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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

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I was going to go Chameleons for a birthday party But was informed by the club that as I'm a single guy I would have to pay £70 membership then if I did get membership it would be a further £30 entrance fee I explained that I was coming to attend a birthday party and as I live in manchester repeated visits would not be likely and did they have a 1 time victors price like many clubs that still demand single males have Is it me or does any1 else think this is totally out of order

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its called singkeblokeitis clubs say its to deter amount of single chaps yet a simple way would be to make clubs monitor how many through door say for 30 single men after that rest do not get in unless on invite list if a private function.

It could be done but then its easier for clubs to charge extortionste rates on single guys. If they are intent driving folk away then they do goid job.

Then when time comes they get real and realise numbers are down then they may be reasonable.

If private function and therefore invite only no justification for fee of 30 quid in my view i only been one club one time and will not go again until such time single chaps get fair crack of whip.

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By *he MuncherMan
over a year ago

Dundee

Not sure the "clubs" will ever change really, they are only interested in couples and females...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know xotix only allow one single guy in for every couple that's in. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to be a single member of chams and it's one of the better clubs. To be honest feel free to complain about prices but club is never short of men when we've been there.

It's not a charitable institution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know xotix only allow one single guy in for every couple that's in. X"

Thats hood idea but if they chsrge extortionate rates like other clubs especially in economic climate we are in clubs will see reduction in my view.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah it's a big time bump , I only go to one club where I'm happy to pay the singke guy entrance fee as I known Its worth it but aside from that would advise goiong to clubs with your GF /Wife !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the clubs are killing themselves sometime places are not busy due the current economic situation , and whats happening during the time u go as well , i have joined and been to more clubs , and would like to visit more , i expect not just to go and get a shag am not that type will chat n socialise , and if play is consented between people even better, but the burden and money machine is placed clearly on the single male money machine , and sometimes u have to draw a line .....

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

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Its not the £30 entrance fee that pissed me off its the £70 for the maybe membership

A few yrs back the clubs in manchester used to ask for membership but I not hear of a membership fee for a while but even back then if u was from out of town you could normally pay £30 £40 to get in I would of paid that happily

I'm single so taking a wife or gf is notan option and I have put many ads askin for a date to take my train and hotel are booked and paid for either way I'm a 1er out of pocket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know xotix only allow one single guy in for every couple that's in. X

Thats hood idea but if they chsrge extortionate rates like other clubs especially in economic climate we are in clubs will see reduction in my view."

I've not really seen any clubs struggling to get single guys through the door, after all even the most expensive is cheaper than most escorts hourly rates, or a hotel and a meal...

Your not guaranteed anything but you do get a decent night out and possibility of more.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

thats just one club....

my local club I think charges 20 for membership.. and different prices for the different nights ranging from 20-30 pounds.....

yes membership plus admittance for a one off night is expensive... and it is one of my bug bears as well, i wish there was a better way of doing it...

some of the posts above the smack a bit of "well i have paid me money.... i am owed"

those who go to clubs and succeed tend to be the ones that are socialable....

playing on my nights at clubs is a bonus, certainly not the be all and end all......

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

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"thats just one club....

my local club I think charges 20 for membership.. and different prices for the different nights ranging from 20-30 pounds.....

yes membership plus admittance for a one off night is expensive... and it is one of my bug bears as well, i wish there was a better way of doing it...

some of the posts above the smack a bit of "well i have paid me money.... i am owed"

those who go to clubs and succeed tend to be the ones that are socialable....

playing on my nights at clubs is a bonus, certainly not the be all and end all......"

My local club its about £30 £40 depending if there is a party but Chameleons really shocked me I could not believe rhere were still club that charged single guys so much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they've dropped their prices as it used to be £76 for a yearly membership

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

Sale


"Maybe they've dropped their prices as it used to be £76 for a yearly membership "

Either way its a bit much for someone from out of town and who will not be back for a long time if at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe they've dropped their prices as it used to be £76 for a yearly membership

Either way its a bit much for someone from out of town and who will not be back for a long time if at all "
if your attending a party surely one of your friends could buddie up with you for the evening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing is the current system works, the majority of single men that go in our local club are genuine and act in the right way, only the odd occasion does one ignore the rules.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable "

Good idea.

I think the single male rates are extortionate and disgusting. Always funny how couples think it's fine. Could it be because they aren't affected?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

for a lot of guys the reason why they are hear is the same reason why they wont go go to clubs..

its free here.... why pay????

the overall thing of paying memberships to clubs isn't an issue for regular visits......, I think the issue is the "one-off visits" where you have to pay everything up front in one go..

for example... if i go to a manchester once a year for a social, and wanted to go to a club the night before.... could i justify paying both membership and admission?

the answer for me is probably not for such a big outlay.........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable "
good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chameleons is always really busy when ever we go and I believe there is a waiting list for single males, I think there are plenty of people prepared to pay, it is just economics I'm afraid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with _abio as a single guy it can work out an expensive night for a club venture however some clubs areworth the money I'm a member at quite a few but some youdont really feel comfortable in ... And it's what you are like as a person in clubs social butterflys always get on in clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable

Good idea.

I think the single male rates are extortionate and disgusting. Always funny how couples think it's fine. Could it be because they aren't affected?

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no its because like i said the current system works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The club where we go be never seems to struggle with single guys on the single guys night. Just that they seem to be a bit older than what we are looking for. I suppose its all down to disposable income.

It helps that they also run a free entry evening every week which keeps the costs down and is welcome to all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're travelling down for someone's birthday (assuming they are members) why not see if they will take you in as their guest for the night, chams do allow this as long as you arrive and leave with them and also have the correct id.

If you'd like more details on it either ring the club again or email the manager. He can approve one off guest passes.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Lets compare it to a gay sauna...

12 month membership = £12

Admission on a Sat night = £14

They are times I am glad I am bi

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

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The people having a party are not members the picked chams coz it half way

I tried to explain to the club but they were not having it plus the is no guarantee I'll even be given membership I can get there too early as I have work so won't be able to set off from manchester till after 3 so I won't get to walsall till after 7

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

Sale


"Lets compare it to a gay sauna...

12 month membership = £12

Admission on a Sat night = £14

They are times I am glad I am bi "

Luck old you lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to be a member at adam and eves but after my.membership.wanted renewing i thought the times i come here its not really worth it and its the cost of fuel as well they seem dead against single guys

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By *ohohoWoman
over a year ago

Up North

I am so glad I am female. I couldn't afford these fees.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

You think the Chams prices are high, you should look at the London club admissions. £70 for a single female, god only knows what the fees are for single men!

I agree that membership fees should be waived for first visits, especially as they can check you are out of town via your ID. I have started to go to clubs a lot less due to the lack of single men, and the reason why there are no single men is because they have every obstacle put in their way to joining. If its not sky high fees, it's maximum numbers, or its no new members at weekends.

I know couples aren't complaining because clubs are aimed towards couples, and I suspect that's always been the case. But couples only play with couples, and every night I spend sat at the bar because nobody is playing with me is a night I could spend arranging something on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We went to Cupids on Saturday night and it was packed with couples, I think I saw 3 single men in, ive never seen thar in a club before

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

Sale


"I used to be a member at adam and eves but after my.membership.wanted renewing i thought the times i come here its not really worth it and its the cost of fuel as well they seem dead against single guys "

Adam and eves is my local and most if the time I been I been in a cpl but as a single male most I have paid to get in was £40 but that was a party night most of the time its £30

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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

We normally go to clubs on couples only nights, but on the occasions we've went to mixed nights over the last 6 months we've noticed the clubs were nearly all couples, with very few single guys.

J & S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

single male going to clubs do meed to be controlled i agree on that

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By *ucy and CarlCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Try pleasures in Kent on a Friday night. No membership fee just entrance fee of £40.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable

Good idea.

I think the single male rates are extortionate and disgusting. Always funny how couples think it's fine. Could it be because they aren't affected?

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No its fine because they get easily fed up of hordes of guys running around with a sense of entitlement. if a club was over run with single guys there would be few couples and even fewer single girls.

Bottom line no females no swinging for straight guys.

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By *irtyAdi73 OP   Man
over a year ago

Sale


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable

Good idea.

I think the single male rates are extortionate and disgusting. Always funny how couples think it's fine. Could it be because they aren't affected?

No its fine because they get easily fed up of hordes of guys running around with a sense of entitlement. if a club was over run with single guys there would be few couples and even fewer single girls.

Bottom line no females no swinging for straight guys. "

So that give the clubs the right to try rip us off

The your only coming once from a 100ilws away to attend a bday party held by people for £100 the other way

Wen I called and asked how much would it be if I turned up with a woman £25 no membership

Totally fucked up my planned wknd all because of small minded money grabbing scum sorry that how I see it and I'm so very pissed off

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By *ove bi guysWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable

Good idea.

I think the single male rates are extortionate and disgusting. Always funny how couples think it's fine. Could it be because they aren't affected?

No its fine because they get easily fed up of hordes of guys running around with a sense of entitlement. if a club was over run with single guys there would be few couples and even fewer single girls.

Bottom line no females no swinging for straight guys.

So that give the clubs the right to try rip us off

The your only coming once from a 100ilws away to attend a bday party held by people for £100 the other way

Wen I called and asked how much would it be if I turned up with a woman £25 no membership

Totally fucked up my planned wknd all because of small minded money grabbing scum sorry that how I see it and I'm so very pissed off "

Well you didn't plan it very well if you didn't make enquiries before now.

If your meeting a group of friends why didn't someone look into single guy access before ?

On the plus side least you know before you travelled

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a membership fee to join as a couple as well. Maybe you misunderstood that part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps your friend who's birthday it is should of done their homework, and found out how much it would cost people before they were invited!

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Is there not a single lady going to the party you could go in with?

I think there are two issues here, high entry prices for single men and membership for people from out of town.

I't's about time clubs came up with some sort of affiliate membership scheme.

the higher entrance costs for men are justified IMO to keep the numbers balanced, it's the easiest way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a membership fee to join as a couple as well. Maybe you misunderstood that part."

I have several cpls memberships plus single fems memberships for Chams and i havnt paid for any membership !

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By *lthomasMan
over a year ago

Wolves


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable

Good idea.

I think the single male rates are extortionate and disgusting. Always funny how couples think it's fine. Could it be because they aren't affected?

No its fine because they get easily fed up of hordes of guys running around with a sense of entitlement. if a club was over run with single guys there would be few couples and even fewer single girls.

Bottom line no females no swinging for straight guys. "

Many valid point here, but this is probably the most true. It's supply & demand. Chams s a very good, very busy club so as much as it seems expensive, especially for one night they can charge it as they have a line of guys wanting to go.

As Seaside says, no female - no swing & couples do get pissed off by single guys who go expecting the shag because they've paid to get in. Clubs are social as well as sexual, but there not brothels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a membership fee to join as a couple as well. Maybe you misunderstood that part.

I have several cpls memberships plus single fems memberships for Chams and i havnt paid for any membership !"

I'm not sure I understand the sentence? Why would you have more than one membership to chams?

The one in darlaston charges membership for couples.

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By *MFC PartiesWoman
over a year ago

Here, There & Everywhere


"The people having a party are not members the picked chams coz it half way

I tried to explain to the club but they were not having it plus the is no guarantee I'll even be given membership I can get there too early as I have work so won't be able to set off from manchester till after 3 so I won't get to walsall till after 7 "

Have you asked your friends to contact the club??

Depending on how many people they are bringing to help them celebrate their Birthday, they maybe in a good bargaining position ...

I totally appreciate that your only bug bear is the membership costs as that really does increase anyone's first visit to a club

Without doing some self promotion, thats part of the beauty of the BMFC - our members have the opportunity to try out all of the venues that i hire (on a BMFC night) without having to pay for membership ...

So many of our guests use this opportunity as a venue 'try before you buy' ...

So, i would imagine your friends will be in a better position to get help, especially if they are bringing in quite a few people ...

If its just you and them, and you're meeting half way for a 'Birthday meet' then maybe a cheaper option would be to book a hotel in the area instead ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest it's just pure business supply and demand, and it seems to me tht chams business plan works it a great club an if you don't like it don't go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

the current system works, and it doesnt deter single men as clubs have waiting lists of single men waiting to join.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"This ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

the current system works, and it doesnt deter single men as clubs have waiting lists of single men waiting to join."

The one thing creeping into swinging more at the clubs I go to and from other single guys is the "sense of entitlement" thing...

in which some wont go because it "a lot of money not to be guarenteed 'action' (I really really hate that word in a swinging context)"....

or the case of "I've paid my money I am owed some...." and when that doesn't happen first thing they do is blame the club.....

in some clubs the biggest obsticle for single guys... is other single guys not "getting it" ... it can become preditory and pack like and to be honest thats not fun, thats intimidating!!!

again.. the nice ones in clubs do stand out, I am not sure when men, who are adult enough to be on here all suddenly need handholders and go mute in clubs.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In just glad i don't bother going to clubs...if they don't want single blokes...their loss.plenty of other places!!????

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"In just glad i don't bother going to clubs...if they don't want single blokes...their loss.plenty of other places!!????"

but thats the thing.... there are enough guys going to clubs who are having fun and opening other avenues for themselves that the attitude above isn't missed....

its not their loss if you were never there and never going to go.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In just glad i don't bother going to clubs...if they don't want single blokes...their loss.plenty of other places!!????"

Nowhere is it stated that single guys are not wanted at clubs! Of course they won't be welcome on couples and single female nights, but on nights that they are admited, they are more than welcome.

The thing is that a lot of clubs, such as Chams already have loads of single male members that are willing to pay the membership and of course the entrance on the night price. They also have a waiting list of single guys waiting to become members, in that case, why would it make good sense to reduce either price?

Other clubs have lower membership charges or no membership charges for single guys. Just a case of taking a look round and deciding which club you want to spend your momey in, if you don't want to spend your money in any club, then it doesn't really matter one way or another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In just glad i don't bother going to clubs...if they don't want single blokes...their loss.plenty of other places!!????"

its nothing to do with not wanting single men, there are plenty that do go, and mostly thats who we look for, and clubs arent losing out if you dont want to go as they have waiting lists of single guys wanting membership, seen as you havent been to a club id suggest its you missing out, as clubs are a great place to meet people get yourself known and get verified also if you take the right attitude you may get to play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In just glad i don't bother going to clubs...if they don't want single blokes...their loss.plenty of other places!!????

but thats the thing.... there are enough guys going to clubs who are having fun and opening other avenues for themselves that the attitude above isn't missed....

its not their loss if you were never there and never going to go.......

"
same veiw i have _abio, most single blokes on here complain to the worlds end about how clubs dont work for them or the prices are too high ect, ive met some of my close friends in clubs and been more than successful as like you say i dont go expecting things to happen and after youve been a few times people realise that aswell and alot more doors open for you. Alot of singles and couples prefer single guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people are saying that a guy that has to pay £100 to get into a club might have a feeling that he's 'owed something' for his money... I wonder if that would be an issue if it only cost him £10 to get in?

I bet the single blokes would be a heck of a lot happier and relaxed if they weren't charged ridiculous amounts of money to get in!!

Saying that they charge so much to control numbers is ridiculous. I've read that lots of clubs have limits on how many guys they let in. So why can't they all do that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people are saying that a guy that has to pay £100 to get into a club might have a feeling that he's 'owed something' for his money... I wonder if that would be an issue if it only cost him £10 to get in?

I bet the single blokes would be a heck of a lot happier and relaxed if they weren't charged ridiculous amounts of money to get in!!

Saying that they charge so much to control numbers is ridiculous. I've read that lots of clubs have limits on how many guys they let in. So why can't they all do that?"

Why would they charge less when more people are willing to pay than what they currently let in now

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"So that give the clubs the right to try rip us off

The your only coming once from a 100ilws away to attend a bday party held by people for £100 the other way

Wen I called and asked how much would it be if I turned up with a woman £25 no membership

Totally fucked up my planned wknd all because of small minded money grabbing scum sorry that how I see it and I'm so very pissed off "

Give up on it...you're not going to win. As you will have read, there is a Chameleons Fan Club on this forum, so Chams will always be in the right and you will always be in the wrong.

Secondly, from Chams point of view, if they lose your custom, there's the notorious "waiting list" that they can pick from. What have they got to lose?

Just be glad that you didn't make the journey before being told about the waiting list! (it's happened to others!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So that give the clubs the right to try rip us off

The your only coming once from a 100ilws away to attend a bday party held by people for £100 the other way

Wen I called and asked how much would it be if I turned up with a woman £25 no membership

Totally fucked up my planned wknd all because of small minded money grabbing scum sorry that how I see it and I'm so very pissed off

Give up on it...you're not going to win. As you will have read, there is a Chameleons Fan Club on this forum, so Chams will always be in the right and you will always be in the wrong.

Secondly, from Chams point of view, if they lose your custom, there's the notorious "waiting list" that they can pick from. What have they got to lose?

Just be glad that you didn't make the journey before being told about the waiting list! (it's happened to others!)"

Well I for one am not any part of a Chams Fan Club, but have stated the fact that Chams are a busy club and their way of charging members works for them as they are busy most of the time, so unless people vote with their feet and wallets and stop going, they will continue to charge the way that they are.

As I've also said, plenty of other clubs have lower or no membership fees for single men, some have even higher charges. All you have to do is look at websites of clubs, ring or email if in doubt and pay to go to clubs that you think are worthwhile.

If you think they're too expensive don't go. If enough people don't go, then a club will suffer financhially and then change it pricing policy, as long as people are prepared to pay what's asked of them, clubs will continue to charge it, why shouldn't they, they're running a buisness at the end of the day, not a charity foer single guys that want clubs to end up full of nothing but single guys and the odd greedy girl.

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby

I understand the reasoning for limiting the number of single men in these clubs, no one wants to visit a club full of single guys on the prowl not even us single men! What do I do not understand is the rip off pricing that is totally unfair and quite possibly illegal. If only someone had the cash to challenge it legally. There is a very simple way to limit single guys that is fool proof, cheap and simple to manage. The club sets a limit on the number of single men and those wishing to attend book in advance once the limit is reached the list for the day/evening is closed. The limit can be adjusted for 'events' such as greedy girl nights, bi nights etc but it is simple for all to understand. If I had the money I'd open a club and it would be run along very fair lines.

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County


"I was going to go Chameleons for a birthday party But was informed by the club that as I'm a single guy I would have to pay £70 membership then if I did get membership it would be a further £30 entrance fee I explained that I was coming to attend a birthday party and as I live in manchester repeated visits would not be likely and did they have a 1 time victors price like many clubs that still demand single males have Is it me or does any1 else think this is totally out of order"

I totally agree. I was told about the club by a friend about 2 years ago. I actually went there to join, but was told on the door membership was full. Needless to say, I haven't and won't be going there again. I must say that I have been frequenting Xotix and New Paradise which are more local and much friendlier places.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clubs are ran on a fair basis, thats why they have been running smoothly for so long, the thing is the figures been quoted include a once a year membership fee which we all pay, and the entry price structure comes down to simple supply and demand and it cant be that bad when clubs have waiting lists to join.

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby

Everything is fair if you are not on the receiving end... How on earth is fair or justifiable to charge extra because of gender. It was colour or religion or race would that still be fair!

Oh and anyone just turning up for anything with first contacting the venue is a bit daft imo. Would you go to a music gig without a ticket and just hope you can get in on the night!

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By *inktherapyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Membership fees on firt visits are a right pain in my view

Difference in entrance fees is down to what the market will pay/ supply and demand. Can't see it ever changing, tbh.

We like clubs for single guys - we rarely play with couples because that's not our 'thing'

We generally like Chams, although the single guys do seem in the main to be at the older end of the scale more and more so lately. We also found last week that there was quite an attitude of 'entitlement' from the guys (including not taking repeated 'no thanks' for an answer), which is a real shame. Therefore we didn't play except for a short while in glory holes and then later with each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With membership at these clubs, do you have a say to anything? Just wondering, as its the members who make it work, why shouldnt they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everything is fair if you are not on the receiving end... How on earth is fair or justifiable to charge extra because of gender. It was colour or religion or race would that still be fair!

Oh and anyone just turning up for anything with first contacting the venue is a bit daft imo. Would you go to a music gig without a ticket and just hope you can get in on the night! "

look at the world theres examples all over the place, why do people that choose not to work (notice i said choose as i agree with genuine jobseekers getting help) get free prescriptions and dental care and because i choose to work i have to pay, why is a bus fare different depending on your age, why is the cost to get into a football match different depending on age and ability, you all sit and watch the same match, these are some examples of how busineses are run and thats the way of life these days, if you dont like the way a business runs then its your choice not to go, no one is forcing you to go and pay the fees, but why bleat on trying to spoil it for people that do want to go and will/do pay the membership and entry fees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's basic economics.

Principles of supply and demand.

There's a high supply of single men, a low demand for them so to create a balance they charge more therefore reducing supply. The fact that other clubs charge more or less is not relevant. It's a business and if you don't like it, don't go.

When I was single I went without worrying if I was going to have sex. Chatted to people and sometimes had sex with them. Simple really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is sex in Chams better than sex in clubs with more reasonable pricing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is sex in Chams better than sex in clubs with more reasonable pricing?

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Nope but in my opinion it's a nicer club

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

Pick another club..if people don't go..they WILL change their prices!

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By *edmaneMan
over a year ago

Sunderland

This just seems to be an age old argument, a business will never make everything equal, they'll do whatever it takes to make the most money.

Ways to make entrance fees fairer would be make single male / female equal

Ways to deter the tide of singles ( male or otherwise) would be to set a limit for the number that can enter per couple on a reservation or first come first serve basis.

But we all know that's never going to happen no matter how outraged singles are. Maybe if all the regulars ( couples or otherwise) signed a petition to make things equal it might help but even then I doubt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people are saying that a guy that has to pay £100 to get into a club might have a feeling that he's 'owed something' for his money... I wonder if that would be an issue if it only cost him £10 to get in?

I bet the single blokes would be a heck of a lot happier and relaxed if they weren't charged ridiculous amounts of money to get in!!

Saying that they charge so much to control numbers is ridiculous. I've read that lots of clubs have limits on how many guys they let in. So why can't they all do that?

Why would they charge less when more people are willing to pay than what they currently let in now "

Yes I agree but I think its the excuses they come up with to charge them high fees that get their back up. Maybe clubs should be honest and just say its not to do with number control but they charge it because they can and some men will pay it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey I do t want it to be equal, in happy getting In free or at a very cheap price thanks!

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By *efreeMan
over a year ago

North Staffs

And no doubt this thread will be closed by the moderators as they don't like upsetting the club owners!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Lodge offers membership, if you want it! It is not compulsory. For people travelling out of area it is not beneficial, they are not going to reap the benefits of membership. Membership stops us from travelling to other clubs as we don't get the time off to use them regularly. It can work out to be a very expensive night out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Membership fees on firt visits are a right pain in my view

Difference in entrance fees is down to what the market will pay/ supply and demand. Can't see it ever changing, tbh.

We like clubs for single guys - we rarely play with couples because that's not our 'thing'

We generally like Chams, although the single guys do seem in the main to be at the older end of the scale more and more so lately. We also found last week that there was quite an attitude of 'entitlement' from the guys (including not taking repeated 'no thanks' for an answer), which is a real shame. Therefore we didn't play except for a short while in glory holes and then later with each other"

I wonder if its because older people have more disposable income?

Have been wondering where the younger singles go? Come on guys I have to find someone to pique the OH's interest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder if its because older people have more disposable income?

Have been wondering where the younger singles go? Come on guys I have to find someone to pique the OH's interest. "

I'd guess the younger singles are out doing things younger singles do - normal clubbing, pubs or private parties/home meets. Those that don't have kids? The world is their oyster! And (and this is just an opinion! Don't shoot me!) I'd guess that the younger element on here possibly don't struggle to get 1-2-1 meets or meets with couples. There's still a mentality out there that swingers clubs are where older couples go once the kids are old enough to be left at home or have moved out. And having been to many a club - it's still evident that generally the age bracket of the clientele is 40+, possibly deterring the younger crowd and creating a perpetual circle that's hard to break!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure the "clubs" will ever change really, they are only interested in couples and females..."
Not me - I'm interested in single guys

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By *istress-MazikeenWoman
over a year ago

bolton


"I understand the reasoning for limiting the number of single men in these clubs, no one wants to visit a club full of single guys on the prowl not even us single men! What do I do not understand is the rip off pricing that is totally unfair and quite possibly illegal. If only someone had the cash to challenge it legally. There is a very simple way to limit single guys that is fool proof, cheap and simple to manage. The club sets a limit on the number of single men and those wishing to attend book in advance once the limit is reached the list for the day/evening is closed. The limit can be adjusted for 'events' such as greedy girl nights, bi nights etc but it is simple for all to understand. If I had the money I'd open a club and it would be run along very fair lines. "

Townhouse do that already and it works. x

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By *istress-MazikeenWoman
over a year ago

bolton


"I wonder if its because older people have more disposable income?

Have been wondering where the younger singles go? Come on guys I have to find someone to pique the OH's interest.

I'd guess the younger singles are out doing things younger singles do - normal clubbing, pubs or private parties/home meets. Those that don't have kids? The world is their oyster! And (and this is just an opinion! Don't shoot me!) I'd guess that the younger element on here possibly don't struggle to get 1-2-1 meets or meets with couples. There's still a mentality out there that swingers clubs are where older couples go once the kids are old enough to be left at home or have moved out. And having been to many a club - it's still evident that generally the age bracket of the clientele is 40+, possibly deterring the younger crowd and creating a perpetual circle that's hard to break!"

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


" having been to many a club - it's still evident that generally the age bracket of the clientele is 40+, possibly deterring the younger crowd and creating a perpetual circle that's hard to break!"

Yet there are many many young men on here who talk about wanting to meet older women. It's a shame they are given so many obstacles by clubs for doing so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" having been to many a club - it's still evident that generally the age bracket of the clientele is 40+, possibly deterring the younger crowd and creating a perpetual circle that's hard to break!

Yet there are many many young men on here who talk about wanting to meet older women. It's a shame they are given so many obstacles by clubs for doing so."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it might be worth looking at a club that doesn't reqire membership fee but good verifications for males if you get in quick enough to get on the list, for a night out! not every club requires membership just good behaiviour to enjoy a night out! xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe suggest to your friends xtasia in west brom?? Its not far from chams xx

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


" having been to many a club - it's still evident that generally the age bracket of the clientele is 40+, possibly deterring the younger crowd and creating a perpetual circle that's hard to break!

Yet there are many many young men on here who talk about wanting to meet older women. It's a shame they are given so many obstacles by clubs for doing so."

obsticles such as.............

other than age restrictions is there one???

what you are talking about is a perceived obsticle... it they would actually "go" to clubs (yes and be adult enough not to need a handholder) they would find that to be completely different...

again for a lot of guys it is a case of "well i am not prepared to pay all that money if there is no guarentee of (action... i hate word!).....

one of the differences between me at 25 and me now is the ability to budget my money better....

if i go somewhere I save up... you could call it real life and having to find mortgage money....

if i want to do something and it costs, well... i have to budget....

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By *am8312Man
over a year ago

Brighton

exactly guys - vote with your feet and shun the clubs - post some ads and invite a few people round

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


" having been to many a club - it's still evident that generally the age bracket of the clientele is 40+, possibly deterring the younger crowd and creating a perpetual circle that's hard to break!

Yet there are many many young men on here who talk about wanting to meet older women. It's a shame they are given so many obstacles by clubs for doing so.

obsticles such as.............

other than age restrictions is there one???

what you are talking about is a perceived obsticle... it they would actually "go" to clubs (yes and be adult enough not to need a handholder) they would find that to be completely different...

again for a lot of guys it is a case of "well i am not prepared to pay all that money if there is no guarentee of (action... i hate word!).....

one of the differences between me at 25 and me now is the ability to budget my money better....

if i go somewhere I save up... you could call it real life and having to find mortgage money....

if i want to do something and it costs, well... i have to budget....

"

I was responding to Obi's point about younger people not wanting to go to clubs because they are perceived to be for the older generation by pointing out that there are many young people on here who do want to meet older people. I didn't mention money at any point.

The main obstacle is money, yes. But there are also waiting lists, maximum numbers of single men allowed, with the bloke having to turn up before he finds out whether he can get in or not, plus the fact that most clubs insist on midweek attendance before they can go on a weekend, or even flat out refusing single men joining on a weekend evening.

I am sure a single bloke already well in at his local club would prefer as few other single men as possible to prevent competition, but for us single women who don't play with couples, the lack of single men can be trying to put it mildly. If we are the ones that the clubs are trying to attract then we need someone to play with, else we may as well just stay at home.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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The main obstacle is money, yes. But there are also waiting lists, maximum numbers of single men allowed, with the bloke having to turn up before he finds out whether he can get in or not, plus the fact that most clubs insist on midweek attendance before they can go on a weekend, or even flat out refusing single men joining on a weekend evening."

but that would apply to any single man regardless of what age they were... and there would have probably have been single men who went thru that before them.... and there will be single men who will go thru that after them....


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I am sure a single bloke already well in at his local club would prefer as few other single men as possible to prevent competition, but for us single women who don't play with couples, the lack of single men can be trying to put it mildly. If we are the ones that the clubs are trying to attract then we need someone to play with, else we may as well just stay at home."

the guys who "get it" will understand it is not about competition (its another of those words i hate with regards to swinging).... and if guys went in with that mindset they probably wouldn't last very long in any club setting......

if it was ever about competition on a night i went to a swinging club I would walk straight out.... and to be honest that is probably where a lot of the predetory hunting in packs stuff comes from, people think they have to be there as soon as to play...

different nights in most clubs will tend to be aimed at different people, and different people will be attracted to them...

I personally don't like greedy girl nights,the atmos in them isnt something i am comfy with so decided they aren't for me... tried them.. moved on... short of asking clubs to change which nights certain events take place you are never going to please anyone...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why not charge half the membership on the first visit plus admission and if you like the club scene it would encourage you to go back rather than pay all up front and find that clubs arnt for you and feel fleeced. just my opinion and ithink in the current climate might be more affordable "

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