FabSwingers.com forum: Single ladies and clubs

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What do women on here feel in general about the pricing to get into clubs?

With single men paying a high price and women nothing, do you not think the clubs are virtually prostituting you to men who are desperate for it and have trouble finding it elsewhere?

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lol"
yes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, I've never ever felt like that. Desperate men don't come across well anywhere especially in clubs so theyre unlikely to be anymore successful there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lolyes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait...."

Not at all! Ive always gone on my own choice, not because I'm needed as bait.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lolyes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait....

Not at all! Ive always gone on my own choice, not because I'm needed as bait."
Whether you go alone or not were referring to the clubs using you as bait..not your partner or playmate

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By *ambslass48Woman
over a year ago

Peterborough

I pay to go into clubs thanks and very single thanks lol ooo and no hooker lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I pay to go into clubs thanks and very single thanks lol ooo and no hooker lol"
Were not saying your a hooker were implying the clubs lt you in cheaper than men because the women attract the men therefore generating the club a profit from your fanny!!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I understand why some consider it unfair and resent the pricing structure at most clubs.

I can also understand the point of _iew that the clubs are trying to encourage women in and to limit the number of men.

Personally, no I don't feel prostituted. I know the clubs are effectively trying to attract women to act as 'bait' to get more men in but I am free to say no. Yes, paying more to get in can make some men think they are entitled to play in return and it can make them pushy and entitled. However, I know most clubs will deal with anyone hassling me. Failing that, I can deal with it myself.

Clubs are an opportunity. I have the option of playing if anyone appeals. There's no rule saying I have to, even if I get in cheaper, or even free. If I don't want to, I don't.

That said, I'm not going to any more clubs. I get too hot and then I feel too self-conscious about being sweaty to actually play. Nobody would want to play with a hot, sweaty woman, I'm sure.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I pay to go into clubs thanks and very single thanks lol ooo and no hooker lolWere not saying your a hooker were implying the clubs lt you in cheaper than men because the women attract the men therefore generating the club a profit from your fanny!!"

So what? That money funds the venue I enjoy (presumably, or I wouldn't go). Where's the problem?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think men really go to clubs expecting something definite to happen?? I would have thought most would read the rules and understand them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what? That money funds the venue I enjoy (presumably, or I wouldn't go). Where's the problem? "

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I've only gotten in free once and that was because it was my birthday.

I do feel that single guys get charged an huge amount but they obviously pay it as there are still a lot of single guys attending on those nights.

I don't see it as clubs prostituting me out as no one is guaranteed anything no matter who they are or what they pay to get in. Nor have I encountered any single guys who have the impression they are entitled to action just because they have paid more.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So what? That money funds the venue I enjoy (presumably, or I wouldn't go). Where's the problem? "
no problem its a discussion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only people who think that women become prostitutes by not paying are the same ones who think a woman owes them if they have bought her dinner and the same people who treat all women like prostitutes. Surely it is no one's loss if they stop going to clubs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The only people who think that women become prostitutes by not paying are the same ones who think a woman owes them if they have bought her dinner and the same people who treat all women like prostitutes. Surely it is no one's loss if they stop going to clubs."
If women did not go then there wouldnt be clubs...only gay saunas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about the woman who go because they know they can have the pick of the crop so to speak? Woman go because they benefit! If we felt like prostitutes we probably wouldn't go

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lolyes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait....

Not at all! Ive always gone on my own choice, not because I'm needed as bait."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How about the woman who go because they know they can have the pick of the crop so to speak? Woman go because they benefit! If we felt like prostitutes we probably wouldn't go"
You wont find the pick of the male crop in a club

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lolyes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait....

Not at all! Ive always gone on my own choice, not because I'm needed as bait.

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not sure you really have a grasp of the bait issue

too simple to put up a line of thumbs after its already been explained

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm unsure which clubs you go to where women get in for free but I have paid a fair price for memberships for clubs then an entry fee as well. I've never been anywhere where females are free.

But I agree. Single male prices are a little steep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only people who think that women become prostitutes by not paying are the same ones who think a woman owes them if they have bought her dinner and the same people who treat all women like prostitutes. Surely it is no one's loss if they stop going to clubs.If women did not go then there wouldnt be clubs...only gay saunas"

Really?

Out of interest what clubs do you go to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What do women on here feel in general about the pricing to get into clubs?

With single men paying a high price and women nothing, do you not think the clubs are virtually prostituting you to men who are desperate for it and have trouble finding it elsewhere?

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

thoughts?"

Men who are desperate for it and cannot find it elsewhere aren't successful in clubs either. They still have to be able to pull in real life to pull in a club.

Unless the club is paying you or the guys are paying you or you are not doing any of this under your own free will, then yeah its pimpy. But consenting adults who go aren't being taken advantage of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do think single guys are charged too much, especially when the club is limiting their numbers by setting quotas. I dont mind paying...it is a cheap night out fun or no fun. There seems to be a contradiction here. High prices limits single guys v setting quotas to limit single guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What as insult to men to suggest they're desparate and unable to get sex anywhere else but at a club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lolyes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait....

Not at all! Ive always gone on my own choice, not because I'm needed as bait.

not sure you really have a grasp of the bait issue

too simple to put up a line of thumbs after its already been explained"

The thumbs generally indicate someone agreeing with the above post.

Also you seem to really have an agenda with this "issue" which rather suggests clubs aren't for you. Simply dont go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting! I would prefer it if everyone paid the same. It is indeed a bit like pimping out female customers. If I didn't like it I wouldn't go. But I do think charging guys more will give them more expectations/ hopes. Of course it will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What as insult to men to suggest they're desparate and unable to get sex anywhere else but at a club

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Some are.some arent

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lolyes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait....

Not at all! Ive always gone on my own choice, not because I'm needed as bait.

not sure you really have a grasp of the bait issue

too simple to put up a line of thumbs after its already been explained

The thumbs generally indicate someone agreeing with the above post.

Also you seem to really have an agenda with this "issue" which rather suggests clubs aren't for you. Simply dont go"
We dont go we just follow threads on issues and this one intrigued us...the 1st comment had been commented on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What as insult to men to suggest they're desparate and unable to get sex anywhere else but at a club

Some are.some arent"

Thats better

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

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Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What as insult to men to suggest they're desparate and unable to get sex anywhere else but at a club

Some are.some arent

Thats better

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really not tryin to get up anyones back here xX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers "

But you just said that you don't go to clubs? So how do you know what the people look like or how they act?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never felt that way at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

How do you 'know' that? You seem to think that clubs are just there for men. Have you forgotten about couples?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers "
YEs ur right there and in London its about 50 for single guys lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers

But you just said that you don't go to clubs? So how do you know what the people look like or how they act?"
Been three times to two clubs in the past sorry, should have explained better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

How do you 'know' that? You seem to think that clubs are just there for men. Have you forgotten about couples?"
Are women not half of that couple then,therefore if she stopped going it would be just the male half...ala gay saunna

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers "

How do you know that if you don't go to clubs?? Are the rest of us losers too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers

But you just said that you don't go to clubs? So how do you know what the people look like or how they act?"
I know, I meant that I seen the menu u know what they charge.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me."
Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers

How do you know that if you don't go to clubs?? Are the rest of us losers too?

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no but you seem to be spoiling for an argument,maybe a lie down will do you good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free"

It's not a myth?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

It's not a myth?

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earlier posters commented women do not go to clubs for free.....what are you not getting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

How do you 'know' that? You seem to think that clubs are just there for men. Have you forgotten about couples?Are women not half of that couple then,therefore if she stopped going it would be just the male half...ala gay saunna"

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...

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By *adyGardenWoman
over a year ago

LONDON (se)

I often go as a single but never feel like bait. I go because I want to and actually appreciate the lesser cost. Weather people find it unfair or thst women are bait then they simply just don't go if it bothers them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers

How do you know that if you don't go to clubs?? Are the rest of us losers too?

no but you seem to be spoiling for an argument,maybe a lie down will do you good"

What's your problem I'm asking a question? Is my opinion not valid? I thought as I'm a single fem that goes to clubs that your question would be aimed at people like me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

It's not a myth?

earlier posters commented women do not go to clubs for free.....what are you not getting"

Everyone knows that women get in to some clubs free. Non of the posts above contradict that.

Oh and we've got in clubs free, And half price. And I can tell you about single men that have too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

It's not a myth?

earlier posters commented women do not go to clubs for free.....what are you not getting"

The club I work at gives single women free entry on certain nights but they still have a nominal membership fee. Might be free entry but they still pay at some point. Plus they'll pay for drinks etc like everyone else

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers..."
We do not know what a yjay men is

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

It's not a myth?

earlier posters commented women do not go to clubs for free.....what are you not getting

Everyone knows that women get in to some clubs free. Non of the posts above contradict that.

Oh and we've got in clubs free, And half price. And I can tell you about single men that have too. "
Your going round in circles hoping for an argument your not going to get...the issue is women get in cheaper as bait for the men,what men and women do or dont understand about clubs was never the issue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free"

Some clubs are free in the nw for women. Some charge a nominal entrance fee.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What as insult to men to suggest they're desparate and unable to get sex anywhere else but at a club

this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

It's not a myth?

earlier posters commented women do not go to clubs for free.....what are you not getting

Everyone knows that women get in to some clubs free. Non of the posts above contradict that.

Oh and we've got in clubs free, And half price. And I can tell you about single men that have too. Your going round in circles hoping for an argument your not going to get...the issue is women get in cheaper as bait for the men,what men and women do or dont understand about clubs was never the issue"

No you THINK that women get in cheaper as bait. But are seemingly reluctant to have that belief challenged or even begin to discuss it.

Women aren't bait. Single men aren't losers. The male halves of couples probably wouldn't be in gay sauna's if clubs didn't exist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is"

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What as insult to men to suggest they're desparate and unable to get sex anywhere else but at a club

this "
Its a tad twisted by some but never intended to provoke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Private members clubs have a thing called positive discrimination. If they can prove that there is good reason to charge differently based on gender they can. Its a justified business model, not bait

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If nothing is on tv, be on the forums

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'"
We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers "

Bit confused, you say you've never been to a club? Yet your calling the single men that do go to clubs "life's losers" how can you make a comment like that if you've never been to a club?

Yes men pay more to get into a club than a single fem or a couple but I think that's just to keep the number of single men limited, and every club we've been to the single ladies have to pay as well.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Private members clubs have a thing called positive discrimination. If they can prove that there is good reason to charge differently based on gender they can. Its a justified business model, not bait"
Ok scenario here for you 2 women and 148 men decide to go to the club for sex.....on trhe night the two women drop out so how many men turn up with no females there?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers

Bit confused, you say you've never been to a club? Yet your calling the single men that do go to clubs "life's losers" how can you make a comment like that if you've never been to a club?

Yes men pay more to get into a club than a single fem or a couple but I think that's just to keep the number of single men limited, and every club we've been to the single ladies have to pay as well. "
read the thread...weve been to 2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

It's not a myth?

earlier posters commented women do not go to clubs for free.....what are you not getting

Everyone knows that women get in to some clubs free. Non of the posts above contradict that.

Why start a discussion about something if your just going to.tell everyone they're wrong??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker "

I'm not bickering. So I repeat my questions - what is your opinion of couples that go to clubs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why start a discussion about something if your just going to.tell everyone they're wrong??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im.confused...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why start a discussion about something if your just going to.tell everyone they're wrong??

Dont do that, somebody else has already been chastised for thumbs only agreement

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do single fems attract men to clubs? No doubt about it. I think thats reflected in the price structure. I'm going to a club tonight. I'll get in free the fellas can pay £50 depending on membership. Do I feel like a prostitute - no! I'm going to have fun. No ones forcing me.Thanks and there goes the myth that women dont get into clubs for free

It's not a myth?

earlier posters commented women do not go to clubs for free.....what are you not getting

Everyone knows that women get in to some clubs free. Non of the posts above contradict that.

Why start a discussion about something if your just going to.tell everyone they're wrong??

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We have not suggested anyones wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most clubs ive been the girls don't get in for free?

But then again ive been told single girls are like unicorn poo lolyes but its like pennies for the ladies as they simply are used for bait...."

couldn't you say that about females in couples though? All because I'm single I still choose who I play with like you would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I go to clubs

Sometimes free for girls

I choose who I play with and when

It's a safe environment

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"What do women on here feel in general about the pricing to get into clubs?

With single men paying a high price and women nothing, do you not think the clubs are virtually prostituting you to men who are desperate for it and have trouble finding it elsewhere?

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

thoughts?"

I think if it had been left with just the first question/paragraph... it would have been an interesting topic...

I think that the rest of it is deliberately provocative....

since couples pay more in most cases than single men... couldn't your same reasoning be used to comment on clubs uses for couples as well.... i.e "clubs are virtually prostituting you to men who are desperate for it and have trouble finding it elsewhere?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker

I'm not bickering. So I repeat my questions - what is your opinion of couples that go to clubs?"
Its hard to respond whilst dealing with the pack but here goes,We think couples go mainly to swap partners and girl on girl fun which can be hard to find in vanilla life

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I think there is a risk that the free entry will be misconstrued by some, it also encourages ladies to go on their own.

That is a positive, it can be a negative if they go week in, week out with no intention of playing ( NOTE, that will always be their choice

) but sitting around getting pissed on booze they bring can be off putting to others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if you think single females are being used for bait, and single men are low life's, what are couples that attend clubs?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What do women on here feel in general about the pricing to get into clubs?

With single men paying a high price and women nothing, do you not think the clubs are virtually prostituting you to men who are desperate for it and have trouble finding it elsewhere?

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

thoughts?

I think if it had been left with just the first question/paragraph... it would have been an interesting topic...

I think that the rest of it is deliberately provocative....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So if you think single females are being used for bait, and single men are low life's, what are couples that attend clubs? "
OMG...Single men are low lifes..lol

Was that us or you just said that as i cant recall that at all and would not label a person a low life

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think there is a risk that the free entry will be misconstrued by some, it also encourages ladies to go on their own.

That is a positive, it can be a negative if they go week in, week out with no intention of playing ( NOTE, that will always be their choice

) but sitting around getting pissed on booze they bring can be off putting to others.

"
thanks for the sensible input

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

actually.... to take it a bit further... just had a thought so lets play a bit of devils advocate...

on the nights where clubs only allow in couples and single fems (yes there are a few of those)

can I apply your same question......

With COUPLES paying a high price and women nothing, do you not think the clubs are virtually prostituting you to COUPLES who are desperate for it and have trouble finding it elsewhere?

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

thoughts?

p.s.... I was naughty and changed the word "men" for "couples"..... but do you see how your question now looks.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you think single females are being used for bait, and single men are low life's, what are couples that attend clubs? OMG...Single men are low lifes..lol

Was that us or you just said that as i cant recall that at all and would not label a person a low life"

You words.

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices "

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"actually.... to take it a bit further... just had a thought so lets play a bit of devils advocate...

on the nights where clubs only allow in couples and single fems (yes there are a few of those)

can I apply your same question......

With COUPLES paying a high price and women nothing, do you not think the clubs are virtually prostituting you to COUPLES who are desperate for it and have trouble finding it elsewhere?

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

thoughts?

p.s.... I was naughty and changed the word "men" for "couples"..... but do you see how your question now looks....."
yes apologies and it could have been worded far better but still wide of the topic

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

I have a vanilla dinner date (no,we are not just having ice-cream) tomorrow evening

He will pick me up, pay for dinner and then drop me back. And I have no intention of doing anything else with him (I keep my two lives separate)

Does that mean that he is a loser or I am a hooker? I don't think so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you think single females are being used for bait, and single men are low life's, what are couples that attend clubs? OMG...Single men are low lifes..lol

Was that us or you just said that as i cant recall that at all and would not label a person a low life

You words.

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices "

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers"
YEs what about my thing there?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So if you think single females are being used for bait, and single men are low life's, what are couples that attend clubs? OMG...Single men are low lifes..lol

Was that us or you just said that as i cant recall that at all and would not label a person a low life

You words.

"lol I don't need to go into a club for sex and thats why I will never pay their prices "

Its 20 quid up here for a couple so hardly expensive but your mainly surrounded by men on a mixed night and most look like lifes losers"
So where is the term low life??????????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you think single females are being used for bait, and single men are low life's, what are couples that attend clubs? OMG...Single men are low lifes..lol

Was that us or you just said that as i cant recall that at all and would not label a person a low life"

Those were your words and not mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if you think single females are being used for bait, and single men are low life's, what are couples that attend clubs? OMG...Single men are low lifes..lol

Was that us or you just said that as i cant recall that at all and would not label a person a low life

Those were your words and not mine "

I apologise your words were life's losers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker

I'm not bickering. So I repeat my questions - what is your opinion of couples that go to clubs?Its hard to respond whilst dealing with the pack but here goes,We think couples go mainly to swap partners and girl on girl fun which can be hard to find in vanilla life"

So single women are hardly bait in that scenario then are they?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have a vanilla dinner date (no,we are not just having ice-cream) tomorrow evening

He will pick me up, pay for dinner and then drop me back. And I have no intention of doing anything else with him (I keep my two lives separate)

Does that mean that he is a loser or I am a hooker? I don't think so"
Clubs prostituting(as in having them there for buttons) was the topic,your off on a tangent...whether you want to be a hooker is up to you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker

So single women are hardly bait in that scenario then are they?"
couples do not pay single man prices!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker

So single women are hardly bait in that scenario then are they?couples do not pay single man prices!!!!!"

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I have a vanilla dinner date (no,we are not just having ice-cream) tomorrow evening

He will pick me up, pay for dinner and then drop me back. And I have no intention of doing anything else with him (I keep my two lives separate)

Does that mean that he is a loser or I am a hooker? I don't think soClubs prostituting(as in having them there for buttons) was the topic,your off on a tangent...whether you want to be a hooker is up to you"

No, I am not off tangent at all. You don't need to insult me by insinuating that I might wish to be a hooker just as your dear hubby does not wish to be your pimp

My comment is to illustrate that everyday life, where men have always paid for a woman's company, is mirrored in swingers clubs too

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker

So single women are hardly bait in that scenario then are they?couples do not pay single man prices!!!!!

And? Your first post said clubs would close without single women. The point I;m making is that by your own admission couples are there to meet other couples. So why would a lack of single women lead to clubs closing?"
No it would lead to a lack of single men and not enough revenue stream if no single women , so the point again is clubs prostituting women in the singular

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Looks in.

Sees yet another thread accusing club going men of being losers and women as nothing but bait.

Bangs head against wall.

Leaves thread.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have a vanilla dinner date (no,we are not just having ice-cream) tomorrow evening

He will pick me up, pay for dinner and then drop me back. And I have no intention of doing anything else with him (I keep my two lives separate)

No, I am not off tangent at all. You don't need to insult me by insinuating that I might wish to be a hooker just as your dear hubby does not wish to be your pimp

My comment is to illustrate that everyday life, where men have always paid for a woman's company, is mirrored in swingers clubs too"
What utter bollocks,women get their own round in up here,your saying in one breath your not a hooker then in the next men should pay for your company....double standards really

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Looks in.

Sees yet another thread accusing club going men of being losers and women as nothing but bait.

Bangs head against wall.

Leaves thread.

A"
purely a discussion please feel free to air your _iews on the matter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do know without women clubs would not exist or bring in escort girls which some are known to do

So what does that say about your impression of couples that go to clubs? I mean you;ve already said yjay men that go are losers...We do not know what a yjay men is

it was a typo, it should hve said 'that'We said some are losers ,now can we discuss and not bicker

So single women are hardly bait in that scenario then are they?couples do not pay single man prices!!!!!

And? Your first post said clubs would close without single women. The point I;m making is that by your own admission couples are there to meet other couples. So why would a lack of single women lead to clubs closing?No it would lead to a lack of single men and not enough revenue stream if no single women , so the point again is clubs prostituting women in the singular"
Yes it kinda is but in an legal way. They say its by covering, refreshments and things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!"
We dont go anymore for that reason,we just wanted others _iews weve been in the past and are hoping in the future to visit a few further afield but we really are a couples couple in the club sense

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"What utter bollocks,women get their own round in up here,your saying in one breath your not a hooker then in the next men should pay for your company....double standards really"

Not should, but they do. Not because I cannot pay for myself, but because that is the natural structure of society

No different from when men hold doors open for me. It is not because they think that I am too weak to open a door

Afterall, I don't spend an hour in the gym, 3 times a week for nothing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!We dont go anymore for that reason,we just wanted others _iews weve been in the past and are hoping in the future to visit a few further afield but we really are a couples couple in the club sense "

Only go on couples nights then... Pretty simple

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What utter bollocks,women get their own round in up here,your saying in one breath your not a hooker then in the next men should pay for your company....double standards really

Not should, but they do. Not because I cannot pay for myself, but because that is the natural structure of society

No different from when men hold doors open for me. It is not because they think that I am too weak to open a door

Afterall, I don't spend an hour in the gym, 3 times a week for nothing

"
Seriously your setting womens lib back decades here

your argument as it was is that men pay for women by hook or by crook...not the women we know! but thats a different matter

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!We dont go anymore for that reason,we just wanted others _iews weve been in the past and are hoping in the future to visit a few further afield but we really are a couples couple in the club sense

Only go on couples nights then... Pretty simple "
Thanks Sherlock but we had figured that out for ourselves,once again couples or us for that matter were not the topic

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Looks in.

Sees yet another thread accusing club going men of being losers and women as nothing but bait.

Bangs head against wall.

Leaves thread.

Apurely a discussion please feel free to air your _iews on the matter

Ok.

As on numerous other threads it's commonly recognised that gender numbers are imbalanced in clubs (excluding couples). To attempt to balance the attendee numbers a different price structure exists designed to encourage single female attendance to reduce the ratio of men to women. Men (some) complain about the differing prices - yet so many are still happy to go. Women (in general) obviously don't complain about the prices as why would they? Yet those women don't perceive themselves as bait, prostitutes or any other derogatory term - just single female club goers.

Gender imbalance will always exist in terms if singles. Clubs can either do what they can to encourage a more even ratio - or simply decide to stop singles going. Who wins then? Nobody!

Not the single males, the single females, not the couples that enjoy the company of either (or both) single genders.

It also seems that those with the biggest issues about clubs are rarely those that ever go.

You asked for an opinion - there you go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!We dont go anymore for that reason,we just wanted others _iews weve been in the past and are hoping in the future to visit a few further afield but we really are a couples couple in the club sense

Only go on couples nights then... Pretty simple Thanks Sherlock but we had figured that out for ourselves,once again couples or us for that matter were not the topic"

There's really no need to be rude. If it's not about you why are you getting so worked up about it then?? I'd say it was you that was spoiling for an argument!!

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman
over a year ago

Deviant City

I pay to get into most clubs. The money I pay is for using the club and its jacuzzi, sauna, dungeon and having a place to use for safer sex. I'm not a prostitute, I am very very fussy and often go to clubs just to chill out and chat whilst sat in my lingerie.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Looks in.

Sees yet another thread accusing club going men of being losers and women as nothing but bait.

Bangs head against wall.

Leaves thread.

Apurely a discussion please feel free to air your _iews on the matter

Ok.

Gender imbalance will always exist in terms if singles. Clubs can either do what they can to encourage a more even ratio - or simply decide to stop singles going. Who wins then? Nobody!

Not the single males, the single females, not the couples that enjoy the company of either (or both) single genders.

It also seems that those with the biggest issues about clubs are rarely those that ever go.

You asked for an opinion - there you go.

A"
And a very good one , more structured with a better sense of the topic,like we said weve been to two so are fairly novice in some eyes but highly experienced in others

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!We dont go anymore for that reason,we just wanted others _iews weve been in the past and are hoping in the future to visit a few further afield but we really are a couples couple in the club sense

Only go on couples nights then... Pretty simple Thanks Sherlock but we had figured that out for ourselves,once again couples or us for that matter were not the topic

There's really no need to be rude. If it's not about you why are you getting so worked up about it then?? I'd say it was you that was spoiling for an argument!! "
Who is worked up or rude...simply replying to your curt instruction

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

It also seems that those with the biggest issues about clubs are rarely those that ever go.

actually that is probably the truest thing so in the copious amount of these types of threads...

they always want to change things from the outside looking in....

as opposed to going and then giving clubs constructive criticism.... most club owners actually do listen to feedback from those who go and do so regularly....

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Seriously your setting womens lib back decades here

your argument as it was is that men pay for women by hook or by crook...not the women we know! but thats a different matter"
I am not setting anything back. It is the natural order of the world

Just as it is that women get pregnant and men do not. No feminist in the Alpha quadrant can change that

Feminism, to me, is all about obtaining equal human rights for women. It is not about loosing my femininity by looking like a butch lesbian and insisting that I go Dutch with my dinner dates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!We dont go anymore for that reason,we just wanted others _iews weve been in the past and are hoping in the future to visit a few further afield but we really are a couples couple in the club sense

Only go on couples nights then... Pretty simple Thanks Sherlock but we had figured that out for ourselves,once again couples or us for that matter were not the topic

There's really no need to be rude. If it's not about you why are you getting so worked up about it then?? I'd say it was you that was spoiling for an argument!! Who is worked up or rude...simply replying to your curt instruction"

You've been pretty rude to people throughout this thread..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It also seems that those with the biggest issues about clubs are rarely those that ever go.

actually that is probably the truest thing so in the copious amount of these types of threads...

they always want to change things from the outside looking in....

as opposed to going and then giving clubs constructive criticism.... most club owners actually do listen to feedback from those who go and do so regularly....

I totally agree with this

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

It also seems that those with the biggest issues about clubs are rarely those that ever go.

actually that is probably the truest thing so in the copious amount of these types of threads...

they always want to change things from the outside looking in....

as opposed to going and then giving clubs constructive criticism.... most club owners actually do listen to feedback from those who go and do so regularly....

Absolutely

And it is not just swingers clubs. Some of the nite clubs I go to have adopted a similar policy where it is free admittance for women before a certain time

In my home country, my favourite restaurant has Wednesdays as 'ladies night' where 2 shots of Schnapps are free for women. We adore our men-folk but I've never heard of a 'gentleman night'. And if there was, it would probably mean something else

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

It also seems that those with the biggest issues about clubs are rarely those that ever go.

actually that is probably the truest thing so in the copious amount of these types of threads...

they always want to change things from the outside looking in....

as opposed to going and then giving clubs constructive criticism.... most club owners actually do listen to feedback from those who go and do so regularly....

Absolutely

And it is not just swingers clubs. Some of the nite clubs I go to have adopted a similar policy where it is free admittance for women before a certain time

Spot on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely

And it is not just swingers clubs. Some of the nite clubs I go to have adopted a similar policy where it is free admittance for women before a certain time

this i have witnessed alot even in Birmingham on a night out

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think what your saying about single woman being bait is probably fair as clubs want people through the door, which makes sense as it's a business. I think by reading the thread the general concensus is woman don't mind being used as bait. We all go to clubs with our own agenda, so we'll do what works best for ourselves. Seeing as you don't go to clubs I'm confused as to why you care!We dont go anymore for that reason,we just wanted others _iews weve been in the past and are hoping in the future to visit a few further afield but we really are a couples couple in the club sense

Only go on couples nights then... Pretty simple Thanks Sherlock but we had figured that out for ourselves,once again couples or us for that matter were not the topic

You've been pretty rude to people throughout this thread.."
Weve addressed people the way they have addressed us....and that includes you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So perhaps the question to ask is why are men, who go to clubs, prepared to pay the high prices?

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By *ans123Couple
over a year ago

manchester

It also seems that those with the biggest issues about clubs are rarely those that ever go.

actually that is probably the truest thing so in the copious amount of these types of threads...

they always want to change things from the outside looking in....

as opposed to going and then giving clubs constructive criticism.... most club owners actually do listen to feedback from those who go and do so regularly....

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

For me a chance to be honest about sex when going to a club on the club's terms. Discussed with others and was told sometimes women find it fun to get raunchy in a safe environment where most have more understanding of sexuality and the way to express it freely. And as a proud loser not sure how the the original post works when you have greedy girl nites which I have yet to go to

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So perhaps the question to ask is why are men, who go to clubs, prepared to pay the high prices?

"
That you could only ask the men about...In our eyes they are paying through the nose for it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So perhaps the question to ask is why are men, who go to clubs, prepared to pay the high prices?

"
Also someones high price at lets say 50 quid would be peanuts to a single guy earning 150k a yr.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So perhaps the question to ask is why are men, who go to clubs, prepared to pay the high prices?

That you could only ask the men about...In our eyes they are paying through the nose for it"

I agree they're paying through the nose, but it's their choice to do so. Socials are free events for people to meet so it's not as if they're without options.

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley

"So perhaps the question to ask is why are men, who go to clubs, prepared to pay the high prices?

Also someones high price at lets say 50 quid would be peanuts to a single guy earning 150k a yr."

Like every bloke on here earns £150K a year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is anyone remembering the couples that go to clubs?? Surely the ladies are encouraged to go more for them than the single males... or we would hope to think so... its a shame really that there's always single males at clubs yet it's so hard to find single fems anywhere

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By *R and BlondieCouple
over a year ago

Bebington, wirral

"Looks in.

Sees yet another thread accusing club going men of being losers and women as nothing but bait.

Bangs head against wall.

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By *ussypussWoman
over a year ago

South Birmingham waiting for the bf to come back after crimbo

Yes, OK, single ladies are considered 'bait' by the clubs but as has already been said, everyone has the right to say 'No' be they the bait or the 'target'.

The clubs have rules and one of the main rules is that pestering will not be tolerated and that if someone says 'No' then continues to be pestered, complaints will be made to Club Management and the perpetrator can be asked to leave the club with immediate effect and multiple infringement of these rules can result in membership being withdrawn.

As such, having been into my local club both as one half of a couple and as a single lady, I personally do not feel as though I'm being 'pimped' by the club. On many occasions I have been and simply sat in the jacuzzi chatting with absolutely no inclination to do anything other than use the club facilities, talk to like-minded people and go home without having been pestered or feeling as though I've been pushed to do anything I don't want to

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"So perhaps the question to ask is why are men, who go to clubs, prepared to pay the high prices?

That you could only ask the men about...In our eyes they are paying through the nose for it"

so let use our part of the country as an example....

no club here charges more than 30 quid for a single guy...

am i likely to spend more going to a club on a saturday night... or am i more likely to spend more going out for a saturday night in lets say newcastle city centre drinking, taxi home (let just say public transport in for the sake of arguement) food, clubs, more drinking, ect ect ect.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn right we should get in free lol! And of course the clubs are going to let the ladies in cheaper/free as it does attract customers. Im a single lady and rarely play at clubs (love the social side and wearing what I love), but I dont think there are enough single guys that go to clubs. p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

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By *ussypussWoman
over a year ago

South Birmingham waiting for the bf to come back after crimbo

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Is anyone remembering the couples that go to clubs?? Surely the ladies are encouraged to go more for them than the single males... or we would hope to think so... its a shame really that there's always single males at clubs yet it's so hard to find single fems anywhere

Surely?

Why do you think that? You're assuming that the females are bi, the female halves of couples are bi - and that every couple is looking for an FFM!

There's a hell of a lot of couples that are both straight, are looking for threesomes (or moresomes!) with other males - and many couples where both are bi/curious.

Extra females don't benefit them at all.

Single females aren't encouraged to attend to suit the needs of any segment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I go to clubs

Sometimes free for girls

I choose who I play with and when

It's a safe environment "

I totally agree.

I go as a single woman to clubs. I pay my entrance fee and CHOOSE who I want to play with.

It is so much safer than meeting a guy in his hotel or at his house.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So perhaps the question to ask is why are men, who go to clubs, prepared to pay the high prices?

I wonder..........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely?

Why do you think that? You're assuming that the females are bi, the female halves of couples are bi - and that every couple is looking for an FFM!

There's a hell of a lot of couples that are both straight, are looking for threesomes (or moresomes!) with other males - and many couples where both are bi/curious.

Extra females don't benefit them at all.

Single females aren't encouraged to attend to suit the needs of any segment.

I go for myself. I'm not 'encouraged to go for the benefit of the couples'!

Or the men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about the woman who go because they know they can have the pick of the crop so to speak? Woman go because they benefit! If we felt like prostitutes we probably wouldn't goYou wont find the pick of the male crop in a club"

So, so true

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

"
I rest my case,as weve said from the off.

Why cant it be the other way round?

If there are no men there would be no women,the club prices should be equal for all sexes across the board and the fact that chams and jaydees are free for single women proves our "bait"point

Bait as in to get the single men in and paying 50 quid for the chance and we are stating chance of a fuck.

Clubs main selling points are not the decor or the pool or the hot tub or dungeon,a clubs selling point is how many willing wet fannies it can offer on a club night to entice the men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never see myself as bait. Its just common sense. If women paid the same as men clubs would cease to be.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I never see myself as bait. Its just common sense. If women paid the same as men clubs would cease to be. "
Yet if there were no men the outcome would be exactly the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never see myself as bait. Its just common sense. If women paid the same as men clubs would cease to be. Yet if there were no men the outcome would be exactly the same"

It works. I tend to avoid mostly clubs that charge single guys vastly more than couples but I also wont take a single guy with me to a club as a couple . Done it a handful of times but only with friends ...

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

OK, although the OP is not enjoying any opinion that dissents, this has been debated before.

The simple truth is that, if women were charged the same as men, they wouldn't go, there would be too many men, the men would stop going - no club. If men were charged the same as women, there would be too many men, women and couples would stop going - no club. Its that simple.

We are not being used as bait or prostituted out. Any single woman going to a club knows in advance they are going to be in demand, but the club rules state (and most men are aware) that no means no. I've been to lots and lots of clubs and, apart from one, have not been pestered or followed around, however much I wanted to be.

Clubs are run for couples, but the money comes from single men. Putting the responsibility for this on the shoulders of single women is disingenuous - the pricing is set by the clubs. Go ask them why they do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

I rest my case,as weve said from the off.

Why cant it be the other way round?

If there are no men there would be no women,the club prices should be equal for all sexes across the board and the fact that chams and jaydees are free for single women proves our "bait"point

Bait as in to get the single men in and paying 50 quid for the chance and we are stating chance of a fuck.

Clubs main selling points are not the decor or the pool or the hot tub or dungeon,a clubs selling point is how many willing wet fannies it can offer on a club night to entice the men "

It has been said time and time again - if the prices for single men were the same as women it would be a cockfest. That would put the single ladies and couples off, the fellas would stop going. The club closes. Is this good business sense? No! If you dont like clubs or the prices offend you dont go. Quite simple really. Let those that enjoy clubs do their thing. The women who go arent hookers and the men aren't sad. Just people out for fun.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

So, so true

That's actually pretty offensive to men!

I used to go to clubs on my own. Many guys on here who are regarded by the community as perfect gents and who are in high demand by other singles and couples go to clubs - not because they expect anything by because they enjoy the club scene.

If I posted that clubs are frequented by couples and single females that can't get meets/sex by any other means I'd be shot down in flames in seconds!

And rightly so.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

I rest my case,as weve said from the off.

Why cant it be the other way round?

If there are no men there would be no women,the club prices should be equal for all sexes across the board and the fact that chams and jaydees are free for single women proves our "bait"point

Bait as in to get the single men in and paying 50 quid for the chance and we are stating chance of a fuck.

Clubs main selling points are not the decor or the pool or the hot tub or dungeon,a clubs selling point is how many willing wet fannies it can offer on a club night to entice the men "

You can 'rest your case' all you like.

It doesn't make you right.

Encouraging an under-represented gender to visit clubs does not make anyone bait.

People don't know who will be attending a club on any given night. Apart from socials/parties where lists are run in forums there's no way of knowing how many couples and singles of both sexes will be there - from Fab, other sites, existing members - and even those who just use clubs rather than the internet.

Yet week in week out people still go!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

I rest my case,as weve said from the off.

Why cant it be the other way round?

If there are no men there would be no women,the club prices should be equal for all sexes across the board and the fact that chams and jaydees are free for single women proves our "bait"point

Bait as in to get the single men in and paying 50 quid for the chance and we are stating chance of a fuck.

Clubs main selling points are not the decor or the pool or the hot tub or dungeon,a clubs selling point is how many willing wet fannies it can offer on a club night to entice the men

You can 'rest your case' all you like.

It doesn't make you right.

Encouraging an under-represented gender to visit clubs does not make anyone bait.

Yet week in week out people still go!

A"
Its all horse shit really....club f has limited male places for Saturdays controlling the number of males,now all clubs could do that without the need to fleece men and couples to a certain degree

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

I had been going to Radletts for years. They lay on a buffet dinner (not the classiest, but is OK), have a proper wooden dance floor which is larger than most nite clubs have and hire a DJ. They also have an Olympic size outdoor covered and heated swimming pool and a Jacuzzi

Entry for women is free, for couples I think it was £30 and for men I think it was £50

They then decided to start charging women £5. Big mistake; I stopped going there; there are lots and lots and lots of other swingers and nite clubs to go to which are free for women. By the way, nite clubs can sometimes be more exciting than a swingers club

Anyway, a lot of other women stopped going there. The couples followed and they were left with, what has been described before, a 'gay sauna'

The £5 charge was immediately rescinded. The point is that despite the excellent facilities, it is the female of the species which will attract the males and that includes the males within a couple and that is why couples get charged but get charged slightly less than males because there is a female component to the pair

By all means, fight for your gender equality but unless you (couples) are willing to fund the males by paying as much as them, the clubs will be empty as no woman, unless desperate, would head for one of them

Not being big-headed but why should I pay to go to a club when I can choose from the 1000s of men here who will book a hotel of my choice, take me out for dinner followed by a night of passionate sex. And one of those men might even be your hubby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

I rest my case,as weve said from the off.

Why cant it be the other way round?

If there are no men there would be no women,the club prices should be equal for all sexes across the board and the fact that chams and jaydees are free for single women proves our "bait"point

Bait as in to get the single men in and paying 50 quid for the chance and we are stating chance of a fuck.

Clubs main selling points are not the decor or the pool or the hot tub or dungeon,a clubs selling point is how many willing wet fannies it can offer on a club night to entice the men

You can 'rest your case' all you like.

It doesn't make you right.

Encouraging an under-represented gender to visit clubs does not make anyone bait.

Yet week in week out people still go!

AIts all horse shit really....club f has limited male places for Saturdays controlling the number of males,now all clubs could do that without the need to fleece men and couples to a certain degree"

But then they wouldn't be catering for the couples and woman that want lots of guys and choice....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had been going to Radletts for years. They lay on a buffet dinner (not the classiest, but is OK), have a proper wooden dance floor which is larger than most nite clubs have and hire a DJ. They also have an Olympic size outdoor covered and heated swimming pool and a Jacuzzi

Entry for women is free, for couples I think it was £30 and for men I think it was £50

Anyway, a lot of other women stopped going there. The couples followed and they were left with, what has been described before, a 'gay sauna'

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Entry for women is free, for couples I think it was £30 and for men I think it was £50

Anyway, a lot of other women stopped going there. The couples followed and they were left with, what has been described before, a 'gay sauna'

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Afraid he wouldnt be interested darling but your post has yet again proved our point and your now enhancing that point by saying you would change clubs(a club you loved with excellent facilities) for the price of a big mac meal

coupled with the other statements you made on this thread as in men expected to pay for your company my hubby would go nowhere within a mile of you!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

I rest my case,as weve said from the off.

Why cant it be the other way round?

If there are no men there would be no women,the club prices should be equal for all sexes across the board and the fact that chams and jaydees are free for single women proves our "bait"point

Bait as in to get the single men in and paying 50 quid for the chance and we are stating chance of a fuck.

Clubs main selling points are not the decor or the pool or the hot tub or dungeon,a clubs selling point is how many willing wet fannies it can offer on a club night to entice the men

You can 'rest your case' all you like.

It doesn't make you right.

Encouraging an under-represented gender to visit clubs does not make anyone bait.

Yet week in week out people still go!

AIts all horse shit really....club f has limited male places for Saturdays controlling the number of males,now all clubs could do that without the need to fleece men and couples to a certain degree

But then they wouldn't be catering for the couples and woman that want lots of guys and choice...."
The vast majority of couples like ourselves are not looking for men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whenever I read threads like this I am always confused as to how fet events and clubs across the country prosper despite an almost universal geneder neutral pricing structure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, so true

That's actually pretty offensive to men!

If I posted that clubs are frequented by couples and single females that can't get meets/sex by any other means I'd be shot down in flames in seconds!

And rightly so.

So you really think that attractive, clever, funny, sexy men are willing to fork out up to sixty quid plus their membership to hang around seedy clubs with their cock out? I think they are probably getting the sexual interaction they want just by being in the vanilla world. The motivation for couples is completely different, sex as a threesome or more is quite hard to come by down the pub, that's why they go. Single women, different kettle of fish again. There are very few women who are willing to parade themselves as a sexual commodity (yes I do realise they can say no) in a club and that's entirely why clubs do not get many single women attending.

Single women make up the largest demographic group in the country and yet they are considered hens teeth in the swinging world, why is that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Entry for women is free, for couples I think it was £30 and for men I think it was £50

Anyway, a lot of other women stopped going there. The couples followed and they were left with, what has been described before, a 'gay sauna'

So in short you begrudge paying a nominal entry fee to clubs and see nothing wrong with expecting men in here to wine and dine you and pay for hotels?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is silly now. Just meet up for a bitch fight in a pool of beans.

More fun then all this bitching like school children

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Entry for women is free, for couples I think it was £30 and for men I think it was £50

Anyway, a lot of other women stopped going there. The couples followed and they were left with, what has been described before, a 'gay sauna'

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id rather meet the 1000s of ladys that believe in sharing costs etc or that accom and want my cock for lunch if i wanted to pay for it id book a escort

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Entry for women is free, for couples I think it was £30 and for men I think it was £50

Anyway, a lot of other women stopped going there. The couples followed and they were left with, what has been described before, a 'gay sauna'

id rather meet the 1000s of ladys that believe in sharing costs etc or that accom and want my cock for lunch if i wanted to pay for it id book a escort

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She will find 90 percent of men do have morals and standards...she is obviously attracting the 10 percent

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Afraid he wouldnt be interested darling but your post has yet again proved our point and your now enhancing that point by saying you would change clubs(a club you loved with excellent facilities) for the price of a big mac meal

coupled with the other statements you made on this thread as in men expected to pay for your company my hubby would go nowhere within a mile of you!!"

How do you know that? Is that what he said to you?

and you believed it

It is expected because it is the norm in society and not just at swingers clubs

If one were to run statistics on this website on how many messages each group receives (not replies) per day then it might go something like this:

Bi-females: 200

females: 100

Couples: 30

Males: 1

That is represented in inverse proportions in the real world attendance at clubs of any kind

Take a chill-pill and accept the fact that you as a couple and other men will have to fund my attendance at a club. But if you left your hubby at home, then then you can enjoy the same benefits as me

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"So in short you begrudge paying a nominal entry fee to clubs and see nothing wrong with expecting men in here to wine and dine you and pay for hotels? "

When all swingers clubs and nite clubs start charging women then I too will start paying. But why would I start paying for one club which charges whilst all others are free

Would you pay £500 for a dress at Selfridges when the same dress is available at Miss Selfridges for £200?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

this has almost turned into a pricing structure arguement but for men...lol

like i said before higher up... in the north east neither of the clubs charge more than 30 quid on any given night for single men.... so I can absolutely equate that to any good night out....

in other parts of the country where they charge much more for single men, could you say that?

if they charged this mythical "50 pounds" as some are saying in other parts of the country, could i then justify paying as much as that...probably not so much...

it "could" be seen as almost "cartel like" is it priced at that because it maximises profits ... or it is priced that way because of collusion???

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"this has almost turned into a pricing structure arguement but for men...lol

like i said before higher up... in the north east neither of the clubs charge more than 30 quid on any given night for single men.... so I can absolutely equate that to any good night out....

in other parts of the country where they charge much more for single men, could you say that?

if they charged this mythical "50 pounds" as some are saying in other parts of the country, could i then justify paying as much as that...probably not so much...

it "could" be seen as almost "cartel like" is it priced at that because it maximises profits ... or it is priced that way because of collusion???"

True

There is no car on this planet which justifies a price-tag of more than £150,000. No amount of engineering and design can cost more than that

So why are people buying cars costing more than a quarter of a million?

It is called supply and demand. Communist societies tried to eliminate this but disintegrated into a mess. They are now capitalists

I met a guy and he was moaning about the high prices clubs in London charge men. And he is correct. But, it is back to supply and demand

Even with free entry for women at clubs, the ratio is something like 1 woman for every 7 - 8 men. I think that tells the club owners that if they charged men and women the same, the ratio will distort even further

Now how many men will visit a swingers club where they only have to pay £20 instead of £50 but find that there is 1 woman for every 30 men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"this has almost turned into a pricing structure arguement but for men...lol

like i said before higher up... in the north east neither of the clubs charge more than 30 quid on any given night for single men.... so I can absolutely equate that to any good night out....

in other parts of the country where they charge much more for single men, could you say that?

if they charged this mythical "50 pounds" as some are saying in other parts of the country, could i then justify paying as much as that...probably not so much...

it "could" be seen as almost "cartel like" is it priced at that because it maximises profits ... or it is priced that way because of collusion???

True

There is no car on this planet which justifies a price-tag of more than £150,000. No amount of engineering and design can cost more than that

So why are people buying cars costing more than a quarter of a million?

It is called supply and demand. Communist societies tried to eliminate this but disintegrated into a mess. They are now capitalists

I met a guy and he was moaning about the high prices clubs in London charge men. And he is correct. But, it is back to supply and demand

Now how many men will visit a swingers club where they only have to pay £20 instead of £50 but find that there is 1 woman for every 30 men?"
They do for gangbangs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"this has almost turned into a pricing structure arguement but for men...lol

like i said before higher up... in the north east neither of the clubs charge more than 30 quid on any given night for single men.... so I can absolutely equate that to any good night out....

in other parts of the country where they charge much more for single men, could you say that?

if they charged this mythical "50 pounds" as some are saying in other parts of the country, could i then justify paying as much as that...probably not so much...

it "could" be seen as almost "cartel like" is it priced at that because it maximises profits ... or it is priced that way because of collusion???

True

There is no car on this planet which justifies a price-tag of more than £150,000. No amount of engineering and design can cost more than that

So why are people buying cars costing more than a quarter of a million?

It is called supply and demand. Communist societies tried to eliminate this but disintegrated into a mess. They are now capitalists

I met a guy and he was moaning about the high prices clubs in London charge men. And he is correct. But, it is back to supply and demand

Now how many men will visit a swingers club where they only have to pay £20 instead of £50 but find that there is 1 woman for every 30 men?"

Actually several of my local clubs charge between 20 and 30 quid and rule is 1 guy to every couple or single lady

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Now how many men will visit a swingers club where they only have to pay £20 instead of £50 but find that there is 1 woman for every 30 men?

Actually several of my local clubs charge between 20 and 30 quid and rule is 1 guy to every couple or single lady "

so then where are these clubs that are charging men this mythical "50 quid" or is that a figure that has been plucked out of thin air?

wouldn't it be the best thing then for men to boycott these clubs, because nothing will change until owners are hit in the pocket.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know of clubs that charge a lot... I tend not to go to them often as I find that the guys seem to feel that high entry fee equals entitlement...

I know first visit to lc or chams will be more than 50quid for a single guy. But unsure on the others.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Actually several of my local clubs charge between 20 and 30 quid and rule is 1 guy to every couple or single lady "

And houses are sold there for £100,000 and not for £1,000,000 like in London

The clubs here are charging in proportion to their rental and rates charges

The question is not one of that London clubs charge men £50 or £40 and clubs in the North charge men £20 or £30 but that neither (or atleast not many in London) charge women anything

And the OP was implying that women who attend for free are being prostituted by club owners

I have been to these clubs where on occasions, I have not interacted, because I only get turned on by tall, fit men and no such specimens were available. Hardly a prostitute or being prostituted!!!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I know first visit to lc or chams will be more than 50quid for a single guy. But unsure on the others. "

thats a different arguement.. and hits on one of my bugbears which is membership and entrance charges on a first visit.... which actually I think deter people from giving it a go (and that applies to both single men and couples) and deter people who don't live in the areas from going because if I am only going to be in the area lets say once/twice a year at most... I can't justify those prices

if people has to pay for membership on the 2nd visit to see if they liked it 1st time round before committing.... or if they had both membership and non-membership prices so people could see the advantage in savings if they were to take up the membership then I think clubs would see an increase in people at least giving it a go......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually most clubs up here I've found it was between 5 and 10quid for women. Attic is 5quid, paradise is the same.. to recently chams was 8quid.

I just think that people have to accept this is how it is. If I was expected to pay 20quid I wouldn't go. Nor would most of my female friends. Same as at many vanilla night clubs x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Entry for women is free, for couples I think it was £30 and for men I think it was £50

Anyway, a lot of other women stopped going there. The couples followed and they were left with, what has been described before, a 'gay sauna'

The women stopped going because they had to pay £5???!!!

"Not being big-headed but why should I pay to go to a club when I can choose from the 1000s of men here who will book a hotel of my choice, take me out for dinner followed by a night of passionate sex. And one of those men might even be your hubby

You sound lovely. There's a word for people like you......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP in your public pictures, 8 of 8 images are all of the woman of the couple.

That's clearly you acting as bait for either single guys or bi/lesbian women by your logic otherwise you'd have equal numbers of photos of both of you. Where's the photos of the fella to attract straight/bi ladies interested in him too?

You're probably going to say that you're only looking to encourage a certain type of person to contact you. Which is exactly what clubs do with pricing structures.

Either its not baiting at all, or the female of the couple is deliberately acting as bait herself

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"The women stopped going because they had to pay £5???!!!

You sound lovely. There's a word for people like you......

Why would someone pay when the club down the road is absolutely free? Maybe you would, but it is your money and you, just like me, have the right to take it wherever you want

There are several words for people like you too, but I won't list them here

You have already heard most of those, haven't you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So in short you begrudge paying a nominal entry fee to clubs and see nothing wrong with expecting men in here to wine and dine you and pay for hotels?

When all swingers clubs and nite clubs start charging women then I too will start paying. But why would I start paying for one club which charges whilst all others are free

Would you pay £500 for a dress at Selfridges when the same dress is available at Miss Selfridges for £200?"

Ignoring the fact I don't wear dresses, that analogy is massively flawed

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Would you pay £500 for a dress at Selfridges when the same dress is available at Miss Selfridges for £200?

Ignoring the fact I don't wear dresses, that analogy is massively flawed"

Why is it flawed? It simply states that people (men, women, couples) will pay the least that they have to for the same or very similar product or service

So how is a swingers club different in that respect?

I have a choice of swingers clubs and all are pretty much equidistant from me. All pretty much offer the same facilities and services for me. One decides to start charging women whilst the other does not. What would make me prefer the one which charges over the others?

With couples it might be different (I don't really know). I have noticed that many start to form friendships with other couples of one kind or another at these venues. And that might be the case for other women and men too; I just don't know

But I go to these places on a whim to have sex with someone I take a short-term fancy to and that is that. I have no intention whatsoever to meet that person again. If it happens, then it happens. But the intent is not there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Actually most clubs up here I've found it was between 5 and 10quid for women. Attic is 5quid, paradise is the same.. to recently chams was 8quid.

I just think that people have to accept this is how it is. If I was expected to pay 20quid I wouldn't go. Nor would most of my female friends. Same as at many vanilla night clubs x"

i have to be honest if i had to pay what single guys paid i wouldn't go as a single women I'd find a singe guy to go in with and go halves, I think a lot of single women would do the same, I think if they upped the cost for women single women in clubs would be few and far between which is ok for couples looking for couples but some people actually want to meet single women in clubs

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Afraid he wouldnt be interested darling but your post has yet again proved our point and your now enhancing that point by saying you would change clubs(a club you loved with excellent facilities) for the price of a big mac meal

coupled with the other statements you made on this thread as in men expected to pay for your company my hubby would go nowhere within a mile of you!!

How do you know that? Is that what he said to you?

and you believed it

It is expected because it is the norm in society and not just at swingers clubs

If one were to run statistics on this website on how many messages each group receives (not replies) per day then it might go something like this:

Bi-females: 200

females: 100

Couples: 30

Males: 1

That is represented in inverse proportions in the real world attendance at clubs of any kind

Take a chill-pill and accept the fact that you as a couple and other men will have to fund my attendance at a club. But if you left your hubby at home, then then you can enjoy the same benefits as me

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Yes he shares my _iews and if he was going to pay would rather pay an escort of his choice and not a woman who would not pay 5 pounds towards a good night

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Actually several of my local clubs charge between 20 and 30 quid and rule is 1 guy to every couple or single lady

And houses are sold there for £100,000 and not for £1,000,000 like in London

The clubs here are charging in proportion to their rental and rates charges

The question is not one of that London clubs charge men £50 or £40 and clubs in the North charge men £20 or £30 but that neither (or atleast not many in London) charge women anything

And the OP was implying that women who attend for free are being prostituted by club owners

I have been to these clubs where on occasions, I have not interacted, because I only get turned on by tall, fit men and no such specimens were available. Hardly a prostitute or being prostituted!!!"
Ithink you will find properties in the north reflect those of hampshire and the home counties and you can pick up very little for 100k

research Gosforth and Jesmond dear and calm down,We just have more disposable income than Londoners

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Yes he shares my _iews and if he was going to pay would rather pay an escort of his choice and not a woman who would not pay 5 pounds towards a good night"

An escort will meet him because she has to; I have a choice and therefore, sorry, not interested

By the way, I guess he doesn't mind 'pimping' you with only your photographs on your profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Afraid he wouldnt be interested darling but your post has yet again proved our point and your now enhancing that point by saying you would change clubs(a club you loved with excellent facilities) for the price of a big mac meal

coupled with the other statements you made on this thread as in men expected to pay for your company my hubby would go nowhere within a mile of you!!

How do you know that? Is that what he said to you?

and you believed it

It is expected because it is the norm in society and not just at swingers clubs

If one were to run statistics on this website on how many messages each group receives (not replies) per day then it might go something like this:

Bi-females: 200

females: 100

Couples: 30

Males: 1

That is represented in inverse proportions in the real world attendance at clubs of any kind

Take a chill-pill and accept the fact that you as a couple and other men will have to fund my attendance at a club. But if you left your hubby at home, then then you can enjoy the same benefits as me

Yes he shares my _iews and if he was going to pay would rather pay an escort of his choice and not a woman who would not pay 5 pounds towards a good night"

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"p.s Jaydees is free for ladies

So is Chams at the moment, having a trial to see whether they can interest more single ladies to come and use the facilities

I rest my case,as weve said from the off.

Why cant it be the other way round?

If there are no men there would be no women,the club prices should be equal for all sexes across the board and the fact that chams and jaydees are free for single women proves our "bait"point

Bait as in to get the single men in and paying 50 quid for the chance and we are stating chance of a fuck.

Clubs main selling points are not the decor or the pool or the hot tub or dungeon,a clubs selling point is how many willing wet fannies it can offer on a club night to entice the men

You can 'rest your case' all you like.

It doesn't make you right.

Encouraging an under-represented gender to visit clubs does not make anyone bait.

Yet week in week out people still go!

AIts all horse shit really....club f has limited male places for Saturdays controlling the number of males,now all clubs could do that without the need to fleece men and couples to a certain degree"

Club F

Annual Membership fees

£25.00 per couple.

£25.00 per single guy.

£10.00 per single girl.

Entry on a Friday:

Couples £15

Single males £20

Single females. Free

Entry on a Saturday:

Couples £20

Single males £30 (limited numbers)

Single females £5

Xtasia

Annual membership:

Couples and single females £10

Single males £25

Entry Fridays:

Couples £15

Single males £30

Single females Free

Entry Saturdays:

Couples £25

Single females £10

Two examples. I could spend a while researching membership/entry fees. But I won't.

I've never been to any of these mythical clubs with sky high entry or membership fees for single men. Having been to clubs alone I've never felt ripped off, or unfairly treated. As others who are regular club goers have said - they also don't feel ripped off.

Nor do I resent single women getting in for free - as we're not looking to meet them why would we? The comment above re couples only wanting to meet single females and not males? Utter bollocks. If that were true why would couples bother going on mixed nights where single men are present? Why would they not just go on Saturdays?

To the poster who wouldn't pay a fiver to go to a club? That says as much about the attitude of some as it does the alleged attitude of guys expecting sex BECAUSE they've paid.

As I said before - there are plenty of people who visit clubs regularly who kick off far less about prices and entry rules than those that don't. And the club scene goes on.

As it always will.

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