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"People who don't clean up after themselves in clubs is one of my pet peeves. How rude and disrespectful can they be? It only takes a few minutes to use the disinfectant spray and wipe the play surface clean. And every room in most clubs has a bin - how hard is it to put used condoms in it? We always leave any room we've used in the condition we'd like to find it - clean and tidy!" Makes you wonder what they live like ?? | |||
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"Well those that go.. NOW I am sure everyone will say its not them... but honestly last night several playrooms Lee and I went into were left in quite a state.. and this is by no means exclusive to LC. Chams is the same... and its just not on.. I always wipe up and clear away a room after I have played in one... And it doesnt really take much.. So please if you use a playroom be it open or private ( find the private rooms to be the worst to be honest) CLEAN UP AFTER YOURSELVES... I wanted to use the glory hole at LC last night but it was in such a state it put me off and changed my mind. " Dear Lord.......is this what it has come too? | |||
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"Can't blame the clubs though, it's the individuals who leave room on a mess in first place, takes ten seconds to put condom in a bin, and 30 secs to wipe a bed, come on peeps, thinks about others, we all wanna have fun you know" To be fair not all clubs have stuff to clean the beds. Minimum should be sprays and paper to clean the beds but staff need to check too. As I've found that rooms can be in a state for a while. | |||
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"A glory hole left in a state....lol " It's not funny or acceptable really... The people using it should think. Now if it had been a little bit of a mess I would have happily done it myself.. but this was very messy. Used condoms and cum everywhere... And tissue obviously from wiping up.. but they chose to leave it. Cali | |||
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"Being devil's advocate, do you clean the public toilets after you use them? Yes, disgusting not putting condoms in bin but clubs need to a. Provide cleaning equipment for those who want to clean up b. Provide staff to check and clean up (people do pay to enter these premises after all). Clubs have to take some responsibility as well as those making the mess" I certainly wouldn't leave a mess in a public toilet, but same as I wouldn't use the room, I wouldn't use a public toilet if it were a mess either. There is no excuse for not cleaning up after yourself at a club... It's basic manners.. | |||
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"Being devil's advocate, do you clean the public toilets after you use them? Yes, disgusting not putting condoms in bin but clubs need to a. Provide cleaning equipment for those who want to clean up b. Provide staff to check and clean up (people do pay to enter these premises after all). Clubs have to take some responsibility as well as those making the mess I certainly wouldn't leave a mess in a public toilet, but same as I wouldn't use the room, I wouldn't use a public toilet if it were a mess either. There is no excuse for not cleaning up after yourself at a club... It's basic manners.. " And as I said, the club also has responsibilities for ensuring place is clean. Providing equipment to clean up is a must but also employing staff to go round ensuring the place is clean. That is why you find toilets in shopping centred etc are inspected and vlean frequently. They know they will need cleaning so a regime is put in place, you commenting that the rooms at LC can get messy therefore management should have a system inplace to regularly check and clean. This is not condoning the dirty twats who make the mess, it will never change so management need to step in and provide somewhere clean to play in. | |||
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"I was in the couples room at Cupids and there was a young girl who was gushing everywhere and going 'OOOOO look how wet I am' and then left her mess behind here.. tut ..tut little girl ..." Its at that point bring your own towels!!! Ive been to 3 clubs in my local area out of that id say arousals is the cleanist. Shsron ans co so drink and empty ashtrays well into the early hours and the rooms an well looked after Worst experiance i has was radletts where i was playing with a couple amd rolled over into someone elses cum. I wouldnt really mind but there was sooo much! Was like the guy had not cum in 10 years and in the centre of the bed ewww | |||
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"A glory hole left in a state....lol It's not funny or acceptable really... The people using it should think. Now if it had been a little bit of a mess I would have happily done it myself.. but this was very messy. Used condoms and cum everywhere... And tissue obviously from wiping up.. but they chose to leave it. Cali" WOW! to the two comments (one fairly reportable), the joke comment about the gloryhole being left in a state, i think if i'm not being very silly was basically aimed at the imagination of the glory hole being the pussy left in a state. in fact I was going to say something quite similar with a lol! fucking glad I didnt if thats the reaction some people have! reporting the black lurker comment as it is entirely out of order! | |||
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"A glory hole left in a state....lol It's not funny or acceptable really... The people using it should think. Now if it had been a little bit of a mess I would have happily done it myself.. but this was very messy. Used condoms and cum everywhere... And tissue obviously from wiping up.. but they chose to leave it. Cali" The unacceptable face of recreational sex clubs! | |||
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"And then you think about the number of people you've seen walking out of the toilets without washing their hands. Makes you wonder if the most hygenic thing might be to wash yourself in dettol. Mmmmm tasty!" This is our pet hate as well, we were at our club once and had a rough count each time we went to the loo (we based it on how often the hand dryer was used) ime afraid to say the ladies turned out to be the biggest culprits. Its bad enough in general, but at a swingers club were personal contact is likely, no excuse! | |||
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"I think you have to be aware that the club scene has its drawbacks on the hygiene front? Couple of instances stick in my mind the first being a couple who had been in open play with two guys who almost immediately after they had finished playing went to the buffet and helped themselves to the fayre. On the other occasion I saw a lady pleasure two gentlemen to completion in the pool, despite signs to the contrary, which left deposits in said pool. Needless to say I did not avail myself of the food nor felt inclined to go for a dip in the pool!" We've had to clean up rooms both before and after using them on a few occasions - fortunately not every room is left in a disgusting state. The worst was at Chams when we visited a while back - it was a large private lockable room and when we walked in we were faces with what looked like spunk Armageddon - plus the stench was unbearable (some lady with BV I suspect). We couldn't face staying and left. On the pool / hot-tub front ... realising that some people are inconsiderate enough to 'play to completion' in there, I make sure I never submerge my face / head as I hate to think what might be going in my eyes or mouth - and I shower when I get out. I think it's a bit like using public toilets - if you want to use the facility you just have to be aware that 'some' people are disgusting toe-rags and take whatever measures you can to minimise the risk to yourself. It won't put us off going to clubs though - we just stay vigilant and don't assume people have the same high standards of hygiene and levels of consideration as ourselves. | |||
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"A glory hole left in a state....lol It's not funny or acceptable really... The people using it should think. Now if it had been a little bit of a mess I would have happily done it myself.. but this was very messy. Used condoms and cum everywhere... And tissue obviously from wiping up.. but they chose to leave it. Cali WOW! to the two comments (one fairly reportable), the joke comment about the gloryhole being left in a state, i think if i'm not being very silly was basically aimed at the imagination of the glory hole being the pussy left in a state. in fact I was going to say something quite similar with a lol! fucking glad I didnt if thats the reaction some people have! reporting the black lurker comment as it is entirely out of order!Yes your right No need for that comment. " | |||
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"I have never visited a club...and being very hygienic im not sure I ever will now to be honest..this thread has put me off...but im thankful of OP s honesty and it seems most other posts agree with her....what a shame like minded peeps cant go to a place to enjoy themselves....I would be so worried about catching something..sexual or not it would seem....." To be fair it's not all clubs, I can name a few that have always been spotless, sprays and wipes provided. From my experience its the bigger clubs that don't seem to be kept clean, and agree more staff needed to ensure kept clean, equipment for cleaning should be in all clubs. Dont write off visiting a club on one forum post | |||
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"Being devil's advocate, do you clean the public toilets after you use them? Yes, disgusting not putting condoms in bin but clubs need to a. Provide cleaning equipment for those who want to clean up b. Provide staff to check and clean up (people do pay to enter these premises after all). Clubs have to take some responsibility as well as those making the mess I certainly wouldn't leave a mess in a public toilet, but same as I wouldn't use the room, I wouldn't use a public toilet if it were a mess either. There is no excuse for not cleaning up after yourself at a club... It's basic manners.. And as I said, the club also has responsibilities for ensuring place is clean. Providing equipment to clean up is a must but also employing staff to go round ensuring the place is clean. That is why you find toilets in shopping centred etc are inspected and vlean frequently. They know they will need cleaning so a regime is put in place, you commenting that the rooms at LC can get messy therefore management should have a system inplace to regularly check and clean. This is not condoning the dirty twats who make the mess, it will never change so management need to step in and provide somewhere clean to play in. " We go to 2 clubs, VA and Tease and have never encountered this problem. To me that is very much a reflection on the clubs staff and ethics as it is the customers. People shouldn't leave a mess - totally unjustifiable but the sad reality is that some will and surely all clubs recognise that and have a reponsibility to keep things clean for other customers? | |||
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" We go to 2 clubs, VA and Tease and have never encountered this problem. To me that is very much a reflection on the clubs staff and ethics as it is the customers. People shouldn't leave a mess - totally unjustifiable but the sad reality is that some will and surely all clubs recognise that and have a reponsibility to keep things clean for other customers? " Exactly. Its for the clubs to deal with after all they are the ones making the money and to expect everyone to be clean and tidy is a bit funny really. | |||
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" We go to 2 clubs, VA and Tease and have never encountered this problem. To me that is very much a reflection on the clubs staff and ethics as it is the customers. People shouldn't leave a mess - totally unjustifiable but the sad reality is that some will and surely all clubs recognise that and have a reponsibility to keep things clean for other customers? Exactly. Its for the clubs to deal with after all they are the ones making the money and to expect everyone to be clean and tidy is a bit funny really. " So you think it's okay for people to leave used condoms and cum all over a bed..?... Yes staff should check every so often but I would never not clean up after myself. | |||
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" We go to 2 clubs, VA and Tease and have never encountered this problem. To me that is very much a reflection on the clubs staff and ethics as it is the customers. People shouldn't leave a mess - totally unjustifiable but the sad reality is that some will and surely all clubs recognise that and have a reponsibility to keep things clean for other customers? Exactly. Its for the clubs to deal with after all they are the ones making the money and to expect everyone to be clean and tidy is a bit funny really. So you think it's okay for people to leave used condoms and cum all over a bed..?... Yes staff should check every so often but I would never not clean up after myself. " Absolutely right! We'd never DREAM of expecting others to clean up after us! The staff at clubs should certainly check rooms and make sure bins don't need emptying and that there is plenty of stuff available for cleaning up but I don't think they should be expected to wipe up cum and dispose of used condoms left by inconsiderate knuckle draggers | |||
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" So you think it's okay for people to leave used condoms and cum all over a bed..?... Yes staff should check every so often but I would never not clean up after myself. " congratulations Cali you managed to read but not take anything I have said in. I think its disgusting but I also think expecting people to all be clean hygienic and considerate is stupid, this is not the world we all live in and with this in mind a club (a good club) should have people patrolling the areas making sure they clean all night. DO you think this ranty forum thread is going to achieve anything ? do you think the people who left those areas in that state are going to go "hmm that was us I have realised the error of my ways thanks to the internet!". People will be people and expecting them to be anything else is a little bit naive, just go into a public toilet sometime and have a look at the disgusting state they are left in, people don't suddenly stop being people cause they are all part of the wonderful swingers club | |||
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"Sorry but I don't think it's stupid to expect people to be considerate... Not in the slightest.. as it doesn't happen at all clubs.. mostly because people tend to follow by example. And no one will admit to having not cleaned up but it may make someone think twice.. it may make club staff Rethink... It may not but well such is life. " In an ideal would people would be considerate wonderful people who all care about everyone else and their experience. In the real world people get very d*unk, very horny and common decency goes out the window. For me the responsibility to deal with this lies with the clubs, either they pout policy's in place (ie if you're seeing leaving an area in a shit state you get banned, or more active staff that clean areas through the night). Expecting people to be anything other than people is very naive is all especially when d*unk and horny. | |||
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"Ok fair enough as posts go Cali, do u think this is helping the clubs or those interested in going?...did u actually tell the staff what u thought?.. two negative threads about clubs in a short space of time, and now we have posters saying thats why they wouldnt visit a club..seedy and dirty places!" You're right in that I think the thread needs a bit of balance. SOME people are inconsiderate and dirty, OCCASIONALLY we've found a room left in a less-than-ideal state ... but generally we haven't found it a major problem and most clubs aren't filthy and seedy. If they were we wouldn't attend and we do on a regular basis. It would be a shame if people were put off trying a club because they could potentially find a room in a bit of a mess ... if that happened they wouldn't be expected to clean it - they could report it to the staff who I'm sure would only be too happy to sort it out. We just do it if we find it because it's quicker. We did find a puddle of red wine on a vinyl play surface once and felt that needed something a bit more substantial than some kitchen roll and spray disinfectant so told the staff and they were right on it with the proper cleaning equipment with no fuss whatsoever. | |||
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" two negative threads about clubs in a short space of time, and now we have posters saying thats why they wouldnt visit a club..seedy and dirty places!" Many of the clubs we have visited have been incredibly clean. Adventures in lust, Atlantis, LC, Ourplace4fun have been clean throughout the night (staff lead). If someone is using a thread like this and such a small sample size to influence their decisions then they are being a little bit ridiculous and over the top. | |||
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"Rule of thumb with playrooms in ANY club: Always walkout having left the room in a state you would want to find it as if you were the next person to come in to use it. If that doesn't make sense to anyone... then you're one of the messy ones " I suppose I have to say, like any establishment I'm paying my entry to use the premises not for its upkeep. A restaurant doesnt want its customers cleaning tables etc on routine checks, for health and safety reasons, a staff member would be able to close a room for lets say 10-15mins have it cleaned up every hr at least?- I dont think its too much to ask? yes people should be using bins provided. and my last point, if there are any jobs going for cleaning on the nite...I'd do it lol | |||
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"Ok fair enough as posts go Cali, do u think this is helping the clubs or those interested in going?...did u actually tell the staff what u thought?.. two negative threads about clubs in a short space of time, and now we have posters saying thats why they wouldnt visit a club..seedy and dirty places!" I hardly think thats Cali's fault, shes entitled to post her thoughts and comments about the club if they are how she sees things, I dont see anyone coming to the deffence saying " oh no your wrong as I visit there every week and the rooms are always spottless" As for the "stupid" and " niave" comments above, I think you should look at the way you see things if you honestly think anyone should clean up other peoples "sex jucies" and that staff would know just at that right moment when one group of people leave a room and another group wish to use it! Ive seen people waiting for ages for rooms and its one in and one out! Yes I know there are some mucky buggers out there who think that because they pay into a club and they can leave whatever mess they like, well for those people.... next time the room you want to use isnt clean enough then think about it, next time you move over and roll into an unknown wet patch... serves you right | |||
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"I will praise when needed... But this isn't the first time at lc... I like the club, and I've been complaining for a while about it at chameleons... I don't think someone will judge a club on one thread... and to be honest as someone that uses clubs on a sometimes twice weekly Basis I am not going to keep quiet always... I have emailed the club about this and had messages from others there on the same night. so maybe it was an exceptionally bad night. But if people think.. oh I am guilty of this, maybe they will think twice. " If its that bad why do you keep going back?? Surely if you find it that repulsive and dirty you would go elsewhere!!! | |||
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"We were considering a club meet but this has put us off the whole idea Sounds disgusting" Not every club is like that. This thread is a bit of a generalisation. | |||
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"We were considering a club meet but this has put us off the whole idea Sounds disgusting" Really shouldn't be put off, not every club is dirty all the time, just some nights worse than others. I think point Cali is trying to make is that all club users should be more considerate and think of others using facilities to, not just their own 10 minutes of pleasure. And if this thread makes a few people more aware, then great. Club owners though, especially bigger clubs, please do more staff patrols of play rooms, as from my experience it does seen that bigger clubs are ones that left in messy states. And chams, cleaning supplies in all rooms, I went recently on a day time, only two rooms had paper towels, no sprays in any of the rooms | |||
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"We were considering a club meet but this has put us off the whole idea Sounds disgusting" Please don't let it put you off. Not all clubs are the same - in fact, the majority of clubs in the UK are really nice places to go! | |||
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"We were considering a club meet but this has put us off the whole idea Sounds disgusting" It's not always like that.. I put this thread up because as a regular club attendee I don't find it acceptable... Had it been my first visit it would have likely been my last... I go to a club at least once a week, sometimes more... And this is first time I've felt the need to comment so openly about it.. basically as it was particularly bad... The good visits far outweigh the bad.... This is more a rant at the fact that people can be so inconsiderate. But guess it's the same as those that chuck rubbish everywhere at picnic sites etc. | |||
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"We were considering a club meet but this has put us off the whole idea Sounds disgusting Please don't let it put you off. Not all clubs are the same - in fact, the majority of clubs in the UK are really nice places to go!" And it can happen one night but not on most nights - I've had a similar issue at both of the mentioned clubs but it's very rare. But like many annoyances if it happens once in a night then that's the night it happens three times! Probably cos the same people are doing it in different rooms... Most club goers clear up after themselves and it's just a handful who don't. | |||
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"As for chams ive always been told this is the best club in Britain but tbh everytime I've been it had used condoms left either on the rooms by the side of the jacuzzi or outside on the sundeck !!! And there has never in my 10 times of going been any sprays in the room just toilet roll ... Love both clubs but what does it hurt to clean up after yourself " I think where Chams is concerned people confuse best with most popular or largest. | |||
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"As for chams ive always been told this is the best club in Britain but tbh everytime I've been it had used condoms left either on the rooms by the side of the jacuzzi or outside on the sundeck !!! And there has never in my 10 times of going been any sprays in the room just toilet roll ... Love both clubs but what does it hurt to clean up after yourself I think where Chams is concerned people confuse best with most popular or largest." We havnt been but from what ive heard I think your right | |||
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