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Heaven Circus... we only gone and done it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

WOW... Wow... Wow...

1172 party people

It's epic! X

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By *eonardoLoveMan
over a year ago

London


"WOW... Wow... Wow...

1172 party people

It's epic! X"

Is it a swinger-club or a one-off event...?

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola

Worse night ever for me.

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola

Security guys spend all night trying to tab my bum. Saw a security taking pics of the people having sex and what's apping it to someone. There was a group of young boys that look younger than my teenage son. One of them said a bouncer was friends with one of them so allowed them in.

Loads of single guys, thought it was a single girls and couples only night. And where should I stop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen more status's saying they were disappointed than saying that it was brilliant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah it was basically crap.

Some stunning people but generally rather bored ones.

Late opening whilst everyone queued in the rain, none of the acts promised seemed to be there, even once the mattresses upstairs opened it seemed strangely subdued and frankly all just a bit... odd....

Met some awesome people but only outside having a smoke. Everything else was a letdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah but they did make a load of money though, so it's not all bad.

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola


"Yeah but they did make a load of money though, so it's not all bad. "

Yes they did made monet but they should refund us. Cause most of us didn't get anything but a few chats in the queue to get in or in the smoking. Very disappointed. Want my money back

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Thats a shame, i was thinking of going to this, glad i didn't know. Were people playing or just posing?

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola

Some were playing but a lot of voyers. No private rooms so I guess the shy ones didn't play.

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By *TFSeventyMan
over a year ago

Weybridge

Sounds like my lady friend and I made the right choice, we went to abfabs instead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow sounds disappointing. Glad I didn't go now.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

To be honest guys, I saw this coming - too much hype .... I think some people see swingers as a great way to make money. Sorry you found out the hard way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This was getting slated on a well known Fet site before it had even happened. Single men were being charged a fortune and then being treated like 3rd class citizens in a policy that made Killing Kittens look positively forward thinking.

I feel dfor those that paid a lot of money but in a way am pleased it was a flop. Behind the hype it was a very expensive night that never offered that much

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By *exylondongrlWoman
over a year ago

Esher

What a surprise! Who really thought this was going to be anything other than an overpriced rave and a cash cow for organisers?

Sex parties are about quality not quantity. The threads about the security, whatsapping pictures and under age boys is disturbing.

Weekend's still good though, off to the classy and selective Le Boudoir tonight. Xx

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By *elentless1Couple
over a year ago

London

Lol, just saw this on Le Boudoirs status - clever marketing and good will, well done guys.

Sorry to hear that the 'Circus' wasn't great, we had a great party Let us help... Bring your Heaven Circus Ticket to Le Boudoir tonight and we'll give you £10 off admission.. Classy and priced right,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These parties are always divisive. Seen plenty of good feedback this morning all from couples.

Been some great Heaven parties sometimes big events are not always best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an aside this is from their twitter account "As featured in: The Times, The Sun, The Mail, The Mirror, The Telegraph, Cosmopolitan, Mens Fitness, LOOK, Vice, The Lad Bible, ZOO, on BBC, Channel 4 and more" is it just me or would that raise alarm bells with anybody else?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lol, just saw this on Le Boudoirs status - clever marketing and good will, well done guys.

Sorry to hear that the 'Circus' wasn't great, we had a great party Let us help... Bring your Heaven Circus Ticket to Le Boudoir tonight and we'll give you £10 off admission.. Classy and priced right,"

Ha ha nothing like striking while the iron is hot. I like this clubs style towards marketing and its clientele.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where to start ... Guess let's start from the beginning.

Level 1 heaven circus is just that "Amature and Overpriced" talk about over promising and under delivering ...

Arrived promptly at 10pm when the doors were meant to open. Unlucky for us the "heavens" opened and it began to rain an Heaven Circus did not manage to open its doors until 10.40 ...a tactic used by many clubs, but when you are paying £85.00 for a ticket... One is not impressed.

We were promised candle floss on entry and all night. Never once saw the machine working.

The Vip area, with a few light cubes for chairs and a few tables behind a roped off area near the stage, was nothing but lame and far from being VIP.

The party was for single females and couples with just a few select single males.... Yeah right ! There were quite a few single males, many of whom were far from being "select " and at some point in the wee hours there seemed to be an influx of local teens who could not have been more than 15 years old, who spent the night gapping at the people having sex in the "couples" area and whatsapping their friends. One of the members of security was a friend and had clearly let them in.

Oh and the no mobile phone rule ? Well mine was in my bag at the coat check, there were many ( including one security guard ) with phones in their hands taking pictures and videoing unsuspecting couples who played on the mattresses that were still in their plastic !!! Really ?? Were these going back to the store on Saturday to be refunded ?

I counted 9 beds in the big orgy room

Not 12.

Anyone was allowed in the VIP play area. You could tell none of the event money went to pay for decorating the venue as it looked as though they had just thrown a few beds together and dimmed the lights thinking that the beautiful people there would hide the fact that very little effort had been made.

The stage acts were either lack lustre or non existent....

Where were the private play rooms and the three dungeon fetish areas ? Did I miss these ? One was supposed to feel like a real underground dungeon.

The after party started at 3 am meaning that despite the night ending at 4am people started to leave by 2pm

to head to the after party or went home leaving the dance floor fairly empty

Ok so the positives ... Music was good, although this should have been turned down in the play areas - the most unsexy orgy ever as you couldn't hear the sounds of sex!

The other positive was it was a very good looking crowd, young and old with some people really making an effort.

Somebody had a good time last night and made a lot of money ... And it wasn't me I was one of the ones looking

rather unamused and bored.

Heaven Circus? Heaven can wait...

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By *ynergiesCouple
over a year ago

Maidenhead

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By *ynergiesCouple
over a year ago

Maidenhead

Been in the lifestyle a while and worst party I've ever been to marketing was totally misleading .

Venue wasn't themed , security poor and play rooms were vulgar and no class to the event at all ...Will not be going back poorly managed and a rip off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was tempted by the pre-hype....phew lucky I didn't go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their twitter feed is surprisingly quiet this morning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet .... Still in the counting house counting out his money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some absolutely stunning people there. I agree with the comments. The venue was just like a warehouse! I did have fun on the bouncy castle though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would never visit one of them partys again, he dont now how to run one.. where was the foam.. where was the candyfloss.. everything was late. security a joke.. only thing that was good was the music.. anyone else reckon the drinks were watered down?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would never visit one of them partys again, he dont now how to run one.. where was the foam.. where was the candyfloss.. everything was late. security a joke.. only thing that was good was the music.. anyone else reckon the drinks were watered down?"
im sure they where ,as i could hardly taste any vodka in my

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"Was tempted by the pre-hype....phew lucky I didn't go "

Yeah, I have them in my hotlist but decided to hold back from making an enquiry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn ! I forgot the foam party !! That didn't happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it might be a idea to contact them and request a refund or a partal refund as they didnt provide what was clearly on the website. If that fails then contact the credit card company for a chargeback! I will use this topic as proof as its reviews from others at the place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks good idea !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did I miss any of these? or were they just not at the party?

Foam Party Room

Ball Pit Room!

Coconut Shy

The Chill Village

Adult Theatre

Photo Booth

Performances from – BMX Stunt Riders

Performances from - Angle Grinder Performer

The Play Cage

Candy Floss

Three Bars? (Only 1 open)

I didnt see any thing about the World Record Attempt?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are spot on. All missing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friends T4STY, and Femme Noir have posted most of my thoughts We were beyond appalled, and know many, many others were too. And no. The "others" I refer to were not old and looking old/out of shape/ugly, etc.

There was no ambience/vibe. No, not because people were boring. You could look around, and tell the like-minded people by their appearance and demeanour. They had made an effort and did not just come wearing their house clothes, the fact they were talking, and their body language. I met a lovely couple outside, plus a single guy - all very easy on the eye and nice people, who thought all events, and clubs were like this - it was the first time for all of them. I explained to them that they totally are not, and they should not be put off by last night. They all replied that lots of people said the same thing to them when they asked but no one said it with malice. Interestingly, they all said their was no "sexy feeling". I agreed with them 100%. Felt that I could have arrived wearing jeans, Converse, and a jumper and felt the same as I did dressed up. It was a very surreal feeling - having been to other events, clubs, and private parties - where I have rarely played but always had a good time, and felt sexy and sexual. Experienced friends - old and new who I were there also said the exact same thing.

Clearing the beds away while guests are still present was rude, and lacking decorum. Like going down on a woman, then wiping your mouth and using mouthwash immediately afterwards - as she watches.

Also, I understand why there was plastic on the beds but they could still have been made TK Maxx sell 300 thread count Egyptian cotton fitted sheets for around £12. Having flat sheets that just came off made things seem even seedier than they already did with their almost zero all round effort, and just made no sense :-s

I wasn't expecting it to be absolutely spiffingly fantabulous - as don't see how an event where ANYONE who pays gets in could be. However, I wasn't expecting the lack of effort - how hard is it to buy and use some decorations?! Mobile phone policy - what mobile phone policy? I obviously didn't get the most recent memo about people being able to take pictures of themselves, and others. Asking for ID on the door but no mention of it being needed on the various correspondence or hype beforehand. Not that it mattered, as there were clearly schoolchildren allowed in - and not towards the end to make up the numbers. I mean, being allowed in by the security firm right from the off.

Lots of people - including hot single ladies just gave up, and left early. The wristband thing was bollocks. I went as a couple, with another couple. Our wristbands were the same colour. Out of another two single lady friends - who bought their tickets at the same time, one had a wristband the same colour as us couples. Another had one a different colour.

I can only assume that was part of the selection process - which I am not against - horses for courses after all but have some decorum and select people by approaching them as you said you would. Don't insult our intelligence with "official" rules, then blatantly do something else.

As for the dungeon area. It didn't exist. There was A St. George's Cross in the ground floor bar area, and what looked like a park bench on the second floor but that was it.

As for the ball pit. It didn't exist.

As for the foam party. It didn't happen.

Where was the candy floss too? I did see a teeny, machine machine towards the end but had forgotten about it by then. Maybe that was the plan. Leave them all standing outside for over thirty minutes in the rain, then they'll be so pleased just to finally be inside, they'll forget about what was advertised, and not notice that we arrived two hours before the guests, just to put unmade beds on the floor.

The singer on stilts who came outside to apologise did have nice voice, and I enjoyed her performance inside. Would be interested in seeing more of her singing.

It was "great" having to walk right by the closed bar on the second floor, all the way back downstairs to buy drinks too

The overall attitude of the organisation of it seemed to be, "people wanna get in, so we'll just let anyone in who pays, and they should be grateful for that, and what little we decide to do and provide".

I actually read another lady's comments on last year's event and thought she sounded like she wanted to give people a very balanced, all round view without slating anyone, which I found really insightful.

Anyone who complains about the vetting and ID procedures some clubs have pre-visit really should have a long, hard think about why they are against providing some sort of advance information, and what they expect at a "free-for-all, no criteria" club/event. Then again, I guess it depends what they want. We don't all want the same thing after all.

At the end of the day, I paid for my ticket, fancy dress outfit and accessories, and taxi fare for an experience. And an experience I most certainly did get

I've spent more on impromptu cinema trips, with food and drinks. So I'm not complaining about the monetary aspect but the false advertising mainly, and shoddy behaviour of the security firm.

It was an experience I do not intending on repeating. Personal preference.

If that was Heaven's Circle, then give me Hell's Square.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lol, just saw this on Le Boudoirs status - clever marketing and good will, well done guys.

Sorry to hear that the 'Circus' wasn't great, we had a great party Let us help... Bring your Heaven Circus Ticket to Le Boudoir tonight and we'll give you £10 off admission.. Classy and priced right,"

Anyone thinking about taking them up on this offer - make like Nike, and "Just Do It". Ask yourself what you have to lose?....

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola

I wonder what BBC and channel and all the newspapers and magazine that wrote about would think if they read this comments?

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola

Just went to have a look on the comment I made about heaven circus on Heaven Social and guess what? They blocked me. Guess someone cannot take a critic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont know if im blocked but it says the site is down for maintenance and need a access code. Wanted to read the reviews on that site.. I like to be balanced and all that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont know if im blocked but it says the site is down for maintenance and need a access code. Wanted to read the reviews on that site.. I like to be balanced and all that. "
it said the dame thing when i tries to go on earlier

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool


"Lol, just saw this on Le Boudoirs status - clever marketing and good will, well done guys.

Sorry to hear that the 'Circus' wasn't great, we had a great party Let us help... Bring your Heaven Circus Ticket to Le Boudoir tonight and we'll give you £10 off admission.. Classy and priced right,"

I love this !!!!! Pmsl

xx

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By *layfulserfMan
over a year ago

Northolt

Gutted for my friends that went (and those that I'd like to be friends with) after reading all of these negative comments as they were all so looking forward to it

Still, they all now how to enjoy themseleves and would have hopefully had fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are so excited to be giving away LOTS of naughty prizes at #HeavenCircus sponsored by @SimplyPleasure!

Did anyone see any prizes or even SimplyPleasure sponsoring the event.. was that fake too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the list continues to grow! Nope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like everyone's been scammed from what I've read

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By *wfunCouple
over a year ago

Margate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been to 100's of parties over the years and I'm so glad this one passed me by. Some people local to me have been pushing the event and I had a look but decided no. I feel really sorry for the people that went and got ripped off. Broken promises followed by false hopes equals pissed off people. If by chance the people who organised this event should happen to read this let me give you some basic advice. A party is in two stages 1 make people want to go. 2 make them never want to leave! If you want to know how to do that give give me a shout, btw it will cost a lot! That info ain't cheap oh yeah and if you think you made a quick buck and are laughing then look at the bigger picture, you could have done it every month.. peace n love people x

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By *wfunCouple
over a year ago

Margate

All these swinger event companies seem to be scamming people. Having attended a party at the most famous brand and felt utterly ripped off, not to mention unsafe, I would never attend an event like this.

I hope people start to learn that EVERY WEEK good clubs like AbFabs, VA, Le Boudoir and many more are providing a better, safer environment than these event companies. They only get the attention because they're so good at PR!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The sounds like the Swingers equivalent of the 'Winter Wonderland' that got closed down a couple of years ago for being pants.

I like the idea of 'big' events, but I also like the idea of the right people being let in, vetted, right ambience etc.

(Incidentally, reading the above posts, there's a recurring them....I had no idea so many swingers were so keen to get some candy floss.)

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By *wfunCouple
over a year ago

Margate


"I like the idea of 'big' events, but I also like the idea of the right people being let in, vetted, right ambience etc."

I don't know how much was charged for this event, but when the brand leader can charge £160 for a London Penthouse party (our first 'club' experience) and the couple you start talking to are pissed off cos they'd been to VA and it was a far better set up for a fraction of the price, you start to appreciate that a seedy scam is in progress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of 'big' events, but I also like the idea of the right people being let in, vetted, right ambience etc.

I don't know how much was charged for this event, but when the brand leader can charge £160 for a London Penthouse party (our first 'club' experience) and the couple you start talking to are pissed off cos they'd been to VA and it was a far better set up for a fraction of the price, you start to appreciate that a seedy scam is in progress."

£85 for a couple and £40 for a single girl and I dont think single guy price was published on the website. The watered down drinks was £8.80 for a double vodka and and a half print of was £2.80.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sounds like everyone's been scammed from what I've read "

You have 20/20 vision

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like the idea of 'big' events, but I also like the idea of the right people being let in, vetted, right ambience etc.

I don't know how much was charged for this event, but when the brand leader can charge £160 for a London Penthouse party (our first 'club' experience) and the couple you start talking to are pissed off cos they'd been to VA and it was a far better set up for a fraction of the price, you start to appreciate that a seedy scam is in progress.

£85 for a couple and £40 for a single girl and I dont think single guy price was published on the website. The watered down drinks was £8.80 for a double vodka and and a half print of was £2.80. "

Can of Red Stripe, Southern Comfort and Coke, two Jaeger Bombs! Gave the guy a twenty expecting change and he asked for another three pounds.

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By *wfunCouple
over a year ago

Margate

Ouch - at KK we were told "£20 buys you 4 drinks tokens" - which seemed OK for London.

Problem was every drink required 2 tokens...

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Well, reading all the comments on here and other forums, it seems that the only thing "elite" about some of these parties is the price... the organisers seem to think that charging a higher price and marketing it as a "posh" or "select" event gives them carte blanche to take the piss!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me and Lou were looking to go a big event next year for a to do on our bucket list ( yes we have a bucket list lol) but herd so many bad points regarding security and bad planning we decided not to and spend the Xtra cash going to our favourite club xtasia, this only confirms to us that we made the right choice but on the plus side friends have enjoyed swing fields so will keep fingers crossed.

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By *estmidscoupleCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands


"Me and Lou were looking to go a big event next year for a to do on our bucket list ( yes we have a bucket list lol) but herd so many bad points regarding security and bad planning we decided not to and spend the Xtra cash going to our favourite club xtasia, this only confirms to us that we made the right choice but on the plus side friends have enjoyed swing fields so will keep fingers crossed. "

Was just thinking same as you about Swing Fields being the only one we'd consider

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did anyone goto the "after party" that also cost £35.. was sold out before we could get a ticket. Maybe that was a bit better? we left about 2am and I would say 50% of the people had left by then. The guy who runs it was on stage at 12.30 doing some wierd dance thing and after that never saw him again. so maybe he left too..

However did anyone get a envelope that was to be giving out to selective couples? or was that fake too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This event had "scam" written all over it from day one. Eyebrows were certainly raised when the venue for this "soirée" was revealed .. that coupled with in-fighting and ineptitude meant the inevitable debacle ensued.

The Coronet is a very large venue such that only promoters of established bona fide "alternative" events (such as Torture Garden, Antichrist etc.) have the resources and chutzpah to pull off a successful event and then usually only just at break-even point.

Unfortunately, a lot of punters were ripped on this one...

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By *exylondongrlWoman
over a year ago

Esher

Are Party Pleasures who started this thread on behalf of Heaven Circle, or the self proclaimed Sex Baron of Belgravia, Chris Reynolds-Gordon even prepared to address this feedback?

Radio silence, shows utter contempt for everyone suckered in to spending money with them in the past. Of course, we hear so much about his prowess as an Interntaional athlete that maybe he has done a runner already?

I totally agree with some of the previous posts, about the lack of class and value for money from the so called 'elitist' party promoters like Heaven Circle, Killing Kittens, Fever and City Slickers. It's all a rip off.

£120 - £160 a party, PLUS having to buy drinks tokens for overpriced and possibly watered down drinks (which is completely illegal, if the premises is not licensed) just takes people for a ride. At a recent KK party they had no beds and people were having sex on the floor. On the other hand, as the saying goes, a fool and their money are easily parted.

Clubs like VA and most recently Le Boudoir are like chalk and cheese by comparison and is where EVERY swinger should be going, boycotting the elitist rip off brigade.

For a start, we are not all size zero super models or city playboys and once you hit 36yrs it means you are EXPERIENCED not PAST IT!

The clubs are well managed, clean, discerning about their clientele and most of all incredible value for money.

As a single girl it costs me only £10 to go to Le Boudoir and I take my own vodka, for which they give me free mixers. Compare that to what happened at the elitist parties?

If I go with my FB, they admit us as couple and not two singles and we pay only the £50 couples admission. Again we take our own drinks, so no extra costs.

We have never had an experience like the ones coming out of last night. No one has ever taken photos of us having sex and broadcast them to friends or social media. If I was on a bed at Circus last night and I saw someone doing that I'd be suing the arse off the promoters for breach of privacy. Shameful.

Maybe this is a watershed for the self publicist like KK and HC. People won't stand to be ripped off anymore.

When the 24hr tubes start in London, getting home from Le Boudoir will be even easier than Uber.

Gotta go now, I'm off to Boudoir tonight with a bi girlfriend who wants to go to a club for the first time. I know exactly what it will cost me, the quality of people I'll meet and play with and most of all that the club has my back from a privacy perspective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are Party Pleasures who started this thread on behalf of Heaven Circle, or the self proclaimed Sex Baron of Belgravia, Chris Reynolds-Gordon even prepared to address this feedback?

Radio silence, shows utter contempt for everyone suckered in to spending money with them in the past. Of course, we hear so much about his prowess as an Interntaional athlete that maybe he has done a runner already?

I totally agree with some of the previous posts, about the lack of class and value for money from the so called 'elitist' party promoters like Heaven Circle, Killing Kittens, Fever and City Slickers. It's all a rip off.

£120 - £160 a party, PLUS having to buy drinks tokens for overpriced and possibly watered down drinks (which is completely illegal, if the premises is not licensed) just takes people for a ride. At a recent KK party they had no beds and people were having sex on the floor. On the other hand, as the saying goes, a fool and their money are easily parted.

Clubs like VA and most recently Le Boudoir are like chalk and cheese by comparison and is where EVERY swinger should be going, boycotting the elitist rip off brigade.

For a start, we are not all size zero super models or city playboys and once you hit 36yrs it means you are EXPERIENCED not PAST IT!

The clubs are well managed, clean, discerning about their clientele and most of all incredible value for money.

As a single girl it costs me only £10 to go to Le Boudoir and I take my own vodka, for which they give me free mixers. Compare that to what happened at the elitist parties?

If I go with my FB, they admit us as couple and not two singles and we pay only the £50 couples admission. Again we take our own drinks, so no extra costs.

We have never had an experience like the ones coming out of last night. No one has ever taken photos of us having sex and broadcast them to friends or social media. If I was on a bed at Circus last night and I saw someone doing that I'd be suing the arse off the promoters for breach of privacy. Shameful.

Maybe this is a watershed for the self publicist like KK and HC. People won't stand to be ripped off anymore.

When the 24hr tubes start in London, getting home from Le Boudoir will be even easier than Uber.

Gotta go now, I'm off to Boudoir tonight with a bi girlfriend who wants to go to a club for the first time. I know exactly what it will cost me, the quality of people I'll meet and play with and most of all that the club has my back from a privacy perspective.

"

Spot on!

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By *wfunCouple
over a year ago

Margate


"Maybe this is a watershed for the self publicist like KK and HC. People won't stand to be ripped off anymore."

Probably not. There are lots of people *like us* who are too afraid to try out regular top quality clubs like Le Boudoir (gutted we have had to cancel going there tonight - which incidentally won't cost me a penny as we only have to pay at the door!) because they think it will be seedy.

In actuality these "elite" clubs with great PR are the unsafe ones that allow single guys to attend with escorts, and then prowl the rooms, whereas the real clubs don't allow it. The "elite" clubs don't stop gropers and photo-takers whereas the real clubs will jump on them and ban them.

If you get a big chunk of the country to try you once at those prices, who cares if they don't make a second visit

An talking of safety, these parties are often run in private flats - what happens in the event of a fire? Fire exit anyone?

It was only because we spoke to another couple there who told us that proper clubs were better and cheaper that we stuck with it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As an aside this is from their twitter account "As featured in: The Times, The Sun, The Mail, The Mirror, The Telegraph, Cosmopolitan, Mens Fitness, LOOK, Vice, The Lad Bible, ZOO, on BBC, Channel 4 and more" is it just me or would that raise alarm bells with anybody else?"

Err yes! Wouldn't touch it with a fookin barge pole for that reason!

Wayyyyy to dodgy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did anyone goto the "after party" that also cost £35.. was sold out before we could get a ticket. Maybe that was a bit better? we left about 2am and I would say 50% of the people had left by then. The guy who runs it was on stage at 12.30 doing some wierd dance thing and after that never saw him again. so maybe he left too..

However did anyone get a envelope that was to be giving out to selective couples? or was that fake too "

He didn't leave or if he did, he returned quite quickly.

I saw him just after I caught a security guy taking pics of people having sex on the bed on the first floor. The guy he took a pic of used the same condom on three different women in a row. I was seething at the security guy's actions, so got up and was en route to collect my stuff from the cloakroom when I saw him. I promptly told two of the other staff re the photo taking - which probably did no good. I did consider telling him but was absolutely livid at the photo thing, plus the schoolchildren, and just wanted out. Also my expectations at that point were that my breath would have been wasted had I said anything.

Shortly after, saw him carrying one of the beds to put away - before the end. Before the end, as in - NOT the official finish time. A guy in a "MEDIC" top was expressing his concern that a lady was outside in just her lace thong teddy and heels

I did see that the price for a single girl for the after party yesterday morning was £11.25. Glad I didn't waste more money by purchasing a ticket to that too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like this event was rip off of the century....defo all hype and bs promises.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Are Party Pleasures who started this thread on behalf of Heaven Circle, or the self proclaimed Sex Baron of Belgravia, Chris Reynolds-Gordon even prepared to address this feedback?

Radio silence, shows utter contempt for everyone suckered in to spending money with them in the past. Of course, we hear so much about his prowess as an Interntaional athlete that maybe he has done a runner already?

I totally agree with some of the previous posts, about the lack of class and value for money from the so called 'elitist' party promoters like Heaven Circle, Killing Kittens, Fever and City Slickers. It's all a rip off.

£120 - £160 a party, PLUS having to buy drinks tokens for overpriced and possibly watered down drinks (which is completely illegal, if the premises is not licensed) just takes people for a ride. At a recent KK party they had no beds and people were having sex on the floor. On the other hand, as the saying goes, a fool and their money are easily parted.

Clubs like VA and most recently Le Boudoir are like chalk and cheese by comparison and is where EVERY swinger should be going, boycotting the elitist rip off brigade.

For a start, we are not all size zero super models or city playboys and once you hit 36yrs it means you are EXPERIENCED not PAST IT!

The clubs are well managed, clean, discerning about their clientele and most of all incredible value for money.

As a single girl it costs me only £10 to go to Le Boudoir and I take my own vodka, for which they give me free mixers. Compare that to what happened at the elitist parties?

If I go with my FB, they admit us as couple and not two singles and we pay only the £50 couples admission. Again we take our own drinks, so no extra costs.

We have never had an experience like the ones coming out of last night. No one has ever taken photos of us having sex and broadcast them to friends or social media. If I was on a bed at Circus last night and I saw someone doing that I'd be suing the arse off the promoters for breach of privacy. Shameful.

Maybe this is a watershed for the self publicist like KK and HC. People won't stand to be ripped off anymore.

When the 24hr tubes start in London, getting home from Le Boudoir will be even easier than Uber.

Gotta go now, I'm off to Boudoir tonight with a bi girlfriend who wants to go to a club for the first time. I know exactly what it will cost me, the quality of people I'll meet and play with and most of all that the club has my back from a privacy perspective.

"

How many clubs are asking for face picks though? Lots of personal details too? We are members of abfabs, but don't get there too often, and also attend bi kink regularly, also mad and a couple of others in the Sutton House, but I would worry about a club asking for my face pic before deciding if I can become a member - privacy issue and also elitist? I am not talking about the Heaven thing here - as it clearly appealed to a certain market, and not us.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

We had complimentary tickets but couldn't make it.i think we'll just stick with clubs,and local private parties in the future though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This event had "scam" written all over it from day one. Eyebrows were certainly raised when the venue for this "soirée" was revealed .. that coupled with in-fighting and ineptitude meant the inevitable debacle ensued.

The Coronet is a very large venue such that only promoters of established bona fide "alternative" events (such as Torture Garden, Antichrist etc.) have the resources and chutzpah to pull off a successful event and then usually only just at break-even point.

Unfortunately, a lot of punters were ripped on this one...

"

As you say, only the 2 biggest London promotors could put an event on there and expect to pull it off. There are many other good events in London but that is because other promotors know their limits.

I'm of the opinion that this wasn't a deliberate scam but that the organisers bit off way more than they could deal with

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

Here's my comment:

I throughly agree with you all on this thread. It was a disappointment. Lots of things promised and none of it lived up to the hype. I had been to the last one and it semi-lived up to the hype, but last night I did not even feel safe enough to play. Which is why I was looking forward to the after party. The after party never happened... well, not officially. I went to the venue and the security/doorman wouldn't let us through and he was turning away a lot of couples from the coronet too. I called the owner of the apartment (not Chris) and he said that they were still at the coronet till 4-4:30

Not really on that the times of the party and after party don't match.

Chris' girlfriend was outside the place and on the phone to Chris I presume telling him the situation. I had a couple of friends in the car confused about what was going on and a lovely couple who came from Kent who were hoping to get a train home at 7am after the after party. Shortly after Chris' girlfriend leaves and says she has to deal with matters back at the venue.

The owner arrives and allows myself and my friends in, but we wonder where Chris and the rest of the inner circle are and it only confirms that they must have had an alternative after party when he calls at 7am to ask what's happening at the apartment.

The owner of the apartment (lovely gentleman) tells me that Chris had told him about the after party last minute because there was already an after party happening for a vanilla club at the apartment.

Not really on Chris. You owe people their money back. Not a great party and terrible organisation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems this Chris bloke is a scammer of the highest order.

Think id have been having a "word" with him if id coughed up that much.

This will be his partheon shot to swinging parties.

Kiss his rep good bye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems this Chris bloke is a scammer of the highest order.

Think id have been having a "word" with him if id coughed up that much.

This will be his partheon shot to swinging parties.

Kiss his rep good bye"

Yes, Even his social site (like this) has been closed for maintenance all day.. I would have expected a post from them about why this has happened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So the OP was last on 6 minutes ago and still doesn't have the courtesy to answer the criticism.

Probably too busy counting the wads.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Seems this Chris bloke is a scammer of the highest order.

Think id have been having a "word" with him if id coughed up that much.

This will be his partheon shot to swinging parties.

Kiss his rep good bye"

He does seem to be very high profile. As soon as I saw one of the programmes on telly, I knew it was not the sort of thing I was into. Glad I can trust my instincts.

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

I was all for heaven circle, but now I'm adamantly against it. Sad really...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the OP was last on 6 minutes ago and still doesn't have the courtesy to answer the criticism.

Probably too busy counting the wads. "

Let's not get into a witchhunt. The OP was simply a DJ at the party and is playing Effentra tonight. Not exactly at fault for the state of the party be fair.

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London


"So the OP was last on 6 minutes ago and still doesn't have the courtesy to answer the criticism.

Probably too busy counting the wads.

Let's not get into a witchhunt. The OP was simply a DJ at the party and is playing Effentra tonight. Not exactly at fault for the state of the party be fair. "

Yes not OP's fault

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies. I thought the op was the host.

Sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like youve all been ripped..Glad we never went..

Good money spinner, an thats all it is.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Sounds like youve all been ripped..Glad we never went..

Good money spinner, an thats all it is. "

The OP did post that it was epic, though. Was it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sounds like youve all been ripped..Glad we never went..

Good money spinner, an thats all it is.

The OP did post that it was epic, though. Was it?"

yeah it was a epic disaster BTW the music was great!! just missing the foam lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sounds like youve all been ripped..Glad we never went..

Good money spinner, an thats all it is.

The OP did post that it was epic, though. Was it?"

As a DJ playing in front of a crowd of 1200 people I should think it was epic for the op. Look at the timing of their post too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sounds like youve all been ripped..Glad we never went..

Good money spinner, an thats all it is.

The OP did post that it was epic, though. Was it?

As a DJ playing in front of a crowd of 1200 people I should think it was epic for the op. Look at the timing of their post too. "

And even if it wasn't epic, no DJ is going to publicly say anything against the people paying their wages

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"All these swinger event companies seem to be scamming people. Having attended a party at the most famous brand and felt utterly ripped off, not to mention unsafe, I would never attend an event like this.

I hope people start to learn that EVERY WEEK good clubs like AbFabs, VA, Le Boudoir and many more are providing a better, safer environment than these event companies. They only get the attention because they're so good at PR!"

So agree with you! Can't understand why people don't just go to the great clubs we already have. An evening with 1100 people in a warehouse - how erotic...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must admit we went to HC and yes we were very disappointed in venue and organisation.

Its a real shame as there was some of the hottest sexy couples there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you all watched the documemtary about swinging. The guy who runs HC was on it and said he had millions then lost it all. He was in it to make money. He seen this as the payday he needed? Cutting corners to increase bottom line. The guy has no passion for swinging. He is just a bloke who is trying to get rich.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"If you all watched the documemtary about swinging. The guy who runs HC was on it and said he had millions then lost it all. He was in it to make money. He seen this as the payday he needed? Cutting corners to increase bottom line. The guy has no passion for swinging. He is just a bloke who is trying to get rich."

I thought that from the documentary too - that's why I avoided the whole thing. Its all gone a bit too commercial for my liking.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"All these swinger event companies seem to be scamming people. Having attended a party at the most famous brand and felt utterly ripped off, not to mention unsafe, I would never attend an event like this.

I hope people start to learn that EVERY WEEK good clubs like AbFabs, VA, Le Boudoir and many more are providing a better, safer environment than these event companies. They only get the attention because they're so good at PR!"

The VA is just down the road from us, and we love it there. When I look at the prices for couples at some of these "Elite" events I often think, its 3 or 4 times the price of the VA, and always a lot further away, will it be worth it? Why have one night at KK, when I could have 4 nights at the VA?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You should all sit in a bucket of ice water cause it sounds like you've had your arses well and truley burnt

Over hyped events never live up to the expectation.

"Don't believe the hype"

Alex turner

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By *rHornyGentMan
over a year ago

South East London

Looking at the OP's profile seems that if you head to Effrenata you might grab them for your refund.

Shame it was didn't turn out the way people expected. A world record attempt sounded like it was something the North Koreans would do. Synchronised flag waving and shagging!

If the service wasn't provided I think you'll find the price at £85 was pitched just below the credit card company usual £100 limit for these type of refunds.

Let us know if anyone gets their money back this way.

MHG - peace & love

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By *ebedeedoodahMan
over a year ago

Greenford

And what about all the single guys in jeans and trainer. Who made no effort at all. Who just there to perv or get lucky. And they were allowed into the dungeon area area!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looking at the OP's profile seems that if you head to Effrenata you might grab them for your refund.

Shame it was didn't turn out the way people expected. A world record attempt sounded like it was something the North Koreans would do. Synchronised flag waving and shagging!

If the service wasn't provided I think you'll find the price at £85 was pitched just below the credit card company usual £100 limit for these type of refunds.

Let us know if anyone gets their money back this way.

MHG - peace & love"

The OP was only a DJ at the event he didn't organise it.

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By *ebedeedoodahMan
over a year ago

Greenford

It was a sham and hugely disappointing. Where was the dress code policy. So many single guys shouldn't have made it pass the front door :S

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By *ebedeedoodahMan
over a year ago

Greenford

I had two very naughty bi girls on leashes ready to play. One being a single fem had access to upstairs myself and friend didn't as a couple :S Were so looking forward to it. Was definitely plenty of sexy peeps there. Just just weren't given the opportunity x

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London


"I had two very naughty bi girls on leashes ready to play. One being a single fem had access to upstairs myself and friend didn't as a couple :S Were so looking forward to it. Was definitely plenty of sexy peeps there. Just just weren't given the opportunity x"

If you had a gold wristband you should have been able to. But then again lots people without wristbands or the proper ones were upstairs too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the biggest joke was the couples only room.. To get into it you had to push past so many security guards gawking at the top of the stairs along with single males and even children that any ideas of playing were rather a distant thought...

The security seemed far too busy to check wristbands..

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I think the biggest joke was the couples only room.. To get into it you had to push past so many security guards gawking at the top of the stairs along with single males and even children that any ideas of playing were rather a distant thought...

The security seemed far too busy to check wristbands.. "

When you check in the main area single guys were giving gold wristbands.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny thing just noticed.. I said to the wife im sure I just saw Danniella Westbrook and it was as its on twitter lol

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By *ilacWoman
over a year ago

Cheshire

I'm just watching all this on the forum and on the other social network mentioned. It seems the same event was marketed as two separate events with two separate prices. The swingers bought tickets to heaven circus and the clubbers bought tickets to an event with a circus theme and 'sexual undertones'

Both advertise 1200 tickets, both advertise the candy floss machine.

Wow, disappointed for you all the feel duped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just watching all this on the forum and on the other social network mentioned. It seems the same event was marketed as two separate events with two separate prices. The swingers bought tickets to heaven circus and the clubbers bought tickets to an event with a circus theme and 'sexual undertones'

Both advertise 1200 tickets, both advertise the candy floss machine.

Wow, disappointed for you all the feel duped. "

The Organiser for both events was HeavenCircle. So offer expensive tickets for swingers and make them think that when you are at the venue that everyone has a "swingers mind" but then offer £15 tickets to fill it up to make it look like everyone is going for Heaven Circus. Everyone that night I thought was either into swinging or looking to maybe seeing what it was.. this is now clearly not the case. This is now looking like fraud. The email from the event says that over 1000 singles and couples are going. This is now not the case.

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By *epper123Woman
over a year ago

London

Maybe the organisers think swingers will be too embarrassed to try to get their money back or to report the fraud - somehow, given the comments here, I doubt it. From the start it was obvious there was something not right about it. But I hope people pursue getting their money back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe the organisers think swingers will be too embarrassed to try to get their money back or to report the fraud - somehow, given the comments here, I doubt it. From the start it was obvious there was something not right about it. But I hope people pursue getting their money back."

Spoken to MBNA about this, I was told to contact the Event people and request a refund, contact eventbrite and request a refund. Give them a reasonable amount of time to rectify this and if they do not reply then MBNA will do a chargeback and give them 40 days dispute it. I personally think that this is a scam and as more infomation comes out the more that proves it. This night was clearly sold as swingers night.. if not why didnt they offer this on the same eventbrite page. Offering the other event at £10 a few days before to increase the numbers. I noticed a lot of people were wearing hardly any clothes.. I wonder if that person had known would never go around nearly naked?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will be requesting a refund for sure. To say that I'm pissed is an understatement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looking at the OP's profile seems that if you head to Effrenata you might grab them for your refund.

Shame it was didn't turn out the way people expected. A world record attempt sounded like it was something the North Koreans would do. Synchronised flag waving and shagging!

If the service wasn't provided I think you'll find the price at £85 was pitched just below the credit card company usual £100 limit for these type of refunds.

Let us know if anyone gets their money back this way.

MHG - peace & love"

From all accounts the "Effranata lifestyle event" was beset by similar tales of woe as this sorry debacle.

It's no coincidence that the organisation of both "events" were related in terms of purpose and endeavour.

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By *lack Shoe Red SoulCouple
over a year ago

North Hampshire

Having returned early from Effrenata I can clarify that it wasn't as expected. However I don't believe it was a "scam" I really believe that the organiser tried very hard to deliver his very high promises, sadly it was beset by problems and wasn't as classy as expected.

X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you look at the flyer on twitter for this it was sponsored by VA so perhaps they might have some answers ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having returned early from Effrenata I can clarify that it wasn't as expected. However I don't believe it was a "scam" I really believe that the organiser tried very hard to deliver his very high promises, sadly it was beset by problems and wasn't as classy as expected.

X"

So you offer a swingers night at £80 for couples and then offer the same night as a dance club for £10-£15 each then email the swingers telling them that 400+ couples and 200 single girls and some VIP guys.. are coming but forget to tell the customers that also this figures include people that are only paying for the dance area.

Lies lies and more lies. I wonder why the social site is still down and requires a "Access Code" and nothing has been said about it by the Organisers.

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By *lack Shoe Red SoulCouple
over a year ago

North Hampshire

Not sure why you quoted my post as I have nothing to do with either events organisers! I was just posting in answer to the Effrenata mention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why you quoted my post as I have nothing to do with either events organisers! I was just posting in answer to the Effrenata mention "

Yup

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By *uracell BunniesWoman
over a year ago

peterborough

Oh shucks, thanks for the compliment guys xxx

The va team

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why you quoted my post as I have nothing to do with either events organisers! I was just posting in answer to the Effrenata mention "

ohh ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As has been said it is not the fault of the Dj but the Dj is part of the crew running the event and since he/she opened the thread I think it would better if they answered the mass volume of opinion and not just stay quiet and hide. This is not so much a witch hunt as it is people speaking out. I have never come across such a large amount of people speaking out against an event. I would suggest that this Chris has many questions to answer. And I challenge him to grow a spine and face his criticism in this public forum! Chris you have treated your paying customers with utter contempt but worst of all you've done the same to the party scene and lifestyle we lead and that is unforgivable. The good news is that we all know what you look like and who you are so should you try and pull this again it will be a total waste of your time. Remember if it walks like a dog and barks like a dog then there is a very good chance it's a damn dog!

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By *uracell BunniesWoman
over a year ago

peterborough

It was NOT sponsored by U.S. the VA.

They gave away some tickets at our festival and advertised that they would be doing so, we have no affiliation or stakes in the event.

The only events we are ever involved in in promoting are the ones on our website

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By *eonardoLoveMan
over a year ago

London

Right it seems it is not a place worth to go then...

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

Shocking to read all this.

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By *razedcatMan
over a year ago

London / Herts

Very disappointing stuff. I feel sorry for all those who went thinking they were going to experience something quite special, only to be let down massively.

Based on what people have been saying, refunds are clearly justified under the law. I hope no one is deterred in chasing a refund based on the nature of the event, even if it means lodging a application at County Court.

An allegation of fraud in this instance is a little tricker. This does sound like a case of fraud by false representation - non swing tickets being flogged at the last minute to bolster numbers suggests so. However,the question of whether that entails civil or criminal liability is unclear. The line between mismanagement and pure dishonesty is a little blurry here.

In any case, I imagine heaven social's reputation lies in tatters, now.

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman
over a year ago

essex just looking around

hours ago... just this minute! ... ./cirqueseduction on Twitter. Charged 15.00 a ticket for the same ticket that us swingers paid £45.00 for Heaven Circus rip off.

Seen this on a status and true

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Total con and not as advertised

Just trying to be a poor man's torture gardens. .

And as for the beds .. shocking

Yet.to find one person that enjoyed ff for friends we knew

Best to stick to the elite parties ... made worse that the organisers were nt there all night and more interested in running another private party at same time

Had so much potential .

Who cares about records .. you should care about the service and value for money you give

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By *ilacWoman
over a year ago

Cheshire


"hours ago... just this minute! ... ./cirqueseduction on Twitter. Charged 15.00 a ticket for the same ticket that us swingers paid £45.00 for Heaven Circus rip off.

Seen this on a status and true

.

Total con and not as advertised

Just trying to be a poor man's torture gardens. .

And as for the beds .. shocking

Yet.to find one person that enjoyed ff for friends we knew

Best to stick to the elite parties ... made worse that the organisers were nt there all night and more interested in running another private party at same time

Had so much potential .

Who cares about records .. you should care about the service and value for money you give

"

The same event labelled as two different names. Really bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I went to the last one and it was exactly the same ..like some cheap orgy warehouse... mattress on floor ..no ambience...nothing sexy about it...

The entertainment was a few young boys doing stunts on bmx bikes in the way if everyone...who then took pics and grabbed bums

Don't bother guys. .. was like a cattle market in orgy room

Overpriced and overrated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love the OP's

"Heaven Circus... we only gone and done it...."

 

Showed everyone how not to run an event!!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

see... the problem i have is that the OP may not have anything directly to do with the planning of this event..... but they have been been doing a lot of the promotion of the event on here....

so where they ,may not be culpable as such... their hands aren't exactly clean....

I know there was a thread from the organisers posting all their other events that were planned in the next few months, and I hope that has now been taken off the site as a result......

I hope people to chase up their money thru small claims... it sounds at best a case of false advertising (especially the price difference... as worst it is fraud)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was NOT sponsored by U.S. the VA.

They gave away some tickets at our festival and advertised that they would be doing so, we have no affiliation or stakes in the event.

The only events we are ever involved in in promoting are the ones on our website"

Sorry but the flyer says otherwise you say you have no affiliation yet you allowed them to sell tickets at your event and you also sold them through the VA website , had the event been a success I bet you wouldn't be saying the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hours ago... just this minute! ... ./cirqueseduction on Twitter. Charged 15.00 a ticket for the same ticket that us swingers paid £45.00 for Heaven Circus rip off.

Seen this on a status and true

.

Total con and not as advertised

Just trying to be a poor man's torture gardens. .

And as for the beds .. shocking

Yet.to find one person that enjoyed ff for friends we knew

Best to stick to the elite parties ... made worse that the organisers were nt there all night and more interested in running another private party at same time

Had so much potential .

Who cares about records .. you should care about the service and value for money you give

"

Indeed, the co-promoters of this actually attempted to bill as a "Torture Garden" event .. Until they were reminded of the protected nature of that franchise and associated events ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did well by not going it seems.Didn't even go to a swinger club but normal club night for me Friday

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By *rHornyGentMan
over a year ago

South East London


"Looking at the OP's profile seems that if you head to Effrenata you might grab them for your refund.

Shame it was didn't turn out the way people expected. A world record attempt sounded like it was something the North Koreans would do. Synchronised flag waving and shagging!

If the service wasn't provided I think you'll find the price at £85 was pitched just below the credit card company usual £100 limit for these type of refunds.

Let us know if anyone gets their money back this way.

MHG - peace & love

The OP was only a DJ at the event he didn't organise it. "

Thanks for clarifying xx

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By *rHornyGentMan
over a year ago

South East London

Then again as others have said, the OP has questions to answer. If he knows where the organisers are then he should say. I wonder if you got paid for your set?

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By *he DoudousCouple
over a year ago

London Kilburn

What we are pissed about is not really for party itself. We haven't realised on the night that few things were missing such as candy floss, snake etc.. The music was excellent and the shows were rather good. The dungeons were great a the pet zoo was something to see !!

We know Chris (who is good at orgasing smaller scale HS parties ) and we felt there was a real effort to please, to make a great party but we think the main issue is first people had rather high expectations and second, the venue was way too big and we think Chris' team got overwhelmed with the management of such space. .

1St, filling the Coronet is a massive challenge hence the double party booking at £15 which was a joke indeed. We have been shocked to read the complaints and learn there was a double party booking with these daddy's kids whom obviously did not have anything to do with the swinging scene.

2nd, we met few newbies and for a 1st experience, no wonder some got scared with the lack of privacy and security taking photos and grabbing bums etc..

Feeling safe at a swinging event is crucial and the number 1 rule. These would have never happened at a TG party as we guess they have their own staff. Chris should have hired his own people or moderators to remind people of the privacy rules through the night. But again, we haven't experienced such attitude on the night so we can't personally comment.

But what we are pisse off about is the cancellation (by email) at 3.02 am of the after party. Due to the lack of privacy and intimacy on the first and second floors, we haven't played at all, "saving ourselves" for the after party. We left at 3am ready to get to the SW1 venue. I mean leaving, with NO COMING BACK ALLOWED AT THE VENUE.

A close friend of his called him and we found out that the party was cancelled as "for x reasons, the landlord had changed his mind".

Without the possibility to return back to the venue, with nowhere else to go (all swingers clubs had closed), we got home alone, horny, frustrated and rather pissed off - moreover we had paid £37 for this after party which never happened.

Hopefully we would get our MONEY BACK for the after party?!

The doudous

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What we are pissed about is not really for party itself. We haven't realised on the night that few things were missing such as candy floss, snake etc.. The music was excellent and the shows were rather good. The dungeons were great a the pet zoo was something to see !!

We know Chris (who is good at orgasing smaller scale HS parties ) and we felt there was a real effort to please, to make a great party but we think the main issue is first people had rather high expectations and second, the venue was way too big and we think Chris' team got overwhelmed with the management of such space. .

1St, filling the Coronet is a massive challenge hence the double party booking at £15 which was a joke indeed. We have been shocked to read the complaints and learn there was a double party booking with these daddy's kids whom obviously did not have anything to do with the swinging scene.

2nd, we met few newbies and for a 1st experience, no wonder some got scared with the lack of privacy and security taking photos and grabbing bums etc..

Feeling safe at a swinging event is crucial and the number 1 rule. These would have never happened at a TG party as we guess they have their own staff. Chris should have hired his own people or moderators to remind people of the privacy rules through the night. But again, we haven't experienced such attitude on the night so we can't personally comment.

But what we are pisse off about is the cancellation (by email) at 3.02 am of the after party. Due to the lack of privacy and intimacy on the first and second floors, we haven't played at all, "saving ourselves" for the after party. We left at 3am ready to get to the SW1 venue. I mean leaving, with NO COMING BACK ALLOWED AT THE VENUE.

A close friend of his called him and we found out that the party was cancelled as "for x reasons, the landlord had changed his mind".

Without the possibility to return back to the venue, with nowhere else to go (all swingers clubs had closed), we got home alone, horny, frustrated and rather pissed off - moreover we had paid £37 for this after party which never happened.

Hopefully we would get our MONEY BACK for the after party?!

The doudous

Having spent the entire night/ morning there, I'm afraid I disagree.

Nothing was as advertised. NOTHING. Nearly every single solitary thing advertised was missing - with no explanations given.

Seems to me his only intention was to mislead people, and take their money.

Lesson learned. An inexpensive one really but one that amounts to a tidy little sum of money for Chris, and presumably Lauren. Aswell as whoever else was in on it."

I think I would agree, You would have expected someone with a high profile to address the issues and not go into hiding. When you have security taking pictures and videos you are giving the green light to everyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What we are pissed about is not really for party itself. We haven't realised on the night that few things were missing such as candy floss, snake etc.. The music was excellent and the shows were rather good. The dungeons were great a the pet zoo was something to see !!

We know Chris (who is good at orgasing smaller scale HS parties ) and we felt there was a real effort to please, to make a great party but we think the main issue is first people had rather high expectations and second, the venue was way too big and we think Chris' team got overwhelmed with the management of such space. .

1St, filling the Coronet is a massive challenge hence the double party booking at £15 which was a joke indeed. We have been shocked to read the complaints and learn there was a double party booking with these daddy's kids whom obviously did not have anything to do with the swinging scene.

2nd, we met few newbies and for a 1st experience, no wonder some got scared with the lack of privacy and security taking photos and grabbing bums etc..

Feeling safe at a swinging event is crucial and the number 1 rule. These would have never happened at a TG party as we guess they have their own staff. Chris should have hired his own people or moderators to remind people of the privacy rules through the night. But again, we haven't experienced such attitude on the night so we can't personally comment.

But what we are pisse off about is the cancellation (by email) at 3.02 am of the after party. Due to the lack of privacy and intimacy on the first and second floors, we haven't played at all, "saving ourselves" for the after party. We left at 3am ready to get to the SW1 venue. I mean leaving, with NO COMING BACK ALLOWED AT THE VENUE.

A close friend of his called him and we found out that the party was cancelled as "for x reasons, the landlord had changed his mind".

Without the possibility to return back to the venue, with nowhere else to go (all swingers clubs had closed), we got home alone, horny, frustrated and rather pissed off - moreover we had paid £37 for this after party which never happened.

Hopefully we would get our MONEY BACK for the after party?!

The doudous

"

Having spent the entire deceitful, night/morning there, I'm afraid I disagree.

Almost NOTHING was as advertised. Nearly every single solitary thing advertised was missing - with no explanations given.

Seems to me his only intention was to mislead people, and take their money. Probably throwing good events in the past was part of the plan. To build people's trust, and some sort of reputation in order to make people feel comfortable enough to purchase tickets for Friday's sham debacle.

Lesson learned. An inexpensive one really but one that amounts to a tidy little sum of money for Chris, and presumably Lauren. Aswell as whoever else was in on it.

Karma is a bitch, and I hope she wears heels when kicking their collective arses.

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By *he DoudousCouple
over a year ago

London Kilburn

Hope he will get back with an explanation, then.

Good luck to us all)

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"Lesson learned. An inexpensive one really..."

Inexpensive?????

85 quid for a couples ticket, plus 37 quid for an "after party" ticket that was cancelled?

I don't know about you, but £122 plus travel and other expenses is certainly not "inexpensive".

Lets flip this on its head... how much did he make out of it?

Its claimed there were over 4oo couples, so there's in excess of 34 grand to start with probably more than 10 grand in singlies tickets fees too, then there's a potential of maybe 300+ (I'm guessing the after party would be much smaller) so say 5 grand..... plus the bar takings.... got to be around 60 grand in total!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Lesson learned. An inexpensive one really..."

Inexpensive?????

85 quid for a couples ticket, plus 37 quid for an "after party" ticket that was cancelled?

I don't know about you, but £122 plus travel and other expenses is certainly not "inexpensive".

Lets flip this on its head... how much did he make out of it?

Its claimed there were over 4oo couples, so there's in excess of 34 grand to start with probably more than 10 grand in singlies tickets fees too, then there's a potential of maybe 300+ (I'm guessing the after party would be much smaller) so say 5 grand..... plus the bar takings.... got to be around 60 grand in total!!! "

I dont think there was 400 couples and 200 single girls paying the higher price. I bet you that 50% of that was the cheaper tickets at £15.. Its a good way to promote a event but never tell us about it. I thought everyone in the venue was a swinger or testing the water. When I saw a couple of celebs at the place I did wonder why. lol the last few days the cheap £15 tickets turned to £10 tickets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We spent £85 on the tickets, £70 in drinks, £40 in fuel, £200 plus the money for the outfits etc. not inexpensive?? I bet there will be others paying more then that.

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London


"What we are pissed about is not really for party itself. We haven't realised on the night that few things were missing such as candy floss, snake etc.. The music was excellent and the shows were rather good. The dungeons were great a the pet zoo was something to see !!

We know Chris (who is good at orgasing smaller scale HS parties ) and we felt there was a real effort to please, to make a great party but we think the main issue is first people had rather high expectations and second, the venue was way too big and we think Chris' team got overwhelmed with the management of such space. .

1St, filling the Coronet is a massive challenge hence the double party booking at £15 which was a joke indeed. We have been shocked to read the complaints and learn there was a double party booking with these daddy's kids whom obviously did not have anything to do with the swinging scene.

2nd, we met few newbies and for a 1st experience, no wonder some got scared with the lack of privacy and security taking photos and grabbing bums etc..

Feeling safe at a swinging event is crucial and the number 1 rule. These would have never happened at a TG party as we guess they have their own staff. Chris should have hired his own people or moderators to remind people of the privacy rules through the night. But again, we haven't experienced such attitude on the night so we can't personally comment.

But what we are pisse off about is the cancellation (by email) at 3.02 am of the after party. Due to the lack of privacy and intimacy on the first and second floors, we haven't played at all, "saving ourselves" for the after party. We left at 3am ready to get to the SW1 venue. I mean leaving, with NO COMING BACK ALLOWED AT THE VENUE.

A close friend of his called him and we found out that the party was cancelled as "for x reasons, the landlord had changed his mind".

Without the possibility to return back to the venue, with nowhere else to go (all swingers clubs had closed), we got home alone, horny, frustrated and rather pissed off - moreover we had paid £37 for this after party which never happened.

Hopefully we would get our MONEY BACK for the after party?!

The doudous

"

The reason why the after party never happened was because Chris sprang it on the owner of the apartment in Mayfair last minute and the owner already had an after party booked for a vanilla night club. Hence not being able to accommodate two types of parties. I was able to get a group of my friends upstairs and a couple I just met (who would be stranded in London till the supposed end of the after party)because I know the owner. Chris' girlfriend, not Lauren, was there for a good 10 mins before leaving to never return. And Chris was a no show till after 7am when he just called to assess the situation. Not really taking responsibility for his mistake and owning up to his fault. I honestly think they had an after party somewhere else.

Not really cool. As an organiser who had been "planning" for months he should have taken that into consideration and had alternative options.

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By *renchieeeWoman
over a year ago

Surrey and West London

The worst party I went to by far, all that was promised was not there!!! No style, nothing special about it at all...it was quite empty too, TG can fill this space and decorate it as a boudoir, they can't organise a party it seems ....Heavencircle did such a bad job at it....for the price they were charging, that is incredible!!!

The toilets stunk like urine, the smell was so strong, even near the bar, the decor was inexistent, people were taking pictures which I complained serval times about without any results.... My breasts were grabbed several times like that without consent???

I could go on and on about it....only good thing is I saw a fabfriend I had not seen for a while....

Don't waste money and time there!!

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By *lack Shoe Red SoulCouple
over a year ago

North Hampshire


"Not sure why you quoted my post as I have nothing to do with either events organisers! I was just posting in answer to the Effrenata mention

ohh ok"

In the words of him indoors "dick!"

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

Sounds rather hellish...glad I didn't even make enquiries!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All sounds utterly horrendous, I'm rather glad I didn't head South now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Lesson learned. An inexpensive one really..."

Inexpensive?????

85 quid for a couples ticket, plus 37 quid for an "after party" ticket that was cancelled?

I don't know about you, but £122 plus travel and other expenses is certainly not "inexpensive".

Lets flip this on its head... how much did he make out of it?

Its claimed there were over 4oo couples, so there's in excess of 34 grand to start with probably more than 10 grand in singlies tickets fees too, then there's a potential of maybe 300+ (I'm guessing the after party would be much smaller) so say 5 grand..... plus the bar takings.... got to be around 60 grand in total!!! "

By inexpensive, I meant it didn't include flights, etc. Not that it was a negligible sum of money. Just that it's what could have - could have been spent on a normal night out in London. Although I can't say I see Elephant and Castle as a going out area!

Also, since our money is the same place as Chris's morals - disappeared, I was trying to put some perspective on what we have lost.

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman
over a year ago

essex just looking around


"Some absolutely stunning people there. I agree with the comments. The venue was just like a warehouse! I did have fun on the bouncy castle though. "

yes til 5 buncer rudley came and threw us off saying no sex on bouncy castle.. no one was having actual sex and the sign merely said remove shoes !!

and tbh there was a mix of looks and sizes but mainly a fetish crowd .

the dungeon and petting zoo ( WHY ?? it was a sex party) the petting zoo didnt mix withnight but the Dom mistress was lovely and very good controller x

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman
over a year ago

essex just looking around


"Would never visit one of them partys again, he dont now how to run one.. where was the foam.. where was the candyfloss.. everything was late. security a joke.. only thing that was good was the music.. anyone else reckon the drinks were watered down?"

sorry reading the threads and replying

i have a low intolerance to vodka normally 3 drinks and ill pass out ... drank vodka cranberry all night no effect !!!

Who knows xx

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman
over a year ago

essex just looking around


"If you look at the flyer on twitter for this it was sponsored by VA so perhaps they might have some answers ??"

the owners of VA werent there.. no Holiday i believe !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel i have to pick up on ONE thing people are slating which is the fact there was no acts they were promised.

My partner and i had been hired to do a rope bondage show which we got told would be on the main stage.

We worked day and night for 4 days making our own tron costumes and spent well over 200 pounds for it all. Not to mention the petrol into london, parking and two 10-15 pounds taxi rides to and from the coronet.

We got there finally but no one had any idea where we needed to go. No one knew anything. We ended up dressing in the closed off dungeon. We were supposed to perform once at 10.30 and again at 1.30...well we never got the 10.45 one as when we went to get on stage we got told we weren't allowed. We found out after that was because he hadn't done his big opening performance. All the performers were there well most of them the only reason you can't remember is cause they got about 30 seconds each before him and that was it. No one communicated that we had to be on the stage etc. We were livid. We had been so excited at this opportunity and we'd put in a lot of time, effort and care to get it right. As soon as the upstairs opened everyone disappeared so as a performer there was no point performing to an empty dance floor so i give the performers kudos for not doing so. How awful for the djs playing music to about 5 people it's an insult to them and their work as it was to us.

We managed to do our performance we got up on our own accord and we showed many people our delightful show. Just a shame we weren't given what we were promised...

I just wanted to clear up it wasnt the performers fault they didnt perform. Once again we were left out of the loop and was promised but not delivered. I'm annoyed, not because of the money we have spent but because of the oppurtunity that was dangled in our face then snatched away.

Well we did it anyway and it felt amazing on stage. A real confidence boost for us both. Thank you for the lovely comments after our show. If you didnt see it well we know where you were lol upstairs getting hot lol. We will always say yes again but we will make sure communication is much better. We dont want a lost oppurtunity like that again.

Also never got into the after party which was a real shame. We thought we would be allowed to that but things changed.

Still an ok night had. Hopefully lessons will be learnt from this so next time can be a much more positive experience for all.

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman
over a year ago

essex just looking around


"It was NOT sponsored by U.S. the VA.

They gave away some tickets at our festival and advertised that they would be doing so, we have no affiliation or stakes in the event.

The only events we are ever involved in in promoting are the ones on our website"

I believe there was a link saying sponsored by VA and that was mentioned throughout the night/..

Thats a real shame as VA certainly does deliver and doesnt deserve to be tarred with same brush x

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman
over a year ago

essex just looking around


"I feel i have to pick up on ONE thing people are slating which is the fact there was no acts they were promised.

My partner and i had been hired to do a rope bondage show which we got told would be on the main stage.

We worked day and night for 4 days making our own tron costumes and spent well over 200 pounds for it all. Not to mention the petrol into london, parking and two 10-15 pounds taxi rides to and from the coronet.

We got there finally but no one had any idea where we needed to go. No one knew anything. We ended up dressing in the closed off dungeon. We were supposed to perform once at 10.30 and again at 1.30...well we never got the 10.45 one as when we went to get on stage we got told we weren't allowed. We found out after that was because he hadn't done his big opening performance. All the performers were there well most of them the only reason you can't remember is cause they got about 30 seconds each before him and that was it. No one communicated that we had to be on the stage etc. We were livid. We had been so excited at this opportunity and we'd put in a lot of time, effort and care to get it right. As soon as the upstairs opened everyone disappeared so as a performer there was no point performing to an empty dance floor so i give the performers kudos for not doing so. How awful for the djs playing music to about 5 people it's an insult to them and their work as it was to us.

We managed to do our performance we got up on our own accord and we showed many people our delightful show. Just a shame we weren't given what we were promised...

I just wanted to clear up it wasnt the performers fault they didnt perform. Once again we were left out of the loop and was promised but not delivered. I'm annoyed, not because of the money we have spent but because of the oppurtunity that was dangled in our face then snatched away.

Well we did it anyway and it felt amazing on stage. A real confidence boost for us both. Thank you for the lovely comments after our show. If you didnt see it well we know where you were lol upstairs getting hot lol. We will always say yes again but we will make sure communication is much better. We dont want a lost oppurtunity like that again.

Also never got into the after party which was a real shame. We thought we would be allowed to that but things changed.

Still an ok night had. Hopefully lessons will be learnt from this so next time can be a much more positive experience for all."

PROBABLY one of the saddest feeds on this link ;0((

Explains a lot and sorry we missed your act..

MY gut said before heres hardly ever any verifications after their parties... Now I know why .xx..

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London


"I feel i have to pick up on ONE thing people are slating which is the fact there was no acts they were promised.

My partner and i had been hired to do a rope bondage show which we got told would be on the main stage.

We worked day and night for 4 days making our own tron costumes and spent well over 200 pounds for it all. Not to mention the petrol into london, parking and two 10-15 pounds taxi rides to and from the coronet.

We got there finally but no one had any idea where we needed to go. No one knew anything. We ended up dressing in the closed off dungeon. We were supposed to perform once at 10.30 and again at 1.30...well we never got the 10.45 one as when we went to get on stage we got told we weren't allowed. We found out after that was because he hadn't done his big opening performance. All the performers were there well most of them the only reason you can't remember is cause they got about 30 seconds each before him and that was it. No one communicated that we had to be on the stage etc. We were livid. We had been so excited at this opportunity and we'd put in a lot of time, effort and care to get it right. As soon as the upstairs opened everyone disappeared so as a performer there was no point performing to an empty dance floor so i give the performers kudos for not doing so. How awful for the djs playing music to about 5 people it's an insult to them and their work as it was to us.

We managed to do our performance we got up on our own accord and we showed many people our delightful show. Just a shame we weren't given what we were promised...

I just wanted to clear up it wasnt the performers fault they didnt perform. Once again we were left out of the loop and was promised but not delivered. I'm annoyed, not because of the money we have spent but because of the oppurtunity that was dangled in our face then snatched away.

Well we did it anyway and it felt amazing on stage. A real confidence boost for us both. Thank you for the lovely comments after our show. If you didnt see it well we know where you were lol upstairs getting hot lol. We will always say yes again but we will make sure communication is much better. We dont want a lost oppurtunity like that again.

Also never got into the after party which was a real shame. We thought we would be allowed to that but things changed.

Still an ok night had. Hopefully lessons will be learnt from this so next time can be a much more positive experience for all."

Owww I do remember seeing you both in your outfits. Very impressive xx

Only upside I feel is that lots of party goers made bundles of effort to fit in with the supposed theme.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

What gets me is that there are several people on this and other related threads that say that they have been before, two said it didn't live up to the hype last time and they left feeling let down, but they went again........... begs the question, wtf are you doing paying again if it was shite last time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What gets me is that there are several people on this and other related threads that say that they have been before, two said it didn't live up to the hype last time and they left feeling let down, but they went again........... begs the question, wtf are you doing paying again if it was shite last time? "

This

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By *anzellMan
over a year ago

Essex

Chris you silly, silly boy...What has happend to you...Been hanging around the 'Lord' too much possibly?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"What gets me is that there are several people on this and other related threads that say that they have been before, two said it didn't live up to the hype last time and they left feeling let down, but they went again........... begs the question, wtf are you doing paying again if it was shite last time?

This "

Yes, I was interested in this too - why go again? Or is the lure of being part of the elite just too much?

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London


"What gets me is that there are several people on this and other related threads that say that they have been before, two said it didn't live up to the hype last time and they left feeling let down, but they went again........... begs the question, wtf are you doing paying again if it was shite last time?

This "

Firstly the last one was in a mansion that is well known for celebrity parties and events and had been a location for music videos and films. It had character (in my opinion), the crowd wasn't as many as projected last time and the after party went ahead as it was held at the same venue.

Secondly because of the amount of people from fab going it seemed like a great event to see old friends and make new friends alike.

The environment didn't feel like a safe place to play for a lot of people.

Due to the promotion of this event which boasted to be bigger and grander I had expected more.. I guess not

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By *or your considerationMan
over a year ago

Near Bluewater


"Did anyone goto the "after party" that also cost £35.. was sold out before we could get a ticket. Maybe that was a bit better? we left about 2am and I would say 50% of the people had left by then. The guy who runs it was on stage at 12.30 doing some wierd dance thing and after that never saw him again. so maybe he left too..

However did anyone get a envelope that was to be giving out to selective couples? or was that fake too "

I saw him. He was changing the sheets in the larger of the two play rooms. When the 'ringmaster' is making the beds you know something isn't quite right!

Personally I think he blew his budget on his self Indulgent appearance on stage

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

Yup. Got that email too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not very impressed at all !

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London


"Not very impressed at all ! "

It took him and his team all weekend to come up with that message... It was, as someone had just told me privately, more a justification rather than an apology. And the social being free? No. I'd rather have my refund thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah , we agree with both statements.

Even a partial refund would suffice .


"

It took him and his team all weekend to come up with that message... It was, as someone had just told me privately, more a justification rather than an apology. And the social being free? No. I'd rather have my refund thanks. "

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola

Yep got it too but still want my money back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep got it too but still want my money back."

We want our money back to.. We decided never to goto any of his party's or whatever you want to call them again.

He didnt even adress the issues that people have made.

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By *ebedeedoodahMan
over a year ago

Greenford


"Sounds like everyone's been scammed from what I've read

You have 20/20 vision "

Moderator has closed my thread. As this seems to be main one :S xXx

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By *iss kitty glosWoman
over a year ago

gloucester

It sounds like it all went a bit effrensta

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

The way to help stop this happening again is for as many people as possible to do a chargeback if they paid for the tickets by card. You didn't get what you paid for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We totally agree with all the negative comments.. it was CRAP!, so dis organised it was untrue.. no single guys on floor 1 ans 2.. yer.. loads of them were let in !

A lot of very attractive people made a fantastic effort... shame the organisers didnt !

they should be considering some form of refund..

We would suggest that nobody bothers with the next one... total waste of money!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I read sounds so badly run and bit of a scam don't think their business will last as all bad press and reviews sounds well over priced. I had a friend go she did put with 1 guy but the couple she went with were not alowed to go to did floor with her so that all left and went back and had a much better

MFF at her friends place. Shame well someone made some money it sounds like not good.!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The entire bullcrap email has an arrogant tone the whole way through.

Nothing but thanking God knows who praised them for the event but NO apologies for those of us who were let down. (Let down, as in - lied to and ripped off).

IF people really did email saying they enjoyed it, who wants to bet it was the £15 ticket attendees, and teenage boys who were in some kind of parallel universe - seeing all the flesh on display and tiny amount of play that happened?

"The difference between our Heaven SX / Heaven Soiree brands and our newest brand Heaven Circus is colossal"

I read that as, "don't expect quality for our level one, no vetting/criteria - other than whether or not you can pay for a ticket"

Totally missing the point. You didn't do what you said you would. The "level" of your event is neither here nor there.

The email also mentions that it's their newest brand. Another irrelevant cop out. Since one was held before - which I still think was purely to dupe those of us who were first time attendees on Friday into paying to come along.

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over a year ago


"The entire bullcrap email has an arrogant tone the whole way through.

Nothing but thanking God knows who praised them for the event but NO apologies for those of us who were let down. (Let down, as in - lied to and ripped off).

IF people really did email saying they enjoyed it, who wants to bet it was the £15 ticket attendees, and teenage boys who were in some kind of parallel universe - seeing all the flesh on display and tiny amount of play that happened?

"The difference between our Heaven SX / Heaven Soiree brands and our newest brand Heaven Circus is colossal"

I read that as, "don't expect quality for our level one, no vetting/criteria - other than whether or not you can pay for a ticket"

Totally missing the point. You didn't do what you said you would. The "level" of your event is neither here nor there.

The email also mentions that it's their newest brand. Another irrelevant cop out. Since one was held before - which I still think was purely to dupe those of us who were first time attendees on Friday into paying to come along.

"

And of course, we'd love to come to your exclusive event. Cos you're really gonna turn up to meet a load of any former guests aren't you

Of course you aren't. You'll either do nothing, or send someone else on your behalf - since you're the face of the brand. You know people won't take out their frustrations on a representative when they really want you. Will probably be some poor young person he pays a few hundred quid too, to turn up at a bar and tick names off a list/tickets/etc. They won't have been briefed in the true nature (OBVIOUSLY!). And he will be anywhere but there, enjoying the bar owner knowing that people have arrived for a bar spend. As there is no mention of free drinks. Only free attendance.

Then again, I cannot think of anyone who actually would turn up.

Muggins here won't be, that's for dammed sure!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I know the E-mail probably wasn't sent on here but it had details in it that are not allowed on the forum so I have removed the post.

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By *ougarsandcubsWoman
over a year ago

Medway

Omg got this today through EventBrite from heaven circus.. Are they totally disillusioned

My answers by each excuse in capitals

No More Single Guys

We tried to please everyone having certain allocated areas. However when we choose to do another Heaven Circus there will be no more single guys. We wish to keep things simple and this event will now only be for couples and single girls only like Heaven SX and Heaven Soiree.

NO MORE SINGLE GUYS ? WERENT THERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE 80 TICKETS SOLD... NOT MANY IN THE 1200 MIX !!! the guys were not the probably .. selling cheap tickets to those off street was

No more "Three parties in one"

Again we tried to please everyone having certain allocated areas. However when we choose to do another Heaven Circus, we wish to keep things simple and there will only be swingers invited with some fetish equipment and no "dance only party"

AGAIN TOTALLY WRONG ... YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN WALKING AROUND AND MIXING WITH US LAY PEOPLE TO SEE EVERYONE ONE WAS CHATTING AND MIXING WELL .. THE MUTUAL BOND WAS OUR SHOCK AND DISAPPOINTMENT AND THE ORGANISERS FAILURE TO DELIVER

Space

If we do decide to use the Coronet Theatre again after a talk about certain security members we would be placing beds on the dance floor to make use of more space and create a party that is more spread out

MMMM YOU OBVIOUSLY NEVER WORKED IN JOBS OR AREAS WHERE LARGE NUMBER ATTEND ... A VENUE LIKE THAT WILL SWALLOW 1000 EASILY AND YOU D ALSO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH PREPAID TICKETS AT LEAST 15% MAY NOT EVEN SHOW... AGAIN POOR KNOWLEDGE AND MANAGEMENT

Do we use a pubic venue again

Due to the a mount of people we had arrive at the party we decided to hire a public venue which automatically took many things out of our control. A meeting will be held today regarding if we do this again and if so what actions we put in place to take many things back into our control, most importantly security.

BAD WORKMAN ALWAYS BLAMES HIS TOOLS.. GOD HELP US ALL IF THEY DID THEIR OWN SECURITY BASED ON THE REST

Trying to do too much

In life, rarely do things go to plan. We tried so hard to provide so much that it was inevitable that some things would not go to plan. Staff not showing up, companies not delivering until after the party, the list goes on. In future we shall not state what to expect so that we can manage expectations and all on the night shall be a surprise.

STAFF NOT SHOWING UP ... AND NOT DELIVERING ... DID THEY NEED PAYING ... OR WERE THEY MISSOLD TOO ?... one company , odd staff maybe .. so many .? More excuses

After party at a separate venue

We shall never do an after party at a separate venue. We had an issue with the after party venue which took us an hour to solve. Should the after party been at the same venue we could have solved this quick er. This will not happen again and all who bought tickets for the after party will be contacted.

THE MINUTE THAT EMAIL CAME THRU I KNEW IT WOULD BE A DIASTER TOO LATE TO CANCEL .. WHAT ORGANISER LEAVES THEIR OWN EVENT HALF WAY THRU ... TO HAVE THEIR OWN FUN AS THEY WROTE ..,,, A BAD ONE

Do we continue to do another open event

We want your feedback on this. We have become well known for spending hours looking through photos to invite those with an average age under 35 and pass our photo application process to Heaven SX (for just over 100 per party) and then from Heaven SX inviting the hottest to attend Heaven Soiree (26 attendees per party)

Due to being called elitist we wanted to do a party for everyone and very quickly the numbers rose to over 1,000 for Heaven Circus.

On the one hand we really love the idea of an open party. A way to socialise, enjoy performances and either play at the venue or select who you like and take them home.

On the other hand the party is a one off (once or twice a year) and is nothing like Heaven SX or Heaven Soiree, which is our core business.

We would like to hear your feedback on whether we should continue the occasional open party or whether we should stick to our selection only parties.

Thank you and please keep the feedback coming, we shall reply to any emails later today after our meeting.

Kindest Regards,

Heaven.

THA AINT EVEN WORTH RESPONDING ... TOTAL BLAME TO OTHERS ..

I HAVE REQUESTED A REFUND ... INTERESTING TO SEE IF I GET IT AND WILL NEVER ATTEND AN EVENT RUN BY THEM AGAIN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anybody asked them why when they are blaming security staff the same issues don't arise when TG is at the Coronet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heaven Circle, it's very simple you should cut the excuses and refund everyone and take the hit. You didn't provide what you said would be at the event. No more excuses and return the money back to everyone. This is a disaster for your brand now. I doubt people want to go to another event and even if it was free.

People paid for an after party and was cancelled that should have been refunded instantly.

I don't want excuses. I want the money back!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Omg got this today through EventBrite from heaven circus.. Are they totally disillusioned

My answers by each excuse in capitals

No More Single Guys

We tried to please everyone having certain allocated areas. However when we choose to do another Heaven Circus there will be no more single guys. We wish to keep things simple and this event will now only be for couples and single girls only like Heaven SX and Heaven Soiree.

NO MORE SINGLE GUYS ? WERENT THERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE 80 TICKETS SOLD... NOT MANY IN THE 1200 MIX !!! the guys were not the probably .. selling cheap tickets to those off street was

No more "Three parties in one"

Again we tried to please everyone having certain allocated areas. However when we choose to do another Heaven Circus, we wish to keep things simple and there will only be swingers invited with some fetish equipment and no "dance only party"

AGAIN TOTALLY WRONG ... YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN WALKING AROUND AND MIXING WITH US LAY PEOPLE TO SEE EVERYONE ONE WAS CHATTING AND MIXING WELL .. THE MUTUAL BOND WAS OUR SHOCK AND DISAPPOINTMENT AND THE ORGANISERS FAILURE TO DELIVER

Space

If we do decide to use the Coronet Theatre again after a talk about certain security members we would be placing beds on the dance floor to make use of more space and create a party that is more spread out

MMMM YOU OBVIOUSLY NEVER WORKED IN JOBS OR AREAS WHERE LARGE NUMBER ATTEND ... A VENUE LIKE THAT WILL SWALLOW 1000 EASILY AND YOU D ALSO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH PREPAID TICKETS AT LEAST 15% MAY NOT EVEN SHOW... AGAIN POOR KNOWLEDGE AND MANAGEMENT

Do we use a pubic venue again

Due to the a mount of people we had arrive at the party we decided to hire a public venue which automatically took many things out of our control. A meeting will be held today regarding if we do this again and if so what actions we put in place to take many things back into our control, most importantly security.

BAD WORKMAN ALWAYS BLAMES HIS TOOLS.. GOD HELP US ALL IF THEY DID THEIR OWN SECURITY BASED ON THE REST

Trying to do too much

In life, rarely do things go to plan. We tried so hard to provide so much that it was inevitable that some things would not go to plan. Staff not showing up, companies not delivering until after the party, the list goes on. In future we shall not state what to expect so that we can manage expectations and all on the night shall be a surprise.

STAFF NOT SHOWING UP ... AND NOT DELIVERING ... DID THEY NEED PAYING ... OR WERE THEY MISSOLD TOO ?... one company , odd staff maybe .. so many .? More excuses

After party at a separate venue

We shall never do an after party at a separate venue. We had an issue with the after party venue which took us an hour to solve. Should the after party been at the same venue we could have solved this quick er. This will not happen again and all who bought tickets for the after party will be contacted.

THE MINUTE THAT EMAIL CAME THRU I KNEW IT WOULD BE A DIASTER TOO LATE TO CANCEL .. WHAT ORGANISER LEAVES THEIR OWN EVENT HALF WAY THRU ... TO HAVE THEIR OWN FUN AS THEY WROTE ..,,, A BAD ONE

Do we continue to do another open event

We want your feedback on this. We have become well known for spending hours looking through photos to invite those with an average age under 35 and pass our photo application process to Heaven SX (for just over 100 per party) and then from Heaven SX inviting the hottest to attend Heaven Soiree (26 attendees per party)

Due to being called elitist we wanted to do a party for everyone and very quickly the numbers rose to over 1,000 for Heaven Circus.

On the one hand we really love the idea of an open party. A way to socialise, enjoy performances and either play at the venue or select who you like and take them home.

On the other hand the party is a one off (once or twice a year) and is nothing like Heaven SX or Heaven Soiree, which is our core business.

We would like to hear your feedback on whether we should continue the occasional open party or whether we should stick to our selection only parties.

Thank you and please keep the feedback coming, we shall reply to any emails later today after our meeting.

Kindest Regards,

Heaven.

THA AINT EVEN WORTH RESPONDING ... TOTAL BLAME TO OTHERS ..

I HAVE REQUESTED A REFUND ... INTERESTING TO SEE IF I GET IT AND WILL NEVER ATTEND AN EVENT RUN BY THEM AGAIN "

Basically. They sent the first email - thinking people would be too embarrassed to request refunds but that was not the case.

So they sent arrogant bullcrap email number two. Once again, stating that they can only be arsed to put effort into their top level parties, and we should be grateful we were "allowed" to attend on Friday. Last time I checked - I paid for that "privilege"

So now, there's a new thing. Saying if they hold another Heaven Circus, they'll promise nothing - so they can't be moaned at for not providing what was stated. Go right ahead dude. Cos people will really buy tickets if you advertise/promise nothing.

So you are going to hold another one and promise nothing or you're going to stick to the other events you run?

Contradiction much?

The only things I suggest you run are as follows:

Run your supposedly good reputation into the ground.

Run after wherever your morals, and common sense have gone. That's assuming you had any in the first place of course.

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By *4STYWoman
over a year ago

Luanda/Angola

It's ridiculous the arrogance it's shown in the e-mails. She refund whoever asked for refund and loody apologise. Can't he just be humble at least once in his life?!?!

I think the success in the other parties went to his head and he thought he could take TO place. Like he was going to be the king of fetish, swinging and clubbing. Yeah right. You got a lot to learn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rule number 1.. never run a party based on money. If you make a profit then that's a bonus. And never ever let the people down. Lots of long memories and the Internet never forgets! We don't mind spending if we get what we pay for, being taken for a mug is quite different!

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

As has been stated in previous posts, the best way to register your displeasure is to pursue a full refund through whichever channels are appropriate, getting emails basically saying "we tried to pull it off a second time and failed again, but we will do better next time" is in my opinion, just arrogant.

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

Well I think Chris's wallet is now as big as his ego. a little bit of humility in dealing with this matter would not go amiss Chris, and you might, and it is a huge might,earn a bit of kudos in doing so.

Remember you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all of the time.

If I was you I would stick to your "core business" as you call it. That's if you have one left after this, as it is plain to see you do have the abilly or maturity to play and party with the big boys.

Remember the saying fellow swingers "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

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