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"Oi what is wrong with us older couples? Well apart from being old that is "There is nothing "wrong" with being whatever age you are, but you have to accept that younger people generally (not all by any means) prefer to play with those around their age, be it for aesthetic reasons, social reasons or the variety of other factors. Its just a preference like we all have so dont get offended  | |||
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"Can only comment for la chambre as it is the only club we have ever visited, fridays and saturdays there is generally a large number of couples/single under 40. We have certainly never felt out of place there and on the busier theme parties on saturdays there is loads of couples in 20's/30's "The reasons for that are twofold. The bigger, successful mainstream clubs fully understand and cater for the full spectrum of their client base. In the main Swingers understand embrace the inclusivity of the Swingeing ethos, are able to socialise in a club environment with folk of all ages etc and understand that they only HAVE to play with those they WANT to. None of that is rocket science | |||
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"Oi what is wrong with us older couples? Well apart from being old that is " | |||
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"Oi what is wrong with us older couples? Well apart from being old that is
There is nothing "wrong" with being whatever age you are, but you have to accept that younger people generally (not all by any means) prefer to play with those around their age, be it for aesthetic reasons, social reasons or the variety of other factors.
Its just a preference like we all have so dont get offended "We were not offended just having a laugh. If we were not old we would not want to play with old people either | |||
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"Townhouse has an under 35's night " I was considering going there to pop my club cherry (as I'm quite terrified to go to another club and be a lil youngster surrounded by hungry middle aged women   ) (only joking)
Are (respectful, of course) single men well accepted during these nights? | |||
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"Younger couples want to play with us all the time, they wouldn't get a chance if they went to such a night. I find it odd that anyone would want a night that excluded over 35s?" Why is it odd? Isn't age just another part of what people find attractive like tall/short fat/thin ? | |||
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"Yes but those are physical characteristics. How is age something that you find attractive or not? So you are saying that (for example) a 36 year old is less attractive than a 35 year old?" Or is 53 less attractive than 52?  | |||
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"Younger couples want to play with us all the time, they wouldn't get a chance if they went to such a night. I find it odd that anyone would want a night that excluded over 35s?" Does make you wonder how some of these kids cope with everyday life, down the pub, at the shops or even at work. It must be a nightmare for the poor luvvies having to be around all those older people  | |||
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"Younger couples want to play with us all the time, they wouldn't get a chance if they went to such a night. I find it odd that anyone would want a night that excluded over 35s? Does make you wonder how some of these kids cope with everyday life, down the pub, at the shops or even at work. It must be a nightmare for the poor luvvies having to be around all those older people "Is it any wonder the younger crowd have concerns about the swinging lifestyle with attitudes like that ?? Swinging is for anyone regardless of age, creed , sexuality or preference. | |||
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"I can see the appeal of sometimes attending a club with persons of our own age. Simply because we want to play with people of a similar outlook There is nothing wrong with that. Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing. I don't understand the bitterness. " We have yet to attend a club where it was compulsory for anyone to play with anyone, that is truly the ultimate in Freedom of choice | |||
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" Swinging is for anyone regardless of age, creed , sexuality or preference. "Precisely | |||
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"Younger couples want to play with us all the time, they wouldn't get a chance if they went to such a night. I find it odd that anyone would want a night that excluded over 35s? Does make you wonder how some of these kids cope with everyday life, down the pub, at the shops or even at work. It must be a nightmare for the poor luvvies having to be around all those older people
Is it any wonder the younger crowd have concerns about the swinging lifestyle with attitudes like that ??
Swinging is for anyone regardless of age, creed , sexuality or preference. "
I fail to see why people seeking out clubs that they may enjoy more than others is seen in such a negative light by some people | |||
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"We used to have a pretty strict age related criteria as it's my wife who plays far more than me . However we have met and played with couples and singles from 19 - 65 and enjoyed it all , as have they , so in the club scenario age really is just a number for us . I can see why the op is asking though - if they are attracted to folk of a similar age it's a perfectly reasonable request ." +1 this
Its simple really its called PREFERNCE something that some on this site seem to forget is everyones right and choice on here lol | |||
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"Yeah,people who are out of someones preference often get shitty on here. Its a no brainer for us. For example if crazysexycool messged us or berol and stan from accrington .have a guess who we will want to meet? " Stick to your guns guys, its your preference and your choice and dont let anyone tell otherwise | |||
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"Yeah,people who are out of someones preference often get shitty on here. Its a no brainer for us. For example if crazysexycool messged us or berol and stan from accrington .have a guess who we will want to meet? " Berol and Stan I guess. Them cock blocking bastards been stealing our meets for years. | |||
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"As a single guy who would like to attend a club (as I've never been) I personally would rather attend and speak with people relatively ages with myself. Now don't get me wrong I know of quite a lot of very attractive people 40 plus, but in a group situation I think I'd rather a younger crowd. "Get yourself along to one of the very popular mainstream clubs like Chams or Xtasia and you will find the full spread of age groups in regular attendance | |||
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"Oi what is wrong with us older couples? Well apart from being old that is
There is nothing "wrong" with being whatever age you are, but you have to accept that younger people generally (not all by any means) prefer to play with those around their age, be it for aesthetic reasons, social reasons or the variety of other factors.
Its just a preference like we all have so dont get offended " couldnt have saud it better myself xx | |||
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"Oi what is wrong with us older couples? Well apart from being old that is
There is nothing "wrong" with being whatever age you are, but you have to accept that younger people generally (not all by any means) prefer to play with those around their age, be it for aesthetic reasons, social reasons or the variety of other factors.
Its just a preference like we all have so dont get offended We were not offended just having a laugh. If we were not old we would not want to play with old people either " | |||
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"We used to have a pretty strict age related criteria as it's my wife who plays far more than me . However we have met and played with couples and singles from 19 - 65 and enjoyed it all , as have they , so in the club scenario age really is just a number for us . I can see why the op is asking though - if they are attracted to folk of a similar age it's a perfectly reasonable request ." Is it a reasonable request? Is it simply through insecurity? Is it something more sinister? As a society we go out on a regular basis and socialise in pubs, clubs, restaurants, sports events the list is endless and I am struggling to think of to many places where adults are barred due to their age. Filling a club with under 35's is no guarantee of either a great night or the chance to socialise because there are just as many short/tall/fat/thin/gorgeous/fire damaged lego/smelly/clean/honest/cheats/quiet/pushy/polite/rude under 35's as there are over 35's This age thing is a fairly new phenomenon and is currently being pandered to by a couple of clubs who are desperate to get bums on seats. There is absolutely nothing altruistic going its simply about making money. Ask yourself how long it will be before the small minority of people who seem to want to separate themselves from the mainstream swinging society decide that the Under 35 thing is good but would be better without over weight people? Or the Under 25's want Under 25 nights? Where does it stop? The only saving grace here is that the tried and tested venues will continue as they do, full most weekends of genuine swingers enjoying each others company and playing with those they choose to play with like adults all over the world do | |||
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"We used to have a pretty strict age related criteria as it's my wife who plays far more than me . However we have met and played with couples and singles from 19 - 65 and enjoyed it all , as have they , so in the club scenario age really is just a number for us . I can see why the op is asking though - if they are attracted to folk of a similar age it's a perfectly reasonable request . Is it a reasonable request? Is it simply through insecurity? Is it something more sinister? As a society we go out on a regular basis and socialise in pubs, clubs, restaurants, sports events the list is endless and I am struggling to think of to many places where adults are barred due to their age. Filling a club with under 35's is no guarantee of either a great night or the chance to socialise because there are just as many short/tall/fat/thin/gorgeous/fire damaged lego/smelly/clean/honest/cheats/quiet/pushy/polite/rude under 35's as there are over 35's This age thing is a fairly new phenomenon and is currently being pandered to by a couple of clubs who are desperate to get bums on seats. There is absolutely nothing altruistic going its simply about making money. Ask yourself how long it will be before the small minority of people who seem to want to separate themselves from the mainstream swinging society decide that the Under 35 thing is good but would be better without over weight people? Or the Under 25's want Under 25 nights? Where does it stop? The only saving grace here is that the tried and tested venues will continue as they do, full most weekends of genuine swingers enjoying each others company and playing with those they choose to play with like adults all over the world do "Yes it is a reasonable request and the suggestion of something more sinister is frankly appalling ! The younger generation have every right to explore this lifestyle and every right to preference the same as the rest of us. If anything its the job of the older people to welcome the younger generation in and be respectful of them, without them as in life it will wither away !! Clubs that are catering for the younger age group are simply moving with the times instead of being stuck in a time warp back in the 60' and 70's !! Personally i think you have a very narrow vision. | |||
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" I don’t think that threads like these are about age but more about finding somewhere where the young, sexy, slim and attractive people hang out. " Tongue in cheek here
So now its only Under 35 Sexy Slim and Attractive people?
So no young BBW's, no young over weight couples, no bulldogs licking shit of a thistle, in fact if you are not pretty you are not getting in............
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" Yes it is a reasonable request and the suggestion of something more sinister is frankly appalling ! The younger generation have every right to explore this lifestyle and every right to preference the same as the rest of us. If anything its the job of the older people to welcome the younger generation in and be respectful of them, without them as in life it will wither away !! Clubs that are catering for the younger age group are simply moving with the times instead of being stuck in a time warp back in the 60' and 70's !! Personally i think you have a very narrow vision. " So let me just get this right, its the job of us oldies to welcome the younger generation in and respect them........................while they go about organising nights where they actively exclude us.... I can almost taste the irony
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" thank you for a nice reply "There was nothing wrong with your original request so wherever this thread ends up don’t lose track of that. | |||
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"Not sure what the age thing has to do with having a good time, if you think younger people are more sexy then I'm not so sure as there are women in there 50s with better figures than some in there 20s on here," It's a preference thing as some young people prefer to play with their own age group | |||
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"What are your views on the best club for younger couples? " In our experience, where we are almost always the youngest looking (not necessarily the youngest) we find it hard to find specific clubs or nights to cater for our tastes in younger others to play with. (we'll happily socialise with any age that we connect with) Phukt is not specifically designed for the younger clubber but by it';s very nature of hard pumping tunes and loud music, it will attract more younger club goers and ward off those older who are not necessarily into that type of night out - since it's basically an event set at nightclub style swingers club (xtasia) with a few play spaces. A more erotic club type like VA or Liberty Elite will attract a different type of clientele perhaps.. However we haven;t tried a number of club around the country (although have visited many) and find Liberty Elite "hotties" night to attract more younger clubbers whilst not being age discriminate to it's members as you get all ages on the night, but the theme is generally aimed at a younger club goer. We'll be there on Sat 5th Oct, maybe go try it for yourselves. | |||
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" Yes it is a reasonable request and the suggestion of something more sinister is frankly appalling ! The younger generation have every right to explore this lifestyle and every right to preference the same as the rest of us. If anything its the job of the older people to welcome the younger generation in and be respectful of them, without them as in life it will wither away !! Clubs that are catering for the younger age group are simply moving with the times instead of being stuck in a time warp back in the 60' and 70's !! Personally i think you have a very narrow vision. So let me just get this right, its the job of us oldies to welcome the younger generation in and respect them........................while they go about organising nights where they actively exclude us.... I can almost taste the irony
Top tip, visit a mainstream club on a weekend night and come back and let us all know if anything appears to be withering away "Lol !! exclusion doesnt come in to it and as we run events ourselves and have visited many clubs vanilla and lifestyle clubs. Its a natural process, people get older and leave the lifestyle , younger ones join and come in to the lifestyle ! Natural order and natural organic process its called LIFE !!! And yes you should welcome them in and respect them as you expect others to respect your preferences etc ! Simple really. | |||
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"Found this thread very useful, I'll definitely be looking out for these London events and townhouse "no singles to the events we posted (well not KK or fever anyway.. and you have to apply as a couple. | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan" sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences) | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences) "Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever. Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth. | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth."we'll we dont pedestal ourselves - no where on our profile it says were are fit, sexy or attractive. We even have our body type as average - we dont claim top be anything we may not be in the eyes of others. were sometimes outside peoples preferences - so what. we get turned down or whatever because we look too young. works both ways. Although most of our friends in the lifestyle are 10 years older than us, however there is generally a mutual thing of not being interested to play - maybe dabble.. just for a bit of fun. We look for younger nights to play with younger types, just as the OP is looking for. We respect people choices and dont get in a huff about it, if we're outside them. life is too short.. | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth."Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you? | |||
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"Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you?" Oh meeoowww lol  | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth.
Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you?"There are 2 things that stand out like a bulldogs bollocks here 1. Mainstream clubs are not buying into this cry for exclusivity, they have a happy and varied customer base who are clearly able to enjoy their mights out which fits their business model perfectly. 2. The grown ups are not asking for child free nights
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth.
Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you?
There are 2 things that stand out like a bulldogs bollocks here
1. Mainstream clubs are not buying into this cry for exclusivity, they have a happy and varied customer base who are clearly able to enjoy their mights out which fits their business model perfectly.
2. The grown ups are not asking for child free nights
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"I can't believe how asking which club is favoured by younger people. Its totally acceptable to want to play with people near your own age. Why would nik want some 57 ye old bloke with saggy bits humping her.someone older than her dad! In the pub you don't see 20 odd year old women with 55+ men. Accept that most younger couples want other younger couples,that's life. We won't be everyones cup of tea,I'm not going to get all defensive over it.I will move on and find other people." Anyway Libs sounds good Saturday night.  | |||
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), I'm not sure why you are denying this embrace it and yourselves but dont expect people 1/3 of your age or 10-15-20 years younger to embrace it in the name of an NSA sexual encounter.
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth.
Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you?
There are 2 things that stand out like a bulldogs bollocks here
1. Mainstream clubs are not buying into this cry for exclusivity, they have a happy and varied customer base who are clearly able to enjoy their mights out which fits their business model perfectly.
2. The grown ups are not asking for child free nights
"Who asked for child free nights? This is at least the second thread on this topic that you have derailled with a series of assumptions not at all based on what the OP was initially asking. So is this thread any different to BMFC nights? Or Greedy girl nights? Or BBW nights? Not all clubs are inclusive every night, plenty have nights that cater for more specific preferences. What is so wrong with people seeking out a club that they might enjoy? No one, despite what you are saying is asking for exclusive nights just clubs that attract a younger crowd. But the fact that Liberty Elite and The Lodge (to name but 2) do hold nights specifically catering for younger swingers suggests that despite your protestations there is a market for such nights? Oh and why such venom towards younger posters daring to express a preference? There are posts from older forumites on an almost daily basis stating they won't meet people young enough to be their children - what;s the difference? | |||
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" Oh and why such venom towards younger posters daring to express a preference? There are posts from older forumites on an almost daily basis stating they won't meet people young enough to be their children - what;s the difference? " There isnt one, nor is there one for anyone else who has a preference, the difference is this one excludes HIM and from the previous two threads he has posted the same stuff on its clear he simply cannot accept not being wanted because he is outside of some ones preference, I dread to think how he acts if someone turns him down because they might not be attracted to him etc if this is the way he plays up at the THOUGHT of not being able to go a club night. Its fairly sad all in all. | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth.
Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you?
There are 2 things that stand out like a bulldogs bollocks here
1. Mainstream clubs are not buying into this cry for exclusivity, they have a happy and varied customer base who are clearly able to enjoy their mights out which fits their business model perfectly.
2. The grown ups are not asking for child free nights
"Your no 2 actually shows you up as being very immature for your age. We like Libs as there is a younger crowd there. My top age is 40, I don't want to play with anyone older, simple as that and no need to slate anyone older or behave "childish" as you have in your posts. | |||
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"I can't believe how asking which club is favoured by younger people. Its totally acceptable to want to play with people near your own age. Why would nik want some 57 ye old bloke with saggy bits humping her.someone older than her dad! In the pub you don't see 20 odd year old women with 55+ men. Accept that most younger couples want other younger couples,that's life. We won't be everyones cup of tea,I'm not going to get all defensive over it.I will move on and find other people." Have you been to a club at all? Every club we have ever attended has a very strict set of rules to include No means No You don't have to anything you don't want to. You don't have to play with anyone you don't want to. This is not rocket science, in fact this is not even NVQ Level 1 swinging | |||
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"I can't believe how asking which club is favoured by younger people. Its totally acceptable to want to play with people near your own age. Why would nik want some 57 ye old bloke with saggy bits humping her.someone older than her dad! In the pub you don't see 20 odd year old women with 55+ men. Accept that most younger couples want other younger couples,that's life. We won't be everyones cup of tea,I'm not going to get all defensive over it.I will move on and find other people. Have you been to a club at all? Every club we have ever attended has a very strict set of rules to include No means No You don't have to anything you don't want to. You don't have to play with anyone you don't want to. This is not rocket science, in fact this is not even NVQ Level 1 swinging "Yes I can vouch that they have! Has nothing to do with not having to play with anyone, it is that if you know you are likely to meet people you prefer you have a higher chance of finding someone you want to play with!! | |||
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"So a couple quite reasonably ask about clubs for people their same age and once again MisterDelight57 turns up and gets fairly insulting again, its almost as if you're really struggling with your own age and railing against it. People have preference and I'm not sure why some of you older folk seem unable to accept this without a) getting offended b) getting quite insulting c) comparing it to nazi Germany or some other sort of oppression. Being older does not automatically mean you're "less fit" uglier or anything else but most people's bodys and minds change with age (most mature a bit "most" clearly not all though ), I'm not sure why you are denying this embrace it and yourselves but dont expect people 1/3 of your age or 10-15-20 years younger to embrace it in the name of an NSA sexual encounter.
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" We like Libs as there is a younger crowd there. My top age is 40, I don't want to play with anyone older, simple as that and no need to slate anyone older or behave "childish" as you have in your posts. " Does Libs have an age limit on the nites you visit? We like Chams, we have an age limit of no one younger than 45 ish. We generally manage to find folk who fit that need and are not in the least bit offended, scared, intimidated by anyone younger than us | |||
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" We like Libs as there is a younger crowd there. My top age is 40, I don't want to play with anyone older, simple as that and no need to slate anyone older or behave "childish" as you have in your posts. Does Libs have an age limit on the nites you visit? We like Chams, we have an age limit of no one younger than 45 ish. We generally manage to find folk who fit that need and are not in the least bit offended, scared, intimidated by anyone younger than us "Lmao you just dont get it do you. | |||
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" No one, despite what you are saying is asking for exclusive nights just clubs that attract a younger crowd. But the fact that Liberty Elite and The Lodge (to name but 2) do hold nights specifically catering for younger swingers suggests that despite your protestations there is a market for such nights? Oh and why such venom towards younger posters daring to express a preference? There are posts from older forumites on an almost daily basis stating they won't meet people young enough to be their children - what;s the difference? " I cant speak for Libs but as we have visited the Lodge on several occasions I refer you to an answer I gave earlier about it being a bums on seats exercise
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" I cant speak for Libs but as we have visited the Lodge on several occasions I refer you to an answer I gave earlier about it being a bums on seats exercise
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" We like Libs as there is a younger crowd there. My top age is 40, I don't want to play with anyone older, simple as that and no need to slate anyone older or behave "childish" as you have in your posts. Does Libs have an age limit on the nites you visit? We like Chams, we have an age limit of no one younger than 45 ish. We generally manage to find folk who fit that need and are not in the least bit offended, scared, intimidated by anyone younger than us "No but you have it in a nutshell there - you have an age limit of no one younger than 45, so why shouldn't us youngers ones want to go to a club with people our own age & it will have no affect on you as you wouldn't want to attend  and clearly you can state your preference and that is ok but not others
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" Sorry but it would appear the subtlety of my argument has somehow insulted you. At no point in this thread or any other thread have I suggested that anyone SHOULD play with anyone. In fact I have gone to great lengths to point out that club rules specifically prohibit such thoughts "No you resorted to name calling and stating you have a preference of no one under 45! | |||
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" No but you have it in a nutshell there - you have an age limit of no one younger than 45, so why shouldn't us youngers ones want to go to a club with people our own age & it will have no affect on you as you wouldn't want to attend and clearly you can state your preference and that is ok but not others
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"So a couple quite reasonably ask about clubs for people their same age and once again MisterDelight57 turns up and gets fairly insulting again, its almost as if you're really struggling with your own age and railing against it. People have preference and I'm not sure why some of you older folk seem unable to accept this without a) getting offended b) getting quite insulting c) comparing it to nazi Germany or some other sort of oppression. Being older does not automatically mean you're "less fit" uglier or anything else but most people's bodys and minds change with age (most mature a bit "most" clearly not all though ), I'm not sure why you are denying this embrace it and yourselves but dont expect people 1/3 of your age or 10-15-20 years younger to embrace it in the name of an NSA sexual encounter.
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Sorry I'm not sure you understood the point i was making as you appear to be contradicting yourself (though granted not for the first time) You said this:
1. Mainstream clubs are not buying into this cry for exclusivity, they have a happy and varied customer base who are clearly able to enjoy their mights out which fits their business model perfectly.
And the point that i was making is that at least 2 mainstream clubs do in fact offer age restricted nights. Which pretty much discredits your claim."I cant speak for Libs but comparing the Lodge to Chams or AbFabs etc is a real apples and oranges thing so no real contradictions going on there | |||
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"I can't believe how asking which club is favoured by younger people. Its totally acceptable to want to play with people near your own age. Why would nik want some 57 ye old bloke with saggy bits humping her.someone older than her dad! In the pub you don't see 20 odd year old women with 55+ men. Accept that most younger couples want other younger couples,that's life. We won't be everyones cup of tea,I'm not going to get all defensive over it.I will move on and find other people." Good for you, I think its a great idea to have a club/night for the young people and I did say so when it was first suggested by a club, that also deteriorated into a heated debate. Don't take any notice, you do what you feel is right. Some young people don't want to be around us oldies and equally us oldies feel uncomfortable getting naked around you. No big deal is it and certainly nothing sinister it it, just a preference | |||
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" No but you have it in a nutshell there - you have an age limit of no one younger than 45, so why shouldn't us youngers ones want to go to a club with people our own age & it will have no affect on you as you wouldn't want to attend and clearly you can state your preference and that is ok but not others
"Again the subtlety of my point is being missed. We have always gone to clubs with the expectation of finding people we would like to play with and accepting there will be folk there that don't fit that bill. For us the idea of setting an age limit of under 35 OR over 35 only flies completely in the face of the swinging ethos and we would never support either one. Like I said the major players in the Club business also seem to follow that thinking which for us is how it should be | |||
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" As I said earlier (though directed at someone else), the hypocricy of people happy to state their own preferences but slating others when it means they may get excluded is breathtaking. Particularly when they try and claim that they are the openminded ones. unbelievable" Hypocrisy, fuck me readers but there is an absolute Grand Canyon of a gap between setting an Age Limit for entry to a club and deciding if allowed inside who you would like to play with | |||
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"You still have not explained why you think it was possibly sinister? " About 6 hours ago in rspsonse to a post from hot2trot I replied he said I don’t think that threads like these are about age but more about finding somewhere where the young, sexy, slim and attractive people hang out. " I replied Tongue in cheek here So now its only Under 35 Sexy Slim and Attractive people? So no young BBW's, no young over weight couples, no bulldogs licking shit of a thistle, in fact if you are not pretty you are not getting in............ I did say it was only a matter of time
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" For us the idea of setting an age limit of under 35 OR over 35 only flies completely in the face of the swinging ethos and we would never support either one. )" So now you are saying because someone is a swinger they should fuck someone who they are not interested in? Are you feeling lonely sat under the bridge? Being ignored by the people you wish you could get your hands on? You hav turned a Genuine request thread into a thread that has shown yourself up. | |||
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"That for me is where the sinister could be, if you start with an age limit where does it actually stop "It will stop with the economics of the idea. There probably aren't enough of the target group to make it viable for most clubs other than on a very limited number of occasions. Clubs that aren't inclusive will find it a struggle to get enough people through the door to make it worthwhile. That's why there aren't BBW, or BMFC nights at every club every week. The numbers for Bi nights seem to justify weekly events at a lot of clubs and so they happen. To be fair to the OP, all they asked for originally was which club would give them most chance of meeting people that met their age criteria. The thread seems to have moved on to the pros and cons of non-inclusive clubs. | |||
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" For us the idea of setting an age limit of under 35 OR over 35 only flies completely in the face of the swinging ethos and we would never support either one. ) So now you are saying because someone is a swinger they should fuck someone who they are not interested in? Are you feeling lonely sat under the bridge? Being ignored by the people you wish you could get your hands on? You hav turned a Genuine request thread into a thread that has shown yourself up." If you can spot a single instance on this or any other thread on this subject where I have posted and suggested So now you are saying because someone is a swinger they should fuck someone who they are not interested in? Please feel free to flag it up, as in cut and paste it into your response............................................................................................imagine tumbles rolling from left to right across the screen | |||
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"That for me is where the sinister could be, if you start with an age limit where does it actually stop
It will stop with the economics of the idea. There probably aren't enough of the target group to make it viable for most clubs other than on a very limited number of occasions. Clubs that aren't inclusive will find it a struggle to get enough people through the door to make it worthwhile. That's why there aren't BBW, or BMFC nights at every club every week. The numbers for Bi nights seem to justify weekly events at a lot of clubs and so they happen.
To be fair to the OP, all they asked for originally was which club would give them most chance of meeting people that met their age criteria. The thread seems to have moved on to the pros and cons of non-inclusive clubs. "Precisely | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth.
Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you?"Our age range on here ONLY is set pretty wide anyway and in 'real life' it hardly applies. Incidentally what hypocrites you are setting your upper age limit at 45 when you are 41 yourself. Clearly the next four years will see a decline in your attractiveness? Any day now your younger partner might trade you in for a younger model according to your preferences. Good luck. Anyway, we are just off to polish our zimmer frames and adjust our wigs, false teeth and incontinence pants. | |||
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"If this thread was about a club night for whites only there would be uproar. Incredibly offensive to suggest we are not slim, sexy and attractive just because of our age. Indeed we find many swingers of our age try much harder to keep in shape than some younger people. See our verifications to demonstrate that this is not the case, many of them from people much younger. Yours Sincerely, Beryl and Stan sexy and attractive is subjective just as age interest is. everyone has preferences - respect their choices, even if you do not agree (because you maybe outside others preferences)
Sexy and attractive is subjective. And has nothing to do with age whatsoever.
Quite frankly we are glad we are outside the preferences of those who put themselves on a pedestal and think we are wrinkly, fat and repulsive just because of our year of birth.
Yet as I've already pointed out you have very specific age range on you profile. Can we assume that preferences are ok when they are yours and only become an issue when they exlude you?
Our age range on here ONLY is set pretty wide anyway and in 'real life' it hardly applies.
Incidentally what hypocrites you are setting your upper age limit at 45 when you are 41 yourself. Clearly the next four years will see a decline in your attractiveness? Any day now your younger partner might trade you in for a younger model according to your preferences. Good luck.
Anyway, we are just off to polish our zimmer frames and adjust our wigs, false teeth and incontinence pants.
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"I’m not being funny but is there any chance you guys could knock this one on the head now or at the very least keep the noise down till after tea. We’ve got an afternoon meet planned and don’t ask me how but we have managed to bag ourselves a couple of young one’s. I’ve been trying to sort the lighting out with the view to making it a tad kinder but I’m having murders with these 100 watt bulbs. Trying to create shadows with small lamp shades is a non starter trust me. Tip of the day: Never use out of date photos on your profile cus it will come back and haunt you. We had covered ourselves by advertising the meet as an afternoon of Darkroom Delights with gloves on. Now they are texting “can we take it out to the garden cus the suns out and if possible lose the gloves!” Nightmare! Ive got Trace on her 12th outfit asking me whether she looks good in this or did I prefer number 8 and you guys going hell for leather on here I could just do with a breather while I cover up the sides of the gazebo Any chance?" this made me lol | |||
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"I’m not being funny but is there any chance you guys could knock this one on the head now or at the very least keep the noise down till after tea. We’ve got an afternoon meet planned and don’t ask me how but we have managed to bag ourselves a couple of young one’s. I’ve been trying to sort the lighting out with the view to making it a tad kinder but I’m having murders with these 100 watt bulbs. Trying to create shadows with small lamp shades is a non starter trust me. Tip of the day: Never use out of date photos on your profile cus it will come back and haunt you. We had covered ourselves by advertising the meet as an afternoon of Darkroom Delights with gloves on. Now they are texting “can we take it out to the garden cus the suns out and if possible lose the gloves!” Nightmare! Ive got Trace on her 12th outfit asking me whether she looks good in this or did I prefer number 8 and you guys going hell for leather on here I could just do with a breather while I cover up the sides of the gazebo Any chance?" Brilliant | |||
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"I think the reason you are so sensitive on the issue of younger swingers wanting to meet others their age is because you think of yourselves as young for your age and try hard to keep swinging with the 20's and 30's and seeing on here that most prefer their own age (understandably) you feel rather mithed about it." And there it is again. Patronising. We don't 'try hard' to keep swinging with younger people, both younger and older couples find us attractive and we them. I will say it again, age is not a physical characteristic. Indeed in clubs age never crosses our mind and we would hard pressed to date people age wise anyway. I am struggling to see why under 35s would need a night for themselves. Do they feel physically repulsed by older bodies? Where will it stop? Entry barred to any woman over size 12? Any man without a 8” cock? | |||
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"I am struggling to see why under 35s would need a night for themselves. Do they feel physically repulsed by older bodies? Where will it stop? Entry barred to any woman over size 12? Any man without a 8” cock? " There wouldn't be anything wrong with any of those entry requirements, if that's what the organisers chose to specify. It would be their choice. | |||
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"I am struggling to see why under 35s would need a night for themselves. Do they feel physically repulsed by older bodies? Where will it stop? Entry barred to any woman over size 12? Any man without a 8” cock? There wouldn't be anything wrong with any of those entry requirements, if that's what the organisers chose to specify. It would be their choice." Wow. And swingers are supposed to be open minded and inclusive. | |||
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"I think the reason you are so sensitive on the issue of younger swingers wanting to meet others their age is because you think of yourselves as young for your age and try hard to keep swinging with the 20's and 30's and seeing on here that most prefer their own age (understandably) you feel rather mithed about it. And there it is again. Patronising. We don't 'try hard' to keep swinging with younger people, both younger and older couples find us attractive and we them. I will say it again, age is not a physical characteristic. Indeed in clubs age never crosses our mind and we would hard pressed to date people age wise anyway. I am struggling to see why under 35s would need a night for themselves. Do they feel physically repulsed by older bodies? Where will it stop? Entry barred to any woman over size 12? Any man without a 8” cock? " I really don't get where you are coming from at all. There are regular bi nights, BBW parties, kink parties etc etc. The OP just want to know if there any clubs that cater for their age group, nothing wrong in that, it's their preference to play with their own age group. Nowhere have they said they are repulsed by older people's bodies and I think you and everyone else has read so much more into this than there needs to be | |||
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" I really don't get where you are coming from at all. There are regular bi nights, BBW parties, kink parties etc etc. The OP just want to know if there any clubs that cater for their age group, nothing wrong in that, it's their preference to play with their own age group. Nowhere have they said they are repulsed by older people's bodies and I think you and everyone else has read so much more into this than there needs to be " Where they and I are coming from is that in virtually all of the 'nights' you mention above no one else is actively excluded from entering the club. Finding a club with a predominantly younger crowd is a million miles from closing a club to a massive proportion of the swinging society. What ever young people's motives are in wanting this is up for debate but for us turning fellow swingers away because they make you feel uncomfortable is a pretty selfish attitude which thankfully, in our experience is not prevalent in the Swinging Community | |||
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" I really don't get where you are coming from at all. There are regular bi nights, BBW parties, kink parties etc etc. The OP just want to know if there any clubs that cater for their age group, nothing wrong in that, it's their preference to play with their own age group. Nowhere have they said they are repulsed by older people's bodies and I think you and everyone else has read so much more into this than there needs to be Where they and I are coming from is that in virtually all of the 'nights' you mention above no one else is actively excluded from entering the club. Finding a club with a predominantly younger crowd is a million miles from closing a club to a massive proportion of the swinging society. What ever young people's motives are in wanting this is up for debate but for us turning fellow swingers away because they make you feel uncomfortable is a pretty selfish attitude which thankfully, in our experience is not prevalent in the Swinging Community "I was however commenting on Warrington's comment not yours | |||
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" I really don't get where you are coming from at all. There are regular bi nights, BBW parties, kink parties etc etc. The OP just want to know if there any clubs that cater for their age group, nothing wrong in that, it's their preference to play with their own age group. Nowhere have they said they are repulsed by older people's bodies and I think you and everyone else has read so much more into this than there needs to be Where they and I are coming from is that in virtually all of the 'nights' you mention above no one else is actively excluded from entering the club. Finding a club with a predominantly younger crowd is a million miles from closing a club to a massive proportion of the swinging society. What ever young people's motives are in wanting this is up for debate but for us turning fellow swingers away because they make you feel uncomfortable is a pretty selfish attitude which thankfully, in our experience is not prevalent in the Swinging Community ""Actively excluded" is a mute point. Speaking hypothetically we could go to a BMFC but we know it would be largely pointless as most of the wwomen there would not be looking for a skinny white guy. Likewise we are unlikely to find a couple for a 4sum at a greedy girls night. There are plenty of niche nights out there. But what is bizarre about the way you have derailed this threas is that the OP never even suggested or implied anything about exclusivity just a general question about clubs they might like. | |||
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"Where have we said we are repulsed by old people? We have more in common with people our age.don't really want to talk about the good old days or the drought of '75. Our preference is younger people,I'm sure the majority of younger people would not be interested in someone nearly 60.that might be hard for you to accept but its the truth. We doubt people your age would be interested in us. Pubs atract different crowds.all we wondered was which clubs attract younger couples. I wouldn't expect any club to put an age range on a night.but a night aimed at younger couples would not be a great night out for OAPs.they would be unlikely to get much action. You have prefrences,so does everyone else.100% of people have prefrences,age is a major player in the choice of many." Wow again. First off your upper age limit preference is set at 40.....seven years older than you are!! What do you think changes in the next seven years? Do you become a boring old fart and all your teeth and hair falls out? Love how you mention people 'our age' and then talk about OAPs going to a 'young persons' event. Ignorant. | |||
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"Not ignorant,just don't fancy someone older than niks dad struggling to get a hard on. I love how you can't accept that people choose a meet based on age.truth is pal,you are older than a lot of peoples dads in here and they would rather play and socialise with their own generation,let alone similar age. Don't take it personally that people you jack off to aint interested in meeting you." I can see why you can't get meets with couples. And I don't jack off to anyone there are lots of people more than happy to do it for us both. | |||
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"In fact...just read this thread again and can't believe the comments on it. Maybe there should be a club night specifically for narrow minded, ignorant, rude, narcissistic, fascist types so they can all go there and congratulate themselves for being so great, bitch about each other then leave and go home. What fun that will be. We are going to set our preferences to people whose names begin with X, born on a Tuesday and are strict macrobiotic vegans. Because preferences not relating to personality and physical appearance are of course an indicator of attractiveness." Oh please where does fascism even come in to this? S | |||
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"Well, your upper age limit is set to 60, so presumably you think that's when everything goes to pot! "Ha maybe so. I think twenty years upwards and downwards is pretty fair though. Although we have seen people potentially older than that in clubs and we tip our hat to them, we hope we are still that active! | |||
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"Maybe there should be a club night specifically for narrow minded, ignorant, rude, narcissistic, fascist types so they can all go there and congratulate themselves for being so great, bitch about each other then leave and go home. What fun that will be." I think I've been to one of those nights. | |||
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"In fact...just read this thread again and can't believe the comments on it. Maybe there should be a club night specifically for narrow minded, ignorant, rude, narcissistic, fascist types so they can all go there and congratulate themselves for being so great, bitch about each other then leave and go home. What fun that will be. We are going to set our preferences to people whose names begin with X, born on a Tuesday and are strict macrobiotic vegans. Because preferences not relating to personality and physical appearance are of course an indicator of attractiveness. Oh please where does fascism even come in to this? S" The elimination/ removal of anyone who doesn't conform to their ideal? And before someone says it no we are not old enough to remember the war. Btw I don't think ageism is any different than racism. Deny it all you like but it is bigoted. | |||
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"In fact...just read this thread again and can't believe the comments on it. Maybe there should be a club night specifically for narrow minded, ignorant, rude, narcissistic, fascist types so they can all go there and congratulate themselves for being so great, bitch about each other then leave and go home. What fun that will be. We are going to set our preferences to people whose names begin with X, born on a Tuesday and are strict macrobiotic vegans. Because preferences not relating to personality and physical appearance are of course an indicator of attractiveness. Oh please where does fascism even come in to this? S The elimination/ removal of anyone who doesn't conform to their ideal? And before someone says it no we are not old enough to remember the war. Btw I don't think ageism is any different than racism. Deny it all you like but it is bigoted. " Wow. Steady now. Everyone is here for fun right ? | |||
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" Oh please where does fascism even come in to this? S" If you're only complaining about fascism presumably you think the "narrow minded, ignorant, rude, narcissistic" comment fits -
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"Not ignorant,just don't fancy someone older than niks dad struggling to get a hard on. I love how you can't accept that people choose a meet based on age.truth is pal,you are older than a lot of peoples dads in here and they would rather play and socialise with their own generation,let alone similar age. Don't take it personally that people you jack off to aint interested in meeting you." Nice !! If nothing else this thread proves that age has no correlation to maturity. You can't do a lot about growing older but you can certainly help the experience by growing up. | |||
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Seems a few,not all luckily of older swingers resent younger people and class them as elitist and posers.
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"Yep we are going xstasia to phukt " Yay cool guys we will add you to the elitist ooopps sorry we mean list lol | |||
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" "Actively excluded" is a mute point. Speaking hypothetically we could go to a BMFC but we know it would be largely pointless as most of the wwomen there would not be looking for a skinny white guy. Likewise we are unlikely to find a couple for a 4sum at a greedy girls night. There are plenty of niche nights out there. But what is bizarre about the way you have derailed this threas is that the OP never even suggested or implied anything about exclusivity just a general question about clubs they might like." Actively excluded is hardly a moot point when there are two clubs, as you quoted that are actively excluding. Have you ever been to BMFC night or even a Horny Porny GG night? We attended a BMFC at Xtasia last December and will be going again this December. Last year my OH had some fun with a couple of the black guys there, we had some fun with the friends we attended with and we all had some fun with some of the other couples there. We are going again the Dec primarily because there is a Foam Party and we hope to meet up with some of our Cap D'Agde friends. But we have been told that the same night its a BMFC so its a total win win for one and all. We have attended a couple of HP GG nights at The Lodge and we can assure you that there is plenty of couples fun going on, some of our best couples fun has been on those nights. Don't take our word for it ask the club owners for confirmation. As for derailing how is polite debate derailing? IMHO exclusion nights at CLUBS, not parties, are a bad thing and I have yet to have my opinion swayed on that matter. | |||
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" I really don't get where you are coming from at all. There are regular bi nights, BBW parties, kink parties etc etc. The OP just want to know if there any clubs that cater for their age group, nothing wrong in that, it's their preference to play with their own age group. Nowhere have they said they are repulsed by older people's bodies and I think you and everyone else has read so much more into this than there needs to be Where they and I are coming from is that in virtually all of the 'nights' you mention above no one else is actively excluded from entering the club. Finding a club with a predominantly younger crowd is a million miles from closing a club to a massive proportion of the swinging society. What ever young people's motives are in wanting this is up for debate but for us turning fellow swingers away because they make you feel uncomfortable is a pretty selfish attitude which thankfully, in our experience is not prevalent in the Swinging Community
I was however commenting on Warrington's comment not yours "I just had a detailed look through the FAQ' etc and I am struggling to find the rule that says I am not allowed to comment on yours or anyone else's post. Probably best you report the post to admin and we can let them arbitrate | |||
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" I really don't get where you are coming from at all. There are regular bi nights, BBW parties, kink parties etc etc. The OP just want to know if there any clubs that cater for their age group, nothing wrong in that, it's their preference to play with their own age group. Nowhere have they said they are repulsed by older people's bodies and I think you and everyone else has read so much more into this than there needs to be Where they and I are coming from is that in virtually all of the 'nights' you mention above no one else is actively excluded from entering the club. Finding a club with a predominantly younger crowd is a million miles from closing a club to a massive proportion of the swinging society. What ever young people's motives are in wanting this is up for debate but for us turning fellow swingers away because they make you feel uncomfortable is a pretty selfish attitude which thankfully, in our experience is not prevalent in the Swinging Community
I was however commenting on Warrington's comment not yours
I just had a detailed look through the FAQ' etc and I am struggling to find the rule that says I am not allowed to comment on yours or anyone else's post.
Probably best you report the post to admin and we can let them arbitrate "Whatever | |||
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" I really don't get where you are coming from at all. There are regular bi nights, BBW parties, kink parties etc etc. The OP just want to know if there any clubs that cater for their age group, nothing wrong in that, it's their preference to play with their own age group. Nowhere have they said they are repulsed by older people's bodies and I think you and everyone else has read so much more into this than there needs to be Where they and I are coming from is that in virtually all of the 'nights' you mention above no one else is actively excluded from entering the club. Finding a club with a predominantly younger crowd is a million miles from closing a club to a massive proportion of the swinging society. What ever young people's motives are in wanting this is up for debate but for us turning fellow swingers away because they make you feel uncomfortable is a pretty selfish attitude which thankfully, in our experience is not prevalent in the Swinging Community
I was however commenting on Warrington's comment not yours
I just had a detailed look through the FAQ' etc and I am struggling to find the rule that says I am not allowed to comment on yours or anyone else's post.
Probably best you report the post to admin and we can let them arbitrate
Whatever" | |||
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"to actually answer the question... we attend cupids quite often and the party nights attract quite a lot of 20s/30s and its always great fun " Chams, Xtasia, The Lodge, Dec's all seem to have a nice cross section of ages getting on happily when we attend | |||
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"Wow is this crap still going on....you really did cause a stink original posters,over such a reasonable question lol. "Didn't they just and in fact the last one similar to this went exactly the same way | |||
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"What has brandon blocks age got to do with who we choose to play with? People in day to day life choose partners near their own age,swinging is no different. Warringtons problem is they are at that middle ground age and judging by their pics (before they blocked us lol) is that they think they can still mingle with the younger crowd. Tip - don't try so hard
See,anyone can be bitchy.
Seems a few,not all luckily of older swingers resent younger people and class them as elitist and posers.
If having a preference and standards is elitist,that's us then "We can 'mingle' with anyone we like and that is the whole point of being inclusive. A point that seems utterly lost on you. And having preferences (and 'standards' whatever that might mean) is totally different than arrogance and being immature. And you are blocked because we genuinely wouldn't want to meet anyone with such issues. | |||
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"Btw Brandon Block is 46 and a fat bloke. Also about as relevant a DJ as Noel Edmonds as well. Will he be allowed in? Charming so now your turning on us and one of our DJ's at our event ?? Your point is totally irrelevant and frankly childish. " It was a flippant comment but love the fact someone who the people on here consider old enough to be their 'dad' and would be 'jacking off' over their fabulous young bodies is booked for the event. Oh and......... | |||
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"Btw Brandon Block is 46 and a fat bloke. Also about as relevant a DJ as Noel Edmonds as well. Will he be allowed in? Charming so now your turning on us and one of our DJ's at our event ?? Your point is totally irrelevant and frankly childish. It was a flippant comment but love the fact someone who the people on here consider old enough to be their 'dad' and would be 'jacking off' over their fabulous young bodies is booked for the event. Oh and......... "The reason its irrelevant is because Brandon Block is not a swinger ( to our knowledge ) and is a guest DJ at one of our events so bringing him into it is irrelevant. Furthermore there are no age, sex, colour or size restrictions on our event EVERYONE is welcome. | |||
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"8m curious as to whos Martha and what happens if she doesnt do her home work? Mrs"The oldies here will remember Adam Faith sent her a message, the young uns won't have a clue and she has to copy this thread out 100 times in her best handwriting. | |||
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"Blessed are those young ones who will be the old swingers of the future! Young people do need their own space too if they are to get an early start in the scene… or are we suggesting they would have to wait for the ripe age to fit in with the rest of us? Open mindedness goes along the line with mutual respect and understanding… Always respect peoples’ sexual boundaries. Everyone likes to have fun, but everyone has their limits and these limits are not always as you might assume them to be. I personally find it such an aggressive statement: - Why should I be excluded? I want to be part of it! – this is very selfish particularly in a swinger website where No should mean NO and we should not ask why as a golden rule! Yet it happens time and time again… Have you all forgotten that us “swingers” are in fact a minority? Yet we fail to agree to the basic rule we have created? " Polite request What is the basic rule | |||
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" Furthermore there are no age, sex, colour or size restrictions on our event EVERYONE is welcome. " Now if only everyone could be that inclusive, hats off to you for that | |||
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As an older and supposedly wiser swinger, you should be the first to respect such rule and encourage the younger generation to dip their toes in the scene… not discourage them with such a close mind!
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"No means NO and you do not ask why
As an older and supposedly wiser swinger, you should be the first to respect such rule and encourage the younger generation to dip their toes in the scene… not discourage them with such a close mind!
"If you can spot anywhere in the thread where I even remotely suggested otherwise please feel free to cut and paste into here
Just a thought but its a bit difficult to do that encouraging thing if you are not allowed in to do that encouraging thing in the first place don't you think | |||
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" Just a thought but its a bit difficult to do that encouraging thing if you are not allowed in to do that encouraging thing in the first place don't you think "But how many times do you need to be reminded that no one is talking about exclusive nights except you. The initial post was merely asking about clubs that may attract a younger crowd. | |||
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" Just a thought but its a bit difficult to do that encouraging thing if you are not allowed in to do that encouraging thing in the first place don't you think
But how many times do you need to be reminded that no one is talking about exclusive nights except you. The initial post was merely asking about clubs that may attract a younger crowd."Sorry, did I break the forum rules by evolving the conversation, always remember a reply us not compulsory .............. As I am still here able to post I guess the Mods etc see nothing wrong in polite debate | |||
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"Just read the thread and see posts about the 'swinging ethos' and 'inclusion', not to mention some frankly bizarre ones about bigotry and fascism. From our point of view I'm afraid we aren't equal opportunity swingers and don't believe there is even such a thing as a swinging ethos. We will meet and have fun with people that meet our criteria and if that excludes a certain percentage of the population then so be it. So with that said, I can't see anything wrong with the OP's post at all." Me neither | |||
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"EVERYONE has their preferences be it age, colour , sexuality etc etc. Its THEIR right and choice as to who they play with and THEIR preference. If you dont match or agree with them move on and accept it aint gonna happen instead of getting all uppity and accusing them of exclusion etc !! All the OP asked was where they could go clubbing where there will be some or a younger crowd for them. Yet a few of you have jumped all over them accussing them of all sorts !! Its THEIR preference and choice if you dont like it then move on !! Show some respect its not difficult !! " This | |||
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"Judging by the response a tiny fraction are against nights Aimed at younger couples. Swinger clubs are no different than regular pubs/clubs.they all aim to target certain age groups and preferences. Nothing wrong in exluding people from your preference due to Their age. Would never expect a ban on oldies at a club though. If people running club nights vet people by their looks,so be it.its up to them.I'm sure there are other places we could go. There is only one person getting upset about people wanting to play with people of similar age,sure we will hear from him again." Well now we are on the same page. The crucial thing here is the word 'excluding'. Although the use of the word 'oldies' is patronising again. It seems ageism is the acceptable face of bigotry. | |||
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"Just read the thread and see posts about the 'swinging ethos' and 'inclusion', not to mention some frankly bizarre ones about bigotry and fascism. From our point of view I'm afraid we aren't equal opportunity swingers and don't believe there is even such a thing as a swinging ethos. We will meet and have fun with people that meet our criteria and if that excludes a certain percentage of the population then so be it. So with that said, I can't see anything wrong with the OP's post at all. Me neither "How would you define exclusion? | |||
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" Nothing wrong in exluding people from your preference due to Their age. Would never expect a ban on oldies at a club though. " Nice to see we are in total agreement | |||
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"I don't think the OP is the problem. Some of the other comments are." The OP is not the problem however as with all threads on Fab it's politely evolved for some who have read it properly and not so politely by some who haven't read it properly | |||
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"Just read the thread and see posts about the 'swinging ethos' and 'inclusion', not to mention some frankly bizarre ones about bigotry and fascism. From our point of view I'm afraid we aren't equal opportunity swingers and don't believe there is even such a thing as a swinging ethos. We will meet and have fun with people that meet our criteria and if that excludes a certain percentage of the population then so be it. So with that said, I can't see anything wrong with the OP's post at all. Me neither
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"Doesn't matter how we define it, we exclude people all the time. B/f plays football and all the teams seem to exclude women or people in their 60's etc playing. Should we get worked up about this exclusion? Would we be offended about being excluded from a swinging even that was for under 30's only? No, not at all and we find it amusing that others would (even though this isn't what the OP is actually looking for) | |||
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"Just read the thread and see posts about the 'swinging ethos' and 'inclusion', not to mention some frankly bizarre ones about bigotry and fascism. From our point of view I'm afraid we aren't equal opportunity swingers and don't believe there is even such a thing as a swinging ethos. We will meet and have fun with people that meet our criteria and if that excludes a certain percentage of the population then so be it. So with that said, I can't see anything wrong with the OP's post at all. Me neither
How would you define exclusion?
Doesn't matter how we define it, we exclude people all the time. B/f plays football and all the teams seem to exclude women or people in their 60's etc playing. Should we get worked up about this exclusion?
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"Just read the thread and see posts about the 'swinging ethos' and 'inclusion', not to mention some frankly bizarre ones about bigotry and fascism. From our point of view I'm afraid we aren't equal opportunity swingers and don't believe there is even such a thing as a swinging ethos. We will meet and have fun with people that meet our criteria and if that excludes a certain percentage of the population then so be it. So with that said, I can't see anything wrong with the OP's post at all. Me neither
How would you define exclusion?
Doesn't matter how we define it, we exclude people all the time. B/f plays football and all the teams seem to exclude women or people in their 60's etc playing. Should we get worked up about this exclusion?
Old folk excluded from playing based simply on age, interesting choice of analogy there "Just read this thread its all got out of hand think mods need to close it. | |||
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