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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? " Alfie  | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? " Must be a rather select and exclusive car boot sale. I pay £1 to get in. | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? Must be a rather select and exclusive car boot sale. I pay £1 to get in. " Hello stranger! | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? Must be a rather select and exclusive car boot sale. I pay £1 to get in. Hello stranger!" Friday greetings to you both | |||
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"It helps even out the numbers" This. There is a club in Kent that charges £35 entrance regardless if you’re single or a couple. Only been once on an ‘non-invite’ day, seemed to be to many Guys and not enough Ladies and Couples. | |||
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"£35.00 is ok When it gets to £50.00, then travel and drunks with the chance to being stood alone talking to the mirror. For that you get a day at the football or rugby, a laugh with mates beer and a curry. Might even pull at the pub. I'll bow out gracefully. " If you're getting a football match, beer, and a curry for £50 you must be some kind of a magician, or a really shit crack 1 drink wonder. A night at a club is a cheap night in comparison to a night on the lash. You're £50 just for a couple rounds of shots, thats without starting on the beers and spirits. The food alone at the end of the night is never less than £20, and most of the time only picked at 
£50 for a club with a couple of soft drinks and a clear head wins every time!!! | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? " It’s actually unlawful. It contravenes the Equality act 2010. Some people think it’s not illegal because of membership issues. It’s very illegal. The law is very clear on that. The thing is though; do you want possible access to a vagina or not? Ok, well, it’s £50. Ohhh but I don’t want to pay £50! Off you go then. No guy is going to say “Ahhh, well according to the Equality Act 2010, that’s unlawful!”, because there is no point. Complaining won’t fix it, even if it’s taken to court, and generally, people won’t publicise the fact that they’re engaging in taboo activities. Even if the club did get penalised, what would the result be? It would be a fine, a balancing of costs, the unbalancing of ratios, and ultimate death of the club. | |||
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"As a single woman I wouldn't pay £35" Why not? What would you find acceptable? | |||
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"As a single woman I wouldn't pay £35 Why not? What would you find acceptable?" I go to clubs for £10 or maybe £15. I pay up to £35 when I go as a couple. | |||
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"I think men paying more is acceptable as it stops so many guys. However I fear some men may think oh well I have paid x amount so I expect something. " That's mostly why I avoid the gendered pricing events now. I'm not a product. I'm a customer. Everyone paying the same reduces some of the entitlement some people develop 💜 | |||
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"I think men paying more is acceptable as it stops so many guys. However I fear some men may think oh well I have paid x amount so I expect something. " If they are paying a really high price then they probably expect the man/woman ratio to be reasonable. Wonder how much you’d have to charge to get a 50/50 ratio… | |||
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"I prefer to go to events without gendered pricing, it's fairer and you avoid some of the entitlement from people thinking they've paid enough so they are owed sex" You should find that more men will attend too, including men who are unwilling to pay a premium. That’s good news for women, right? (In a way) | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? " The club we go to cost more than £30 for a couple lol and you think they are going to charge that for single guys | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? It’s actually unlawful. It contravenes the Equality act 2010. Some people think it’s not illegal because of membership issues. It’s very illegal. The law is very clear on that. The thing is though; do you want possible access to a vagina or not? Ok, well, it’s £50. Ohhh but I don’t want to pay £50! Off you go then. No guy is going to say “Ahhh, well according to the Equality Act 2010, that’s unlawful!”, because there is no point. Complaining won’t fix it, even if it’s taken to court, and generally, people won’t publicise the fact that they’re engaging in taboo activities. Even if the club did get penalised, what would the result be? It would be a fine, a balancing of costs, the unbalancing of ratios, and ultimate death of the club. " It’s not illigal if the club is a private members club and you will find clubs that have gendered pricing are members clubs | |||
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"I prefer to go to events without gendered pricing, it's fairer and you avoid some of the entitlement from people thinking they've paid enough so they are owed sex You should find that more men will attend too, including men who are unwilling to pay a premium. That’s good news for women, right? (In a way)" Not necessarily so, we would think most women put quality over quantity, I know we certainly do. Making the entry fee cheap for single guys would encourage anyone to wander in after spending most of the time getting tanked up in the pub up the road. I know that you can also get well off guys who can afford the entrance fee acting the pratt too but I think it acts as a filter to some extent, although as we said in an earlier post pre booking would be a better option. | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? It’s actually unlawful. It contravenes the Equality act 2010. Some people think it’s not illegal because of membership issues. It’s very illegal. The law is very clear on that. The thing is though; do you want possible access to a vagina or not? Ok, well, it’s £50. Ohhh but I don’t want to pay £50! Off you go then. No guy is going to say “Ahhh, well according to the Equality Act 2010, that’s unlawful!”, because there is no point. Complaining won’t fix it, even if it’s taken to court, and generally, people won’t publicise the fact that they’re engaging in taboo activities. Even if the club did get penalised, what would the result be? It would be a fine, a balancing of costs, the unbalancing of ratios, and ultimate death of the club. It’s not illigal if the club is a private members club and you will find clubs that have gendered pricing are members clubs " It’s unlawful to charge a different price for the same service - private club or not. Here are some snippets directly from governmental sources; “A private club cannot refuse to invite a person as a guest of the club, or *invite the person on less favourable terms*, such as by imposing special conditions, because of the guest’s protected characteristic.” “Membership terms must be the same for all members, regardless of their protected characteristics. However, a golf club can offer differential rates based on time of day (peak and off-peak, for example). As long as both rates are available to all members regardless of their protected characteristics, this is allowed.” There are a few very small legal provisions, and these must be navigated very carefully. One of them is “providing discount memberships” to encourage participation. Tell me, two non-members turn up. One male and one female, to be lawful, how much should they be charged? What about members? Say a male has purchased a £100 “male subscription”, and a female has paid for a £50 “female subscription”, at the door, what should they both pay? It’s a very nasty business to run and I don’t envy them at all. | |||
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"I prefer to go to events without gendered pricing, it's fairer and you avoid some of the entitlement from people thinking they've paid enough so they are owed sex You should find that more men will attend too, including men who are unwilling to pay a premium. That’s good news for women, right? (In a way) Not necessarily so, we would think most women put quality over quantity, I know we certainly do. Making the entry fee cheap for single guys would encourage anyone to wander in after spending most of the time getting tanked up in the pub up the road. I know that you can also get well off guys who can afford the entrance fee acting the pratt too but I think it acts as a filter to some extent, although as we said in an earlier post pre booking would be a better option. " I agree. | |||
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"And now got somewhere charging men more depending on age with 3 tiers of pricing. I doubt that can be legal. It's not even a membership club. " I like going to clubs. I’ve had great times there, some of them have been fantastic with me. I wish them the best of successes. I’m just mindful that it’s a troublesome business to run. | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? " Generally prices are set to encourage more ladies in the club, and to "control" the quantity of single guys. Women often say that too many single guys in a club can lead to an unpleasant/intimidating atmosphere for them... and the more guys there are, the less chance for any of them to get any interaction. If there are no women there, then there will be no blokes there either, so the club won't exist. Cal | |||
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"I prefer to go to events without gendered pricing, it's fairer and you avoid some of the entitlement from people thinking they've paid enough so they are owed sex You should find that more men will attend too, including men who are unwilling to pay a premium. That’s good news for women, right? (In a way) Not necessarily so, we would think most women put quality over quantity, I know we certainly do. Making the entry fee cheap for single guys would encourage anyone to wander in after spending most of the time getting tanked up in the pub up the road. I know that you can also get well off guys who can afford the entrance fee acting the pratt too but I think it acts as a filter to some extent, although as we said in an earlier post pre booking would be a better option. " Going back a few years there were venues with: a) reasonable entry prices b) no pre-booking set-ups c) excellent, vigilant security Seemed to work pretty well if one recalls... | |||
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"I prefer to go to events without gendered pricing, it's fairer and you avoid some of the entitlement from people thinking they've paid enough so they are owed sex You should find that more men will attend too, including men who are unwilling to pay a premium. That’s good news for women, right? (In a way) Not necessarily so, we would think most women put quality over quantity, I know we certainly do. Making the entry fee cheap for single guys would encourage anyone to wander in after spending most of the time getting tanked up in the pub up the road. I know that you can also get well off guys who can afford the entrance fee acting the pratt too but I think it acts as a filter to some extent, although as we said in an earlier post pre booking would be a better option. " There's also probably a difference between cheap and reasonable. I've heard that a fair few clubs might struggle without single men attending certain events... | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? Generally prices are set to encourage more ladies in the club, and to "control" the quantity of single guys. Women often say that too many single guys in a club can lead to an unpleasant/intimidating atmosphere for them... and the more guys there are, the less chance for any of them to get any interaction. If there are no women there, then there will be no blokes there either, so the club won't exist. Cal" The potential flipside is that without any single guys, the economics wouldn't equate - club numbers are definitely not at the level of the late 90s to early 2010s... | |||
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"Honest opinions: Reasonable entrance fees (£20-30) for single men v £50+ What's it all about? The club we go to cost more than £30 for a couple lol and you think they are going to charge that for single guys" That isn't my point - I queried as to whether £50 + is reasonable or not for single males. I have made no reference to entrance prices for couples. Regards, SF | |||
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"I think men paying more is acceptable as it stops so many guys. However I fear some men may think oh well I have paid x amount so I expect something. " I recall clubs (and some do exist) where entrance pricing is reasonable, security is strong and numbers are respectable. They also tend to be pay at the door. Not saying it's always the best way; just that can/does work where organisation and planning are mainstays... | |||
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"I think men paying more is acceptable as it stops so many guys. However I fear some men may think oh well I have paid x amount so I expect something. That's mostly why I avoid the gendered pricing events now. I'm not a product. I'm a customer. Everyone paying the same reduces some of the entitlement some people develop 💜" A brilliant, germane point. Makes a ton of sense. To me, on reflection it seems that the club scene worked really well when I first got involved in the scene. It all seemed a lot less commercially driven. Rose tinted perhaps, but there appeared to be a pleasant equilibrium re numbers, pricing etc. Not to mention a much more down-to-earth feel to the club scene. Certain clubs have managed to maintained this, however.... | |||
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