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"As the female of a couple, i would like to say i love clubs , Big but.... I feel sometimes as prices are strangely high for guys , its almost like they expect you to put yourself on a plate, they have paid to enter the club so they expect to get laid, and they hound you, for girls this is off putting, I'm not a prostitute if i like someone i will play, if your not my cup of tea then tough, i owe you nothing, if your not getting a shag thats not my problem. " we went to a mixed night for a club experience which was a bit daunting for a newby, so we have been to couples night since. But have got enough courage to try a mixed night again, might go for my birthday next month to have a treat | |||
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"Cost is an issue (£60 a time for me at AbFabs), but the biggest thing that puts me off is cliques. Sometimes it's nigh-on impossible to even get a conversation going because you're not part of the group." It is a crazy amount, and if you go several times and no one plays with I wouldn't keep going. And most of the cliques don't play. Abfabs is best on a monday | |||
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"A few stories that are floating about have put us off so far." us too | |||
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"..Just one more point about the costs. We have found swinging the most costly hobby/pastime we have ever had. Not only the cost above but H also like to dress up for the occasion too so, dresses, shoes, basques....the list goes on...and on..lol" Looking at some of the outfits I've seen women wear at AbFabs, I shudder to think how much was spent on then. One set of nice lingerie probably costs more than I spent getting in, whereas I can wear pretty much the same as I wear to work, except that I have to make sure I'm wearing a good pair of boxers . | |||
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"We have found it easier to go to Clubs than meet people outside of them! For us it seems more pressured to commit to meeting someone and then needing to be in the mood - yes, we know we can always walk away, but in a club the atmosphere is usually conducive to feeling horny, the environment encourages it & if your lucky then you potentially have a choice of people to 'engage with' and then go as far as you're comfortable..., we now feel really relaxed, but definately turned on whenever we head to a club and have been getting more & more adventurous " Agree with this | |||
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"..Just one more point about the costs. We have found swinging the most costly hobby/pastime we have ever had. Not only the cost above but H also like to dress up for the occasion too so, dresses, shoes, basques....the list goes on...and on..lol" Mmm I don't think any outfit in my pics cost more than £10, stockings get snagged though! Shoes 1 rocking pair will last years x | |||
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"As the female of a couple, i would like to say i love clubs , Big but.... I feel sometimes as prices are strangely high for guys , its almost like they expect you to put yourself on a plate, they have paid to enter the club so they expect to get laid, and they hound you, for girls this is off putting, I'm not a prostitute if i like someone i will play, if your not my cup of tea then tough, i owe you nothing, if your not getting a shag thats not my problem. " | |||
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"We have found it easier to go to Clubs than meet people outside of them! For us it seems more pressured to commit to meeting someone and then needing to be in the mood - yes, we know we can always walk away, but in a club the atmosphere is usually conducive to feeling horny, the environment encourages it & if your lucky then you potentially have a choice of people to 'engage with' and then go as far as you're comfortable..., we now feel really relaxed, but definately turned on whenever we head to a club and have been getting more & more adventurous " Agreed I feel safer meeting at a club. Love Eureka's because you can stop overnight, take your own drinks and not expensive even for single guys who are welcome everyday/night | |||
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"I love going to clubs but tend to always kick the playing off as most people use it for more social then play" Same here , cliques can be difficult too . We much prefer nights with plenty of single guys and that pretty much rules out Saturday nights | |||
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"I like clubs i am familiar with, id like to try a few different ones but being single it puts me off, i don't like the idea of going somewhere new alone " Hi Naughty.....if you would like to go accompanied then get in touch...no strings attached...no expectations....maybe ffff at xtasia? | |||
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"Cost is an issue (£60 a time for me at AbFabs), but the biggest thing that puts me off is cliques. Sometimes it's nigh-on impossible to even get a conversation going because you're not part of the group." | |||
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"You should go. VA wss very friendly and lots of playing going on. If it was my thing I would take you but the lack of 1on1 space puts me off." Most clubs I've been to have had lots if 1 to 1 space to play as well as public areas. Guess all clubs are slightly different | |||
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"After running a newbie night, starting to get an idea of why people have never been to a club, anyone on forums care to comment also " Just read the whole thread through. The usual reasons of expense (single male entry/membership/travel), cliques, things people have heard (never understand that one - people have their own opinions, preferences and often simply talk crap!) and other common themes. As you say you recently hosted a newbie night - Curious as to why you think it is? A | |||
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"The reasons are in our opinion numerous, but common themes appear 1. It will be like an orgy (not true) 2. We will be pushed into doing something we don't want to do (not true) 3. The regulars will look down on us newbies or not talk to us (sometimes, at some clubs, but not on our nights) 4. We might see someone we know (very slim chance but they are there for the same reason) 5. No one will talk to us (just try to engage with people like in the pub) 6. I'm just nervous (that's why we run a newbie night) Too expensive, can't get a sitter, too far away from any clubs, heard rumours about a certain club, can't do anything about those. " Pretty much what I expected! You can lead a horse to water......... A | |||
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"We don't drive and so rely on public transport. Taxi's can get very expensive and unless we leave early for last trains we're stuck getting a hotel. This teamed with the entry fee's, drinks and everything else can make for a very expensive night/weekend. " In a nutshell! | |||
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"Some say they don't go because too many guys, not enough guys, so why not pick the correct night? " Because you never know how many guys will be there til you go. To respond to the OP, nothing puts me off visiting clubs initially. I would never not go because of what people say, or what I read on the review section. I visit clubs with an open mind (and legs) and decide whether to re-visit after that. | |||
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"For me it's the fear of the unknown, or if it's really what we're/I'm looking for . . Catch 22 I suppose . . " No catch 22 just try a club see if you like it, then try another see if you like that one | |||
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"Some say they don't go because too many guys, not enough guys, so why not pick the correct night? Because you never know how many guys will be there til you go. To respond to the OP, nothing puts me off visiting clubs initially. I would never not go because of what people say, or what I read on the review section. I visit clubs with an open mind (and legs) and decide whether to re-visit after that." Sorry I meant certain nights are set up with lots of single guys some nights just couples and single ladies, go on a night appropriate for your wants. | |||
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"Single women/couples on here being rude to single guys. It kind of makes one think single guys are treated like that at clubs, especially if they are new to the scene" im never rude to single guys best nights for me have been when a guy has spotted me come over said hello ,started chatting then i will leave you to guess the rest ,top nights for me need some more like that !!! | |||
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"For me it's the fear of the unknown, or if it's really what we're/I'm looking for . . Catch 22 I suppose . . " You're half an hour from a venue offering free entry for a whole weekend next month. No membership required either. Can't think of a better opportunity to try a club! A | |||
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"Wot puts me off is I don't really know where my nearest 1 is and how do u go about getting in do u just walk in or av u gotta get a ticket I just don't know lol " You can check out the clubs in the club sections on this site, perhaps look in the south west section follow club links and either email or phone clubs that you like and you can find out there entrance criteria | |||
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"We have found it easier to go to Clubs than meet people outside of them! For us it seems more pressured to commit to meeting someone and then needing to be in the mood - yes, we know we can always walk away, but in a club the atmosphere is usually conducive to feeling horny, the environment encourages it & if your lucky then you potentially have a choice of people to 'engage with' and then go as far as you're comfortable..., we now feel really relaxed, but definately turned on whenever we head to a club and have been getting more & more adventurous Agreed I feel safer meeting at a club. Love Eureka's because you can stop overnight, take your own drinks and not expensive even for single guys who are welcome everyday/night " Totally agree about Eureka's. Have been a few times, got lucky some nights not on others, although have always found someone to talk to (me being on my own). Cost is not prohibitive either, this Friday and Sunday is £20 and that includes use of the spa facilities. Also no one hassles me so I find it a very relaxing environment. | |||
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"After running a newbie night, starting to get an idea of why people have never been to a club, anyone on forums care to comment also " I have often frequented Kestrel's all day, 10-5, but always taken a lady with me and chatted socially but only played with each other. I adore the place. Of the 20+ times I have been there 5 were awful, hounded by herds of wanking men, on occasion begging to be let in the shack. Luckily it did not happen until a later visit, if that had been the first time that would have put me off. The cliques, they are not inclusive at all, strange. I suspect you have to appear a dozen times and they might open. Never bothered. Never stayed for Abfab, no idea why, just not sure of whether it would be as much fun. | |||
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"For me it's the fear of the unknown, or if it's really what we're/I'm looking for . . Catch 22 I suppose . . You're half an hour from a venue offering free entry for a whole weekend next month. No membership required either. Can't think of a better opportunity to try a club! A" Thanks for the heads up . . . We'll see | |||
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"We have been as a couple to 3 clubs and I (male) have been to 2 on my own to check them out before we went. I agree it is nerve wracking going on your own the first time, but it is way easier than going to a vanilla pub or club and going uo to talk to people. As a single guy twice ( not playing), I had a great time chatting to girls, couples and guys - everyone is nervous and wanting the other person to make a move, just smile, be open, ask people what they want, accept no for what it is, not a personal slight. Clubs are great places to go, you don't have to drink and if you look at the Club section of this sight, most people are within 50 miles of at least one club - go out and enjoy!! " | |||
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"Live near youtopia and have considered going but the the thought of seeing a family member or friend take it any which way when I walk in makes me think Nah! " Wishes I lived near to any club as a single fem would make my life so much easyer lol( don't drive) and I have to rely on guys A to fancy going B picking me up and dropping me off only been twice to youtopia but enjoyed it been up an down England to many clubs with f/b over the time I been swinging | |||
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"As the female of a couple, i would like to say i love clubs , Big but.... I feel sometimes as prices are strangely high for guys , its almost like they expect you to put yourself on a plate, they have paid to enter the club so they expect to get laid, and they hound you, for girls this is off putting, I'm not a prostitute if i like someone i will play, if your not my cup of tea then tough, i owe you nothing, if your not getting a shag thats not my problem. " The pricing is wrong.....even possibly illegal...breaches sex discrimination laws of uality is in costs....singles should be same price for either sex...... | |||
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"God help anyone who ignores you " You best reply to my pm then lol | |||
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"Politics !! Ruins the scene! " | |||
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"Most club fees are far too high for single guys, a lot of people are divorced and have to support children and can,t afford the fees." A club in Birmingham charges £60 for single males £75 if youre first timer to get an id card...absolutely scandalous. | |||
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"Scared of looking like the creepy, pervy single male wall flower. " but if you are a social person... then you would talk to people anyway..... if you are a person who has trouble going up and talking to people then to be honest clubs are unlikely to be for you... if you have trouble talking to people in socialable situations then to be honest socials are unlikely to be for you.. the biggest mistake lots of people and especially guys is because you are in a club, you have to talk about sex.. or nothing.... mundane conversations and hello's tend to go a long way... just there are people who won't give you the time of day... but that is no different than anything else i hang outside because even though I don't smoke... smokers tend to be socialable and chatty.. the worst thing you can do is just stand around like a mute, or hover like some sort of silent ninja, couples can be as bad sitting in corners like lost sheep... mingle people.... mingle!!! | |||
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"Most club fees are far too high for single guys, a lot of people are divorced and have to support children and can,t afford the fees. A club in Birmingham charges £60 for single males £75 if youre first timer to get an id card...absolutely scandalous." that particular club is slightly more expensive as they provide women, you can pay less and take your chance on someone playing with you, or go there and pay little more for a guarantee shag | |||
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"Actually I like a naked orgy! Why would that put anybody off (assuming there are private spaces too). If you don't like the idea of people having sex a visit to a sex club probably won't suit!" | |||
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"Laughably I was once told by the owners of a (now defunct) club on these forums 'that you wouldn't wear jeans to a funeral or a job interview so why would you to a club' and that sort of stuffy attitude holds no appeal" Hahahaha, I'd reverse it be asking "but I wouldn't hold condoms in hope of a shag at either a job interview or a funeral either - am I to treat attendance of a swing club as I would a job interview or funeral??" | |||
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" " I like going to the pub or club, I can socialise and I like swinging, what's stopping me really?" " as a club newbie thats one of the big things that put me off! I am simply just not a big club/pub person. I basically have to be hammered before i can enjoy them. Add that to being far enough away that i'd have to make it a weekend plus having to walk in the door solo... Not sure i'll ever be able to visit one i would also echo the cost of sexy lingerie being an issue. Last time i thoughr about buying a full matching set all i could find was over £100. | |||
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"After running a newbie night, starting to get an idea of why people have never been to a club, anyone on forums care to comment also " I was going to go to your newbie night but I couldn't make it. I have been to clubs on my own but as a single guy it's easy to feel like the unwanted minority | |||
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"Cost is an issue (£60 a time for me at AbFabs), but the biggest thing that puts me off is cliques. Sometimes it's nigh-on impossible to even get a conversation going because you're not part of the group." try the north east clubs for that! We gave them a try and a second chance.....if your not a face in their crowd you may as well be in the bar next door | |||
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"Cost is an issue (£60 a time for me at AbFabs), but the biggest thing that puts me off is cliques. Sometimes it's nigh-on impossible to even get a conversation going because you're not part of the group. try the north east clubs for that! We gave them a try and a second chance.....if your not a face in their crowd you may as well be in the bar next door " I might just do that Make a project of it - get ignored and rejected at every club in Britain! | |||
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"I love going to cupids,it used to upset me when nothing happened,but know I just go and enjoy the jacuzzi and sauna,and have brew hopefully watch the couples in the viewing room fucking,I went last night there was nothing going on,only in the private rooms so nothing to watch and no lady's for the single guy,but I still did not mind nowt happened,just enjoyed the facilities ." My philosophy too! It was actually a result for me to be able to grope (with permission I hasten to add) a lovely lady in the jaccuzzi at Chams the last time I went! | |||
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"Cost is an issue (£60 a time for me at AbFabs), but the biggest thing that puts me off is cliques. Sometimes it's nigh-on impossible to even get a conversation going because you're not part of the group. try the north east clubs for that! We gave them a try and a second chance.....if your not a face in their crowd you may as well be in the bar next door " If the cliques don't embrace newbies then why do the cliques bother going to the club at all?. They may as well just all meet at one of their houses. Im going to a club on Friday and all this is putting me right off. I may as well go and find a prostitute. At least Im guaranteed a ride. Lol! | |||
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"Cost is an issue (£60 a time for me at AbFabs), but the biggest thing that puts me off is cliques. Sometimes it's nigh-on impossible to even get a conversation going because you're not part of the group. try the north east clubs for that! We gave them a try and a second chance.....if your not a face in their crowd you may as well be in the bar next door If the cliques don't embrace newbies then why do the cliques bother going to the club at all?. They may as well just all meet at one of their houses. Im going to a club on Friday and all this is putting me right off. I may as well go and find a prostitute. At least Im guaranteed a ride. Lol!" People at clubs do embrace newbies providing they act appropriately. Clubs are generally friendly places, however if you think you are guaranteed a fuck you would be better spending your money on an escort as you are entitled nor guaranteed anything with a club visit and going with a sense of entitlement could lead to a disappointing time | |||
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"Cost is an issue (£60 a time for me at AbFabs), but the biggest thing that puts me off is cliques. Sometimes it's nigh-on impossible to even get a conversation going because you're not part of the group. try the north east clubs for that! We gave them a try and a second chance.....if your not a face in their crowd you may as well be in the bar next door " True some people do tend to meet the same people every time you go to the clubs and it could possibly be a intimidating place for a newbie but at the end of the day if you dont start to talk you will never get anywhere JC x | |||
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" If the cliques don't embrace newbies then why do the cliques bother going to the club at all?. They may as well just all meet at one of their houses. Im going to a club on Friday and all this is putting me right off. I may as well go and find a prostitute. At least Im guaranteed a ride. Lol!" The cliques may have children being babysat at home Or maybe they don't want to meet people at home? I've seen club reviews from people who attended the same night as us and they complained how cliquey everyone was but we noticed a couple of those that we recognised didn't move from their spot in the corner all night and from what we saw made no effort to chat to anyone! crystal | |||
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