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"It's no different to going into a unisex hairdressers for a haircut where they charge different rates for men and women" I don't think it's quite the same women's hair tends to take longer so more expensive where as private members clubs can charge less for under represented groups | |||
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"Oaps and students get discount rates in lots of places!" Can't wait to see my first Nus card at a swingers night lol | |||
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"Oaps and students get discount rates in lots of places! Can't wait to see my first Nus card at a swingers night lol" | |||
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"I'm just wondering if anyone can clear up something for me. Is it legal for clubs to charge men more for entry based upon their sex? And before anyone starts, I fully understand why they do it and why they restrict numbers of single males. I'm just wondering if it's technically legal, I can't imagine it is, and it wouldn't be allowed in any other walk of life. Can anyone shed some light on this for me please?" There are laws to be looked at.. but it really depends on circumstances and specifics. Best thing to do is check with a lawer - since it's a civil action law suite to be had - not a criminal one. Can't see many single guys taking a swing club to court now.. worried their wives/gf's might find out. | |||
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"Are gay male couples charged the same as heterosexual couples or charged twice the price of a single male?" Can't speak for other clubs but all couples are charged as couples regardless of orientation. | |||
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"Are gay male couples charged the same as heterosexual couples or charged twice the price of a single male? Can't speak for other clubs but all couples are charged as couples regardless of orientation. " I wonder how many straight single men would be willing to form fake MM couples to get in cheaper - and get into 'no single male' evenings. | |||
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"I'm just wondering if anyone can clear up something for me. Is it legal for clubs to charge men more for entry based upon their sex?" No, that would be discrimination. What is legal, however, is to to encourage under-represented groups (i.e. couples and single females) to participate by offering a reduced rate in order to address the imbalance. This is called 'positive action' and is covered by section 158 of the Equality Act 2010. | |||
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" We have heard of clubs charging guys as single when they have attended as a couple because they are a fuck buddy/play partner, if you arrive together you should be charged as a couple. Our way stops this also. " That's a difficult one, I know from first hand experience some guys just use women to get in cheap, I've had guys go to clubs with me then once in bugger off all night and play alone, if that's the case why shouldn't me pay the same as every other single guy? But I've also had guys go with me who have wanted to be with me and we have played as a couple, its hard for the clubs to vet wether none couple couples will stay together or not so hard to know how to charge, but I really don't think a guy who just walks in with a woman then walks around alone all night looking for sex should pay as a couple | |||
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" We have heard of clubs charging guys as single when they have attended as a couple because they are a fuck buddy/play partner, if you arrive together you should be charged as a couple. Our way stops this also. That's a difficult one, I know from first hand experience some guys just use women to get in cheap, I've had guys go to clubs with me then once in bugger off all night and play alone, if that's the case why shouldn't me pay the same as every other single guy? But I've also had guys go with me who have wanted to be with me and we have played as a couple, its hard for the clubs to vet wether none couple couples will stay together or not so hard to know how to charge, but I really don't think a guy who just walks in with a woman then walks around alone all night looking for sex should pay as a couple " So we should judge everyone first and unfairly? Its not just single guys its known for women to do the same thing so they get paid for and lifts? Thats where the staff have to do their job by asking the guy to leave then your not prejudging decent guys. We are amazed as a modern society that strives for equality in the workplace and in general life that the swing scene is still so out of date on this side. | |||
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" We have heard of clubs charging guys as single when they have attended as a couple because they are a fuck buddy/play partner, if you arrive together you should be charged as a couple. Our way stops this also. That's a difficult one, I know from first hand experience some guys just use women to get in cheap, I've had guys go to clubs with me then once in bugger off all night and play alone, if that's the case why shouldn't me pay the same as every other single guy? But I've also had guys go with me who have wanted to be with me and we have played as a couple, its hard for the clubs to vet wether none couple couples will stay together or not so hard to know how to charge, but I really don't think a guy who just walks in with a woman then walks around alone all night looking for sex should pay as a couple So we should judge everyone first and unfairly? Its not just single guys its known for women to do the same thing so they get paid for and lifts? Thats where the staff have to do their job by asking the guy to leave then your not prejudging decent guys. We are amazed as a modern society that strives for equality in the workplace and in general life that the swing scene is still so out of date on this side. " Did I say you should judge anyone? I said it's a hard one and I also said its hard for the clubs to know what type of people use their clubs When did I mentions judging or being unfair? Will there ever be a day when you can comment on thse forums without someone twisting what you say | |||
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" We have heard of clubs charging guys as single when they have attended as a couple because they are a fuck buddy/play partner, if you arrive together you should be charged as a couple. Our way stops this also. That's a difficult one, I know from first hand experience some guys just use women to get in cheap, I've had guys go to clubs with me then once in bugger off all night and play alone, if that's the case why shouldn't me pay the same as every other single guy? But I've also had guys go with me who have wanted to be with me and we have played as a couple, its hard for the clubs to vet wether none couple couples will stay together or not so hard to know how to charge, but I really don't think a guy who just walks in with a woman then walks around alone all night looking for sex should pay as a couple So we should judge everyone first and unfairly? Its not just single guys its known for women to do the same thing so they get paid for and lifts? Thats where the staff have to do their job by asking the guy to leave then your not prejudging decent guys. We are amazed as a modern society that strives for equality in the workplace and in general life that the swing scene is still so out of date on this side. Did I say you should judge anyone? I said it's a hard one and I also said its hard for the clubs to know what type of people use their clubs When did I mentions judging or being unfair? Will there ever be a day when you can comment on thse forums without someone twisting what you say " Think maybe you miss read our comment, it was a open comment of should we judge first and unfairly? We didnt say or directed the comment at you personally. So nothing taken the wrong way on our behalf. To charge as single is pre judging that the single guy has used the fem to gain entry, for that reason you then judge first and unfairly. Our way is non judgemental untill proven otherwise, as a venue we would welcome everyone and anyone and treat them accordingly with respect and equally. only judging when there is need to judge because of their behaviour within our venue. Hope this helps clears the misunderstand as its a debate and nothing aimed personally at you. | |||
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