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"This thread should be stopped now, before it actually does do some commerciaql damage, rumours, help no one!" It's not a rumour | |||
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"and only a rival would post it on here. " I'm not sure what you are implying..... I was reading the local rag online and that was the headline story.:... I could have sworn that this was a forum discussing clubs....??? We have been to most clubs and hotels in Blackpool ...... | |||
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"and only a rival would post it on here. I'm not sure what you are implying..... I was reading the local rag online and that was the headline story.:... I could have sworn that this was a forum discussing clubs....??? We have been to most clubs and hotels in Blackpool ...... " Well I agree this is a forum for discussing clubs and when someone has publicly available knowledge such as this whether from the press or the council web site, then I for one appreciate knowing about it. Thanks for sharing the information. It will be interesting to see what happens regards this club. | |||
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"This thread should be stopped now, before it actually does do some commerciaql damage, rumours, help no one!" It isn't a rumour, it is in the public domain if you look for it. They are appealing with full support of the residents by the looks of it. | |||
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"I was going for the first time on Sunday, not sure now having seen the article " I thought one rule of the forums was not to name and shame, By scare mongering, already people are not going and the club will lose money. | |||
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" I thought one rule of the forums was not to name and shame, By scare mongering, already people are not going and the club will lose money. " They've been given a closure order, surely that will lose them more money | |||
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"I was going for the first time on Sunday, not sure now having seen the article I thought one rule of the forums was not to name and shame, By scare mongering, already people are not going and the club will lose money. " Same thing happened to Ab Fabs earlier this year but I don't recall anyone complaining about that then. If its a discussion about a swinging club in the swinging club forum then I suspect its allowed. | |||
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" By scare mongering, already people are not going and the club will lose money. " Would have thought being front page news in the local paper and a closure order by the local clowncil would have a more direct effect on trade than a discussion on here.....but I'm sure you know better...... Personally I hope he guy keeps the club open....the town is big enough for 2 clubs if not more and he seems to have invested a few bob in the place aswell..... | |||
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" By scare mongering, already people are not going and the club will lose money. Would have thought being front page news in the local paper and a closure order by the local clowncil would have a more direct effect on trade than a discussion on here.....but I'm sure you know better...... Personally I hope he guy keeps the club open....the town is big enough for 2 clubs if not more and he seems to have invested a few bob in the place aswell....." Local people are probably not customers, looking at the clubs reviews here , many people on this site are. I only know what is written here, from my own experience, I know shit sticks, and by highlighting a problem, it does no one any favours. | |||
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" By scare mongering, already people are not going and the club will lose money. Would have thought being front page news in the local paper and a closure order by the local clowncil would have a more direct effect on trade than a discussion on here.....but I'm sure you know better...... Personally I hope he guy keeps the club open....the town is big enough for 2 clubs if not more and he seems to have invested a few bob in the place aswell..... Local people are probably not customers, looking at the clubs reviews here , many people on this site are. I only know what is written here, from my own experience, I know shit sticks, and by highlighting a problem, it does no one any favours." but the local paper are only reporting fact.. that it is subject to a closing order.... which can be found on the council website... (took me two minutes to find it) I am sure that if the club wins the appeal... that will end up on a thread here as well.... as long as it is factual and not libelous.. I am still not sure what your issue is..... | |||
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"Hoepfully the club will win. If there is a gay sauna in Blackpool, we have no idea if there, but we are guessing the facilities are much the same and we would recommend the owners point out that if he is effectively running the same business for Hetrosexuals, why is it that the homosexual one is allowed to operate? This would be a very valid argument in any court case. " connections was originally a gay sauna. I agree with what your saying and the local residents seem to have no issues. I think one of the main issues is that it has been opening beyond the hours allowed. | |||
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"years ago and i mean years ago my ex and i used to visit a club in blackpool that was 2 houses knocked together , it eventually got shut down perhaps blackpool doesnt like swingers clubs " | |||
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"Hoepfully the club will win. If there is a gay sauna in Blackpool, we have no idea if there, but we are guessing the facilities are much the same and we would recommend the owners point out that if he is effectively running the same business for Hetrosexuals, why is it that the homosexual one is allowed to operate? This would be a very valid argument in any court case. " Yes, we hope the club wins as well. Although we have never visited this one it isn't good for the lifestyle in general if local councils are able to close clubs at will. | |||
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"there is a shut door time, after which surely its private time." No it's not. The people inside the club paid to enter the club, therefore they are customers. Plus should anything be charged for after midnight for example a cup of tea that would break the private time too. If of course the owner was able to demonstrate that anyone in the club after midnight was a guest and hadn't paid to be there without of course ushering them all out at 11.55pm and letting them back in at 12.05am then he'd potentially have a case that it's a private non business party but then I suspect the financials wouldn't stack up. The problem is if course today in the article he is quoted as saying that the club us open till 3am on sat/sun mornings. It's exactly the same with building a property. Flout the planning permission rules and the council have the power to pull the building down irrespective of how much it cost you to build it. The owners clearly an intelligent man whom owns a hotel and ran got election as a councillor. He clearly knows what he is doing and the risks he takes by not sticking to the planning permission regulations. Time will tell what happens but I suspect the only possibility of the club staying open would be by strict compliance with the council conditions. | |||
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"Hoepfully the club will win. If there is a gay sauna in Blackpool, we have no idea if there, but we are guessing the facilities are much the same and we would recommend the owners point out that if he is effectively running the same business for Hetrosexuals, why is it that the homosexual one is allowed to operate? This would be a very valid argument in any court case. connections was originally a gay sauna. I agree with what your saying and the local residents seem to have no issues. I think one of the main issues is that it has been opening beyond the hours allowed." i read it yesterday and agree with you | |||
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"With respect you are talking bollocks. Firstly the planning system does not allow an enforcing authority to demolish an existing building that has been in existence for a specified period of time. The owner can apply for a certificate of lawful use. The enforcing authority can however exercise certain controls, both licensing and planning as to the use a building can be put to.ISuspect its a licencing issue (private club) that the authority are using to want to cease the current activities. The owners should seek the advice of a specialist legal advisor. Knock the building down? what utter rubbish." If you'd read it properly I never said anything about knocking this building down. The assessment was simply that planning permission needs to be complied with. If a new building is built in the wrong place the council can indeed enforce its removal. The crux of this is simply that the club is knowingly breaking the planning permission it's been granted and whether or not it wins it's case may well depend on how much money they want to spend on lawyers. If the club had simply closed at the times it's meant to there would have been no case to answer. | |||
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"The key to this judging by the newspaper article is that the club flouts it's planning permission by regularly opening beyound the hours that it's agreed to. I seem to remember that the club was the subject of a forum thread when it opened where much of the argument was based around whether the club should stay open past it's permitted hours. As it appears in the argument in the paper fom the owner, the case that another Blackpool club (presumerably Infusions) allegedly doesn't have planning permission is irrelevant as the problem is Connections flouts its own planning permission and admit it. Surely the solution to this was and is for the club to open and close within it's permitted hours and to obtain planning permission to open til 3am in the proper manner. I've been to the club on the past and it appears to be a reasonable club with ambitious plans some of which can be seen to be happening. But if the owner continues to decide to flout the rules that he'll have agreed to in order to gave got the original planning permission passed then he is the author of his own downfall. " This seems very sensible. | |||
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"Sounds like a call to the owner would potentially assist, to see how we can help. Connections In Need may not get run in time, if an order is already in the making. It's also good for management to know how much they're supported, as just seeing endless news articles, forum posts is sure to add stress to an awful experience for them." | |||
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"Can totally understand the people who didn't turn up but don't understand the people continually knocking the place? " Not on this thread there isn't, in fact there seems a lot of support for it. | |||
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"The key to this judging by the newspaper article is that the club flouts it's planning permission by regularly opening beyound the hours that it's agreed to. I seem to remember that the club was the subject of a forum thread when it opened where much of the argument was based around whether the club should stay open past it's permitted hours. As it appears in the argument in the paper fom the owner, the case that another Blackpool club (presumerably Infusions) allegedly doesn't have planning permission is irrelevant as the problem is Connections flouts its own planning permission and admit it. Surely the solution to this was and is for the club to open and close within it's permitted hours and to obtain planning permission to open til 3am in the proper manner. I've been to the club on the past and it appears to be a reasonable club with ambitious plans some of which can be seen to be happening. But if the owner continues to decide to flout the rules that he'll have agreed to in order to gave got the original planning permission passed then he is the author of his own downfall. " I rest my case and people thought I had a vendetta all I wanted is for people to be aware of whats happening with this club | |||
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