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"I really think it should be a flat fee for everyone with stricter rules.x" And whats likely to happen is that when they charge more for females and couples the females and couples will stop coming and it will just be single men whinging that there are no females and couples. Unfortunately there's no upside for that sort of thing. | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x" And the person employed to conduct extensive interviews and compile stricter rules would need to be paid a wage, thus increasing membership fee further to pay the wages? Disability is, with all due respect, irrelevant. There are unemployed people that go, people on low incomes etc, it's the same with everything in life, if you can't afford it, you don't do it. | |||
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"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x " So, the only way you can enjoy yourself is to go to swinging clubs in the vain hope of getting a shag? Do you think everyone on here goes to swinging clubs every weekend, every hour they are not working or looking after families? Are you really that deluded? Quit with the 'woe is me' attitude, save a few quid each week like the rest of us. believe it or not,not everyone on FAB is a millionare who lead lavish lifestyles and are able to afford everything they desire. Man up or ship out. ![]() | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x" Life isn't fair, if it was instead of a Suzuki in front of my house there'd be a Bentley on the drive! I think it's unfair that Bentley's have priced me out of their product. Now if it was Thames Water... ![]() | |||
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"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo." lol ![]() | |||
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"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo." Like minds! ![]() | |||
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"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x " What did I do? ![]() | |||
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"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x " There is infusion blackpool no membership required wed or thurs a few clubs do have non members nights | |||
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"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x " please for 1 minute don't think I'm havin a dig at you,as I'm not. I work full time and do a 2nd job I'm lucky if I can afford 1 night out a mth. We are all struggling. | |||
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"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x " This comment Mr TeddyBear seems to suggest that some of the posters aren't giving you the sympathy you feel you deserve in the terms of club prices/membership fees and the fact you have a disability. Whether or not you have a disability is irrelevant to this debate, as it's simply a case of affordability to go into a club as a single male. I work full time, and yet I can't afford to go to clubs with the frequency that I would like to. There's a valid argument about whether clubs should or shouldn't charge different rates for men, women and couples, but it's unlikely to change unless someone somewhere eventually challanged a club through a court and won, and even if that was the case, there would be many loopholes that could be exploited. You also say you conducted an extensive search of clubs membership fees for single guys, but in addition to the clubs mentioned in this thread, there's also Atlantis in Stoke that doesn't charge a membership fee to any sex or combination of, thus your initial point has been proven to be wrong in the first place. Swinging is a hobby in it's many variations, some of that includes going to clubs, some is going to various socials which are all free and some is meeting in hotels or peoples homes/pubs. Some involves travel, some doesn't but all of it involves cost and that inevitably excludes some people from taking part unless they are willing to save up and perhaps give up something else. | |||
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"Why not challenge them on sexual discrimination ? Just a thought ...." Don't think it is covered, private clubs can have different memberships..like golf clubs men ONLY full membership and women associate membership etc. There are many exception like the Women institute, this is exempt because it's an educational charity. | |||
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"Why not challenge them on sexual discrimination ? Just a thought ...." What a fantastic thought! Yes, lets drag the whole swinging scene through the courts so its front page news in every daily paper and have undercover reporters knocking on the door of every swinging club in the UK to try and rustle up enough sleaze to satisfy the readers. Sex sells, think back to Tommy Sheridan with his alledged visit to Cupids in 2001, Stan Collymore with his late night dogging jaunts in 2004, and in recent years The Krankies outing themselves as swingers. All made the daily papers, some making more prominent headlines than others, but all followed weeks later with sensational spreads highlighting what immoral people swingers are. I'm sure that the owners of the UK's swinging clubs will be right behind you. | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.look at blackpool connections no fees for any onesee website in clubs on here" i've been to both infusions & connections on a regular basis, both are fine clubs, but connections has the edge so far, no membership fee, and a gorgeous new orgy room, but like others have said I couldn't afford it every week, save up and make it a special night out. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The club we go to conduct interviews over the phone for single guys. Not sure what they ask or if they also require a picture? " Maybe the guy would not be honest on the telephone though.Especially if he had been refused once as unsuitable. After all how many fake profile have you heard of, and not just this site. ![]() | |||
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"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x " Do you really think that mr and mrs average go to swinging clubs all the while. Most peole have to live within there means, yes some have more money than others. I wouldnt be able to go clubbing everyweek what with a new outfit and everything. Along with a lot of people swingin comess after everything else is taken care of. It sounds as though you are trying to play a victim here. Doesnt matter if your disabled, for all yu know you could be better of than a young family. Whats wrong with good old fashioned saving up for treats | |||
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"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo." Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state! | |||
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"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo. Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state!" Fuck the cheap swinging........i want a Ferrari. | |||
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"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo. Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state!" Power to the people!!!! ![]() | |||
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"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo. Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state! Fuck the cheap swinging........i want a Ferrari." Well if we can put orders in that Bentley Continental...pretty please... ![]() | |||
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"You wouldn't be able to challenge it legally. A private club can charge what it wants to whoever it wants. This is true of everywhere from the dirtiest nastiest nightclub to the most exclusive private members club in mayfair. As others have suggested, if you can't afford it, don't do it, it's a luxury, and don't give me the "you don't understand" crap, I've been on both sides of the fence in financial terms. Luckily now we're doing well. As somebody else said, ferrari have prices them out of the market. That's life, if you can't afford it, go without it. " | |||
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"The equality laws do apply to all business' if they are a private members club it makes no difference. It is illegal to charge different rates on the grounds of sex, race or sexual orientation. They are even considering making it illegal to give discounts to OAPS and Students as this would be age discrimination. Before anyone points to private members clubs in London most of these are different in that the members actually own a part of the club and so they are exempt from most of the rules. However as far as i know no one has legally challenged a club regarding the entry prices and until they do the price structure will remain the same. I don't agree with the people saying about Ferrari's etc you are missing the point...if Ferrari said for a women we charge £250,000 but men pay £300,000 then that would be the same as the clubs are doing...its not the amount its the fact that men pay more and in some clubs they charge ridiculous amounts, such as AbFabs. For those reading this who think well dont go then, firstly i dont lol but secondly if men pay £60 or £70 to get in then they are going to think that they are onto a sure thing and will be more hassle for couples and single women. In fact i know this has happened at clubs as i have been at one where two guys were thrown out for being pests and not taking no for an answer and they both said with the amount they paid they thought we would able to get some action. But as it is now, if you dont want to pay find a club that wont rip you off..they do exist ! You wouldn't be able to challenge it legally. A private club can charge what it wants to whoever it wants. This is true of everywhere from the dirtiest nastiest nightclub to the most exclusive private members club in mayfair. As others have suggested, if you can't afford it, don't do it, it's a luxury, and don't give me the "you don't understand" crap, I've been on both sides of the fence in financial terms. Luckily now we're doing well. As somebody else said, ferrari have prices them out of the market. That's life, if you can't afford it, go without it. " I think you've missed the point somewhat too. The OP made it sound like he was being priced out of life's essentials - like water, hence my remark about Thames Water. Sex clubs are not essentials, and with all luxuries, most of us save for it, but there is a minority that have a sense of entitlement. If charging men more is against the law why don't these same men make a legal challenge...I won't hold my breath! | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x" So by that logic is it fair that I can't afford to eat at michelin starred restaurants every weekend because i'm a student? A swingers club isnt a right or a necessity it is a luxury. | |||
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"Have you seen the price of tickets at Chelsea? some weeks I can't afford it so I go to Welling United instead. And kids get in cheaper there? What's that all about? some weeks its even worse and I'm totally potless so we just stay at home and whine about stuff" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo. Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state! Fuck the cheap swinging........i want a Ferrari. Well if we can put orders in that Bentley Continental...pretty please... ![]() A very nice one drove past me today. Made me smile as I thought about this thread | |||
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"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x " ive actually read back and cant see any comments with attitude | |||
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"We are a new couple to swinging and were nervous about our visit to a club We decided to go on a couples and single fem only night as felt we would be more comfortable with other couples Most couples go to clubs to have fun with other couples and socialise the last thing we would want is to be followed around a club by a load of horny single guys We both want to enjoy the night as a couple And also a lot of the guys that visit clubs alone also have wives at home they are only after extra stuff The prices of clubs reflect who visits the clubs most and what they are into we can't afford to visit every week as with any outside activity it's a luxury which has to be paid for which we have to save to do " I think you have made a couple of huge assumptions there, one that "most" couples go to clubs only to play with other couples and that "a lot" of the guys that go are married and are there without the knowledge of their partners. There are of course plenty of couples that feel the way you do, but also plenty that go partly or solely to meet and play with single guys and so appreciate their presence. My partner and I will happily play with both couples and singles if the chemistry is right at the time. And yes I am sure there are married/attached guys that attend , but there are also lot's of men that are genuinely single and enjoy the club environment and know how to behave appropriately. | |||
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"Sorry if we have it wrong but by looking at people's profiles on this site most couples are looking for couples or single fems and most single girls are looking for couples or single fems We are not saying single guys shouldn't be there that's why we chose a couples only night but even though they have to pay more its still a cheap night out if they get what there after What we were trying to say is its not just the singles guys who struggle to finance there nights out we all do " so the straight single girls should pay higher than the single bisexual women? or bisexual men should pay less than the straight???..sorry I didnt get the sense there lol | |||
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"Not saying that Just prices keep the numbers down to what a club caters for " I was just teasing but theres a double edged sword isnt there? making single men pay more(sometimes extortionately more) often gives the impression that they should expect a little 'more' for their money I'd at least have a wank in an open room where theres play if I'd paid possibly £40 to get into ffs lol | |||
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"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x" i dont think its those with money saying tough - ive no money and just accept that what i would like i cant have - some weeks i can barely afford to eat and i work - | |||
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"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x" I dont think youve read the comments properly then! The ones ive been reading have all been from people saying that they are in similar financial positions and that they dont expect to be handed things on a plate just because they have a lower income (as i do at the moment). Its also absurd of you to claim that you should get some sort of disability discount for clubs and keep mentioning it when really your original point was about the "extortion" of single males and your disability is irrelevant to your argument. Also, swinging is just that-some form of play between couples. When i was a single female on here i was constantly reminded that i was not a swinger-and they'd be right! Single males and females are welcome in the swinging world but they'd be quite within their rights to ban the lot of us, seeing as singles playing by themselves dont really fit into that category. Like people have said-do what the rest of us do and cut down on other luxuries, put that saved money in a pot and wait until you have enough. | |||
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"OP makes a good point! .. Interviews for everyone that wants to be a member of a club is a good idea! It would help with security and keep away the wrong sort of people." The wrong sort according to who? | |||
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"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x" actually do what the rest of us have to do... budget... if I want a holiday for example... I have to budget... the car I am driving now.... budget... weekend away... guess..... budget you may not be able to go as often as you want... but save 5-10 pounds every so often and you'll get there | |||
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"Make it free for all single guys... 500 blokes all wanking and us couples will go round the corner in peace ..Just a thought lol" lol hahaha x | |||
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"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x i dont think its those with money saying tough - ive no money and just accept that what i would like i cant have - some weeks i can barely afford to eat and i work - " I have two jobs as I am paying off debts. My second job is shifts in a pub, due to the after Christmas period, I have had an hour shaved off two of my shifts which means what's left barely covers the petrol and I am leaving my day job early so that I can get home and walk to the second job to save money, not much fun at 10 pm I can tell you ![]() | |||
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"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x" can you explain why you feel you are being exploited ? | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x" Sorry to sound harsh but yes it is fair, I and my wife work long hrs in our jobs, but could never afford a 6 bedroom house with his n her cars and an inside pool is that fair yes it is these clubs offer a service and need to be paid for. Have you any idea what it cost to run these clubs or ever thought about NO you ain't save up and go and stop winging | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x" Its called a free market! | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x" if you are able bodied enough to get to, from and around a swingers club, may I ask why you cannot work? | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.xif you are able bodied enough to get to, from and around a swingers club, may I ask why you cannot work? " NO you can't because like. Few of disabled people they think they are owed everything in life, sorry but had to get that off my chest, and yes I understand there is lots out there that do work | |||
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"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x" Petulance in adults is very unattractive! ![]() | |||
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"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x Petulance in adults is very unattractive! ![]() you work that's disgraceful | |||
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" I can just about survive on what I have " Less whining and be grateful that you even have that as a starter. | |||
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" I can just about survive on what I have Less whining and be grateful that you even have that as a starter." get another job then | |||
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"who as two cars these days jeese ..one is a bonus ![]() Exactly!..we've had 2 cars as needed 2 cars for work, with both working. We have had to downsize to one car and re-adjust our employment even, to fit in with the economic climate. From having new BMW's and Mercedes, we are now down to a 4 year old Ford Focus in less than 18 months! Cloth well and truly cut! | |||
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"OUCH!!! FOR A LIGHTER SIDE TO THIS THREAD.... STILL... MAY BE THE CLUBS SHOULD DO MORE TOGETHER AND THE GET BEHIND EACH OTHER CLUB ON BEHALF OF THE SITE AND STOP BICKERING BETWEEN THEM SELVES SUPPORT CUSTOMERS AND SUPPORT OTHER CLUBS MAY BE AN AFFILIATION CARD FOR CUSTOMERS OR GET A DISCOUNT CARD FOR LOYALTIES LIKE... DO YOU HAVE A SWINGERS BONUS CARD POINTS MAKE PRIZES ![]() The RBL swingers club please have your CIU cards on you at all times, on behalf of the Committee | |||
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"could put loyalty points on my nectar card" or offer 5p off a litre of fuel when you visit the club twice in a month | |||
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"It's simple economics and maths. If the clubs charge less for men and more for women and couples then, as has already been pointed out, this would drastically slash the amount of women and couples attending but greatly increase the amount of men. This then has serious knock on effects, females/couples who would attend on a whim and frequently will now limit their visits to every so often (The same as most males). Therefore the chance of hooking up with anybody greatly decreases. Some women go nearly every day, do you think they'd do this if they had to pay? This would then lead to most clubs struggling financially as many males too would stop attending. Again as someone else has already mentioned, it ain't cheap to run these clubs. Also, in the area you live in you've got a dearth of decent clubs in easy reach. Clubs like Adam and Eve's are about £50 membership for year (Save up a quid a week!) and £20 entry. Factor in that you can take your own beer and food in, can use all facilities etc., it's much cheaper than a night in the pub and very good value in my eyes, especially compared to alternative entertainment like football, cinema etc. So dust yourself down, save a few quid a month and get yourself organised. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"LIKE ME IM LOOKING TO CAR SHARE WITH SEXY PEOPLE AND GET TO CLUBS BY SHARING COST WITH FEMALES OR BLOKES FUEL COSTS AND GOING IN AS COUPLE AS FRENDS[TO THE LADIES]" The caps lock button is on the left hand edge of the keyboard ![]() | |||
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"This post did not go the way the OP wanted! ![]() To be honest I think its hilarious half of the things people have brought up. I couldn't give a toss what any of you think. We all have reasons for bitching about things, "I can't have because", I was bitching about my opinion towards entry fees, whether you like it or not my opinion is what it is, and whether I like it or not, your opinion is yours and we all have a right to them, x | |||
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"just have it so the number of single guys is restricted and they have to book in advance then noone would be dissapointed! simple and it works in a certain club we go to" This i agree with alot more than just over charging single guys,x | |||
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"This post did not go the way the OP wanted! ![]() to be honest, I don't think many of us give a toss that you can't afford to go ![]() | |||
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"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.xif you are able bodied enough to get to, from and around a swingers club, may I ask why you cannot work? " You can ask whatever you want. Thats the great thing about forums.x | |||
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"This post did not go the way the OP wanted! ![]() ![]() Lol then why are you on this thread commenting then? ![]() | |||
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"This post did not go the way the OP wanted! ![]() ![]() just passing the time until ‘‘call the midwife‘‘ starts ![]() | |||
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"The fact that you asked the question means you probably give a toss what people think. And that you felt you now have to go back through the thread quoting people more so. It started an interesting debate that reinforced the status quo. I congratulate you on that. Now I'm off to have sex with my beautiful woman. Have a good night. " Goodnight, and enjoy.xxx | |||
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"This post did not go the way the OP wanted! ![]() ![]() ![]() Thats a pretty good reason actually. I'm going to geek out and watch "Avengers Assemble".x | |||
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"i don't know if this has alrady been said but get a fuck buddy and get a couple membership.....hey presto money saved and a guaranteed shag ![]() ![]() Thats good idea, i am actually looking into it, hopefully I'll find 1 soon. Thanks,x | |||
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"I think using the word 'exploitation' to describe this scenario is a little bit too much. I would describe 8 year old girls being smuggled into countries to be used in illegal sex industries as exploitation but not this. Yes, it is a lot of money but looking at other posts though it doesnt seem like uve done a lot of homework either. Id like to take my family on holiday this year but cant afford it so hey ho. Maybe next year. Good luck ![]() That's kidnapping, slavery, rape, sexual assault, Illegal smuggling and yes the sexual "exploitation" of a minor, but the word "exploitation" does fit just as well into my view of the majority of clubs pricing system.x | |||
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"I think using the word 'exploitation' to describe this scenario is a little bit too much. I would describe 8 year old girls being smuggled into countries to be used in illegal sex industries as exploitation but not this. Yes, it is a lot of money but looking at other posts though it doesnt seem like uve done a lot of homework either. Id like to take my family on holiday this year but cant afford it so hey ho. Maybe next year. Good luck ![]() Yes but you are still not getting the point, if the pricing structure was changed then most clubs would go under in no time, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Instead it would be moans about why there aren't any clubs. It's like cheap holidays, they're only viable to the holiday companies because they are being propped up by the sky high prices charged during school holidays. Thankfully I don't have any kids but the ones who do have little option these days. Any business has to cover it's overheads the best way possible and whilst I agree that both scenarios appear unfair, they are what they are because that is what to be found to be workable. Look at the big picture, not just how it affects you (And I for that matter) | |||
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"Even with the pricing structure as it is, the number of men heavily outweighs the number of women. If it were changed then they would probably provide a similar experience of being sat in Wetherspoon's, dressed only in a towel ![]() +1 Almost every single guys FAB forum based moan for every aspect of swinging can come down to "way to many guys compared to women and couples who meet men" Thats the reason for everything, from cost at clubs to lack of "fab" meets. etc etc I dont get why its so hard for some to understand :P | |||
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"Disabled cant you use some of that disability living alowance (drinks and lifestyle alowance) thats paid on top of any benefits or taxable income £150.00 per month lowest level fact easily pay for going to a club or put your income and outgoings on here and im sure many could find ways to cut your cloth or would they be in uproar as to your amount of disposable income" judgemental and ignorant. | |||
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"Disabled cant you use some of that disability living alowance (drinks and lifestyle alowance) thats paid on top of any benefits or taxable income £150.00 per month lowest level fact easily pay for going to a club or put your income and outgoings on here and im sure many could find ways to cut your cloth or would they be in uproar as to your amount of disposable income" ![]() | |||
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