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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club. Do people like the social side as well as the swinging? Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy. Hot tubs and swinging pools a must? Big rooms or small rooms? Membership or pay per visit? I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club Thanks " Strongbow | |||
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck" There is such a thing as a Temporary Event Notice. Where anyone may hold up to 12 events per year in a certain place and sell alcohol, play music etc etc. you apply to the local council and send copies to the local police. The only grounds for objection are if it would cause a disturbance of the peace, i.e. violence or lots if noise. This is how village days etc are able to have beer tents and wedding organisers can sell alcohol at the wedding if that's what the couple wish | |||
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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club. Do people like the social side as well as the swinging? Yes a good lounge area, pool table too Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy. Not overly fussed for party nights, but they get busy so good for business Hot tubs and swinging pools a must? YES YES YES Big rooms or small rooms? a mix of both but more smaller rooms rather than a few big ones Membership or pay per visit? Pay per visit I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club Thanks " | |||
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"Hi thrill, yep it was such a nice little place, out of the way but the local council made it so hard they gave up" Was that meant for me? | |||
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"Decent showers, changing rooms and lockers!" This! And also air con, nothing worse than having to end a fun session early due to it being too hot! | |||
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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club. Do people like the social side as well as the swinging? Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy. Hot tubs and swinging pools a must? Big rooms or small rooms? Membership or pay per visit? I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club Thanks " I suppose you could start with what you have liked and disliked about clubs you've been to and build from there around others experiences, I know some people who own and run clubs have been on tours of lots of other places to see what works and doesn't work and if you're not setting yourselves up in rivalry to them, I'm sure some people will be more than happy to pass on tips about how they have managed with the legalities and how some things are more trouble than they're worth... For us, a hot tub or pool is a must, social areas as I'm reluctant to go to clubs that insist you undress on entering, good lockers and private play rooms along with public areas | |||
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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club. Do people like the social side as well as the swinging? Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy. Hot tubs and swinging pools a must? Big rooms or small rooms? Membership or pay per visit? I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club Thanks " Blimey..Me too! Nowhere near Doncaster I hope? | |||
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"I was thinking strongbow on tap!!! Would need a few people to help is use a barrel tho. Apparently we would have a slim chance of getting a licence tho. Il have the ice and fridges at the ready tho, so bring you own ??" An ice-cold Strongbow plunge-pool next to the hot-tub, to cool down in... ...and a no-drinking in the plunge-pool policy... | |||
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"Should it be expect" Oohhh.... glad to see another spelling and grammar snob like me, ha ha ha. As to the club, better changing rooms and shower facilities would attract us. (Also a range of themed playrooms?) X | |||
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"I was thinking strongbow on tap!!! Would need a few people to help is use a barrel tho. Apparently we would have a slim chance of getting a licence tho. Il have the ice and fridges at the ready tho, so bring you own ??" Too far to carry it | |||
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"Ah now that's a good idea. Didn't realise that licence was available Thankyou!!! T sorry to hear you had the leave a club early I will take the smoking area into consideration " To be fair, why would you even post on here when you haven't even already done mountains of "quiet" homework on the subject?? Canvassing for opinion is fine but it costs nothing to do some simple research. You have one chance to make a first impression, and yours is now of someone who's just had a quiet lunch hour, been doing a few sums in their head while eating a cheese and pickle dab which and thought "I can do that".... There are previous threads on this, start there. No one knows your reading them, then when you come on canvassing for opinions you'll appear to have a clue what your talking about. D | |||
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"Ah now that's a good idea. Didn't realise that licence was available Thankyou!!! T sorry to hear you had the leave a club early I will take the smoking area into consideration " You're going to need much better knowledge of licences: Alcohol, entertainment, sexual venue, sexual entertainment, and all the extras that come with those as just a start | |||
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"Ah now that's a good idea. Didn't realise that licence was available Thankyou!!! T sorry to hear you had the leave a club early I will take the smoking area into consideration You're going to need much better knowledge of licences: Alcohol, entertainment, sexual venue, sexual entertainment, and all the extras that come with those as just a start" you said it so much better than me. D | |||
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"If you build it , they will cum . " er, not necessarily. | |||
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"Air conditioning, Large hot tub/jacuzzi, Plenty rooms, with large beds, well equipped dungeon, open play areas, pool table, secure, outdoor, heated smoking area. Large changing rooms, Large shower areas, cleaning products in rooms. Regular GUM clinic at the club, for those who are too worried about visiting one. " All good stuff, but all pales into insignificance when compared to the most important element to any club, namely WHO (not what) you have, especially in "front-of-house". The person who meets and greets, gives a first impression and makes a guest feel welcome is the biggest key to success or failure. I can think of club owners / managers who felt that any "punter" was fair game to their own personal lusts. Likewise I can remember owners who would argue and fight in front of members. On the other hand I can think of owners who have become legends for their friendliness and welcoming of people to their clubs. Guess which clubs have folded and which are resounding successes as a result of such characters? At the end of the day, your club will be a people thing. The people who you have to run the club far outweigh the value of the "things" that you have to offer. | |||
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"Hi guys. Thanks for all your inputs. We will take all these into consideration when starting everything up. We would hope to be up and running for a New Year's Eve party " Your license applications will likely take longer than three months to be approved, unless you mean new years eve 2015/2016 | |||
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"Panda, sorry darling I'm not upto date on the licence side of things. However one of our partners will be dealing with all this. So I suppose we might have abit of a set back. Worse case surely we can open for free on New Year's Eve. Then it would just be like any other private house party wouldn't it? " Your council will likely see that as a commercial venture even if its free not a house party and will not be impressed | |||
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"Should it be expect Oohhh.... glad to see another spelling and grammar snob like me, ha ha ha. " Same here, but seriously, when I see businesses with signs and promo material written by someone who cannot spell or punctuate properly, I naturally wonder whether their hygiene regime, safety regs etc are being handled in the same slapdash manner. How long does it take to proof-read something you are using to generate money? (Oh, and I realise some people are dyslexic, but if that's the case then someone else should be doing the written stuff, in the same way you don't make a blind man your driver.) | |||
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"Seperat room for pee play enough for 10 15 ppl an lots of water " A piddling pool? | |||
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck" Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x | |||
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x" Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device | |||
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device" You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity. | |||
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity. " Having worked in a swinger club and a lap dancing club and talked about these things with the managers, the premises have to be granted a licence as a sexual venue, in the same way a takeaway needs to be granted a licence to be used as a takeaway and not someone's front room. Its not the activity, its the building. Its largely jumping through council hoops but its necessary. | |||
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity. Having worked in a swinger club and a lap dancing club and talked about these things with the managers, the premises have to be granted a licence as a sexual venue, in the same way a takeaway needs to be granted a licence to be used as a takeaway and not someone's front room. Its not the activity, its the building. Its largely jumping through council hoops but its necessary. " I have to jump in finally having chuckled at so much half truths, cobblers and fantasy information . Having run a fully licenced venue for swingers AND chaired the licence committee for 4 years, any premises licenced since the current legislation since 2005/6 you have only 2 options , a PRIVATE CLUB , which cannot run for profit OR a premises licence . It ONLY needs a sexual licence if there is ANY direct relationship between the payment of money and any sexual service or entertainment, swinging DOES NOT fall under this category , I guess if you think about it a travel lodge / hotel would be as likely to need it.....so I hope that clears it up ? Yes the police can enter but in 4 years we had 1 visit and he stayed for a drink ! The premises licence covers playing and performing music, entertainment and sale and supply of alcohol . | |||
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity. Having worked in a swinger club and a lap dancing club and talked about these things with the managers, the premises have to be granted a licence as a sexual venue, in the same way a takeaway needs to be granted a licence to be used as a takeaway and not someone's front room. Its not the activity, its the building. Its largely jumping through council hoops but its necessary. I have to jump in finally having chuckled at so much half truths, cobblers and fantasy information . Having run a fully licenced venue for swingers AND chaired the licence committee for 4 years, any premises licenced since the current legislation since 2005/6 you have only 2 options , a PRIVATE CLUB , which cannot run for profit OR a premises licence . It ONLY needs a sexual licence if there is ANY direct relationship between the payment of money and any sexual service or entertainment, swinging DOES NOT fall under this category , I guess if you think about it a travel lodge / hotel would be as likely to need it.....so I hope that clears it up ? Yes the police can enter but in 4 years we had 1 visit and he stayed for a drink ! The premises licence covers playing and performing music, entertainment and sale and supply of alcohol ." What about a DPS license too . | |||
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"From what I have read here, you need to go back to the drawing board. You need to gather your team, look at the skills you have between you, do a SHIT LOAD of research into running a swinging club and then decide if you have it in you. No disrepect but so many people think that it's easy to run a club...it isn't. It's not like opening a house up for a party or opening a pub up for drinks. It is so much more and you will not believe the hoops you will have to jump through to get permission from the council and licensing to run a club. Don't set yourself up to fail. Do all of the leg work now and get a real feel for how the place is going to run. Sit across the table with the council and before you disregard an alcohol licence, sit across the desk with the licencing guys and the police too. The more open you are about your activities, the more help you will get from the authorities. Make them your friends and allies. When you look into every little detail, you will realise that this game is a HUGE amount of work. The TEN notice that somebody mentioned earlier for the temporary sale of alcohol....just look at that form online and when you get to the 21st page, you may realise what you are up against. It's great getting ideas about what to put in a club, but get the foundations right first, otherwise I give you 3 months and you will be closed. This is friendly advice from somebody who works 80-90 hours a week running a club and has gone grey over the last 4 years! Vicky xxx" ;-) spot on xx | |||
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"From what I have read here, you need to go back to the drawing board. You need to gather your team, look at the skills you have between you, do a SHIT LOAD of research into running a swinging club and then decide if you have it in you. No disrepect but so many people think that it's easy to run a club...it isn't. It's not like opening a house up for a party or opening a pub up for drinks. It is so much more and you will not believe the hoops you will have to jump through to get permission from the council and licensing to run a club. Don't set yourself up to fail. Do all of the leg work now and get a real feel for how the place is going to run. Sit across the table with the council and before you disregard an alcohol licence, sit across the desk with the licencing guys and the police too. The more open you are about your activities, the more help you will get from the authorities. Make them your friends and allies. When you look into every little detail, you will realise that this game is a HUGE amount of work. The TEN notice that somebody mentioned earlier for the temporary sale of alcohol....just look at that form online and when you get to the 21st page, you may realise what you are up against. It's great getting ideas about what to put in a club, but get the foundations right first, otherwise I give you 3 months and you will be closed. This is friendly advice from somebody who works 80-90 hours a week running a club and has gone grey over the last 4 years! Vicky xxx" | |||
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