the atmosphere on the night. Being a single male, I am 100% polite and don't force the situation to get something from a female or couple. I have learnt over the years that just because I have a cock doesn't mean that every female in the room is going to want it. " | |||
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"Shoe on the other foot..Why do women have to get pissed to play in these dens of daborchary its not attractive.." I don't drink alcohol if I'm in a club and playing nor do I preload. I want to be completely conscious and in control of all my decisions. Having said that if I'm going to a social with no plans to play then alcohol has been known to pass my lips... | |||
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"From what I have seen most guys in clubs act just like you descibe Dave & Ellie. If you want a guy to join you in a room etc, Just ask. We are all there for the same reasons. Some (crazy men) may even turn you down. But that doesn't mean anything other than you weren't their cup of tea. The same if you turn a guy down. I personally like to chat in the social areas first and you can discuss your wants and limits before moving on. I sometimes wonder just how true some reviewers are. You sometimes see single women or couples complaining of a guy masturbating in an open play area. Lets be fair, If you don't want to see willys or pussys you shouldn't be in a place like a swingers clubs. " | |||
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"Shoe on the other foot..Why do women have to get pissed to play in these dens of daborchary its not attractive.." Don't you mean Some women, or even some people? My wife doesn't drink, and I will often just have soft drinks. | |||
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"As a single guy I normally turn up at a club and head for the bar. Normally start with 3 or 4 shorts to get my courage up then start aimlessly following any attractive woman around the venue until I spot an even more attractive women, occasionally making a detour back to the bar to sink a little more courage. As the night goes on the following becomes more of a staggering and the 'attractive women' becomes 'any old bint'. Occasionally, while holding back a desire to vomit up the false courage I've d*unk, I'll stagger into a private room and demand that my magnificence is appreciated. I never remember the next day if I was successful or not. Works for me but I'm open to any suggestions as to how I could improve my technique. " How can you improve on perfection?! Keep it up. | |||
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"We have had some great nights with single guys and in most clubs find that the guys are respectful. Unfortunately though, I think that for some clubs, single guys are just a "Cash Cow". The more you can get in the more money they will make. It is fairly common for there to be four - six single guys per couple in some places. Personally, baring in mind "most" couples are looking for ladies & couples. I think that two couples per single guy is a more sensible ratio. Cal" I have been to nights when it has been ratioed and I have felt like a spare part The chances are maybe 1 in 4 would be looking for a single guy, I prferd when the club has opened up but been reasonable. (By the way this is not my usual club) | |||
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"Its the game ....we have to be charming flattering and endevor to whooyou I wear a nice fragrance and subtle deodorant it normally works lol " hey man you've got it Sussed | |||
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"We find most males to be well behaved but we wouldn't go to a club without single males as i do like a few lol x" | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board " Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night (plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night (plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. " there are an awful lot of people that wouldnt go to clubs if single guys werent allowed. | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night (plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. there are an awful lot of people that wouldnt go to clubs if single guys werent allowed. " Sorry don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to suggest that single men shouldn't be in clubs. Im just saying that I disagree with the argument that they fund it, or subsidise it for everyone else. | |||
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"As a single guy I normally turn up at a club and head for the bar. Normally start with 3 or 4 shorts to get my courage up then start aimlessly following any attractive woman around the venue until I spot an even more attractive women, occasionally making a detour back to the bar to sink a little more courage. As the night goes on the following becomes more of a staggering and the 'attractive women' becomes 'any old bint'. Occasionally, while holding back a desire to vomit up the false courage I've d*unk, I'll stagger into a private room and demand that my magnificence is appreciated. I never remember the next day if I was successful or not. Works for me but I'm open to any suggestions as to how I could improve my technique. How can you improve on perfection?! Keep it up. " Wait till you see me in action. You'll be totally gob -smacked. | |||
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"there's a club just up the road from me , ive never actually been in purely because I fill abit nervous about going , I'm a 26 year old single male and ive heard that clubs tend to be full of older men so don't want to walk in and fill out of place your quite ready then lol its dog eat dog lol no room for nervousness in these places " | |||
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"A good ratio would be two males to each female; and couples already come with a male; so single guys are definately needed" On the other foot how about FMF PERFECT EVERY BODIES HAPPY lol | |||
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"A good ratio would be two males to each female; and couples already come with a male; so single guys are definately needed On the other foot how about FMF PERFECT EVERY BODIES HAPPY lol " I guess everyone has a right to dream on | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night (plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. " clubs in the London area are more expensive and its the weekdays when the guy attendance makes the difference | |||
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"A good ratio would be two males to each female; and couples already come with a male; so single guys are definately needed On the other foot how about FMF PERFECT EVERY BODIES HAPPY lol I guess everyone has a right to dream on " This is the problem in this world | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night (plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. clubs in the London area are more expensive and its the weekdays when the guy attendance makes the difference " op4f on the third Thursday is £10 for single men and £10 for couples | |||
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"Why do some clubs charge ridiculous prices for single males, I went to one club were they wanted to charge a single guy £50" Dunno; did you ask the owners? | |||
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"What £50 only £50 thats cheap mate! Now when I were a lad and a single lad at that we had to pay... " ..... a shilling | |||
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"Facilities! we are paying to use the facilities!!!! Jacuzzi sauna hairdryer toilets etc etc etc " maybe the swimming pool lol I tend to go when the places have a cost effective sessions so thriftyness is the way lol | |||
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"Why do some clubs charge ridiculous prices for single males, I went to one club were they wanted to charge a single guy £50" Supply and demand mate. Just be thankful they let you in as a single bloke. | |||
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"In a dress up club I would wear black jeans / trousers and I mean smart jeans m, back shirt, full length with collar and shoes Not saying that I wouldn't wear dark smart navy jeans a blazer type jacket and a clean smart white t shirt with shoes Both look smart and would get me in to a number of clubs In dress down i tend to wear dark coloured boxers unless on a party night then it's funny boxers " From our point of view, that is making an effort. I will wear smart jeans, shirt and shoes. I'm talking about the guys that look like they have been to B&Q, done a few odd jobs then spent the afternoon in the pub and then gone on to a club... | |||
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"A good ratio would be two males to each female; and couples already come with a male; so single guys are definately needed" No, two females to each male would be much better, and 3 women to each man on a Saturday! | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night (plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. clubs in the London area are more expensive and its the weekdays when the guy attendance makes the difference " So there aren't enough women or couples to support the business during the week, so instead its full of single guys, who are there to play with the couples and single women who aren't there in the first place! It all seems a bit Catch 22 to me. | |||
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"A good ratio would be two males to each female; and couples already come with a male; so single guys are definately needed No, two females to each male would be much better, and 3 women to each man on a Saturday! " Joking aside, two women to each man is pretty much the ratio on Saturday nights in clubs | |||
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"A good ratio would be two males to each female; and couples already come with a male; so single guys are definately needed No, two females to each male would be much better, and 3 women to each man on a Saturday! " | |||
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"Women get into adfabs for £ 10 but men have to pay anything up to £75 the Heathrow club is nearest to me I find that price difference ridiculous but hey maybe its just me " The maximum that men have to pay is £60 (as opposed to £10 for women) unless they are really, really, really ugly; then it could be £75 | |||
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"We have seen both sides of this, really nice pleasant guys and predatory packs of intimidating arseholes, it depends on the moment. Chams alleged bi night has been terrible recently, kitty told them they were like a pack of jackels on Monday, but they were mute and didn't seem to comprehend what she was saying ." Agreed. There are far too many single males on bi nights at Chams now. Worse still was that the majority were desperadoes following the couples round like lost puppies. I chased three out of the couples room on separate occasions - despite the sign saying strictly couples only. It was so bad last time we decided that we wouldn't go again on a Monday. Hoping Chams management limit ita bit more as Monday's were great not so long ago | |||
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"We have seen both sides of this, really nice pleasant guys and predatory packs of intimidating arseholes, it depends on the moment. Chams alleged bi night has been terrible recently, kitty told them they were like a pack of jackels on Monday, but they were mute and didn't seem to comprehend what she was saying . Agreed. There are far too many single males on bi nights at Chams now. Worse still was that the majority were desperadoes following the couples round like lost puppies. I chased three out of the couples room on separate occasions - despite the sign saying strictly couples only. It was so bad last time we decided that we wouldn't go again on a Monday. Hoping Chams management limit ita bit more as Monday's were great not so long ago" Erm, surely the *point* of bi night at Chams is for men to find other men to have sex with? If you start closing it off to male/female couples I shouldn't imagine it would really be much of a bi night anymore. | |||
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"We have seen both sides of this, really nice pleasant guys and predatory packs of intimidating arseholes, it depends on the moment. Chams alleged bi night has been terrible recently, kitty told them they were like a pack of jackels on Monday, but they were mute and didn't seem to comprehend what she was saying . Agreed. There are far too many single males on bi nights at Chams now. Worse still was that the majority were desperadoes following the couples round like lost puppies. I chased three out of the couples room on separate occasions - despite the sign saying strictly couples only. It was so bad last time we decided that we wouldn't go again on a Monday. Hoping Chams management limit ita bit more as Monday's were great not so long ago Erm, surely the *point* of bi night at Chams is for men to find other men to have sex with? If you start closing it off to male/female couples I shouldn't imagine it would really be much of a bi night anymore." Limit it a bit more. Say 20 instead of 50-60 | |||
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"We have seen both sides of this, really nice pleasant guys and predatory packs of intimidating arseholes, it depends on the moment. Chams alleged bi night has been terrible recently, kitty told them they were like a pack of jackels on Monday, but they were mute and didn't seem to comprehend what she was saying . Agreed. There are far too many single males on bi nights at Chams now. Worse still was that the majority were desperadoes following the couples round like lost puppies. I chased three out of the couples room on separate occasions - despite the sign saying strictly couples only. It was so bad last time we decided that we wouldn't go again on a Monday. Hoping Chams management limit ita bit more as Monday's were great not so long ago Erm, surely the *point* of bi night at Chams is for men to find other men to have sex with? If you start closing it off to male/female couples I shouldn't imagine it would really be much of a bi night anymore. Limit it a bit more. Say 20 instead of 50-60" But then there's less men having sex... Personally if I go to a bi night, I want to be surrounded on all sides by men fucking each other. Anyway, since the male half of you guys is straight, it's not like there's much point in you going anyway. Why are you moaning about it? | |||
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"We have seen both sides of this, really nice pleasant guys and predatory packs of intimidating arseholes, it depends on the moment. Chams alleged bi night has been terrible recently, kitty told them they were like a pack of jackels on Monday, but they were mute and didn't seem to comprehend what she was saying . Agreed. There are far too many single males on bi nights at Chams now. Worse still was that the majority were desperadoes following the couples round like lost puppies. I chased three out of the couples room on separate occasions - despite the sign saying strictly couples only. It was so bad last time we decided that we wouldn't go again on a Monday. Hoping Chams management limit ita bit more as Monday's were great not so long ago Erm, surely the *point* of bi night at Chams is for men to find other men to have sex with? If you start closing it off to male/female couples I shouldn't imagine it would really be much of a bi night anymore. Limit it a bit more. Say 20 instead of 50-60 But then there's less men having sex... Personally if I go to a bi night, I want to be surrounded on all sides by men fucking each other. Anyway, since the male half of you guys is straight, it's not like there's much point in you going anyway. Why are you moaning about it?" In case you hadn't noticed, we are a bi couple . | |||
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"We have seen both sides of this, really nice pleasant guys and predatory packs of intimidating arseholes, it depends on the moment. Chams alleged bi night has been terrible recently, kitty told them they were like a pack of jackels on Monday, but they were mute and didn't seem to comprehend what she was saying . Agreed. There are far too many single males on bi nights at Chams now. Worse still was that the majority were desperadoes following the couples round like lost puppies. I chased three out of the couples room on separate occasions - despite the sign saying strictly couples only. It was so bad last time we decided that we wouldn't go again on a Monday. Hoping Chams management limit ita bit more as Monday's were great not so long ago Erm, surely the *point* of bi night at Chams is for men to find other men to have sex with? If you start closing it off to male/female couples I shouldn't imagine it would really be much of a bi night anymore. Limit it a bit more. Say 20 instead of 50-60 But then there's less men having sex... Personally if I go to a bi night, I want to be surrounded on all sides by men fucking each other. Anyway, since the male half of you guys is straight, it's not like there's much point in you going anyway. Why are you moaning about it? In case you hadn't noticed, we are a bi couple ." When I checked earlier, it said the taller of the two of you were straight. Must have been my mistake. | |||
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"We attended a club on Friday and had an amazing time. We found the single men to be courteous and appreciative of personal space. However we looked at reviews for last night and saw it sounded the complete opposite. This was weird for us to see such a stark contrast. The question to you all including the males is regarding etiquette involving males in clubs. How do you find it works with regards inviting single male play. And does it ever get too much? Also what do you consider a good ratio of males in a club with couples and single fems?" I use a club in Bournemouth, there is a core group of us there who enjoy watching, and taking part but we wait until asked, when the lady wants a break or less guys, we do ask asked. The club has had some bad write ups too but in all honesty, we are generally compliant to the ladies wishes though there are one or two who will always push the boundaries. | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night (plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. there are an awful lot of people that wouldnt go to clubs if single guys werent allowed. " I deffo wouldn't I love my single guys mmmmm | |||
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"Single men and clubs omg they pay for them they should have a free rain and a better image big up single men or set pricing evenly across the board Well I am no expert in economics, let alone running a club. But if you take the Vanilla Alternative as an example, its open on a Friday and Saturday night i(plus special events, MILF club, festival, NYE etc.). On a Saturday there are no single men, so they aren't subsidising the club then. On a Friday men are allowed in, but the numbers are limited to 10, so its not packed with them. Friday night prices: F £10, MF £35, M £40 Saturday night prices: F £15, MF £45 So this whole idea of "there wouldn't be clubs without single men paying for them" argument doesn't seem to hold much water. But I'm sure the variety ofclubs have different business models. there are an awful lot of people that wouldnt go to clubs if single guys werent allowed. I deffo wouldn't I love my single guys mmmmm " love them in what way ? | |||
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