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By *awty_Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

Near Maidstone

Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis.

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By *exy and HotCouple
over a year ago

St Albans


"Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis.

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You must have an old car then?

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
over a year ago

South West London

Chuck the Khan out May 2024

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By *awty_Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

Near Maidstone


"Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis.

You must have an old car then? "

2013, but what’s that got to do with the price of bread lol. We’ve had all the flash cars in the past, now rather than do that, we have four holidays a year, but all this has got nothing to do with the fact that suddenly the cost of a night out on the very fringes of London is £25 more expensive, at a time of high inflation blah blah blah.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis.

You must have an old car then?

2013, but what’s that got to do with the price of bread lol. We’ve had all the flash cars in the past, now rather than do that, we have four holidays a year, but all this has got nothing to do with the fact that suddenly the cost of a night out on the very fringes of London is £25 more expensive, at a time of high inflation blah blah blah. "

I think there were saying your car but be non ULEZ compliant and that is usually due to the type or age of car.

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By *exy and HotCouple
over a year ago

St Albans


"Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis.

If it’s a petrol engines 2013 it’s compliant

You must have an old car then?

2013, but what’s that got to do with the price of bread lol. We’ve had all the flash cars in the past, now rather than do that, we have four holidays a year, but all this has got nothing to do with the fact that suddenly the cost of a night out on the very fringes of London is £25 more expensive, at a time of high inflation blah blah blah. "

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis. I take it you have entered your car reg number in the TFL or DVLA website and your car is non compliant.Just that I thought my old 18 year Corsa wouldn’t be compliant when ULEZ first started but it was.

You must have an old car then?

2013, but what’s that got to do with the price of bread lol. We’ve had all the flash cars in the past, now rather than do that, we have four holidays a year, but all this has got nothing to do with the fact that suddenly the cost of a night out on the very fringes of London is £25 more expensive, at a time of high inflation blah blah blah. "

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By *ustus56Couple
over a year ago

rugby

to be compliant with ULEZ your diesel car has too have a euro 6 engine fitted which is approx 2015 onnwards but a petrol car can go as far back as 2006.in reality though we know its not about clean air its just yet another tax grab that will make the poorest ppl even poorer and will most likely kill a lot of businesses in the congestion zone not that will bother khan.if it was about clean air why are classic vehicles allowed in the zone for free

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By *aribbean King 1985Man
over a year ago

South West London

People should ask themselves why does ULEZ have to be £12.50? why not for example could it not be set at £5? Seriously folks for the sake of common sense don't vote for Sadiq Khan next year. I'm tired of the road closers with the LTNs, sick of crime getting worse in London, tired of travel fare and council tax going up and not getting value for it and just tired of him passing blame when don't go right

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By *ottodot123Couple
over a year ago

Gillingham

I think House of Sutton is going to be the same isn't it.

Certainly adds a lot onto the cost.

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple
over a year ago

Surrey


"I think House of Sutton is going to be the same isn't it.

Certainly adds a lot onto the cost. "

They will, as will OP4F I believe.

It really sucks for these clubs as it will majorly impact their business and there is nothing they can do about it.

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By *ottodot123Couple
over a year ago

Gillingham


"I think House of Sutton is going to be the same isn't it.

Certainly adds a lot onto the cost.

They will, as will OP4F I believe.

It really sucks for these clubs as it will majorly impact their business and there is nothing they can do about it. "

Yes definitely that's gotta be hasn't it.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"I think House of Sutton is going to be the same isn't it.

Certainly adds a lot onto the cost.

They will, as will OP4F I believe.

It really sucks for these clubs as it will majorly impact their business and there is nothing they can do about it.

Yes definitely that's gotta be hasn't it.

"
. It will be interesting to see if people who like to travel to a club as opposed to going to a more local one in case someone sees or recognise them start going to more local clubs.

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By *awty_Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

Near Maidstone


"to be compliant with ULEZ your diesel car has too have a euro 6 engine fitted which is approx 2015 onnwards but a petrol car can go as far back as 2006.in reality though we know its not about clean air its just yet another tax grab that will make the poorest ppl even poorer and will most likely kill a lot of businesses in the congestion zone not that will bother khan.if it was about clean air why are classic vehicles allowed in the zone for free"

Thank you, someone gets it, exactly this ??

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By *awty_Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

Near Maidstone


"I think House of Sutton is going to be the same isn't it.

Certainly adds a lot onto the cost.

They will, as will OP4F I believe.

It really sucks for these clubs as it will majorly impact their business and there is nothing they can do about it. "

And exactly this!

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By *unguy0069Man
over a year ago

Reigate

The most fu**ed (that’s meant to say fucked) up part is that kestrel is going to be affected by cars that emits on average 4.7 metric tonnes of CO2 each year….right next to an airport that emits each year 20 million tonnes. I guess our next flight from there has gone up by twelve pound fifty then. More if your Airbus has been parked gig free for a day or two…Absurd.

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By *awty_Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

Near Maidstone


"The most fu**ed (that’s meant to say fucked) up part is that kestrel is going to be affected by cars that emits on average 4.7 metric tonnes of CO2 each year….right next to an airport that emits each year 20 million tonnes. I guess our next flight from there has gone up by twelve pound fifty then. More if your Airbus has been parked gig free for a day or two…Absurd."

That a bloody brilliant point.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"to be compliant with ULEZ your diesel car has too have a euro 6 engine fitted which is approx 2015 onnwards but a petrol car can go as far back as 2006.in reality though we know its not about clean air its just yet another tax grab that will make the poorest ppl even poorer and will most likely kill a lot of businesses in the congestion zone not that will bother khan.if it was about clean air why are classic vehicles allowed in the zone for free"

The congestion zone and ULEZ are two different things.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Also, isn’t it only about 9% of cars that will have to pay the ULEZ charge?

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By *g1979Man
over a year ago

bexley


"Also, isn’t it only about 9% of cars that will have to pay the ULEZ charge?"

Only 9%?

Well that's ok then.

I drive a 2011 van for work as a self employed tradesman. Only 100k on the clock. All paid off and runs fine. I rang up about the scrappage scheme. Was told I need to apply then they would tell me where I could get it scrapped. I would then have to wait 30 days for the money. I asked how am I supposed to get to work between the time of getting it scrapped and the money to replace it and was advised I need to find alternative means of travel. Cheers for that.

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By *ain and sortedMan
over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex

Perfectly put! Utter madness, my transport driver has had to buy newer trucks otherwise it will cost him £300 per day that would mean the cost of delivery esculates from £150 to 450, that's not realistic, for now he's going drop my cars 2 miles away and we will have to go collect, which isn't the end of the world, to keep costs down, however 5 people out of the showroom at once isn't conducive to business, tax, more tax, I feel sorry for the really less well off who were encouraged to buy diesel, better fuel economy, less road tax now their being punished, madness

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By *ain and sortedMan
over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex


"The most fu**ed (that’s meant to say fucked) up part is that kestrel is going to be affected by cars that emits on average 4.7 metric tonnes of CO2 each year….right next to an airport that emits each year 20 million tonnes. I guess our next flight from there has gone up by twelve pound fifty then. More if your Airbus has been parked gig free for a day or two…Absurd.

That a bloody brilliant point. "

Very well said!

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By *ain and sortedMan
over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex


"Also, isn’t it only about 9% of cars that will have to pay the ULEZ charge?"

That's the 9% of people who can't afford to upgrade their car, isn't it 9% of the population live on the bread line, yet again taking away their independence or pushed out of London, state dependant, do as your told or get sanctioned

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By *awty_Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

Near Maidstone


"Also, isn’t it only about 9% of cars that will have to pay the ULEZ charge?

That's the 9% of people who can't afford to upgrade their car, isn't it 9% of the population live on the bread line, yet again taking away their independence or pushed out of London, state dependant, do as your told or get sanctioned "

Exactly this, we are lucky and have actually gone out and got a new car this weekend, but not everyone can, and it does feel in this country the rich get richer and the poor get poorer x

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

If the government hadn’t insisted on expansion of the ULEZ in exchange for money for TFL then it wouldn’t be happening.

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner


"If the government hadn’t insisted on expansion of the ULEZ in exchange for money for TFL then it wouldn’t be happening."

And this is the truth....

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By *yth11Couple
over a year ago

newark

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By *yth11Couple
over a year ago

newark


"Also, isn’t it only about 9% of cars that will have to pay the ULEZ charge?"

That number is likely correct for those based in London as many have already got rid however the numbers are likely far higher for those based outside of London as there are 5 million cars of both fuel types aged 20 to 40 years plus a few million diesels aged 8 to 19 years most of which will not meet the ULEZ standards.

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By *hristeresa12Couple
over a year ago

Totnes

Ulez situation is bloody ridiculous, my Subaru WRX STi which does about 20 mpg and I have to pay £675 per year rfl due to its carbon foot print thing is exempt from Ulez. My Kia Sportage diesel which at the last MOT they struggled to get an emissions reading on it was so low I do have to pay for. Worlds gone crazy.

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By *estivalfunloverMan
over a year ago

didcot

My car is from 2004. I had to drive into London, and so went to register on the ULEZ site, and found my car is exempt from charges. Definitely worth checking rather than assuming the worst.

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By *exy and HotCouple
over a year ago

St Albans


"My car is from 2004. I had to drive into London, and so went to register on the ULEZ site, and found my car is exempt from charges. Definitely worth checking rather than assuming the worst."

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis.

"

I think we should organise a bang bus ... I mean swingers bus. A minibus that picks everyone up from a set location (s) and takes them on either some kind of pub crawl then the club or straight to the club.

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By *oublethefunMan
over a year ago

royston


"to be compliant with ULEZ your diesel car has too have a euro 6 engine fitted which is approx 2015 onnwards but a petrol car can go as far back as 2006.in reality though we know its not about clean air its just yet another tax grab that will make the poorest ppl even poorer and will most likely kill a lot of businesses in the congestion zone not that will bother khan.if it was about clean air why are classic vehicles allowed in the zone for free"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You would think that cars that arnt ulez compliant would be banned . But no charge them 12.50 that will stop air pollution wouldn't it .. money maker

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner

Not sure if it's true but I heard today that if you don't open an account with TFL and register your car before entering the zone you will get a £90 fine on top of the £12.50 charge!

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By *immesomemoreMan
over a year ago

basingstoke

As always, fine just means “it’s legal for a price”

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By *r_YouTubeMan
over a year ago

Colchester


"Not sure if it's true but I heard today that if you don't open an account with TFL and register your car before entering the zone you will get a £90 fine on top of the £12.50 charge!"

Its £180 fine, 90 if paid within 14 days. And thats per day! breached. Ouch!

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By *rotic daysMan
over a year ago

oxford

wonder how many people outside the ULEZ zone will think twice about meeting people in London? I live in Oxford and often pop into London for clubs and private meets...thinking twice now about going anywhere near London for meets now

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By *ittlechick77Couple
over a year ago

Staines


"wonder how many people outside the ULEZ zone will think twice about meeting people in London? I live in Oxford and often pop into London for clubs and private meets...thinking twice now about going anywhere near London for meets now "
do you not visit people in Oxford Town cente they charge any vehicle other than full electric

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London

Didn't seem to put many people off Sunday just gone!

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By *awty_Two OP   Couple
over a year ago

Near Maidstone


"Didn't seem to put many people off Sunday just gone!"

No, it was reasonably busy for sure x

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By *rotic daysMan
over a year ago

oxford

take the bus in city centre it easy

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By *un Times 1Man
over a year ago

coventry

You sure you have to pay the ULEZ charge. Mine is 2014. It is exempt from the ULEZ charge.

If you engine is Euro 5 compliant you shouldn’t have to pay the charge.

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By *rizlarMan
over a year ago

Bridgwater

I was born and lived all of my life in Hillingdon Borough but now sick and tired of London so decided to sell up and move down to Somerset!

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"Didn't seem to put many people off Sunday just gone!"
. Friday night at OP4F in North London was very busy as well so I am guessing most have got ULEZ compliant cars.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

Once again the forecasts of the imminent demise of Kestrels/ Abfabs appear premature.

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By *ragon007Man
over a year ago

london

Actual facilities are good but I think it’s bit too big to maintain.but it’s more of. Gym vibe when they stopped the play in pool area

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By *exy and HotCouple
over a year ago

St Albans


"Actual facilities are good but I think it’s bit too big to maintain.but it’s more of. Gym vibe when they stopped the play in pool area "

It’s a great club and they constantly improve it.

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By *ustus56Couple
over a year ago

rugby


"You sure you have to pay the ULEZ charge. Mine is 2014. It is exempt from the ULEZ charge.

If you engine is Euro 5 compliant you shouldn’t have to pay the charge."

for diesel vehicles it has to be euro 6

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By *inkyPixelMan
over a year ago

Cranford


"Jeez, so we are planning on Abfabs next Saturday, with maybe a quick chill Sunday at Kestrels, but even without Kestrels, just realised it is now going to cost an extra £25 per visit, as the ULEZ charge runs midnight to midnight… looked at going by train but for the two of us that would be £127 plus taxis.

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I live in the local area so my suggestion is to look at the 81 bus route and stay in Colnbrook. You will get free parking in the area during the night. The bus journey is about 3 stops and drops you literally outside the club/McDonald's. And I believe it is a 24 hour bus.

And finally of you wanted to crash over then Colnbrook had the Arora hotel (Old, Bath Rd, Colnbrook, SL3 0PH)

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By *rLordMan
over a year ago

Swadlincote

Yep that's putting me of going down to those clubs.

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By *likat50Woman
over a year ago

london /bracklesham bay

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