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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it " But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club | |||
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"We don't go too much by the review section, we have left reviews after a first time at a club if it's been not to our taste we tend not to leave one at all, but as had already been said we listen to people we trust " we are the same.. We wouldn't have gone to some clubs if we had gone on the reviews x | |||
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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club " Then just leave a review stating that. A good club can be down to the facilities, other attendees or just pot luck on the night. Likewise so can a bad club! It should always just be a summary of your thoughts and experience of that night. A | |||
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"Perhaps only allow one review per member per club? So you can leave another review but the old one will be deleted? If you look at some of the club reviews the same people are reviewing all the time, this would stop this. Also allow the club owners to come back on reviews, so they could answer, poor reviews or thank good reviews, much like hotel reviews etc.." Since Fabswingers updated the clubs section over a year ago they have now got it spot on. If for example a club has 500 reviews showing then all 500 are from 500 verified profiles. If a regular leaves a new review every week for example it will not be added to the 500 it just shows up as a new review and lasts for 4 days or so. it does not top up on top of the 500 number. So the system is very fair no one can top the original number up. And if a club has 500 reviews and they are all positive then they have come from 500 different profiles and you have to be guided by this as how can 500 profiles all be wrong.Clubs can not edit the reviews so they are 100% genuine. Our advice is if the reviews of a club is good go check it out as they cant all be wrong that is the whole point of the review system is to show you the clubs that are doing well and they are the ones that are not. I know that if there are two clubs been going for 3 years one has 500 reviews and the other has only 50 then there is a very good reason for this one club is doing well and one is not. Always pick the clubs with the highest reviews they are the best to attend every time just look how well chams are doing in Birmingham the reviews speak volumes. Take our advice we need there reviews to point us in the right direction and they giude us on the clubs that are busy and doing well. The system is spot on and it does not need changing. Don't touch something till its broke we say. | |||
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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club " ive read reviews by people that have said about a club - we have been here before and it was rubbish gave it a second chance and it was much better - and also vice versa comments - if i felt somthing was amiss one night and it hadnt been addressed at the time i would comment - i equally would praise if id had a problem and it was sorted - | |||
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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club ive read reviews by people that have said about a club - we have been here before and it was rubbish gave it a second chance and it was much better - and also vice versa comments - if i felt somthing was amiss one night and it hadnt been addressed at the time i would comment - i equally would praise if id had a problem and it was sorted - " Look at chams 1300 people can not all be wrong | |||
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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club ive read reviews by people that have said about a club - we have been here before and it was rubbish gave it a second chance and it was much better - and also vice versa comments - if i felt somthing was amiss one night and it hadnt been addressed at the time i would comment - i equally would praise if id had a problem and it was sorted - Look at chams 1300 people can not all be wrong" i never said any club was bad - but if i had had a bad time i would say - ive had great times at club | |||
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"Perhaps only allow one review per member per club? So you can leave another review but the old one will be deleted? If you look at some of the club reviews the same people are reviewing all the time, this would stop this. Also allow the club owners to come back on reviews, so they could answer, poor reviews or thank good reviews, much like hotel reviews etc.. Since Fabswingers updated the clubs section over a year ago they have now got it spot on. If for example a club has 500 reviews showing then all 500 are from 500 verified profiles. If a regular leaves a new review every week for example it will not be added to the 500 it just shows up as a new review and lasts for 4 days or so. it does not top up on top of the 500 number. So the system is very fair no one can top the original number up. And if a club has 500 reviews and they are all positive then they have come from 500 different profiles and you have to be guided by this as how can 500 profiles all be wrong.Clubs can not edit the reviews so they are 100% genuine. Our advice is if the reviews of a club is good go check it out as they cant all be wrong that is the whole point of the review system is to show you the clubs that are doing well and they are the ones that are not. I know that if there are two clubs been going for 3 years one has 500 reviews and the other has only 50 then there is a very good reason for this one club is doing well and one is not. Always pick the clubs with the highest reviews they are the best to attend every time just look how well chams are doing in Birmingham the reviews speak volumes. Take our advice we need there reviews to point us in the right direction and they giude us on the clubs that are busy and doing well. The system is spot on and it does not need changing. Don't touch something till its broke we say." I agree with the new review system!! It meant that all of a sudden, some clubs dropped their reviews by hundreds but it was a fair review. However, some clubs, in the past have given incentives for positive reviews on Fab and yes, they came from verified users etc...I am not actually doubting the credibility of the reviews either..I am sure the people had a good time, but the reviews were left to get something in return and thus the number of the reviews does not always mean that it is the best club. It is the quality of the reviews. I still say go along to the club and make your own judgement though. We have had equally good and bad nights at the same club. BTW...you refer to Chams and as far as I know, they have never offered incentives for positive reviews...it's genuinely a TOP venue | |||
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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club ive read reviews by people that have said about a club - we have been here before and it was rubbish gave it a second chance and it was much better - and also vice versa comments - if i felt somthing was amiss one night and it hadnt been addressed at the time i would comment - i equally would praise if id had a problem and it was sorted - Look at chams 1300 people can not all be wrong i never said any club was bad - but if i had had a bad time i would say - ive had great times at club " The op says reviews are false we disagree with that fabs has it spot on with this and it works well. | |||
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"Why do clubs give false information and get people to give reviews that are obviously misleading. After reading some very good reviews and being led to believe that every weekend.. "here" was the place to be, myself and a girlfriend from Fab decided to visit a pretty new local north west club, described as clean, well thought out, hmmmmmmm each to there own I suppose. Our main disappointment though was the lack of people, I counted around 16 other people, and this was on a saturday night. We spoke to another couple who said they were regulars and they informed us that this was pretty normal but it should pick up. This is NOT what was claimed in the reviews. " . A review anything is only one persons opinion . ( whether it is this site or any other non sexual site ). As a previous poster said the only way to see what a club is like is to visit yourself . I usually ignore reviews and verifications . | |||
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"Perhaps only allow one review per member per club? So you can leave another review but the old one will be deleted? If you look at some of the club reviews the same people are reviewing all the time, this would stop this. Also allow the club owners to come back on reviews, so they could answer, poor reviews or thank good reviews, much like hotel reviews etc.. Since Fabswingers updated the clubs section over a year ago they have now got it spot on. If for example a club has 500 reviews showing then all 500 are from 500 verified profiles. If a regular leaves a new review every week for example it will not be added to the 500 it just shows up as a new review and lasts for 4 days or so. it does not top up on top of the 500 number. So the system is very fair no one can top the original number up. And if a club has 500 reviews and they are all positive then they have come from 500 different profiles and you have to be guided by this as how can 500 profiles all be wrong.Clubs can not edit the reviews so they are 100% genuine. Our advice is if the reviews of a club is good go check it out as they cant all be wrong that is the whole point of the review system is to show you the clubs that are doing well and they are the ones that are not. I know that if there are two clubs been going for 3 years one has 500 reviews and the other has only 50 then there is a very good reason for this one club is doing well and one is not. Always pick the clubs with the highest reviews they are the best to attend every time just look how well chams are doing in Birmingham the reviews speak volumes. Take our advice we need there reviews to point us in the right direction and they giude us on the clubs that are busy and doing well. The system is spot on and it does not need changing. Don't touch something till its broke we say." The problem is that although they may not get added to the overall total, their views are still added, so if someone adds a review today and then tomorrow, they can give a distorted view as I don't want to read all the reviews and as they are the newest and therefore at the top this can distort the overall view. The point is if you said it was great once why do you need to keep saying it? OK you may of attended a special party and want to make a comment, let them say it, just remove the other comment. Another idea may be to show the results in another quick way so you don't have to actually read the write ups, so if you get 100 reviews show how many said ace, how many said OK and how many said avoid, as currently this is not possible without trawling through the reviews. As with anything there's always a different opinion, just putting mine forward! | |||
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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club " I left a negative review for a midlands club on here, was my honest experience, it was virtually empty on a few Saturday nights that I had attended. I wrote it because of the previous ten or so reviews only one wasn't from a club regular or an employee and all stated what a busy place it is every Saturday. I then received a vitriolic message from the owner and one from a club regular using my real name and expressing their disappointment that I had been so disloyal. Felt threatened by that and did report. Nasty stuff | |||
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"We went to a club last Saturday! Found it to be full of locals around 40 people in total, seems they had all played with each other at one time or another so it was incredibly clicky!!! Only one other cpl apart from ourselves was new to the place! And that's who we chose to play with only the staff spoke to us and one other cpl(locals) urging us to leave a great review of the club! Won't be going back in a hurry! Which is a great shame as the club is very good, just the unwelcomeing locals which spoilt it really. Still haven't left a review as wouldn't know where to start without offending said locals!!!" if you want to leave a review then telling the truth is fine! the clicky locals they regularly play togeather is promenant in most clubs when you are new to them, 2 visits and a bit of play later people might be looking at you in the same way?? | |||
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"Forgot to mention, every review from the club regulars is how fantastic it is! Well it might be if your in the click!!!" Actually I'm quite prepared to tell any club I use on a regular basis if it wasn't for me.... But only if it was the club rather than lack of people I'd play with. Ie something that the club Its self needs to change. As its not a clubs fault If I Dont click with people there or its a quiet night /day x | |||
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"Why do clubs give false information and get people to give reviews that are obviously misleading. After reading some very good reviews and being led to believe that every weekend.. "here" was the place to be, myself and a girlfriend from Fab decided to visit a pretty new local north west club, described as clean, well thought out, hmmmmmmm each to there own I suppose. Our main disappointment though was the lack of people, I counted around 16 other people, and this was on a saturday night. We spoke to another couple who said they were regulars and they informed us that this was pretty normal but it should pick up. This is NOT what was claimed in the reviews. " Hi guys. I think i know which club you're referring to and in my honest opinion it IS a really good club! No club can guarantee footfall - but the best thing to do if you want to see any club at it's busiest and best is to look at their events section and go on an organised event/party night! I do this and it works well for me!! Xx | |||
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"we have noticed how bad reviews go missing ........plus same people time after time review the club how brill it is etcetc......friends and family spring to mind " Yeah, we noticed all the negative one go missing. Fair enough if its bashing, or slagging off, but reviews just saying that it wasn't good seem to be removed. Completely misses the point only good reviews are allowed. That said, the best bet is to just try a plac regardless of what people say. We've only managed to find 2 clubs that we wouldn't go back to. (and no, our reviews didn't last!) | |||
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"we have noticed how bad reviews go missing ........plus same people time after time review the club how brill it is etcetc......friends and family spring to mind " Sometimes, and I talk from experience, you get troll reviews, left by either fake profiles or people who are supporters of other clubs, who have not ever attended your party or event. You can ask to have these reviews removed, thankfully. If a person who has attended one of my events has an opinion and is truthful, all is good whether it is positive or negative. You can still learn a lot from negative reviews too x | |||
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"We went to a club last Saturday! Found it to be full of locals around 40 people in total, seems they had all played with each other at one time or another so it was incredibly clicky!!! Only one other cpl apart from ourselves was new to the place! And that's who we chose to play with only the staff spoke to us and one other cpl(locals) urging us to leave a great review of the club! Won't be going back in a hurry! Which is a great shame as the club is very good, just the unwelcomeing locals which spoilt it really. Still haven't left a review as wouldn't know where to start without offending said locals!!!" I went to a club that was very cliquey, and I said so on my review. If the clientele is what is driving away new people then the club needs to know. | |||
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"i think there are two different things going on here.... if you are reviewing a club on its facilities... thats fair, i would also say that if you are going to do that, then at least have a word with the club owners as well.... i don't think it is fair to review a club based on the footfall of people..... because even the best clubs may be busier some weeks than others... that is outside of a clubs control..... as for groups of people talking together.... they probably do that because they know each other over time.... and talking is a two way street, you have to make as much effort talking to them as they do you i know this is controversial... but i have said to newbie couples not to go in with other couples... because it in a way creates a bubble around yourselves......" I generally find most of your posts very wise and considered , offering a balanced perspective , this one being no exception . However , as some posters have said , they attend a club for the first time based on the consistent reviews saying how busy the club is on a certain night of the week . And when they go on this night it is dead ..... I agree it may not be entirely down to the club , but if the consensus from reviews is that it will be busy and it isn't , the reviewers are giving a false impression which the club goer is relying on . Shouldn't these reviews be removed ? Is it not reasonable to have attended on a quiet night when you are led to believe it will be busy from the reviews , to leave a negative review based on this ? Just an observation from a couple who have experienced this now and again , and would like to see an honest appraisal from club goers up and down the uk without reprisal | |||
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"We must admit we always looking at the club reviews not to check out different clubs but to laugh at the people ( most not all) avoid comments we see at certain clubs are from regulars from local clubs ( there veris say it all) yes you have got it my club as had avoid form people that have not been to my club at any time you look for them on fab and there not on site or your blacked and I can say its hard to get fab to get the review off may be its a club that see your club doing to well so get people to have a go at your club " YES!!!! We had an avoid review from a couple earlier in the year who hadn't been for 18 months!! We keep records of membership numbers coming through the door, so when we saw the review commenting on a recent event, we were like...What?! lol The review system is abused all the time, so back to my original point, that people should just go to the clubs and judge for themselves rather than rely on the club reviews. | |||
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" YES!!!! We had an avoid review from a couple earlier in the year who hadn't been for 18 months!! We keep records of membership numbers coming through the door, so when we saw the review commenting on a recent event, we were like...What?! lol The review system is abused all the time, so back to my original point, that people should just go to the clubs and judge for themselves rather than rely on the club reviews. " This! | |||
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"Reviews on clubs should contain peoples views on the following.... Facilities Cleanliness Staff Location Parking NOT..... Amount of people Whether you were spoken to Whether you played Age of clientele Its the club and its facilities that should be reviewed, all to often people expect a club to guarantee them a sociable, busy fun filled night when the bottom line is its what YOU make it ! " Totally agree on the above. | |||
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"Reviews on clubs should contain peoples views on the following.... Facilities Cleanliness Staff Location Parking NOT..... Amount of people Whether you were spoken to Whether you played Age of clientele Its the club and its facilities that should be reviewed, all to often people expect a club to guarantee them a sociable, busy fun filled night when the bottom line is its what YOU make it ! " We agree | |||
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"Reviews on clubs should contain peoples views on the following.... Facilities Cleanliness Staff Location Parking NOT..... Amount of people Whether you were spoken to Whether you played Age of clientele Its the club and its facilities that should be reviewed, all to often people expect a club to guarantee them a sociable, busy fun filled night when the bottom line is its what YOU make it ! We agree " | |||
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"Reviews on clubs should contain peoples views on the following.... Facilities Cleanliness Staff Location Parking NOT..... Amount of people Whether you were spoken to Whether you played Age of clientele Its the club and its facilities that should be reviewed, all to often people expect a club to guarantee them a sociable, busy fun filled night when the bottom line is its what YOU make it ! We agree " We agree with this but have been guilty of mentioning how busy a club was. It can be hard visiting a club regularly and having a good time, not to want to sing the clubs praises after each visit. | |||
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"i would leave a review stating how i felt - even if it wasnt the best - that is what they are for isnt it But you always risk getting attacked by the regulars and I'm of the mind that maybe it isn't the club maybe we are just not suited to it, that doesn't make it a bad club I left a negative review for a midlands club on here, was my honest experience, it was virtually empty on a few Saturday nights that I had attended. I wrote it because of the previous ten or so reviews only one wasn't from a club regular or an employee and all stated what a busy place it is every Saturday. I then received a vitriolic message from the owner and one from a club regular using my real name and expressing their disappointment that I had been so disloyal. Felt threatened by that and did report. Nasty stuff " I find it very dissappointing when people can't leave an honest review about a club without getting hate mail. Do people really think that sending hate mail will get someone to change their minds???? I do remember a couple of years back a club that was getting a lot of mixed reviews, but honest reviews talking about the decor needing to be upgraded but the people there were really friendly, and alot of people were being bullied and victimised for their honest reviews. Again do people actually think that sending hate mail will change a persons opinion about somewhere???? | |||
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" I find it very dissappointing when people can't leave an honest review about a club without getting hate mail. Do people really think that sending hate mail will get someone to change their minds???? " | |||
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