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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C" Most clubs are open to make money, they get that money from Single Guys, the only club I know that are very selective on who they admit are Townhouse, they even have a special social/meet for these guys before the club opens just to vet them, but any system is fallible and you always get the wrong ones slipping through the net | |||
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"When I was working, the people who caused us the most issues and would therefore warrant a pre application vetting process are couples" Yeah i bet there are some nightmare couples too. Lol | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs?" I rest my case lol ... | |||
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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C" just go on the nights where its couples only. that's the simple solution instead of trying to tarnish single men. from what i hear the couples are the ones dick teasing in the clubs and then turn men away for the thrill. | |||
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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C just go on the nights where its couples only. that's the simple solution instead of trying to tarnish single men. from what i hear the couples are the ones dick teasing in the clubs and then turn men away for the thrill. " Dick teasing?? Lol did you really put that lol Why should we stay clear of a night out just because some men cant behave like normal adults lol. Like i stated we have never had an issue ...but others have. And had there night ruined...is that fair?? | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs? I rest my case lol ..." I've never been to a sex club - but feel free to address the actual points made? | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs? I rest my case lol ... I've never been to a sex club - but feel free to address the actual points made? " Sex club or spunk club ... Im confussed lol. Single men dont "support" your local club...they go with a view to meeting like minded people. Some men dont know how to act durring there time at a sex club...hense my opening questions. | |||
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"I am absolutely astounded at the lack of etiquette sometimes - good manners is not difficult surely????? If we chose not to play with a single man we are not dick teasing - just looking for something different to what they are offering. Some club visits have been great - in fact the majority of our experiences have been very positive - otherwise we wouldn't keep visiting the clubs! Recently we did have a very uncomfortable club experience- partly our fault because we should have been more outspoken right from the start when a crowd of blokes came too near us - but surely they also should have acted more considerately? Anyway, we won't let that happen again so we have learnt something valuable about that particular club. " I agree ...we have seen this...its so off pointing to couples... Manners cost nothing. | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs? I rest my case lol ... I've never been to a sex club - but feel free to address the actual points made? Sex club or spunk club ... Im confussed lol. Single men dont "support" your local club...they go with a view to meeting like minded people. Some men dont know how to act durring there time at a sex club...hense my opening questions. " Yeah so we prob agree on your main point! But they are the ones who keep the club going- if wasn't for them, would cost everyone else a lot more no? And let's face it, females don't like spending their own money - so if fems had to spend what guys currently do - wouldn't be long before we're living in a land with no sex/spunk clubs lol. Guess the cost and real live women is prob why they go a bit robotic inside - but yeah not my scene. | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs? I rest my case lol ... I've never been to a sex club - but feel free to address the actual points made? Sex club or spunk club ... Im confussed lol. Single men dont "support" your local club...they go with a view to meeting like minded people. Some men dont know how to act durring there time at a sex club...hense my opening questions. Yeah so we prob agree on your main point! But they are the ones who keep the club going- if wasn't for them, would cost everyone else a lot more no? And let's face it, females don't like spending their own money - so if fems had to spend what guys currently do - wouldn't be long before we're living in a land with no sex/spunk clubs lol. Guess the cost and real live women is prob why they go a bit robotic inside - but yeah not my scene. " Bit of a generalisation there I'd happily pay to go to a decent club if I went alone and not with my partner. | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs? I rest my case lol ... I've never been to a sex club - but feel free to address the actual points made? Sex club or spunk club ... Im confussed lol. Single men dont "support" your local club...they go with a view to meeting like minded people. Some men dont know how to act durring there time at a sex club...hense my opening questions. Yeah so we prob agree on your main point! But they are the ones who keep the club going- if wasn't for them, would cost everyone else a lot more no? And let's face it, females don't like spending their own money - so if fems had to spend what guys currently do - wouldn't be long before we're living in a land with no sex/spunk clubs lol. Guess the cost and real live women is prob why they go a bit robotic inside - but yeah not my scene. " I agree ...not your scene | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs? I rest my case lol ... I've never been to a sex club - but feel free to address the actual points made? Sex club or spunk club ... Im confussed lol. Single men dont "support" your local club...they go with a view to meeting like minded people. Some men dont know how to act durring there time at a sex club...hense my opening questions. Yeah so we prob agree on your main point! But they are the ones who keep the club going- if wasn't for them, would cost everyone else a lot more no? And let's face it, females don't like spending their own money - so if fems had to spend what guys currently do - wouldn't be long before we're living in a land with no sex/spunk clubs lol. Guess the cost and real live women is prob why they go a bit robotic inside - but yeah not my scene. " it sounds to me that u have never been to a club as you call it a sex/spunk club.They are swingers clubs for likeminded adults Single fems did not choose the pricing levels so it is not about them not wanting to pay the higher prices. The demand at clubs chose the prices.men pay the prices and still there are more single men not more single ladies.if clubs had more single ladies it would be equal pricing and turning them away like they do single men if too many | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs? I rest my case lol ... I've never been to a sex club - but feel free to address the actual points made? Sex club or spunk club ... Im confussed lol. Single men dont "support" your local club...they go with a view to meeting like minded people. Some men dont know how to act durring there time at a sex club...hense my opening questions. " Some couples don't know how to behave during their time at a sex club. Some women don't know how to behave during their time at a sex club. It's not just single men. | |||
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"On the one hand - it's single guys supporting your club- so leave them alone. On the other hand, it's hard enough going to a pub on your own - so anyone going to a sex club on their own is prob a bit strange. What else would you expect in spunk clubs?" Well for a start, a bit of respect | |||
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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C" I don't think single guys should be vetted unless single fems and couples are vetted too. They can cause trouble aswell. Many single guys often behave better than the couples and single fems ! | |||
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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C I don't think single guys should be vetted unless single fems and couples are vetted too. They can cause trouble aswell. Many single guys often behave better than the couples and single fems !" Ive never seen packs of couples or women bothering people lol.... Now i know there are bad couples and women too...but some single men seem to excel at losing there manners | |||
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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C" hey look try and be a little more sympathetic to the plight of the single male in a club because if they wernt there you wouldn't have one ,you can be critical when you pay an equal share of the entry fee and NO means NO just say it and mean it | |||
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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C hey look try and be a little more sympathetic to the plight of the single male in a club because if they wernt there you wouldn't have one ,you can be critical when you pay an equal share of the entry fee and NO means NO just say it and mean it " We can be critical when ever we like ...if single men find the price to high...well... | |||
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"So far we've visited 3 different clubs on about ten occasions. In each one, there have been nice, friendly single guys and pushy, creepy guys. In each one, there have been nice, friendly couples and pushy, creepy couples. There are people who are swingers and there are people who are jerks. The two groups are not mutually exclusive and they do overlap. " | |||
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"So far we've visited 3 different clubs on about ten occasions. In each one, there have been nice, friendly single guys and pushy, creepy guys. In each one, there have been nice, friendly couples and pushy, creepy couples. There are people who are swingers and there are people who are jerks. The two groups are not mutually exclusive and they do overlap. " | |||
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"The comments that single guys make about them keeping the clubs going because they pay a higher entrance fee is laughable at best and deluded at worst. Guys like that may be better visiting a brothel, for it seems they enter these clubs with that mindset." You mostly find the guys who say single guys keep clubs going preface their statement with ... "I haven't been to a club but ..." It's surprising that two of the best and most successful Dutch clubs are couples and single women only. They seem to manage without single guys and are always busy. As to the original post, the only person we have reported to the staff of a club in 15 years of weekly visits was a single woman. Single guys get much maligned and often it is hearsay. We have had to 'deal' with probably less than 10 single guys in the years we have been going to more than 40 clubs and probably a similar number of male halves of couples. The vast majority of guys in clubs behave decently, the few that don't are easily avoided. | |||
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"... What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C" The club staff could explain the club rules to everyone that attends, whether they are new to the club or not, and to all genders. As other posters have pointed out, some people think they are 'sex clubs' and don't understand the rules. I think it would also help to point out that if there are any issues then that person will be asked to leave. | |||
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"... The club staff could explain the club rules to everyone that attends, whether they are new to the club or not, and to all genders. " Townhouse is great for this! Everyone who's new gets the full tour and talk through of the rules. Some rooms are for couples only and singles can watch from the door unless they're invited in, vampire style. Anyone breaking these rules gets a pretty well instant ban. | |||
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"... The club staff could explain the club rules to everyone that attends, whether they are new to the club or not, and to all genders. Townhouse is great for this! Everyone who's new gets the full tour and talk through of the rules. Some rooms are for couples only and singles can watch from the door unless they're invited in, vampire style. Anyone breaking these rules gets a pretty well instant ban." Most of the clubs I've been to as a couple but I can't remember ever being told club rules. Only things like where the lockers were and about alcohol. | |||
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"Well thats put me off attending my first club as a single man." Why? | |||
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"Well thats put me off attending my first club as a single man. Why?" It would seem single men aren't that welcome in them, according to what's being written here. | |||
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"Well thats put me off attending my first club as a single man. Why? It would seem single men aren't that welcome in them, according to what's being written here." I can't see how you have come to that conclusion. Single men are welcome in clubs, especially polite, respectful and those that understand the lifestyle. Pushy, rude, obnoxious idiots that have no social skills are not. However that goes for single fems and couples as well. | |||
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"Well thats put me off attending my first club as a single man. Why? It would seem single men aren't that welcome in them, according to what's being written here. I can't see how you have come to that conclusion. Single men are welcome in clubs, especially polite, respectful and those that understand the lifestyle. Pushy, rude, obnoxious idiots that have no social skills are not. However that goes for single fems and couples as well." | |||
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"We have been to a few clubs this year and found some to be great and others really disappointing. During this year we have also attended nights where single men are allowed to attend clubs. We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Which for us is really off putting. We have never had any "bad" experiences regarding single men in clubs but having read lots of reviews on here. About couples having to really tell these guys there not interested..and then getting into arguments. Its sad that some men are like this. We visited a club in Blackpool a few months ago. And there was a nasty confrontation between a single male and a guy from a couple. There was no door staff at all and i had to go over and sort it out. What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C I don't think single guys should be vetted unless single fems and couples are vetted too. They can cause trouble aswell. Many single guys often behave better than the couples and single fems ! Ive never seen packs of couples or women bothering people lol.... Now i know there are bad couples and women too...but some single men seem to excel at losing there manners" I have been hassled by single fems and couples as much as i have by single guys. Hence my first comment ! | |||
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"Every time this subject matter comes up, my blood boils. There is a dedicated couples night in most clubs where single men can't attend. If you don't like single men, go on couples night. As a fair few people have said on the thread, couples or single women misbehave often! In my experience couples behave worse than single men, I've been grabbed by the male and female in couples before and they got really pissed off when I told them that i wasn't interested. Personally I think people need to give single men a break, it's no surprise they are concerned about attending clubs when they all get tarred with this brush. Again I'm going to say to you couples, YOU get a dedicated night, if you don't like single men, stick to couples night! It's not rocket science" Well said | |||
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"Every time this subject matter comes up, my blood boils. There is a dedicated couples night in most clubs where single men can't attend. If you don't like single men, go on couples night. As a fair few people have said on the thread, couples or single women misbehave often! In my experience couples behave worse than single men, I've been grabbed by the male and female in couples before and they got really pissed off when I told them that i wasn't interested. Personally I think people need to give single men a break, it's no surprise they are concerned about attending clubs when they all get tarred with this brush. Again I'm going to say to you couples, YOU get a dedicated night, if you don't like single men, stick to couples night! It's not rocket science Well said " Do you know how many "couples" show up where there not actully a couple and the guy wonders off! We have seen this countless times. | |||
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"Im not saying all single men are bad or behave badly..as i stated we never had a problem. But reading a lot of reviews in the club section. Showed that single men were a bit issue being rude or just generally following couples around... " you seem to be putting all the bad things down to the single men... in most of the times i have been to clubs... most of the problems have been down to couples.... be that the man of the couple... or the woman... or both being d*unk!!!! so when you want to just vet the single guys..... why are we not vetting couples or heaven forbid single women to the same extent? | |||
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"Well thats put me off attending my first club as a single man. Why? It would seem single men aren't that welcome in them, according to what's being written here." Why would you allow the views of a tiny portion of the Fab membership to dictate what YOU wish to do? I won't go to a club on couples only nights, or go to couples only clubs, because I go to play with men. I don't even mind the 'man-train' that sometimes occurs - I feel like I'm in a Benny Hill sketch. There are a considerable amount of people who go to clubs who are not on Fab, so you are not getting the whole story with regards to club attitude s toward single men. | |||
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"why are we not vetting couples or heaven forbid single women to the same extent? " I certainly need a good vetting from time to time. | |||
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"I see what is it, it is a typical generalisation that men walk around and follow couples lol." Not at all ...like we said some men act normal... Its just the packs of desperate men are very off puting to some | |||
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"I see what is it, it is a typical generalisation that men walk around and follow couples lol. Not at all ...like we said some men act normal... Its just the packs of desperate men are very off puting to some " Go on couples night then | |||
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"I see what is it, it is a typical generalisation that men walk around and follow couples lol. Not at all ...like we said some men act normal... Its just the packs of desperate men are very off puting to some " I see yes, so some do it some don't. | |||
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"I see what is it, it is a typical generalisation that men walk around and follow couples lol. Not at all ...like we said some men act normal... Its just the packs of desperate men are very off puting to some Go on couples night then " I don't normally go as its abit expensive, but yeah I know what you mean. | |||
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"I see what is it, it is a typical generalisation that men walk around and follow couples lol. Not at all ...like we said some men act normal... Its just the packs of desperate men are very off puting to some Go on couples night then " We have attended clubs on both mixed nights and couples night's and found that the single guys have been well behaved and not too pushy, they engage in conversation and generally show an interest, on the other hand couples nights have tended to have cliques of regulars that will hardly engage others apart from their immediate circle especially newbies who may be nervous! | |||
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"I see what is it, it is a typical generalisation that men walk around and follow couples lol. Not at all ...like we said some men act normal... Its just the packs of desperate men are very off puting to some Go on couples night then We have attended clubs on both mixed nights and couples night's and found that the single guys have been well behaved and not too pushy, they engage in conversation and generally show an interest, on the other hand couples nights have tended to have cliques of regulars that will hardly engage others apart from their immediate circle especially newbies who may be nervous!" That's my point, couples bitch about single men all the time but usually they are the ones that misbehave | |||
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"I see what is it, it is a typical generalisation that men walk around and follow couples lol. Not at all ...like we said some men act normal... Its just the packs of desperate men are very off puting to some Go on couples night then We have attended clubs on both mixed nights and couples night's and found that the single guys have been well behaved and not too pushy, they engage in conversation and generally show an interest, on the other hand couples nights have tended to have cliques of regulars that will hardly engage others apart from their immediate circle especially newbies who may be nervous! That's my point, couples bitch about single men all the time but usually they are the ones that misbehave " | |||
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"Every time this subject matter comes up, my blood boils. There is a dedicated couples night in most clubs where single men can't attend. If you don't like single men, go on couples night. As a fair few people have said on the thread, couples or single women misbehave often! In my experience couples behave worse than single men, I've been grabbed by the male and female in couples before and they got really pissed off when I told them that i wasn't interested. Personally I think people need to give single men a break, it's no surprise they are concerned about attending clubs when they all get tarred with this brush. Again I'm going to say to you couples, YOU get a dedicated night, if you don't like single men, stick to couples night! It's not rocket science Well said Do you know how many "couples" show up where there not actully a couple and the guy wonders off! We have seen this countless times. " I am well aware of that | |||
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"Im not saying all single men are bad or behave badly..as i stated we never had a problem. But reading a lot of reviews in the club section. Showed that single men were a bit issue being rude or just generally following couples around... you seem to be putting all the bad things down to the single men... in most of the times i have been to clubs... most of the problems have been down to couples.... be that the man of the couple... or the woman... or both being d*unk!!!! so when you want to just vet the single guys..... why are we not vetting couples or heaven forbid single women to the same extent? " | |||
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"Every time this subject matter comes up, my blood boils. There is a dedicated couples night in most clubs where single men can't attend. If you don't like single men, go on couples night. As a fair few people have said on the thread, couples or single women misbehave often! In my experience couples behave worse than single men, I've been grabbed by the male and female in couples before and they got really pissed off when I told them that i wasn't interested. Personally I think people need to give single men a break, it's no surprise they are concerned about attending clubs when they all get tarred with this brush. Again I'm going to say to you couples, YOU get a dedicated night, if you don't like single men, stick to couples night! It's not rocket science Well said Do you know how many "couples" show up where there not actully a couple and the guy wonders off! We have seen this countless times. I am well aware of that " So then sticking to couples and single female nights wouldnt help would it. | |||
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"We like clubs. We think some of them could be improved. We don't want to stop going. Doesn't it seem like a forum would be a good place to sensibly try and address the issues? Seems like the collective experience could be put to good use? Instead it seems like a constant round of 'it's not all .....' Or 'well .... Are just as bad in my view'. For most of us, clubs are something of a symbiotic thing. Couples often want single guys around. Some couples want other couples to feel comfortable to attend. Single guys will want single women and couples in attendance. That's even before you get onto the more subtle preferences and sub groups. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. Surely the answer is to improve it? Not to tell people to stay out of the kitchen if they can't stand the heat from rude or obnoxious people. Just as it's important for people who are hoping for something, to understand that others will be there for their own needs to be fulfilled. Having your own limits and sticking to them is not the same as being elitist and selfish. Expecting that others will help fulfil your needs and fantasies surely must come with a willingness to trade something. Yet so often we see and hear people thinking that they are doing another group a favour. I wonder if it's a mindset like that we should be working to change? Bx" the one thing i would absolutely agree with is that poor behaviour is poor behaviour... the one thing that seems to have been forgotten is that poor behaviour isn't just the domain of one group of people... and yet it is single guys who get tarred with this, whereas in my 10 years ish of going to clubs... it is as likely to actually come from couples.... but that doesn't suit the narrative of bashing the one group... again guys get accused of going round in packs... and yes i have seen it happen..... I have also seen groups of couples going around in packs.... and actually they tend to be larger... and noiser... and you can hear giggling and laughing when they watch ones okay apparently... the other isn't..... an arse is an arse is an arse.... I think that some couples believe they are bulletproof because they come as a couple, and get away with far more than a single couple because they come as a couple..... | |||
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"We like clubs. We think some of them could be improved. We don't want to stop going. Doesn't it seem like a forum would be a good place to sensibly try and address the issues? Seems like the collective experience could be put to good use? Instead it seems like a constant round of 'it's not all .....' Or 'well .... Are just as bad in my view'. For most of us, clubs are something of a symbiotic thing. Couples often want single guys around. Some couples want other couples to feel comfortable to attend. Single guys will want single women and couples in attendance. That's even before you get onto the more subtle preferences and sub groups. Poor behaviour is poor behaviour. Surely the answer is to improve it? Not to tell people to stay out of the kitchen if they can't stand the heat from rude or obnoxious people. Just as it's important for people who are hoping for something, to understand that others will be there for their own needs to be fulfilled. Having your own limits and sticking to them is not the same as being elitist and selfish. Expecting that others will help fulfil your needs and fantasies surely must come with a willingness to trade something. Yet so often we see and hear people thinking that they are doing another group a favour. I wonder if it's a mindset like that we should be working to change? Bx the one thing i would absolutely agree with is that poor behaviour is poor behaviour... the one thing that seems to have been forgotten is that poor behaviour isn't just the domain of one group of people... and yet it is single guys who get tarred with this, whereas in my 10 years ish of going to clubs... it is as likely to actually come from couples.... but that doesn't suit the narrative of bashing the one group... again guys get accused of going round in packs... and yes i have seen it happen..... I have also seen groups of couples going around in packs.... and actually they tend to be larger... and noiser... and you can hear giggling and laughing when they watch ones okay apparently... the other isn't..... an arse is an arse is an arse.... I think that some couples believe they are bulletproof because they come as a couple, and get away with far more than a single couple because they come as a couple..... " I think you're agreeing with far more than one thing there. But, to suggest that no one acknowledges that it's not just single guys rather ignores hundreds of posts on this and previous threads. It's a point that's been made over and over though your example of loud chatting and giggling amongst groups of couples is a good one. In fact we complained of just that to a group of couples and I got threatened with violence from one of the guys for our trouble. The club were magnificent about it though and made it clear where they stood. I guess that's my point. Rather than banging on about it here let's be constructive about raising standards of behaviour and rooting out those who'll just never get it, whoever they are. Bx | |||
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"I think being badly behaved has more to do with how much alcohol someone has d*unk rather then what sex they are." This is true. Was at a club in a locked room. Next thing you know there's an almighty bang on the door. A d*unk guy who I had, had a run in on a previous visit to the same club had tried to get in the room. He hit the door so hard he bent the lock so then we had to break the door to get out. Wasn't a pleasant experience and now I'm weary when I'm at a club. | |||
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"... What could clubs do about "vetting" single males upon entry to a club? Should the rules be more strict for single men? C The club staff could explain the club rules to everyone that attends, whether they are new to the club or not, and to all genders. As other posters have pointed out, some people think they are 'sex clubs' and don't understand the rules. I think it would also help to point out that if there are any issues then that person will be asked to leave. " yes I think all couples who enter a club should sign a single guy waiver form that relinquishes all rights to privacy in the clubs that the single guys pay for on night's obviously where single guys are ALLOWED to enter | |||
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"Without single guys at clubs, the whole lifestyle would be poorer...just as in life we all out the idiots and wannabees, be it socially or in business, its one of the skill sets we all have in the vanilla world. So why should it be any different in clubs etc... " | |||
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"We've been to both mixed and couples only nights and while we prefer couples only nights for the most part, we have enjoyed many a mixed night as well. The clubs we go to where single men are allowed are the ones who actively enforce their rules and policy and where the staff are pro-active at sorting out any problems with individuals who over step the mark, (this comment is in reference to both couples and singles) second to this the clubs concerned have been careful not to just fling the doors open and allow an endless trail of single men to enter. One of these clubs is Ourplace4fun, where an emphasis is put on letting people in who are actually capable of a conversation and won't just sit down, whack their fella out and expect you to be impressed, though clearly some people are just up for that. But your far more likely to get lucky with someone by actually talking to them, taking a polite no with good grace, and being generally friendly, than following people run like a herd of sheep waiting to jump in for a grope when some action kicks off. This type of approach is extremely off putting. Someone mentioned earlier about an argument they witnessed between a couple and a man who wouldn't take no for an answer - God we must have seen several dozen of these. But its unfair to put all the bad behavior of this nature on single men. Often couples will try it on with you where the only person they're actually interested in is the female of the other party - seen that all the time too. The list goes on, but that's another topic entirely. At the end of the day, a club is only as good as the people who go there, how they behave and the atmosphere both the club and those attending create. So if you're at a club which is known for letting in endless single men who seem to think they can behave any way they like, your going to attract more like minded people to that sort of club, the reverse is true if the club goes for quality over cash on the door and makes sure the right kind of people come in for that club. Those couples and single ladies will vote with their feet (and wallets) accordingly. We've enjoyed mixed nights at Ourplace4fun, Atlantis, Club F in Stanley, La Chambre and Sunday on Chameleons had a very chilled vibe too. The worst mixed club we have been to has been Rios. " Thank you | |||
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"We have only been to a few clubs and have not had an issue at any of them from single guys. All have been perfectly pleasant and polite. Couples we have noticed seem to have groups that have obviously become friends over time and do stay together. Which is in our opinion to be expected if you go out and meet friends in vanilla land why would it be any different in a club We go to clubs not to play generally but to chat and network with others and if we get on then hopefully another play date can be set. If we feel comfortable and decide to play on the night we will but that has only happened once when we went to meet a specific couple. I do think people assume everyone is there specifically to play. No all are some are there as purely a social thing. As for guys keeping a club going?? Seriously? Well how many single guys would go if couples and simple ladies didn't go? Clubs keep going because every group generally needs the other groups to keep everyone interested. " This is such a well-balanced post I feel it should be printed out and handed out to those single men or any awkward couples even who attend a club then stand about complaining when they don't get what they want! m x | |||
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"We have mixed feelings about these nights as it seems to be just men roaming and wondering round looking utterly desperate. Its sad that some men are like this. " A man with a raging boner in great need on an 'empty', is highly likely not too bothered about his perceived level of social grace!! | |||
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"Jaydees allows limited single guys on a Saturday night, however they have to book in advance I believe, have verifications on here or be recommended by someone they know who goes there. Not had a single issue with any single guy there, they are all pleasant and respectful " The better clubs like this one have a system to approve and monitor the single men. So long as they continue doing the good word of mouth between the couples and reviews keeps the clubs busy and hence in business. | |||
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