FabSwingers.com mobile

Join us FREE, we're FREE to use

Web's largest swingers site since 2006.

Already registered?
Login here

Back to forum list
Back to Swinging Club Discussion

key parties. have to fuck whoever chooses your keys

Jump to newest
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't think you will find many, that is a bit 70's style established groups where everyone is happy to fuck everyone else it can work, but as a new people type gathering these days I doubt it.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

From what ive read on here most people don't play with those they don't find attractive so unless you manage to get everyone to approve everyone else before it starts you're gonna have trouble

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Don't think you will find many, that is a bit 70's style established groups where everyone is happy to fuck everyone else it can work, but as a new people type gathering these days I doubt it."

I know what you mean. Swingers can be very insular nowadays and really arent swingers in the true sense. I think it would be liberating for people, btw I didnt mean established groups would take part. In fact it would only be for people who didnt know each other. After work parties.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"Don't think you will find many, that is a bit 70's style established groups where everyone is happy to fuck everyone else it can work, but as a new people type gathering these days I doubt it.

I know what you mean. Swingers can be very insular nowadays and really arent swingers in the true sense. I think it would be liberating for people, btw I didnt mean established groups would take part. In fact it would only be for people who didnt know each other. After work parties. "

i don't remember ever seeing a description of swingers that said 'will fuck anything'

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Don't think you will find many, that is a bit 70's style established groups where everyone is happy to fuck everyone else it can work, but as a new people type gathering these days I doubt it.

I know what you mean. Swingers can be very insular nowadays and really arent swingers in the true sense. I think it would be liberating for people, btw I didnt mean established groups would take part. In fact it would only be for people who didnt know each other. After work parties.

i don't remember ever seeing a description of swingers that said 'will fuck anything' "

There were similar parties in London a few tears ago where a place was booked for the evening and equal numbers of men and women turned up.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The people invited would have to be presentable ofcourse. I think swinging has become full of pretentious schoolyard jealousies. Its more like a dating game than alternative lifestyle. Nothing remotely alternative about too many "swingers" now.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I wouldn't play with just anyone that is not what swinging is about.

I'm pretty sure car key parties are just a myth. I have never heard of anyone actually having taken part in one.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not pretentious to not want to fuck anything that moves.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I wouldn't play with just anyone that is not what swinging is about.

I'm pretty sure car key parties are just a myth. I have never heard of anyone actually having taken part in one."

They did happen, its true they were in the late 80's. It just takes the pressure of people to get laid. Im sure youve been to patties where the guys were all after a few girls and the whole atmosphere was soured.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"Don't think you will find many, that is a bit 70's style established groups where everyone is happy to fuck everyone else it can work, but as a new people type gathering these days I doubt it.

I know what you mean. Swingers can be very insular nowadays and really arent swingers in the true sense. I think it would be liberating for people, btw I didnt mean established groups would take part. In fact it would only be for people who didnt know each other. After work parties.

i don't remember ever seeing a description of swingers that said 'will fuck anything'

There were similar parties in London a few tears ago where a place was booked for the evening and equal numbers of men and women turned up. "

I'm not saying they don't happen. I'm saying to suggest people aren't swingers because they won't fuck anyone is ridiculous!!

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I wouldn't play with just anyone that is not what swinging is about.

I'm pretty sure car key parties are just a myth. I have never heard of anyone actually having taken part in one.

They did happen, its true they were in the late 80's. It just takes the pressure of people to get laid. Im sure youve been to patties where the guys were all after a few girls and the whole atmosphere was soured. "

Nope, its never happened in any parties or clubs I have been to.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We went to a similar themed party where playing cards were used. Couples drew aces and then went into a theme room where a particular game or activity was played out to a lucky person tied to the bed/massage table who had drawn that corresponding card.

However this was a party where couples were invited along similar lines. It was a great ice breaker which led to some very uninhibited action later on.

Whilst the guest list was handpicked there was no hint of ego or pretentious. Just people having fun.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Don't think you will find many, that is a bit 70's style established groups where everyone is happy to fuck everyone else it can work, but as a new people type gathering these days I doubt it.

I know what you mean. Swingers can be very insular nowadays and really arent swingers in the true sense. I think it would be liberating for people, btw I didnt mean established groups would take part. In fact it would only be for people who didnt know each other. After work parties.

i don't remember ever seeing a description of swingers that said 'will fuck anything'

There were similar parties in London a few tears ago where a place was booked for the evening and equal numbers of men and women turned up.

I'm not saying they don't happen. I'm saying to suggest people aren't swingers because they won't fuck anyone is ridiculous!!"

It was not my intention to suggest that. Just thought it would be truly unusual to take the ego out of a party atmosphere when those attending dont know who they will be with. Its something that could really bring people in who wouldnt become a swinger for the reasons I already mentioned.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i don't remember ever seeing a description of swingers that said 'will fuck anything' "

and that will be only one problem, some swingers don't rate 1 on 1, others prefer it. some it's looks that attract others personality etc.

Getting equal interest from men and women could also be a bit difficult if the ratio's on Fab are anything to go by.

It may work out, and is worth a try, but as a business plan I wouldn't remortgage your house on it, and this dragon is out

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i don't remember ever seeing a description of swingers that said 'will fuck anything'

and that will be only one problem, some swingers don't rate 1 on 1, others prefer it. some it's looks that attract others personality etc.

Getting equal interest from men and women could also be a bit difficult if the ratio's on Fab are anything to go by.

It may work out, and is worth a try, but as a business plan I wouldn't remortgage your house on it, and this dragon is out "

Fair comment. The parties could alternate between group sex GB where women and guys woukd just turn up to fuck. Still no choice, cannot refuse anyone unless they are not behaving ofcourse. In other words taking the schoolyard posing and healousy out of sex. Im sure you have seen possessive people at parties.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Btw this isnt meant as a business plan. No profit involved.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The people invited would have to be presentable ofcourse. I think swinging has become full of pretentious schoolyard jealousies. Its more like a dating game than alternative lifestyle. Nothing remotely alternative about too many "swingers" now."

I have to agree

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like there is potential to emotional scarring, feeling forced to have sex with someone you don't want to. To me this reminds me of the school yard and games lime spin the bottle... In theory it might be sexy, but pressure beyond playfulness is not.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know what, that actually sounds a great idea (subject to obvious hygiene and safety standards etc) I guess it would only work if everyone accepted what / who they got in the spirit intended and rules / boundaries were very clear (and no still means no! Ha!)

ie no petty jealousies if you don't draw the perfect ten etc, I reckon that could be an awesome evening!

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I could not go to a party full of strangers and fuck anybody willy nilly. That is not pretentious in my mind.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i don't remember ever seeing a description of swingers that said 'will fuck anything'

and that will be only one problem, some swingers don't rate 1 on 1, others prefer it. some it's looks that attract others personality etc.

Getting equal interest from men and women could also be a bit difficult if the ratio's on Fab are anything to go by.

It may work out, and is worth a try, but as a business plan I wouldn't remortgage your house on it, and this dragon is out

Fair comment. The parties could alternate between group sex GB where women and guys woukd just turn up to fuck. Still no choice, cannot refuse anyone unless they are not behaving ofcourse. In other words taking the schoolyard posing and healousy out of sex. Im sure you have seen possessive people at parties."

No, this is taking choice and individuality out of swinging. Good luck with your parties.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything with the phrase 'cannot refuse' is a bit concerning...

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Btw this isnt meant as a business plan. No profit involved."

Business plan comment was made to indicate I don't see it succeeding rather than you making profit.

If you are targeting singles, I am not sure where the possessiveness comes into the equation. I know some couples where one fancies swapping but the other doesn't and they have not sorted out the communication very well, which can get awkward in clubs. but possessive singles is not something we have encountered.

I think your "cannot refuse anyone" policy is likely to fail big time, lifestyle is still about choice for most.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ivnwcplCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

last time we tried this the wife ended up with a stunning bloke and I ended up fucking his Cortina

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't play with just anyone that is not what swinging is about.

I'm pretty sure car key parties are just a myth. I have never heard of anyone actually having taken part in one."

a friend of mine used to run these sort of parties up until the late '90's....

he had access to pubs that were B & B's so everyone arrived, had a few drinks, threw their keys into a bowl and let the fun begin

as far as I am aware though, he only ever invited couples not singles ...and they were very popular

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Still no choice, cannot refuse anyone unless they are not behaving ofcourse."

You want to host a party where you've removed a persons right to consent?!

I cant even

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

I suppose the guests would be people who are interested in gangbang and greedy girl events.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

"Cannot refuse anyone" is very worrying. Could be construed as a bit rapey tbh

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You know what, that actually sounds a great idea (subject to obvious hygiene and safety standards etc) I guess it would only work if everyone accepted what / who they got in the spirit intended and rules / boundaries were very clear (and no still means no! Ha!)

ie no petty jealousies if you don't draw the perfect ten etc, I reckon that could be an awesome evening! "

Obviously it goes without saying that I don't agree with the 'nobody can say no' bit! Definitely want to make THAT clear lol!

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh


"

Still no choice, cannot refuse anyone unless they are not behaving ofcourse.

You want to host a party where you've removed a persons right to consent?!

I cant even"

I agree

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

This sounds like a truely awful idea in my mind and I certainly wouldn't be attending any parties organised along these "can't refuse" lines.

In my mind Consent is THE most important thing in swinging, and you are eroding that.

But if other people want to play that way, its up to them.

OP i dont agree that this style of party would attract non-swingers to swinging, I think it would have the opposite effect. I cant imagine many husbands for example agreeing to "your wife is going to get fucked by a random man and she is not allowed to refuse"

I think this would be more for hardened swingers rather than newbies.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder what would happen if a guy ended up with another mans key. Since you can't refuse anyone, I mean.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think we will stick to the hand picked hotties parties OP. May nick one of your ideas though.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback."

I could see this working but only if it was an 'invitation only' event...ie, if you vetted all the participants and ensured that they were all of roughly the same age and had the same criteria and were comfortable with meeting and playing in that kind of environment.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 01/09/15 14:28:11]

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think everyone is getting a bit too literal here!

I think the OPs idea was that everyone WOULD be consensual by definition - ie everyone would go in and happily take the lottery of who they end up sleeping with. I don't think he REALLY meant sleep with someone against their will!

If everyone who went was HAPPY to take a chance with who they ended up with on a random basis (all adults here making free choices lol) subject to hygiene and safety standards as I said previously then this could definitely be fun!

Come on people you know the spirit of what the OP was trying to say!

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Come on people you know the spirit of what the OP was trying to say! "

Yeah I get that, but sating that once someone is there they don't get to refuse is pretty questionable.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

I could see this working but only if it was an 'invitation only' event...ie, if you vetted all the participants and ensured that they were all of roughly the same age and had the same criteria and were comfortable with meeting and playing in that kind of environment. "

Exactly this^^

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Come on people you know the spirit of what the OP was trying to say!

Yeah I get that, but sating that once someone is there they don't get to refuse is pretty questionable."

I totally get what you mean ~ I suppose if eveyone started refusing people then the party would be pointless.....

Like I agreed with earlier I could this working in certain circumstances.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hypothetically, if I were interested in such a party, I'd want it organised with something other than keys. I will not give my car keys to complete strangers, party organisers or playmates. Same with my house keys.

I can see the idea working as a "get to know you" gimmick, like a speed dating event for swingers. But as a literal "here's who you will fuck" then I might as well assign a number to every guy on fab, pick one at random and have no choice in whether I fuck him or not.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hypothetically, if I were interested in such a party, I'd want it organised with something other than keys. I will not give my car keys to complete strangers, party organisers or playmates. Same with my house keys.

I can see the idea working as a "get to know you" gimmick, like a speed dating event for swingers. But as a literal "here's who you will fuck" then I might as well assign a number to every guy on fab, pick one at random and have no choice in whether I fuck him or not. "

Works well with playing cards

Works well knowing that the partygoers are all sexy as fuck and no means no too.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think everyone is getting a bit too literal here!

I think the OPs idea was that everyone WOULD be consensual by definition - ie everyone would go in and happily take the lottery of who they end up sleeping with. I don't think he REALLY meant sleep with someone against their will!

If everyone who went was HAPPY to take a chance with who they ended up with on a random basis (all adults here making free choices lol) subject to hygiene and safety standards as I said previously then this could definitely be fun!

Come on people you know the spirit of what the OP was trying to say! "

Thanks. Yes I was not intending that to be taken literally. Who said it sounded like I was condoning rape is too far even for me to let go. For clarity sake I think its obvious what I meant; noone ever does anything they dont want to do. Ofcourse

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hypothetically, if I were interested in such a party, I'd want it organised with something other than keys. I will not give my car keys to complete strangers, party organisers or playmates. Same with my house keys.

I can see the idea working as a "get to know you" gimmick, like a speed dating event for swingers. But as a literal "here's who you will fuck" then I might as well assign a number to every guy on fab, pick one at random and have no choice in whether I fuck him or not. "

Ummm not everyone from Fab would be invited. I really dont get your point

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback."

No thanks. I wouldn't want to go to a party where the organiser has a seeming one-track mind for bareback.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

No thanks. I wouldn't want to go to a party where the organiser has a seeming one-track mind for bareback."

You have blocked me. Had a go at me at every opportunity. I understans you dont like me but what have I ever done to you. Your comment here is about the subject of bareback and not the subject of this thread. Im amazed Ive annoyed you so much

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

No thanks. I wouldn't want to go to a party where the organiser has a seeming one-track mind for bareback.

You have blocked me. Had a go at me at every opportunity. I understans you dont like me but what have I ever done to you. Your comment here is about the subject of bareback and not the subject of this thread. Im amazed Ive annoyed you so much"

You can't take things in isolation. You want to set up a party and you asked for any feedback. YOU are the key part of the party because you are the organiser. The party will succeed or fail by YOUR reputation because YOU are organising it.

You would almost certainly appear to those who enjoy bareback. However it might be a problem to convince those who do not enjoy bareback, because they might be worried that a guy will try and force them into bareback sex at a party where sex is "compulsory".

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

No thanks. I wouldn't want to go to a party where the organiser has a seeming one-track mind for bareback.

You have blocked me. Had a go at me at every opportunity. I understans you dont like me but what have I ever done to you. Your comment here is about the subject of bareback and not the subject of this thread. Im amazed Ive annoyed you so much

You can't take things in isolation. You want to set up a party and you asked for any feedback. YOU are the key part of the party because you are the organiser. The party will succeed or fail by YOUR reputation because YOU are organising it.

You would almost certainly appear to those who enjoy bareback. However it might be a problem to convince those who do not enjoy bareback, because they might be worried that a guy will try and force them into bareback sex at a party where sex is "compulsory"."

For what it's worth I'd love such a party. But I'd only go to one where the organiser was known for promoting safe sex and was against anything non-consensual happening. And they were vocal about those things.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

No thanks. I wouldn't want to go to a party where the organiser has a seeming one-track mind for bareback.

You have blocked me. Had a go at me at every opportunity. I understans you dont like me but what have I ever done to you. Your comment here is about the subject of bareback and not the subject of this thread. Im amazed Ive annoyed you so much

You can't take things in isolation. You want to set up a party and you asked for any feedback. YOU are the key part of the party because you are the organiser. The party will succeed or fail by YOUR reputation because YOU are organising it.

You would almost certainly appear to those who enjoy bareback. However it might be a problem to convince those who do not enjoy bareback, because they might be worried that a guy will try and force them into bareback sex at a party where sex is "compulsory"."

?????

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

No thanks. I wouldn't want to go to a party where the organiser has a seeming one-track mind for bareback.

You have blocked me. Had a go at me at every opportunity. I understans you dont like me but what have I ever done to you. Your comment here is about the subject of bareback and not the subject of this thread. Im amazed Ive annoyed you so much

You can't take things in isolation. You want to set up a party and you asked for any feedback. YOU are the key part of the party because you are the organiser. The party will succeed or fail by YOUR reputation because YOU are organising it.

You would almost certainly appear to those who enjoy bareback. However it might be a problem to convince those who do not enjoy bareback, because they might be worried that a guy will try and force them into bareback sex at a party where sex is "compulsory".

?????"

Is that your justification for your post. Someone might force someone to go bareback. You seem to think Im an ofre

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

No thanks. I wouldn't want to go to a party where the organiser has a seeming one-track mind for bareback.

You have blocked me. Had a go at me at every opportunity. I understans you dont like me but what have I ever done to you. Your comment here is about the subject of bareback and not the subject of this thread. Im amazed Ive annoyed you so much

You can't take things in isolation. You want to set up a party and you asked for any feedback. YOU are the key part of the party because you are the organiser. The party will succeed or fail by YOUR reputation because YOU are organising it.

You would almost certainly appear to those who enjoy bareback. However it might be a problem to convince those who do not enjoy bareback, because they might be worried that a guy will try and force them into bareback sex at a party where sex is "compulsory".

?????

Is that your justification for your post. Someone might force someone to go bareback. You seem to think Im an ofre"

No, I was just saying that at a party run by someone who is known for being passionate about bareback sex, it is likely to mean that other people who are equally passionate about bareback sex are likely to attend.

Combined with the fact you 'cannot refuse' sex, I would personally be concerned that someone might try and penetrate me without a condom on.

What happens if I cannot refuse to have sex with him (as per the rules of the party) but he refuses to wear protection?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Once OP has filtered out on all the modern, new wave swingers with their schoolyard attitudes and insistence on bizarre concepts like "consent", "attraction" and the like.....

...how big will his pool of potential meets be?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Once OP has filtered out on all the modern, new wave swingers with their schoolyard attitudes and insistence on bizarre concepts like "consent", "attraction" and the like.....

...how big will his pool of potential meets be?"

You forgot about the posing bit!!!?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hypothetically, if I were interested in such a party, I'd want it organised with something other than keys. I will not give my car keys to complete strangers, party organisers or playmates. Same with my house keys.

I can see the idea working as a "get to know you" gimmick, like a speed dating event for swingers. But as a literal "here's who you will fuck" then I might as well assign a number to every guy on fab, pick one at random and have no choice in whether I fuck him or not.

Ummm not everyone from Fab would be invited. I really dont get your point"

Well I wouldn't get to choose who to play with, the luck of the draw would. You as the party organiser could pick any random people to invite to the party and I'd apparently have to fuck whoever picked me by chance. If I wanted to have to sleep with a random person who I likely have no interest in, why should I go through a party organised by yourself?

Or more simply put, as above, people won't just sleep with anything just because it's a key swap party

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet? "

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet? "

You see, the randomness factor appeals to me because I have interests in consensual non-consent and so forth. So doing that in a controlled environment is actually quite interesting. And I'm sure other people will think the same.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though"

Nobody here is a polygamist - it's illegal to be married to two people in this country.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. "

Oh, buggar, and I've just shelled out a fiver on Ebay for a Lamborghini key-fob

Mr ddc

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

[Removed by poster at 01/09/15 17:08:13]

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though

Nobody here is a polygamist - it's illegal to be married to two people in this country."

Wow. Please let it go

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though

Nobody here is a polygamist - it's illegal to be married to two people in this country.

Wow. Please let it go "

You were the one that mentioned it!

And if you actually read my posts, you'll see that I think your idea is actually quite interesting.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Oops, sorry, double post

(And I'm not sure it was even funny the first time)

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

You see, the randomness factor appeals to me because I have interests in consensual non-consent and so forth. So doing that in a controlled environment is actually quite interesting. And I'm sure other people will think the same."

Exactly! Provided it's consensual (and not bareback and no still means no etc) the 'randomness' of a consensual lottery is quite exciting PROVIDED of course everyone is a willing participant and happy to play (hygiene and safety notwithstanding of course). I think the OP is getting an unwarranted and unnecessarily hard ride here. I may not agree with some of his other threads but the fantasy of this is quite good I think

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

You see, the randomness factor appeals to me because I have interests in consensual non-consent and so forth. So doing that in a controlled environment is actually quite interesting. And I'm sure other people will think the same."

We have done it in a controlled environment with people of our choosing. Whilst we had rules regarding what specifically happened in the theme rooms it did not detract from the fun at all. Part of the excitement was the unknown quantity that would come through the door while the receiving party was restrained and blindfolded. It had a darker edge to what we were used to.

However there was always the chance to utter the safe word.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him.

Oh, buggar, and I've just shelled out a fiver on Ebay for a Lamborghini key-fob

Mr ddc"

Ha ha !

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well. Im being accused of all sorts here. Thats OK because I couldnt care less. Its a shame that posts gave degenerated into person abuse. Not surprised looking at those abusibg ne. Refer to thread on Polygamy. I had the nerve to disagree with them. Some comments hete do sound a bit cultish to me

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thing is, you're going to need a minimum of maybe 4 couples to make this key idea interesting. For the random ness to work and people to still consent to play, each lady has to be attracted to all four gents (assuming one on one hetero play) and vice versa. Given how couples can struggle with finding mutual attraction to just one couple, how difficult is it going to be to organise this party of 4 couples? In reality for a party you'll need more than 4, likely 10, 20 maybe. You're going to struggle to find that many people all attracted to each other and the concept of the party

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well. Im being accused of all sorts here. Thats OK because I couldnt care less. Its a shame that posts gave degenerated into person abuse. Not surprised looking at those abusibg ne. Refer to thread on Polygamy. I had the nerve to disagree with them. Some comments hete do sound a bit cultish to me"

Are you just going to cry whenever people disagree with a part of your plan? Because honestly if you are, you're going to be a terrible event organiser.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

You see, the randomness factor appeals to me because I have interests in consensual non-consent and so forth. So doing that in a controlled environment is actually quite interesting. And I'm sure other people will think the same.

Exactly! Provided it's consensual (and not bareback and no still means no etc) the 'randomness' of a consensual lottery is quite exciting PROVIDED of course everyone is a willing participant and happy to play (hygiene and safety notwithstanding of course). I think the OP is getting an unwarranted and unnecessarily hard ride here. I may not agree with some of his other threads but the fantasy of this is quite good I think "

Thanks.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though"

One, you're confusing polygamy (multiple married spouses and illegal here in the UK) with polyamoury (loving relationships with multiple partners, not necessarily all involved with each other).

Two, polyamourists are likely more enlightened than yourself, given they explore non traditional relationship dynamics.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, people disagreeing with you isn't abuse. Grow up.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet? "

thanks

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"Well. Im being accused of all sorts here. Thats OK because I couldnt care less. Its a shame that posts gave degenerated into person abuse. Not surprised looking at those abusibg ne. Refer to thread on Polygamy. I had the nerve to disagree with them. Some comments hete do sound a bit cultish to me"

Maybe you should put more effort in to your original posts then, to ensure that your point isn't misconstrued.

Oh, and calling people childish is never going to be constructive.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP, people disagreeing with you isn't abuse. Grow up."

The issues people are raising for you here are the things you need to consider when organising your party. When a potential invite raises the same questions are you going to whine and accuse them of abuse or answer their concerns respectfully?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though"

So you are accusing me of breaking the law and being married to two people at the same time? Nope, I'm not a polygamist, I'm not even polyamorous, I'm a swinger.

If you read my posts above I said that this wasnt for me, but if others want to do it that's up to them to decide.

As you brought it up, I find it interesting that you dont think that women should be allowed to be polyamorous because in your opinion they have been brainwashed into playing out a male fantasy, but that your fantasy is to play where women aren't allowed to say no to having sex.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ok. Lets forget the abuse now. I am interested in peoples ideas here. Sex always brings out deep seated feelings in some people.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though

So you are accusing me of breaking the law and being married to two people at the same time? Nope, I'm not a polygamist, I'm not even polyamorous, I'm a swinger.

If you read my posts above I said that this wasnt for me, but if others want to do it that's up to them to decide.

As you brought it up, I find it interesting that you dont think that women should be allowed to be polyamorous because in your opinion they have been brainwashed into playing out a male fantasy, but that your fantasy is to play where women aren't allowed to say no to having sex. "

Please let it go. I complained about your nasty post. Honestly you do what you want.why not just think about the possibilities of this idea

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it sounds as though the OP just wants to arrange parties with women who would normally reject him, and arrange a party where they are not allowed to say no to him. Otherwise, why not just play with people who would willingly play with him in a club or in a private meet?

Nice comment. It looks like the polygamists are out to get me. Childish and not very enlightebed. I already knew that though

So you are accusing me of breaking the law and being married to two people at the same time? Nope, I'm not a polygamist, I'm not even polyamorous, I'm a swinger.

If you read my posts above I said that this wasnt for me, but if others want to do it that's up to them to decide.

As you brought it up, I find it interesting that you dont think that women should be allowed to be polyamorous because in your opinion they have been brainwashed into playing out a male fantasy, but that your fantasy is to play where women aren't allowed to say no to having sex.

Please let it go. I complained about your nasty post. Honestly you do what you want.why not just think about the possibilities of this idea "

Out of interest, what do you think is the draw for men and women to attend this style of event? Why do you like the idea so much?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As you brought it up, I find it interesting that you dont think that women should be allowed to be polyamorous because in your opinion they have been brainwashed into playing out a male fantasy, but that your fantasy is to play where women aren't allowed to say no to having sex. "

*mic drop*

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anything with the phrase 'cannot refuse' is a bit concerning..."

Very concerning I would say...

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I would never go anywhere where I HAD to have sex with someone....EVER.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't fuck anyone I wasn't attracted to...

I'm out

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I truly don't feel that anybody has the right to decide what "real swingers" do or dictate to other people how they should behave.

Before we started out on this I fondly imagined I would encounter broad minded tolerance, I do occasionally but not often.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I truly don't feel that anybody has the right to decide what "real swingers" do or dictate to other people how they should behave.

Before we started out on this I fondly imagined I would encounter broad minded tolerance, I do occasionally but not often. "

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ilk n SteelCouple
over a year ago

Croydon


"I truly don't feel that anybody has the right to decide what "real swingers" do or dictate to other people how they should behave.

Before we started out on this I fondly imagined I would encounter broad minded tolerance, I do occasionally but not often. "

Good point, reading it back what we wrote could have been worded better.

Let's say this. At the parties and events we have attended, this is what the people who attended do and have done, and what will be happening at the next party, with the people who are attending

In our opinion, which is shared by our friends, our understanding of the definition of swinging is partner swapping. This doesn't have to be a narrow definition by any means, and these many ladies are bi and there is girl girl action at every club and party.

We are by no means saying how anyone should behave, only commenting on how they have and do. Most importantly, how they choose to do.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


" i prefer BB GB by the way.

"

You kept that quiet...

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" i prefer BB GB by the way.

You kept that quiet..."

Not just any by the way and not on Fab though. People Ive known for a while

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We went to a similar themed party where playing cards were used. Couples drew aces and then went into a theme room where a particular game or activity was played out to a lucky person tied to the bed/massage table who had drawn that corresponding card.

However this was a party where couples were invited along similar lines. It was a great ice breaker which led to some very uninhibited action later on.

Whilst the guest list was handpicked there was no hint of ego or pretentious. Just people having fun. "

There you go OP. Similar parties do exist.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think everyone is getting a bit too literal here!

I think the OPs idea was that everyone WOULD be consensual by definition - ie everyone would go in and happily take the lottery of who they end up sleeping with. I don't think he REALLY meant sleep with someone against their will!

If everyone who went was HAPPY to take a chance with who they ended up with on a random basis (all adults here making free choices lol) subject to hygiene and safety standards as I said previously then this could definitely be fun!

Come on people you know the spirit of what the OP was trying to say! "

He's not kidnapping people off the street. Some people would love that kind of party.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's not kidnapping people off the street. Some people would love that kind of party.

"

I'd definitely enjoy it if the participants were a group that I knew and trusted to make 'not allowed to say no' a very fun time. Wouldn't do that with a bunch of randoms.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ilk n SteelCouple
over a year ago

Croydon


"He's not kidnapping people off the street. Some people would love that kind of party.

I'd definitely enjoy it if the participants were a group that I knew and trusted to make 'not allowed to say no' a very fun time. Wouldn't do that with a bunch of randoms."

Can agree with this.

Again without naming profiles but it's a veri on our list, we were at a club earlier this year where five couples were in a room together for what was described by one as an extravaganza.

Now to get five couples, or six, or ten, to turn up and all do full swap,so everyone is happy to fuck everyone else full on, you have to organise it and is usually has to be with people who all know each other and all know they are happy to jump in and go for it.

Though we believe in no pressure, and newbies starting at thier own pace, you simply wouldn't invite people to something like that if they were unknown or hesitant. And you certainly wouldn't make them feel like they were under pressure.

Yes, it's great to get people together when you know everyone there will be up for it and nobody is going to be saying no.And that comes from trust and experience.

And would we do this with keys? Still no. Want the spontaneous choice and natural pace.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op I'm having a bad day at work and reading this thread made me smile. You're becoming one of my favorite posters . Keep up the good work.

Btw your party idea can work. Instead of keys try using blindfolds / Mask or hoods.

Good luck

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Op I'm having a bad day at work and reading this thread made me smile. You're becoming one of my favorite posters . Keep up the good work.

Btw your party idea can work. Instead of keys try using blindfolds / Mask or hoods.

Good luck "

Your welcome it has been amusing with some of the comments. I always like to cheer people up.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im looking to set up some regular parties where the ewual numbers of mainly single men and women dont know who they will fuck with. Thats first part. After a couple of hours repeat. This way anticipation is increased and the usual posing is pointless as its pure chance who you play with. Couples could be more difficult so mainly singles. Im intetested in any feedback.

I could see this working but only if it was an 'invitation only' event...ie, if you vetted all the participants and ensured that they were all of roughly the same age and had the same criteria and were comfortable with meeting and playing in that kind of environment. "

I agree with this as would rather meet people of my own age

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would be a headache to set up. I only have sex with people I fancy. The kiss-ability factor I call it.

So:-

1- collect names.

2- Send names out to group.

3- collect names

4- match up

5- good luck. !

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it sounds like fun.....

Probably the key to success is possibly...

Check out say the females first...

Check their veris to see what type of men they like...

And try to stick to a very similar type of person...

Good luck with that homework

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ok. Thanks for your input. Ill check it out then stick my head above the parapet for it to be blown off again. Enjoy

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 
 

By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

You can't take things in isolation. You want to set up a party and you asked for any feedback. YOU are the key part of the party because you are the organiser. The party will succeed or fail by YOUR reputation because YOU are organising it.

"

I rarely agree with wasp on any issue.... but on this one she actually has a fair point

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
Post new Message to Thread
back to top