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"I don't see why people should be verified to be allowed to go, as that's tarring the decent well behaved single guys with same brush as the un-behaved ones. My suggestion would be a member of staff in dogging area, playrooms area, dance floor area and lounge area, keeping an eye on the very small minority that spoilt thing. (" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We are also members and regular visitors to Xtasia and attended the free night on Sunday. We have to admit that the original idea was a great one and it did work at well to a point, but like everything in life it is much easier to be wise after the event, We feel that some of the bad points already highlighted in the previous post’s are accurate, yes in hind sight there were perhaps too many people in the club, and indeed some of the single guys needed a lesson in manners for sure but on the whole it went down ok, it has to be said that we wouldn’t go to another one as we feel that inviting non member single guys was perhaps a mistake, in the swinging world I think everyone would agree that couples, in the main, will behave in a respectable manner but if you get a group of single guys together who don’t know how to behave in such circumstances, throw in a few drinks and a sexy environment, then who knows what may have happened. We are not anti single guys, as our profile shows we do meet a lot of single men without any issue’s, and it has to be said that in all of the time’s we have visited Xtasia we have never had a problem with any of the single members of the club, we would go as far as to say that most if not all of them are genuine respectful guys, and let’s be honest if they were anything other than that then ime sure Paul and Flirt would have no hesitation in revoking their membership. In conclusion we think Sunday night may have been better if the invitation to the single guys was for members only, and perhaps the number of people should be cut to perhaps 350. We shall continue to go to the club for no other reason that it is a great place and we commend both Paul and Flirt for their continued efforts in getting the club back to its former glory " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We thought the staff were brilliant for our first time. We were both nervous but as soon as we walked in the staff made us feel at ease. We didnt enjoy the atmosphere created by some certain individuals who were acting immaturely. We were thinking about playing in the club together but they changed the mood for us. Apart from that we were quite happy although we too missed out on the free membership offer :/ lol x " On one of the other Xtasia threads, the owners have stated that if you contact them and you were on the FFFF guest list they will still allow you to have the offer that was there on the night, if thats of any help to you. | |||
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"Think to stop opportunistic members of FAB getting into the club you need to be a member on fAB for at least 12 months..." Thats not going to guarantee they're well behaved though. | |||
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"Think to stop opportunistic members of FAB getting into the club you need to be a member on fAB for at least 12 months... Thats not going to guarantee they're well behaved though." To be honest nothing is going to guarantee they are going to be well behaved. You could for instance charge £100 for each single male and insist they have been on FAB for 12 months with 3 verifications and they may still misbehave. To me, if Xtasia or for that matter any other club held a similar free event, then I would say that the single male admission criteria would be as suggested elsewhere of being a FAB member with 3 veri's or a FAB and a mamber of that club too. The key though would be having sufficient staff patrolling the club because it isn't a "normal" night and those staff removing people for misbehaviour, ie if a lady is on a bed with heels on, thus potentially damaging the bed, then a warning might be suffice, if a guy is climbing a wall to look over the top then removal from the club might be more appropriate. | |||
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"Think to stop opportunistic members of FAB getting into the club you need to be a member on fAB for at least 12 months... Thats not going to guarantee they're well behaved though." Totaly agree with you, it is a difficult one to police. I'm sure Paul and Flirt will sort something out but it is a shame for the 'good guys'. I for one was disgusted with some guys mainly of asian ethnicity hunting in packs and looking at the women as if they were dirt. | |||
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" ie if a lady is on a bed with heels on, thus potentially damaging the bed, then a warning might be suffice, if a guy is climbing a wall to look over the top then removal from the club might be more appropriate." lol...sorry, guys shoes are flat and rarely do damage...and all he's doing is shortcutting the mirrors. The ladies heels if they go through ruin a £100 pvc cover, and there are signs everywhere asking them not to do it.....to us, you have these two the wrong way round!! ![]() ![]() | |||
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" I for one was disgusted with some guys mainly of asian ethnicity hunting in packs and looking at the women as if they were dirt." Again, we disagree it was one ethnicity, as we saw many smaller groups throughout the night, touring for fun. There is something to be said for not allowing "groups or teams" in, as they tend to cluster, but again, a very difficult one to enforce. They also often provide great entertainment, as witnessed early on in the camera room, so swings and roundabouts again. | |||
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"Just because some single guys are young do they all get tarred with the same brush ..... Come on guys we all started somewhere ! X" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think that the verified single member idea is sound and workable. OK, non-verified members may be tarred with the same brush as the hoodlums who were there last time, but what other choice is there after the last experience? It's either verifications or a minimum age. I can see a lot of people not wanting to return to another "do" if there are no measures at all in place. As for starting somewhere. Yes, a lot of people have had to learn by their mistakes. A lot of people made some mistakes at the FFFF and this will be a lesson that they too will have to learn from. How about, as an alternative, the number of guys being limited to a fixed figure ("x"), and as a reward for "good behaviour" and "services rendered" on Fab, why not offer those places to the "x" number with the most number of verifications?" I disagree, verified single males can be hoodlums too To be honest the single male problem was exaggerated in my belief, only a very few that was pestering and climbing walls, this could easily have been controlled and stopped with higher staff presence, one in playrooms at all times, one in each social area at all times, asking packs of guys to split up if necessary and leave if they refused. I only had issued with two asian guys, and they soon stopped when they heard verbal from my mouth. I don't see why every single male should be tarred and unable to come to such a future event, over a very small minority of idiots that were there. If _tasia were to run the function again, I would suggest more staff, or asking long time regulars to become marshall's for the night, offering them a free night in the club at a time they choose for helping out. | |||
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"We went to the social at Xtasia over the bank holiday, we are regulars there and always feel relaxed. There were definitely far too many people in there, some of them didnt look old enough to be in there, especially the guys, like little boys some of em! The thing we found most annoying was the way some of them carried on, we were in the glory hole and got totally pissed off with guys shining lights inside and running round shouting, put my wife off completely!! Were these people actually members of the club or fab or did they just wander in off the streets? Thats always a danger i guess when summat is free, we would rather it had been a charge on the door and it kept to a sensible number, Im sure half the guys in there had never been vetted, as I say, we are regulars at the club, and always will be, but the night was ruined by total nobheads thinking the whole thing was a big joke and a free for all as far as it came to groping women as they walked past...fucking idiots!!" Once again the singke guys get slatted because if a few mindless fuckwitts..i had a great time and sat with some great people most of the night..so i think it totally unfair that the good ones should suffer because of the moorons | |||
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"Hell why not just ban us singles altogether and be done with it?????" I'm a single girl, looking to meet males, most (99%) are genuine and respectable, whether verified or not, I totally disagree that males shouldn't be allowed, or only allowed if verified, it's hard for guys to get verified which is one reason they goto clubs, to meet, chat and get verified, if that's taken away from them then I may as well pack up my profile now | |||
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"Once again the single guys get slatted because if a few mindless fuckwitts...i think it totally unfair that the good ones should suffer because of the moorons" Totally agree...so what do you do to filter out the idiots and keep the good guys on board? This has never been a problem with "regular" Xtasia single male members, just the people off this site who got in on a freebie. If you have any better suggestions than a minimum age or verifications, then I'm sure that it will be well received. I don't think that doing nothing about it is the answer though. | |||
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"Once again the single guys get slatted because if a few mindless fuckwitts...i think it totally unfair that the good ones should suffer because of the moorons Totally agree...so what do you do to filter out the idiots and keep the good guys on board? This has never been a problem with "regular" Xtasia single male members, just the people off this site who got in on a freebie. If you have any better suggestions than a minimum age or verifications, then I'm sure that it will be well received. I don't think that doing nothing about it is the answer though." I think you are going ott. Single guys need to come to clubs to get verified. I think we all no the answer more staff equals less trouble from idiots. There ya go problem solved. | |||
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" I for one was disgusted with some guys mainly of asian ethnicity hunting in packs and looking at the women as if they were dirt. Again, we disagree it was one ethnicity, as we saw many smaller groups throughout the night, touring for fun. There is something to be said for not allowing "groups or teams" in, as they tend to cluster, but again, a very difficult one to enforce. They also often provide great entertainment, as witnessed early on in the camera room, so swings and roundabouts again." I came along with a few members of my group Teamhorseman. We don't and have never done the hunt in pack thing and tend to play solo unless asked for "extra's" In all fairness were simply a group of friends that have known each other for a significant time and are all members and regulars of the club. Guys will always cluster especially when you know each other its no different to a group of people in the smoking area. Yeah there were alot of people in the club but i think the general atmosphere was great didnt see any issues myself but if i had and it had been a single guy like many other regulars i'd probably intervene and direct paul or flirt to the complainant. | |||
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"Just because some single guys are young do they all get tarred with the same brush ..... Come on guys we all started somewhere ! X" Exactly Im 30 and had my first meet at 19(gosh such a long time ago), and have met many people since then. Its not age that makes single guys ignorant or disruptive in relation to the club atmosphere its experience. I think _tasia do well with single guys and ive seen them in the past ask people to leave discreetly if they've sensed there could be issues with the individual. Unfortunately i have to say its been the more mature man on the occassions i've witnessed that and the odd inexperienced couple. I for one look young and if thats a crime then please pass me by as you cant win them all. Alot of people ive met that consider themselves experienced have under 4 years swinging experience so not as experienced as they may believe and thats proven when we exchange tails lol On the whole i think everyone deserves an opportunity experience the club atmosphere. So hopefully us single guys will still get the chance. I'd say a minimum of 3 varifications for a single guy is fair as to get just one some may find impossible. | |||
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" I for one was disgusted with some guys mainly of asian ethnicity hunting in packs and looking at the women as if they were dirt. Again, we disagree it was one ethnicity, as we saw many smaller groups throughout the night, touring for fun. There is something to be said for not allowing "groups or teams" in, as they tend to cluster, but again, a very difficult one to enforce. They also often provide great entertainment, as witnessed early on in the camera room, so swings and roundabouts again." Glad you enjoyed the show, it's fastly becoming my favourite room. Hope my cheques in the post lol ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think that the verified single member idea is sound and workable. OK, non-verified members may be tarred with the same brush as the hoodlums who were there last time, but what other choice is there after the last experience? It's either verifications or a minimum age. I can see a lot of people not wanting to return to another "do" if there are no measures at all in place. As for starting somewhere. Yes, a lot of people have had to learn by their mistakes. A lot of people made some mistakes at the FFFF and this will be a lesson that they too will have to learn from. How about, as an alternative, the number of guys being limited to a fixed figure ("x"), and as a reward for "good behaviour" and "services rendered" on Fab, why not offer those places to the "x" number with the most number of verifications? I disagree, verified single males can be hoodlums too To be honest the single male problem was exaggerated in my belief, only a very few that was pestering and climbing walls, this could easily have been controlled and stopped with higher staff presence, one in playrooms at all times, one in each social area at all times, asking packs of guys to split up if necessary and leave if they refused. I only had issued with two asian guys, and they soon stopped when they heard verbal from my mouth. I don't see why every single male should be tarred and unable to come to such a future event, over a very small minority of idiots that were there. If _tasia were to run the function again, I would suggest more staff, or asking long time regulars to become marshall's for the night, offering them a free night in the club at a time they choose for helping out." I totally agree with this from Dirtyeyes. The thing to remember about this event was it was an Xtasia organised event inviting members of FAB to attend for free. Interestingly, Xtasia are hosting a party for another web site this Sunday evening which has been organised by the website. The differences already are that every person whom has been invited has recieved a mail stating whats expected in terms of behaviour and club rules prior to anyone turning up, plus an indication of the mix of people attending too. Thus it seems that lessons learnt at the FFFF are already being implemented and it'll be interesting to see if there is more staff keeping a discreet eye on things to ensure that things don't get out of hand. I've said previously that I thought this FFFF party was a brave thing to embark on by the club, and that by and large it was pretty successful, but as with anything new lessons get learnt and if things are tweaked for future events rather than radically changed it should mean that it's even more successfull. | |||
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"One other thing to remember is that it was representation of fabs and not a representation of _tasia as the 2 are totally different things we never have this problem on a normal club night." ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"One other thing to remember is that it was representation of fabs and not a representation of _tasia as the 2 are totally different things we never have this problem on a normal club night." absolutely, would be interesting to look through the profiles of the single guys who went (if that's where people thought the issues were coming from) ![]() | |||
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"Credit to Xtasia for trying something diffrent I had a good night and spoke to a few new people while there. I also went to another social they did in January for single guys no behaviour complaints that night were made if I remember rightly. " The club is definately going from strength to strength. I went to that single guy event and yeah it was cool, again credit to them for trying something different. | |||
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"One other thing to remember is that it was representation of fabs and not a representation of _tasia as the 2 are totally different things we never have this problem on a normal club night. absolutely, would be interesting to look through the profiles of the single guys who went (if that's where people thought the issues were coming from) ![]() Well the list is still on the original thread - so go take a peek!! ![]() | |||
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"One other thing to remember is that it was representation of fabs and not a representation of _tasia as the 2 are totally different things we never have this problem on a normal club night. absolutely, would be interesting to look through the profiles of the single guys who went (if that's where people thought the issues were coming from) ![]() ![]() Good point ![]() | |||
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