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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'

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By *aybecoupleCouple
over a year ago

handlope

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By *aybecoupleCouple
over a year ago

handlope


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'"

Eh?

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'"

Feel better now you've got that off your chest??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is that someone in particular's parties you are referring to?

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By *he devil wears pradaWoman
over a year ago

gosport ish


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'

Feel better now you've got that off your chest?? "
Toys out of play pen!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty sure no club charges 600% more admission for singlemen... That was the only bit I could make any sense off.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I have to agree (in a way). The higher price for single men is to prevent waves of single men from coming, and thus scaring away the couples and single women who they have come to see. You must admit that you wouldn't be too pleased if you paid a small charge to enter a club and found out that there was so many single men in the club there was no-one to play with.

On the other hand, as I won't go to a club that doesn't allow single men to attend, I believe that there are better ways to restrict the numbers. But then I am not a club owner.

Could be an idea to keep an eye out for the club socials that are often advertised on here. Usually only 50-100% more expensive for single blokes. Good luck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like you have spotted a gap in the market for single men at a reasonable cost.

Let us know when your opening night is

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

This!

*and yes - I'm a single guy !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask"

Many clubs do.

But they also charge single guys the same as or more than a couple.

And deter me (and quite a few other single fems I know) because we like a lot of choice of single men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask"
they do

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Pretty sure the system works for clubs so not exactly the 'dumbest fucking idea' really is it?

Probably annoying for single blokes and I can understand that, really I can. The only way to change it is to start your own club and see how equal pricing structures affect the mix of clientele.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask"

They restrict numbers, charge higher prices, have nights where single men are not allowed, and generally try their best to prevent them from going at all. (Not all clubs by the way - there are a couple that don't). Unfortunately, as Bitch Librarian says, that means more couples and so less choice for me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the answer is for the club/door staff to use their discretion as more couples and single ladies come in then allow a similar proportion of males after all lots of couples and women enjoy playing with them in club. For some its their reason for going.

Only problem with this is the fact guys wouldnt know until they arrive if they will be allowed in.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Surely the answer is, if you don't like the admission prices then don't go.

That'll learn em!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'"

600% are you sure so say we pay £30 to get in it costs a single male £18000

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'

600% are you sure so say we pay £30 to get in it costs a single male £18000 "

Er, £180

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Supply and demand!!!

There are more guys looking to go to clubs than couples/single fems - some for the right reasons, some because they think they're guaranteed action.

Clubs will never be short of willing males visitors but will occasionally struggle to attract sufficient numbers of the other groups - hence any increase in males potentially decreases the number of female/couple visitors, which results in frustrated males - often getting pushy - and creates a vicious circle of unhappy 'everyone' !!

Limiting numbers may work - but how do you choose who the good, popular guys are, and how do new guys 'break in' to any pre-approved guest list? Not limiting numbers, or reducing prices creates a larger number of single male visitors - having an impact on the other guests.

Easy solution? There is none. And the clubs seem happy with the current system - as do many guests of all sexes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'

600% are you sure so say we pay £30 to get in it costs a single male £18000

Er, £180 "

Sorry it's early but even £180 seems expensive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really the dumbest idea is it the clubs do well people of all sexes still go .

By the very nature of swingers clubs you will never be able to please everybody, hence why why most hold different themed nights such as bdsm, bi, greedy girls and couples only. It's all about finding a balance.

Lets just say IF a club charged a lower rate for single guys then not only would they get guys from the swinging lifestyle but also others who just think its a cheap shag.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

Sounds like Rio's in London. A lesson in why a pricing structures that favour singlemen and does not restrict their numbers simply does not work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really the dumbest idea is it the clubs do well people of all sexes still go .

By the very nature of swingers clubs you will never be able to please everybody, hence why why most hold different themed nights such as bdsm, bi, greedy girls and couples only. It's all about finding a balance.

Lets just say IF a club charged a lower rate for single guys then not only would they get guys from the swinging lifestyle but also others who just think its a cheap shag.

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By *reasyontheeyesMan
over a year ago

out in the sticks


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'

600% are you sure so say we pay £30 to get in it costs a single male £18000

Er, £180

Sorry it's early but even £180 seems expensive "

More likely couples £10 guys £60.

Seems to be a glut of clubs in the south west doing free entry for couples, how do they make that pay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our local club charges single men slightly more than couples which in turn pay slightly more than single fems, i no single men must think they get the hard end of the stick, but the system works as it is and most the clientele are genuine respectful swingers, and none of the single men seem to moan about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'

600% are you sure so say we pay £30 to get in it costs a single male £18000

Er, £180

Sorry it's early but even £180 seems expensive

More likely couples £10 guys £60.

Seems to be a glut of clubs in the south west doing free entry for couples, how do they make that pay?"

What clubs are these we could do with a free night out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've just found a dummy on the floor any idea who's pram it may have been spat out of?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask"

That's what I was thinking. Make it ticket only, booked in advance for single men. I for one would feel better if I went to a club as a single woman if there were only a handful of single men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you dont like it dont go however as an occasion single male when I goto club I don't go to play I go to enjoy a naked hot tub and Sauna so as a treat to myself a few times a year its not that bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask

Many clubs do.

But they also charge single guys the same as or more than a couple.

And deter me (and quite a few other single fems I know) because we like a lot of choice of single men. "

here here. totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask

They restrict numbers, charge higher prices, have nights where single men are not allowed, and generally try their best to prevent them from going at all. (Not all clubs by the way - there are a couple that don't). Unfortunately, as Bitch Librarian says, that means more couples and so less choice for me!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!

This!

*and yes - I'm a single guy !"

Maybe an idea for clubs could be a loyalty scheme so if a single guy attended the same club on a regular basis he get a reduction in fees?

Yeah they would need to join but with each visit a discount could be applied until he has hit so many visits that he reaches the same price as a single female?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask

Many clubs do.

But they also charge single guys the same as or more than a couple.

And deter me (and quite a few other single fems I know) because we like a lot of choice of single men. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have been to clubs where the number of single guys entering the club was not limited and also to clubs where they stuck to a limit.

In the clubs with unlimited single guys it was pushy and the cpls, single girls in club were unhappy (single guys coming into couples only room); where as at clubs with limits the whole feels relaxed and stress less...

Clubs can charge whatever they want as it's their business and if some one isn't happy then don't go. Clubs live with couples and single girls going as if no of us there...it would be one big wank festive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

Agree with this, single guys can ruin a good club if they are not vetted and numbers managed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!

This!

*and yes - I'm a single guy !

Maybe an idea for clubs could be a loyalty scheme so if a single guy attended the same club on a regular basis he get a reduction in fees?

Yeah they would need to join but with each visit a discount could be applied until he has hit so many visits that he reaches the same price as a single female? "

Xtasia does an 'every fifth visit free' scheme - for all members. And there's no end of club parties and socials organised regularly with discounted entry for singles and couples - just check the swingers clubs forum!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!

This!

*and yes - I'm a single guy !

Maybe an idea for clubs could be a loyalty scheme so if a single guy attended the same club on a regular basis he get a reduction in fees?

Yeah they would need to join but with each visit a discount could be applied until he has hit so many visits that he reaches the same price as a single female? "

This idea does have an appeal, but how much of a club's profit margin comes from single guys? I suspect they make a loss on the single girls, so if process for men go down, other prices would have to go up to compensate.

Bottom line - yes, it's annoying that I pay around twice as much as a couple and 5-6 times as much as a single girl (assuming they pay anything at all), but having seen some of the single men at clubs and the pack mentality that can take over, I understand why the limits and pricing structures are as they are. You can look at it as an insult or an attack on single men if you like - I see it as motivation to find a girlfriend who enjoys the naughtier side of life.

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By *ightDiversionMan
over a year ago

Sevenoaks

Ahh the pricing for single guys conundrum !

Charge a higher price – fewer guys come but those that do have paid a fortune so have the wrong attitude – puts of many couples – guys are even worse - spiral.

Charge less more guys turn up – they have a better attitude but shear weight of numbers put couples off and there are sometimes the odd few who don’t know how to behave !

Its all about the balance and I imagine very difficult to get started and get the number balanced to begin with – which is why perhaps the best clubs seem to have been around a long time. But they have achieved it !

There are a few possibilities:

Charge a high price for annual membership – but a reasonably equal price for entry – Membership shows commitment – puts off those popping in for a one off quick shag. This would be great if there could be reciprocal arrangements between clubs – if you’re a member of X then you can go to Y and Z for a few nights every X months (at a small premium) but have to join if you want to go more. This would be great for those of us who travel and like to see what the local area has for fun !! Guys who seriously overstep the mark can then be removed from the membership – this would require communication between clubs – and it would only really work for clubs not close together.

Limit numbers on the night – this can only be achieved if people are counted as they come and go and there is a queue of guys waiting around for entry – nightmare !! – planning ahead I guess can work to an extent but if people don’t turn up then the numbers are off and some people like to go on the spur of the moment. Also some couples want a few guys some want many – impossible to please all of the people all of the time ! – one option would be to have a 1:1 night and 2:1 night or a 5:1 night advertised in advance – the risk is that the club may take the opportunity of a differing pricing structure depending on the night – may well get back to the ‘paid a lot I should be able to shag everyone’ mentality. Also I imagine that really the only guys who would go would be the locals who can pop along to see if there is room – can’t see people driving 50 miles to find out the numbers are wrong – also what happens when people leave – you chuck out the spare guys ?

Heavily vet guys – both on entry and during the evening – if they seem to have the wrong attitude then they don’t come back ? This would require higher staff numbers and probably an increased cost for the couples – but could work and I think does at one club which I know charges the same price !

Set up two clubs close together – one proper club – the other one paying single girls to go charging a much higher price for the guys. (I know its wrong but we all know this happens !)

Anyone still awake ??

No didn’t think so….

Anyway just some thoughts!

Alan

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know of some clubs who interview the single males .... And then allow them membership ....

But I don't know on what criteria or what pass mark they have

I guess a sober, respectful guy would be welcome at any club

As usual the dick heads spoil it for everyone. On my first ever club visit there were three obviously d*unk and obnoxious guys making a nuisance of themselves and eventually left after a few dropped hints by the staff. There were also, in my opinion, too many single guys in there, wandering around like lost sheep .... But paying their entrance fees, keeping the club going on an otherwise quiet night .....

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By *ucy and CarlCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

We go to pleasures in Kent. There its £30 for a couple and £40 for a single guy. Not great at maths but isn't that 33% more? Ok the £30 is based on a couple being £15 each, which would make it 66% more. 600% would mean single men are being charged £180. Yeah then if they are charging this amount you are definitely getting ripped off and more fool anyone who does pay that amount. Or is there a slight exaggeration in your tantrum?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

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By *tasiaCouple
over a year ago

West Bromwich


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Xtasia does an 'every fifth visit free' scheme - for all members. And there's no end of club parties and socials organised regularly with discounted entry for singles and couples - just check the swingers clubs forum! "
Thanks Obi, We also have a thread running seeking out guys who wish to become serious club members, with a massive financial incentive to come along. Guess how many guys names on it to date: yep...One!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The main point here been, why fix something that isnt broken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonder what's happened to the op

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'"

Ino exactly what ypu mean mate theres a club by me which is over a 100 quid for a guy couples 20 quid n single fems 5er to get in thas y I never been to a swinging club its a rip off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps he should join Carnustie golf club, he'd be very welcome as a single guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Xtasia does an 'every fifth visit free' scheme - for all members. And there's no end of club parties and socials organised regularly with discounted entry for singles and couples - just check the swingers clubs forum! Thanks Obi, We also have a thread running seeking out guys who wish to become serious club members, with a massive financial incentive to come along. Guess how many guys names on it to date: yep...One! "

Guess you can lead a horse to water..........

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

I feel sorry for single guys sometimes but I think they put the blame on the wrong people. The ones to blame are the pushy ones that won't take no for an answer, the ones that join a conga line, the ones that swamp a woman as soon as her partner goes for a piss or to the bar.

I'll say what I always say, go to a social and behave like a decent human being. That way people will get to know you and know you are not one of the predators.

It would be great if clubs could get that perfect mix but with cpls that want cpls, cpls that want single men, cpls that want single females and singles that want singles (that's without getting into the gay/bi/straight thing) I can't see it happening anytime soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Xtasia does an 'every fifth visit free' scheme - for all members. And there's no end of club parties and socials organised regularly with discounted entry for singles and couples - just check the swingers clubs forum! Thanks Obi, We also have a thread running seeking out guys who wish to become serious club members, with a massive financial incentive to come along. Guess how many guys names on it to date: yep...One!

Guess you can lead a horse to water.........."

This horse would have to be led over a hundred miles each way, so hopefully someone will put some water closer to the stable

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask

Many clubs do.

But they also charge single guys the same as or more than a couple.

And deter me (and quite a few other single fems I know) because we like a lot of choice of single men.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you owned a Swingers Club why on earth would you want to change the way things are currently done?

You would need the brains of a duck not to realise that your core business are couples so your main priority is to ensure their needs are taken care off properly.

Offering cheap entry to single women appears to be a very magnanimous gesture however as proportionally women are as rare as hens teeth its hardly going to break the bank letting the occasional one or two in for reduced rates. In fact the entry costs of one extra single guy would probably cover the lost revenue for an evenings single woman intake.

Single guys are effectively on tap so vetting them, charging them more and limiting their numbers makes excellent business sense.

The female half of most couples looking to play with single guys will naturally want to be able to select from a group of good looking guys so what club owner in his/her right mind is not going to ensure that the limited number of single guys allowed in are not pleasing on the eye.

The clubs we visit seem to have set the balance perfectly and in our experience the likes of Chams on a Friday night really do hit the spot when it comes to getting the mix right. Wilst not all the guys are what my other half has in mind tomplay with the vast majority do so we very rarely leave the place without a smile on our faces.

Anyone also doubting the value of couples only has to look at how busy most clubs and parties are when it's couples only.

The harsh reality is that single folk are a very very welcome addition in our opinion, not everyone's opinion but certainly in ours however they are an addition to the core business model and as such will have to accept the status quo as it currently is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Xtasia does an 'every fifth visit free' scheme - for all members. And there's no end of club parties and socials organised regularly with discounted entry for singles and couples - just check the swingers clubs forum! Thanks Obi, We also have a thread running seeking out guys who wish to become serious club members, with a massive financial incentive to come along. Guess how many guys names on it to date: yep...One!

Guess you can lead a horse to water..........

This horse would have to be led over a hundred miles each way, so hopefully someone will put some water closer to the stable "

Chameleons and Xtasia are a 100 miles ish from us, Secrets in Totnes is considerably further. Decadents is about 60 miles each way and the Lodge is just over 50 miles each way.

For us the distance to and from a club is never the issue, what the club has to offer is the most important thing and the ones we mention always always fit the bill for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a good point there. I've only been to AbFabs so far and plan to visit other clubs. However, as someone who hates driving at the best of times, the thought of a 2-hour drive home in the small hours by myself really doesn't appeal, so the 30-minute drive back from AbFabs is a plus for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's a good point there. I've only been to AbFabs so far and plan to visit other clubs. However, as someone who hates driving at the best of times, the thought of a 2-hour drive home in the small hours by myself really doesn't appeal, so the 30-minute drive back from AbFabs is a plus for me. "

Take a look at the club section and read the details for The Lodge which is at Gloucester. We like the place and have some some great nights with single guys there

They also host Greedy Girl parties there once a month, do the research, find out who does the organising, get yourself on their invite list and you will have a very entertains evening.

A couple of hoops to jump through but the rewards are outstanding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's a good point there. I've only been to AbFabs so far and plan to visit other clubs. However, as someone who hates driving at the best of times, the thought of a 2-hour drive home in the small hours by myself really doesn't appeal, so the 30-minute drive back from AbFabs is a plus for me. "

Distance is always an issue - whether it's travelling to clubs, parties or just ordinary meets!

Xtasia is 2 hrs from Fox and I (each way!) and we've done 'there and back' trips arriving at 9 and getting back home at 5am, as well as booking in next door (the club has a great deal with the Prem Inn next door!)

Guess it's a question of planning and what you think is good value. But as others have said - there'll generally be a club within an hour of everyone. Whether its a good club, however.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We go chams a lot it's 140 miles each way we either stay there hotel or friends but to us it's worth it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We go chams a lot it's 140 miles each way we either stay there hotel or friends but to us it's worth it "

When we go we try to do Fri and Sat its that's good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We only go Saturday nights not so keen on the single men thing

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

Agree with this 100%

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!

This!

*and yes - I'm a single guy !"

and thats why different nights cater to different people, I found a night that was brilliant for me and stick with it, but I wouldn't go on another night because of past experiences of the above described....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Basically it is prostitution, guys pay inflated price in the expectation of a knee trembler, single women usually free, because the organiser needs something to sell....

if you don't like it, join up with a woman, provide the car, petrol and she will go as a couple, till you get inside..save some money...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

perhaps the question should be why are so many men willing to pay more?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Simple really!!!! dont go to that club!!! it aint rocket science...xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask"

Some do. If youre not on the guest list, you don't get in which I think is fair enough. That way the club management has more control of who is there. They allow guys in who are well behaved and well liked so more single women and more couples attend. Win win. New guys are offered membership when the list is opened periodically so it's not exclusive, just a better experience for everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Completely agree,also such clubs are great to invite new playmates to for fun rather

than the commitment and expense of a dedicated hotel room. Club visits can be no more than a social coffee meet or a full on encounter of anything more or less.

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By *it of fun cplCouple
over a year ago

village between York and Hull


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

High prices for single males also tends to keep the younger guys away which is why we tend to go to less clubs now as the majority of single guys who can afford it are older!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yup we agree. Taking nothing away from the older guys as I'm sure there is something for everyone out there but our preference is to meet a younger guy in a club but they are in short supply in the club we often go to.

NUS discount the way forward????

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By *it of fun cplCouple
over a year ago

village between York and Hull


"Yup we agree. Taking nothing away from the older guys as I'm sure there is something for everyone out there but our preference is to meet a younger guy in a club but they are in short supply in the club we often go to.

NUS discount the way forward???? "

Lol that made us laugh!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I travel from a country that has no swinging clubs.. went to chams for my first time ever recently and returning soon.. the crowd was the right mix on friday.. it felt comfortable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'

600% are you sure so say we pay £30 to get in it costs a single male £18000 "

Did you mean £180????

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By *ocksoff3Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"The main point here been, why fix something that isnt broken."

Never been to a club but this is the second thread I have read that seems to indicate they are very broken

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How are they broken, they have massive memberships and many people attend on a regular basis, swinging clubs are doing fine, you will find threads like these are started by the odd disgruntled guy that doesnt understand why the pricing structure is what it is.

There is nothing broke about swinging clubs, they have ran fine for years and still run fine, therefore there is nothing to fix.

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By *it of fun cplCouple
over a year ago

village between York and Hull

A few of the established clubs are doing fine but a lot are struggeling for numbers. A couple have closed recently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think he means it literally when he says 600% but rather he's referring to the high entrance fee for guys attending clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"charging single guys 600% hike up over EVERYONE else who wants to goto these parties.

What other planet does this not constitute a blatant rip off. As if it's hard enough for guys to find nice places the entitelment brigade rolllll in and declre martial law on cock.

Dontdeny it, we are not all blind to the bullshit of 'wow you're single? gtfo unless you're stunning' to... 'oh now you're a COUPLE... here come on in'"

Right on brother!!

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

You could limit the number of single guys and charge them a reasonable fee (places like ourplace4fun do this).

However its easier just to charge then a whack and make your money off them.

Like everything else its about supply and demand and if x amount of people WILL pay it then its clearly the right figure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't help but think ... tough shit ! drop the price and then it would be over run by single guys and couples would disappear . have you ever been to the place in Torquay ? prime example only 20odd quid is but you mite have 20/25 guys to 1 - maybe 4 woman ( as couple ) so its like the piepiper .... so no put up or shut up simples ......

Or though I think there could be concessions made if a single guy is brought by a couple as there invited guest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A few of the established clubs are doing fine but a lot are struggeling for numbers. A couple have closed recently."

most if not all of the decent clubs out there are doing excellant, they have waiting lists for new members, there is no need to change a thing.

With the ops question, no one is forcing you to go and pay, if you dont like the pricing structure dont go, simple as that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A few of the established clubs are doing fine but a lot are struggeling for numbers. A couple have closed recently.

most if not all of the decent clubs out there are doing excellant, they have waiting lists for new members, there is no need to change a thing.

With the ops question, no one is forcing you to go and pay, if you dont like the pricing structure dont go, simple as that."

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

What gets up my nose is the clubs that charge Tgirls the male entry price. Most Tgirls will sort out the excess single males (not saying I would tbh) but at the end of the day most blokes wouldn't care if they were getting a bj from a decent looking Tgirl. So it seems strange to me that many clubs still adopt this strategy. Luckily I know a few that don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What gets up my nose is the clubs that charge Tgirls the male entry price. Most Tgirls will sort out the excess single males (not saying I would tbh) but at the end of the day most blokes wouldn't care if they were getting a bj from a decent looking Tgirl. So it seems strange to me that many clubs still adopt this strategy. Luckily I know a few that don't.

"
????????????????? sorry I don't agree that's hardly fair on other single guys as you still have male junk in between ya legs !!! that's like saying bi guys should be cheaper as they can play with other guys so hammer the str8 guys!!! yes it is a 'cock tax ' but like it or lump it !!!

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

Oh fine! Lets be fair most transexuals will look better than half the women in the club so is that really fair? I'm being taxed for having the wrong parts at birth. How nice is that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hummm that's an opinion and most woman will find distasteful ! ... if you were post op that would be different ... I mean you could get really tech and say one flat fee as we are all human !!! but hay life is never black & white

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

Oh that's so typical. Once I'm post op then I'm ok. Do you know how insulting that is? That means every TS is a man in your eyes until they are post op. That is blatant transphobia. Suggest you read up on the difference between gender and sexuality.

Ugh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...... .... no phobia ! physical fact ... a str8 guy would not be happy to pay full and you get in as same rate as woman .... lets agree to disagree ..

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

So legally I'm a woman, i carry female ID, I.e. passport and driving licence yet I get charged as a man? now do you understand my point?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yea I do understand but can you see the side of the club ? its a difficult situation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some pretty fair arguments but regardless, that rant was fun to read. The Entitlement Brigade and Martial Law on Cock could be a fucking best selling novel title!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some pretty fair arguments but regardless, that rant was fun to read. The Entitlement Brigade and Martial Law on Cock could be a fucking best selling novel title! "
aah the great ' cock tax of 2013 ' surprised the torry's not thought of that before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some pretty fair arguments but regardless, that rant was fun to read. The Entitlement Brigade and Martial Law on Cock could be a fucking best selling novel title! aah the great ' cock tax of 2013 ' surprised the torry's not thought of that before "

They couldn't possibly, they'd have to charge themselves mostly for fucking the country lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some pretty fair arguments but regardless, that rant was fun to read. The Entitlement Brigade and Martial Law on Cock could be a fucking best selling novel title! aah the great ' cock tax of 2013 ' surprised the torry's not thought of that before

They couldn't possibly, they'd have to charge themselves mostly for fucking the country lol"
true!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some pretty fair arguments but regardless, that rant was fun to read. The Entitlement Brigade and Martial Law on Cock could be a fucking best selling novel title! aah the great ' cock tax of 2013 ' surprised the torry's not thought of that before

They couldn't possibly, they'd have to charge themselves mostly for fucking the country lol true!! "

Great Cock Tax of 2013 deserves a 'Like', this site's threads needs 'Like' buttons lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Re brand ' fabface' lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No money, no honey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you dont like, dont attend.

really, how hard is it (the difficulty of the decision, not your cock, as we all know once thats hard, decisions become impossible)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh fine! Lets be fair most transexuals will look better than half the women in the club so is that really fair? I'm being taxed for having the wrong parts at birth. How nice is that? "

MOST trans look better than 'natural' women.

i mean, just WOW!!!!

a VERY narrow minded view, from someone that looks upon people to be VERY open minded about their lifestyle...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Re brand ' fabface' lol "

Beautiful, just beautiful lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

without single guys paying over the odds, there would be no clubs, couples have less disposable income and make a drink last most of the night, if they don't have it in their handbag, when they go in, so thank your lucky starts there are single guys who are prepared to subsidise the single women and couples, without them admission prices would increase for everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh fine! Lets be fair most transexuals will look better than half the women in the club so is that really fair? I'm being taxed for having the wrong parts at birth. How nice is that?

MOST trans look better than 'natural' women.

i mean, just WOW!!!!

a VERY narrow minded view, from someone that looks upon people to be VERY open minded about their lifestyle..."
exactly what I thought !! in my opinion its the tie ones that seem the most convincing ... just sayin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh fine! Lets be fair most transexuals will look better than half the women in the club so is that really fair? I'm being taxed for having the wrong parts at birth. How nice is that?

MOST trans look better than 'natural' women.

i mean, just WOW!!!!

a VERY narrow minded view, from someone that looks upon people to be VERY open minded about their lifestyle... exactly what I thought !! in my opinion its the tie ones that seem the most convincing ... just sayin "

I find brains very sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nice ooh my good lady's in with a chance but rules me out lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps have a social/vetting night one evening so that if the guy acts reasonably that night then allow him to go on the ok male list for future events. Not sure how you police that though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps have a social/vetting night one evening so that if the guy acts reasonably that night then allow him to go on the ok male list for future events. Not sure how you police that though. "

depends what your idea of reasonably is, it sure wont be someones elses idea.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Apparently people here cant math.

I come back after a few weeks...

600% of £10 is £60 for example as to the difference.

You all know the nonsense of being excluded BECAUSE you're a male and thus not 'fair game' if I were to just bring in a woman I would not only be financially unexploited but actually get way more attention.

Start my OWN club? If I could invest the capital I would.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm glad my rage venting has inspired a constructive debate

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My insurance premium fucks me in the arse less than clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dreamer ...... as it would turn into a gay bi place as a fraction of couples would turn up ....... at the weekend we went to secrets in Devon and they have a strict policy of No single guys at all only couples / single fem's its not cheap either £45 per couple but it was Heaving touching 100 couples!!! and was an amazing night ..... get ya self a fem fb !!!

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

I don't think my comment about trans girls looking better than many women in clubs is me being closed minded. I didn't say we look better than all women and I know well there are some pretty shocking cross dressers out there, but then there are some stunners too. Just the same as there are some truly gorgeous looking women and there are some less so. There is however beauty in everyone and I mean everyone. Not everyone sees it but someone will.

But to the person that thinks this is a lifestyle choice. Really? You think I want this? You think I chose this? I mean, do you really think I chose to genuinely give up everything I have worked for in life and throw it all away just for a lifestyle choice. No. When you get to the choice of life or death because of something you've denied yet known for so long it's a tough call. I was there. I chose life. This is not dress up. It's not a lifestyle choice.

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

And I said cross dresser so I covered everyone on the trans spectrum by meaning anyone from CD to TS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What gets up my nose is the clubs that charge Tgirls the male entry price. Most Tgirls will sort out the excess single males (not saying I would tbh) but at the end of the day most blokes wouldn't care if they were getting a bj from a decent looking Tgirl. So it seems strange to me that many clubs still adopt this strategy. Luckily I know a few that don't.

"

I'm going to have to disagree about guys not caring.. I do think that once the law recognises you as a female that you should get in as a female... But.. if pre op I do think that majority of guys would not be happy..

I know I wouldn't be happy if I was playing with someone and didn't know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Better idea would be a singles only club and then make sure there is an almost equal number of men and women. How about a speed date singles night 50 men and 50 women?

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By *ovelybumCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couple looking for sexual adventure = swingers. Single horny men looking for sex are not swingers. Can pick up said men in any pub/club any night of any week. Don't moan that you are not getting enough sex on the ' swinging scene' because hun, your are not a swinger by definition . Single men as and when required are invited ( keyword ) to join the action and should not be under the impression that interaction is a given. Sorry to sound harsh but if you want sex witb out effort.....pay for it. To many singles thinking women are all pornstars because we swing .

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Apparently people here cant math.

I come back after a few weeks..."

4 days is a few weeks ? :D


"

600% of £10 is £60 for example as to the difference.

You all know the nonsense of being excluded BECAUSE you're a male and thus not 'fair game' if I were to just bring in a woman I would not only be financially unexploited but actually get way more attention.

Start my OWN club? If I could invest the capital I would. "

Having been to many a swinging club on a single guys night the only thing stopping the places being 50/1 (men to women/couples) is the entrance fee, as long as swinging remains an activity dominated by men to such an extreme degree then prices are going to reflect this.

No ones forcing you to go to a club and I dare say no ones going to miss yet another single guy at a club with entitlement issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Better idea would be a singles only club and then make sure there is an almost equal number of men and women. How about a speed date singles night 50 men and 50 women?"

none of this is swinging.

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Better idea would be a singles only club and then make sure there is an almost equal number of men and women. How about a speed date singles night 50 men and 50 women?

none of this is swinging."

Aren't these just pubs and clubs with higher entrance fees ?

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Couple looking for sexual adventure = swingers. Single horny men looking for sex are not swingers. Can pick up said men in any pub/club any night of any week. Don't moan that you are not getting enough sex on the ' swinging scene' because hun, your are not a swinger by definition . Single men as and when required are invited ( keyword ) to join the action and should not be under the impression that interaction is a given. Sorry to sound harsh but if you want sex witb out effort.....pay for it. To many singles thinking women are all pornstars because we swing . "

I think you'll find that that attitude doesn't sit well with many on here. I first encountered the term "swingle" here on the forums and I rather like it. Many couples would be very disappointed if all the single guys and girls disappeared from the scene. If I wanted purely one on one sex I'd go out to pubs and clubs and pick up girls like I did in my twenties but as it happens I'm looking for something different, I am a swingle!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guys, swinging is or was a lifestyle pursued by couples. Singles can not be considered to 'swing'. Do not complain about a lifestyle choice that has, sadly, been hijacked by the sheer volume of single men flooding the scene with complaints about something that you are not entiltled to.

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Guys, swinging is or was a lifestyle pursued by couples. Singles can not be considered to 'swing'. Do not complain about a lifestyle choice that has, sadly, been hijacked by the sheer volume of single men flooding the scene with complaints about something that you are not entiltled to. "

"Entitled" was exactly the word I was thinking of.

Funny how the single bi fems aren't dismissed quite so quickly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try looking at it from a couples point of view. There isa reason why the single guys to couples ratio gap isso high. In the community, it is a common complaint.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single bifems ? We dont stay single long. We are a greedy breed lol x

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Guys, swinging is or was a lifestyle pursued by couples. Singles can not be considered to 'swing'. Do not complain about a lifestyle choice that has, sadly, been hijacked by the sheer volume of single men flooding the scene with complaints about something that you are not entiltled to. "

I actually agree with what you're saying, but word of warning when certain "people" start seeing this comment the nasty sarcy comments will come rolling in.

I also believe that if a single takes part in a swinging scenario you can consider them a swinger, its the singles that are just looking for singles that cant (imo ;P).

I guess to bring it back onto the subject of clubs (as this is what the thread is about), single "guy" nights and clubs that LET single guys in are doing so as an extra to the swinging community so dont bite the hand that feeds!

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Try looking at it from a couples point of view. There isa reason why the single guys to couples ratio gap isso high. In the community, it is a common complaint."

Personally, I don't go to clubs. I've been a couple of times and was put off by the number of single guys. However, if I am going to play with a couple and I feel like I am just going to be treated like a glorified sex toy then I am no longer interested. Luckily for me there are plenty of couples out there that enjoy single guys and make them feel wanted and part of the experience.

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By *exiSlutBabeWoman
over a year ago

Stoke

Of course clubs needn't subsidise single females and couples to enter clubs, they might be a bit desolate though, if the couples and single females don't go in the guys will have a great time, providing they are gay of course.

What a rip off on guys eh, except that it generally costs more for couples to go than it does men. They may not pay it on the door but they pay it in sitters, double the cost of drinks, outfits for the women, double the food costs and couples tend to travel further to clubs than men, men generally (but not always of course) tend to go to the nearest club.

I will accept that your being ripped off if you can explain to me why I am charged 250% more for a cut and blow dry than men are.

Why I am charged more for a blouse than men are for a shirt.

Why I am charged more for a pair of knickers than a man pays for the much more material consuming boxers they buy

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By *exiSlutBabeWoman
over a year ago

Stoke

and ..... one of the clubs I go to charge couples £25 on a sat night with free lifetime membership, £10 on a Friday night.

The same club charges £30 for single males with free lifetime membership, is that such a rip off or an attempt to get more couples and single females in for the men to enjoy, like happy hour in pubs and nightclubs

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By *eareenaCouple
over a year ago

Rockford

Supply and demand... basic economics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why not join my wank club for men?, we all wank over the pics I steal off fab and laminate..its as close to the real thing as u can get

only £100 a month to join

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Believe me hun, we are onenof those couples ! How ever it is challenging these days to out guys like yourself who are looking to join a couple like us for nsa fun from the sheer volume of fake, pervs, puc collectors etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting. That is all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try looking at it from a couples point of view. There isa reason why the single guys to couples ratio gap isso high. In the community, it is a common complaint."

I'd be interested to hear why you feel that you can offer an opinion on behalf of "the community"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all have or are part of a community. Our group or 'community' have similar opinions. Are you still confused ?

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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago

folkestone

Clubs are private clubs so they can charge what they want. I wouldn't mind the charging more of single guys so much if (as it's often said) it kept away the single guys who can't behave, but it doesn't, it just means the the ones who can't behave with plenty of money can still get in.

Last time i went to a club(used to be a regular), i left early because they had let several groups of Friends who didn't know how to behave, and scared many of the couples off, and they get the impression all single guys are like that.

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By *orflondonerMan
over a year ago

Wood Green


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!

Sounds like Rio's in London. A lesson in why a pricing structures that favour singlemen and does not restrict their numbers simply does not work."

Aint that the truth...And I am a single man

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By *ayandess1Couple
over a year ago

bridgwater

Well to be honest if we had our way it would just be couples at clubs. Single guys tend to constantly hover and they put us on edge when they get over interested.

It would be nice to go to a party without having my "protect my woman" hat on.

Don't get me wrong most times its fine but it only takes that one time where she has physically had to force someone away to put you in that mind frame forever.

Incedently that man was banned but appeared just a few weeks later.

Some single men have no idea how to treat a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm pretty sure no club charges 600% more admission for singlemen... That was the only bit I could make any sense off."

i know chams charges nigh on a hundred quid and men can only go friday nights in newport it much cheaper for fems or couples i think its totally unfair

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Well to be honest if we had our way it would just be couples at clubs. Single guys tend to constantly hover and they put us on edge when they get over interested.

It would be nice to go to a party without having my "protect my woman" hat on.

Don't get me wrong most times its fine but it only takes that one time where she has physically had to force someone away to put you in that mind frame forever.

Incedently that man was banned but appeared just a few weeks later.

Some single men have no idea how to treat a woman. "

whereas at the clubs where I have been to the worst offenders for the type of actions you are talking about are the married men who wander around the club as you described like "a single bloke"..... and they think they are bulletproof because they came with "lady".......

lets just face it... an arse in an arse regardless of them being a single men, a married man... a d*unk woman (see them bladder out of skulls in clubs.. again not appealing) and a ton of other things i could mention.. my favourite being when 1 half of a couple goes "rouge".. you can see that arguement coming a mile off!!!!

I go to the club I got to not because I play nearly as often as people would like to think, but because of the social vibe, the friends i have made.. and well... damn its a good saturday night regardless...

to do that I budget... I am much better at doing that now than I ever was 10-15 years ago, and that one of the reasons you see older guys at clubs...

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"

lets just face it... an arse in an arse regardless of them being a single men, a married man... a d*unk woman (see them bladder out of skulls in clubs.. again not appealing) and a ton of other things i could mention.. my favourite being when 1 half of a couple goes "rouge".. you can see that arguement coming a mile off!!!!

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Its the volume of them that causes the problems. There are just that many more single guys, we have had plenty of arsey take the piss couples on here and in clubs, same can be said for single females but given the sheer volume its something you see on here in a daily basis and almost any club night with single guys will have guys taking the piss.

Percentage wise there are probably less piss taking idiots among the men but there are just so many of them so very very many of them total.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Instead of putting the prices higher, why can't they just put a limit on the amount of single guys who can be in the club

never been to a club, so just thought I'd ask"
as far as i know most clubs do limit amount of single guys and dont charge a arm and a leg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"why not join my wank club for men?, we all wank over the pics I steal off fab and laminate..its as close to the real thing as u can get

only £100 a month to join"
100 a month bit steep lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I started looking at going to clubs the pricing amazed me for single guys. When I realised they charge those prices because they can and for no other good reason.

It made up my mind up for me if an event does not suit me or my budget I won't go.

No point moaning it really comes down to supply and demand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a single woman that goes to clubs, I would stop going if it was overrun by guys. I find toomany to be very intimidating. Ans as far as ive experienced, the pricing structure does go some way towards avoiding clubs being overrun.

Also, I wouldnt want to play with someone with the aggressiveness shown by the OP so if it puts people like that off all the better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a single woman that goes to clubs, I would stop going if it was overrun by guys. I find toomany to be very intimidating. Ans as far as ive experienced, the pricing structure does go some way towards avoiding clubs being overrun.

Also, I wouldnt want to play with someone with the aggressiveness shown by the OP so if it puts people like that off all the better."

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore!"
The answer is simple and cost free to clubs. Single men contact the club in advance and book entry. No booking no entry. The numbers are easily controlled for the benefit of all.

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By *inktherapyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Well to be honest if we had our way it would just be couples at clubs. Single guys tend to constantly hover and they put us on edge when they get over interested.

It would be nice to go to a party without having my "protect my woman" hat on.

Don't get me wrong most times its fine but it only takes that one time where she has physically had to force someone away to put you in that mind frame forever.

Incedently that man was banned but appeared just a few weeks later.

Some single men have no idea how to treat a woman. "

As part of a couple who do not play with other couples we would not go to just couples clubs - tried it and it's not our thing (we'll happily play separately in clubs - easier to do this than find a 4 way attraction with another couple and , anyway, I prefer playing with single guys :D) - many single men can treat women just fine.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

As I've said before on similar threads to this.

The single guys pricing structure is not unique to the UK. It is much the same in Germany, Holland, Spain, France, and I suppose every other country that has swinger clubs.

For example we are going to a club in Germany this weekend and the price for a couple is 45 euro, single male 90 euro and single woman free. Another club we go to regularly charges 75 euro for a couple, 10 euro for a single woman and a whopping 130 euro for a single guy.

There are some clubs that are strictly couples only and as an observation nearly all are more expensive for couples than the mixed clubs. The conclusion must be that if the single guys money is taken out of the equation the price for couples increases.

Is it fair? probably not. Does it work? yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will never be a solution to this argument.

For the couples that are put off by single men? Go on a couples only night. Simples!

For the men that begrudge the entrance fees? Don't go. Equally simple.

For those that do go - expect nothing and abide by the rules of respect and you'll be fine. That goes for both the couples AND the singles. No means no - and if all parties are clear in their communications and interactions then everyone can get along fine. If couples don't want to run the risk of being pestered by those they don't wish to play with then use the private rooms (available in every club I've ever been to) and you'll avoid any problems. And if any problems occur then reporting to club staff should be the first thing you do.

It's easy for everyone to enjoy a club environment - and it's also easy for single guys to thrive in them, find those that don't charge over the odds and become part of the 'community' a previous poster mentioned. (Don't get me started on the singles can't be swingers debate - 'wife swapping' is part of history and swinging is meant to be 'inclusive', not 'exclusive'). The simple fact is that clubs are there for all - and your enjoyment of them is entirely dependant of your behaviour, respect and lack of expectancy. And that's a point that applies to both singles and couples!

Just my 2 cents from a long standing single AND couple club goer. As Fabio inferred - I've met as many dickhead couples who have an attuitude and superiority complex as I have single pushy guys. Nobody owns the club scene (except the club owners!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I spend a lot less money going to swinging clubs than I do going to regular clubs. The prices seem very reasonable to me. You drink less when swinging, talk to a lot more interesting people and on the odd occasion even get invited to have some filthy fun. Cheap at the price in my opinion

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By *heRainManMan
over a year ago

Warrington & Glasgow


"There will never be a solution to this argument.

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Nobody owns the club scene (except the club owners!) "

Spoken like a true Jedi Master!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the answer is simple.

Cheaper admission = more guys

more guys= intimidation as they try to muscle in on the fun. After all according to them they paid their money so its expected.

More guys =less couples and single women.

Less single women and couples = unhappy guys writing in forums asking why dont single women and couples go to clubs anymore! The answer is simple and cost free to clubs. Single men contact the club in advance and book entry. No booking no entry. The numbers are easily controlled for the benefit of all."

but then what happens when females wont go because they are then been charged more to get in, as has been said plenty this club pricing system works well across the world, not just england, so why fix something that isnt broken, at the end of day if guys like the op have a problem then dont go, plenty single men will still go.

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By *aughtywifeandhimCouple
over a year ago

bedford

Think you hit the nail on the head .totally agree with you .even tho we do play with single guys at clubs wo prefer clubs to keep to just a few regular guys

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By *ayandess1Couple
over a year ago

bridgwater


"Guys, swinging is or was a lifestyle pursued by couples. Singles can not be considered to 'swing'. Do not complain about a lifestyle choice that has, sadly, been hijacked by the sheer volume of single men flooding the scene with complaints about something that you are not entiltled to. "

what they said!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Guys, swinging is or was a lifestyle pursued by couples. Singles can not be considered to 'swing'. Do not complain about a lifestyle choice that has, sadly, been hijacked by the sheer volume of single men flooding the scene with complaints about something that you are not entiltled to.

what they said!"

So you won't be looking for single females any more?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tight bastard I've been to a club paid the extra and had loads of fun ratios seemed about right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They find us hun and unlike single men dont push us to play. We do play with guys but are fussy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They find us hun and unlike single men dont push us to play. We do play with guys but are fussy!"

Chucking all those of a specific gender in the same category is never a good idea. As I'm sure you've found - there are good single guys as much as bad - it comes down to the individual! Much like there are pushy, expectant couples and single fems who take offence when a guy says he's not interested.

Nothing wrong with being fussy - preferences are what distinguish those who understand this lifestyle from those out for a quick, easy shag. And again - there's couples and singles of both sexes who use the site just to find exactly that!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I can quite honestly say that I have never felt as if single guys are being pushy in a club when it comes to playing with me. Quite the opposite in fact!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are lucky lol. I would suggest that we like, many couples on here state 'not looking for single men' do so because of negitive experiance

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"You are lucky lol. I would suggest that we like, many couples on here state 'not looking for single men' do so because of negitive experiance "

Maybe same reason why some single women are not looking for couples because of negative experiences?

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Ive removed posts and Im closing the thread

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