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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

I went to a Greedy Girls night at a poor club which I won’t name this week. It was free for couples and fems but £30 for single men….and not particularly well attended.

Now as a business person myself, I understand why a premium is put on solo male fees. I’ve paid thousands more than other members at my usual club over the past 15 years, but how is £30 MORE justifiable?

More importantly, though, is the culture it breeds. A lot of men - ‘the so-called Wanking Dead’ - now believe they have a right to some action because they’ve paid a lot of money to get in. This is not swinging and on this particular night (sold as real sex night!) ended up with clicky couples playing with each and a dozen men stood around them wanking. What really made me angry was men touching without permission!

It was depressing and not a way to generate a good swinging atmosphere - it felt more like a cheap brothel!

Some women and couples will want single men at clubs and some won’t. That’s why many clubs have Couples and Fems only evenings which I totally get.

But if male numbers significantly drop (and we are in a cost of living crisis), lots of clubs would be forced to close.

So my plea is to certain club owners is please don’t treat us single guys with utter contempt. If you buck the trend, you may find that your club becomes the ‘go to’ place for couples, fems and SINGLE GUYS!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I went to a Greedy Girls night at a poor club which I won’t name this week. It was free for couples and fems but £30 for single men….and not particularly well attended.

Now as a business person myself, I understand why a premium is put on solo male fees. I’ve paid thousands more than other members at my usual club over the past 15 years, but how is £30 MORE justifiable?

More importantly, though, is the culture it breeds. A lot of men - ‘the so-called Wanking Dead’ - now believe they have a right to some action because they’ve paid a lot of money to get in. This is not swinging and on this particular night (sold as real sex night!) ended up with clicky couples playing with each and a dozen men stood around them wanking. What really made me angry was men touching without permission!

It was depressing and not a way to generate a good swinging atmosphere - it felt more like a cheap brothel!

Some women and couples will want single men at clubs and some won’t. That’s why many clubs have Couples and Fems only evenings which I totally get.

But if male numbers significantly drop (and we are in a cost of living crisis), lots of clubs would be forced to close.

So my plea is to certain club owners is please don’t treat us single guys with utter contempt. If you buck the trend, you may find that your club becomes the ‘go to’ place for couples, fems and SINGLE GUYS!! "

But you knew it was advertised as a greedy girls night and as you say was sold as a “real sex night” yet you still chose to attend and pay the fee that you now consider excessive?

Am I missing something here?

Was the lack of action a factor in this complaint?

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

No it wasn’t. I was using this as an example of how men get exploited…there have been countless other club nights like this.. I’m either an idiot for paying that entry fee (most probably!) or the clubs have to be a bit fairer in their pricing which should mean a better experience for everyone.

P.s I did have opportunities to play that night but didn’t fancy/connect with anyone. As I say, I’m just trying to make a wider point about pricing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No it wasn’t. I was using this as an example of how men get exploited…there have been countless other club nights like this.. I’m either an idiot for paying that entry fee (most probably!) or the clubs have to be a bit fairer in their pricing which should mean a better experience for everyone.

P.s I did have opportunities to play that night but didn’t fancy/connect with anyone. As I say, I’m just trying to make a wider point about pricing. "

There are a dozen threads on the subject of single guys pricing at clubs very week.

We appreciate the attendance of single guys at clubs and we’d like to see everyone of you get in for free but as is usually stated single ladies and couples are given discounted entry to draw the cash cow.

In a bizarre way we’re actually being exploited too!

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Massively appreciate that. And yes, you’re probably being exploited too. Didn’t think of it like that!

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that?

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By *lubCouple500Couple
over a year ago

Paradise Island


". I’ve paid thousands more than other members at my usual club over the past 15 years, but how is £30 MORE justifiable?

Now as a business person myself, I understand why a premium is put on solo male fees "

Think you have answered your own question chap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Massively appreciate that. And yes, you’re probably being exploited too. Didn’t think of it like that!

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that? "

So do you propose we bring down the cost of single guy entry and in all likelihood massively increase their numbers or bring up the cost of single lady and couples entry and probably reduce their numbers?

I think we’d best leave the business model to the club owners to be honest who seem to have a handle on it.

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By *oudBeSurprisedMan
over a year ago

Fife


"Massively appreciate that. And yes, you’re probably being exploited too. Didn’t think of it like that!

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that?

So do you propose we bring down the cost of single guy entry and in all likelihood massively increase their numbers or bring up the cost of single lady and couples entry and probably reduce their numbers?

I think we’d best leave the business model to the club owners to be honest who seem to have a handle on it. "

Equality?

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By *ragon007Man
over a year ago

london


"Massively appreciate that. And yes, you’re probably being exploited too. Didn’t think of it like that!

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that?

So do you propose we bring down the cost of single guy entry and in all likelihood massively increase their numbers or bring up the cost of single lady and couples entry and probably reduce their numbers?

I think we’d best leave the business model to the club owners to be honest who seem to have a handle on it. "

If per person is charged than it’s better as it feels fair but way of the world is chance of sex sells

The concept of swinging gone out of window when single men are charged double I know Lots of clubs who charge little bit more not excessive amounts and still successful it just feels right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I went to a Greedy Girls night at a poor club which I won’t name this week. It was free for couples and fems but £30 for single men….and not particularly well attended.

Now as a business person myself, I understand why a premium is put on solo male fees. I’ve paid thousands more than other members at my usual club over the past 15 years, but how is £30 MORE justifiable?

More importantly, though, is the culture it breeds. A lot of men - ‘the so-called Wanking Dead’ - now believe they have a right to some action because they’ve paid a lot of money to get in. This is not swinging and on this particular night (sold as real sex night!) ended up with clicky couples playing with each and a dozen men stood around them wanking. What really made me angry was men touching without permission!

It was depressing and not a way to generate a good swinging atmosphere - it felt more like a cheap brothel!

Some women and couples will want single men at clubs and some won’t. That’s why many clubs have Couples and Fems only evenings which I totally get.

But if male numbers significantly drop (and we are in a cost of living crisis), lots of clubs would be forced to close.

So my plea is to certain club owners is please don’t treat us single guys with utter contempt. If you buck the trend, you may find that your club becomes the ‘go to’ place for couples, fems and SINGLE GUYS!! "
it is £40 for men to get into the va club and jaydees club near me.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

I attend OP4F in North London their greedy girl night is on a Tuesday single guys £30 couples £20 single girls free. This price structure seems to work at OP4F as it’s always a good night out and is always well attend.

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

That’s the point I was trying to make.. much more eloquently put here! I don’t mind paying more but no excessively more. Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Massively appreciate that. And yes, you’re probably being exploited too. Didn’t think of it like that!

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that?

So do you propose we bring down the cost of single guy entry and in all likelihood massively increase their numbers or bring up the cost of single lady and couples entry and probably reduce their numbers?

I think we’d best leave the business model to the club owners to be honest who seem to have a handle on it. "
and changing the cost for the entry for men wouldn't increase the amount of men going to the club's lol cost wouldn't change a thing. If a man really wants to go to them clubs, well then he will do, no matter what the cost is, he will pay it if he really wants in there. These days half the population of men who go out to the pub sniff Coke. They probably spend around £50 to £200 maybe, depends on the night I suppose. So 40 or 30 quid doesn't decrease the amount of men attending those clubs trust me lol because if it was the case, then guys would just get d*unk and that before they went there and fished out 40 quid or something. If they thought it cost to much wouldn't they? I can see what this guy is saying here. It is a bit one sided with the cost there for guys. It wouldn't hurt bringing the price down for men to attend, apart from the owners pocket I suppose lol to be honest I don't think there is enough men in the va club from what I seen when I went. And I find those clubs are out the way from everything, in the middle of nowhere, nice and private. I think the membership fee should be that price, but then maybe a fiver or something every time you go there,once you are a paid member

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By *ackdaw52Man
over a year ago

Chesterfield

No, it isn't fair but that's the way it has to be for the business model to work.

The sexual marketplace isn't fair!

And clubs won't lower prices for men until men's attendance drops low enough to justify it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess it's a simple "supply and demand" issue tbh.

Single women are harder to encourage into clubs so hence the reduced or free entry.

Women advertise their whereabouts and that often attracts more guys.

The ratios are usually kept tight and so there is usually always a waiting list of guys wanting to come along, all paying the "extortionate" rate.

A lot of guys expect action as they pay to get in but if anything, that just means (to me) that the single male price isn't high enough to deter the wanking-dead.

I've seen anal parties where guys are charged as much as £120 entry.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

As someone who has been going to clubs for well over 10 years, if you don’t like it don’t go to clubs. It’s part and parcel of the scene. Clubs have charged guys more for best part of 20 years

It’s all about ratios. To many single guys m, yes gets money but lose out on couples and single women. The guys then moan m. The guys then don’t go. Couples and single ladies go but the club doesn’t earn enough.

I always think it should be 1 single guy to a single woman and maybe 1.5 / 2 couples.

I have seen couples moan when 10 guys in with 60 couples. I don’t know why but that’s another conversation.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"No it wasn’t. I was using this as an example of how men get exploited…there have been countless other club nights like this.. I’m either an idiot for paying that entry fee (most probably!) or the clubs have to be a bit fairer in their pricing which should mean a better experience for everyone.

P.s I did have opportunities to play that night but didn’t fancy/connect with anyone. As I say, I’m just trying to make a wider point about pricing. "

As someone who has played as a couple and a single guy the answer is simple don't go if the price bothers you

Clubs wouldn't close cause single guys didn't attend for a couple of reasons

Couples only nights are always busier than ones that allow single guys

Most couples spend more money behind the bar as most men don't drink as much as it may effect performance

Men can groan as much as they like simple fact is we will pay more as it keeps the numbers down

Some clubs do a single to couple ratio but that also causes issues I have travelled 60 miles to an event only to be told that the ratio was right at the time and wouldn't be letting any single guys in until more couples arrived

Try dating apps if the price for you is an issue

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple
over a year ago

Preston


"Massively appreciate that. And yes, you’re probably being exploited too. Didn’t think of it like that!

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that? "

Possibly contentious, but you think if the entry price for men went down, less men would attend?

It would be great for there to be equality and verification for everyone, but someone would complain about that too, it's what the British are good at!

The only thing that will prompt a change in club pricing structure, is men not paying the existing rates. If no men go to clubs, they'll become the new unicorns!

I also think that the price paid won't alter how a guy should behave in a club. An entitled wanker will still be an entitled wanker if he's saved £20 on the entry fee.

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By *uncouple99Couple
over a year ago

colchester ish

You said you understood the business model but you clearly don’t.

The club needs to make a profit to continue to operate, complete maintenance etc.

If they could charge single ladies and couples and still have the same number attend do you not think they would do it? If they put the price up for ladies what do you think will happen. They will go to the free club down the road. Ok so price now drops to £20 for all. You go there there are no women. Would you go back?

In the scheme of things is £30 a lot? People use cost of living crisis as a reason why things should be cheaper. However it’s the opposite. It means the clubs running costs are increasing. Maintenance, drinks, staffing everything costs them more.

How many of these clubs are raking it in. Very few, or there would be loads of them. What else are you going to do with your £30 that’s more fun. If you think of it like that it might actually seem like a bargain. Why worry about what other people pay. Just think it costs £30 is that cost worth it for me to attend. Or find a female friend and attend together for free if you need to save some cash

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford


"it is £40 for men to get into the va club and jaydees club near me. "

But it is £15 for single women and £35 for couples, at least at Jaydees. So you're not getting charged that much over what couples are paying.

Also, sadly, swinging is not a cheap hobby. However, when you're in a pub with your "mates", if you do go, it's not going to be much less for a few pints.

OP, if the charges bother you so much, vote with your feet and don't go? Or find somewhere you are happy with the pricing structure?

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

To the OP; you knew the price of the event beforehand, so can’t really complain you were charged ‘more’ when it was clear solo women and couples were free entry.

Think about it; any club offering free entry for certain demographics is desperate for attendees to draw in the cash cows….

You’ve obviously had better success in other clubs/at other events, so vote with your feet and stick to those in future

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By *estinysswingersCouple
over a year ago

Worsley

Ah the age old thread about single guys paying too much.

If they were being charged too much then clubs would be empty of single guys. Same logic applies for couples and single woman.

While may not be seen as fair to some, the charges are a happy medium so we all get to enjoy clubs.

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Fylde Coast

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Fylde Coast

Men are not exploited in clubs. Entry prices are always advertised before you go. It's you that makes the choice to pay or not.

If you want to pay less you have two options. 1, find a lady and go with her. 2, Run your own events. FYI option 1 is easier than 2!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The attendance of women in the club is what draws the single straight/bisexual men to the club, so without women in there do you want to pay £10 to stand around in a circle with other blokes looking at each other having a wank? Some guys might like that but I'm guessing attendance to clubs would do down significantly and then the club goes out of business.

Females should get in free and couples should pay far less than single men otherwise the only fucking going on in a club is that its fucking empty.

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Fylde Coast


"The attendance of women in the club is what draws the single straight/bisexual men to the club, so without women in there do you want to pay £10 to stand around in a circle with other blokes looking at each other having a wank? Some guys might like that but I'm guessing attendance to clubs would do down significantly and then the club goes out of business.

Females should get in free and couples should pay far less than single men otherwise the only fucking going on in a club is that its fucking empty."

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that? "

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s a clear market here, if your not willing to pay them there are thousands more men waiting to take your place, a lot of clubs advertise the event with a selected male guest list , does this make a difference to the wanking dead ? Probably not

Single men only have themselves to blame for acting like it’s a porno movie set

Who can blame the clubs

As for our preference it will always be a Saturday night

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Fylde Coast


"There’s a clear market here, if your not willing to pay them there are thousands more men waiting to take your place, a lot of clubs advertise the event with a selected male guest list , does this make a difference to the wanking dead ? Probably not

Single men only have themselves to blame for acting like it’s a porno movie set

Who can blame the clubs

As for our preference it will always be a Saturday night "

Very true.

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By *agicmarcMan
over a year ago

tonyrefail

men know the prices before they go sane as hotels jacking prices up whrb there’s a event on in a city don’t want to psy don’t

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By *aGaGagging for itCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I totally understand your frustration OP, but another way to look at it is that the 'inflated prices for males' possibly keeps the number of males down. Would you rather pay £15 and have double the number of men there or £30 and have half of them there.

Another possibility is for clubs to lower their entrance fee for males on greedy girl type nights, as females / couples will always attend, if that's what they want, and it will bring in the number of males that they seek. However, the downside is that it will bring in too many males as far as males are concerned.

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Fylde Coast

£30 is no money at all.

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By *elkieWoman
over a year ago

Durham


"I went to a Greedy Girls night at a poor club which I won’t name this week. It was free for couples and fems but £30 for single men….and not particularly well attended.

Now as a business person myself, I understand why a premium is put on solo male fees. I’ve paid thousands more than other members at my usual club over the past 15 years, but how is £30 MORE justifiable?

More importantly, though, is the culture it breeds. A lot of men - ‘the so-called Wanking Dead’ - now believe they have a right to some action because they’ve paid a lot of money to get in. This is not swinging and on this particular night (sold as real sex night!) ended up with clicky couples playing with each and a dozen men stood around them wanking. What really made me angry was men touching without permission!

It was depressing and not a way to generate a good swinging atmosphere - it felt more like a cheap brothel!

Some women and couples will want single men at clubs and some won’t. That’s why many clubs have Couples and Fems only evenings which I totally get.

But if male numbers significantly drop (and we are in a cost of living crisis), lots of clubs would be forced to close.

So my plea is to certain club owners is please don’t treat us single guys with utter contempt. If you buck the trend, you may find that your club becomes the ‘go to’ place for couples, fems and SINGLE GUYS!! "

So. You went to a night where the majority of men acted entitled and touched without asking, thus the women didn’t feel safe to be their best, sluttiest, greediest selves - but it’s all the club owner’s fault for charging too much?

You understand how little sense this makes?

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Massively appreciate that. And yes, you’re probably being exploited too. Didn’t think of it like that!

I know I’m being far too simplistic/idealist, but wouldn’t it be fab if we all just paid the same!? As well as the money, I genuinely believe it would mean fewer blokes constantly circling around with their cocks out and touching without permission. Who wants that?

Possibly contentious, but you think if the entry price for men went down, less men would attend?

It would be great for there to be equality and verification for everyone, but someone would complain about that too, it's what the British are good at!

The only thing that will prompt a change in club pricing structure, is men not paying the existing rates. If no men go to clubs, they'll become the new unicorns!

I also think that the price paid won't alter how a guy should behave in a club. An entitled wanker will still be an entitled wanker if he's saved £20 on the entry fee."

Birmingham

Now I’ve had time to think about it…this is so true. An entitled wanker will always be an entitled wanker!

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"You said you understood the business model but you clearly don’t.

The club needs to make a profit to continue to operate, complete maintenance etc.

If they could charge single ladies and couples and still have the same number attend do you not think they would do it? If they put the price up for ladies what do you think will happen. They will go to the free club down the road. Ok so price now drops to £20 for all. You go there there are no women. Would you go back?

In the scheme of things is £30 a lot? People use cost of living crisis as a reason why things should be cheaper. However it’s the opposite. It means the clubs running costs are increasing. Maintenance, drinks, staffing everything costs them more.

How many of these clubs are raking it in. Very few, or there would be loads of them. What else are you going to do with your £30 that’s more fun. If you think of it like that it might actually seem like a bargain. Why worry about what other people pay. Just think it costs £30 is that cost worth it for me to attend. Or find a female friend and attend together for free if you need to save some cash

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You make some really fair points here. Personally, I’d be devastated if my local club closed where I’ve been a member for 15 years,

I think the business model is correct to get the balance of clientele right. I’m happy to pay double, but when it comes triple or quadruple I feel, although I can well afford it, that it’s too much. Not all clubs do this btw. Someone has just pm’d me to say SaunaSauna in Norwich charge £18 for both men and women and they’ve just had a cracking night!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun "

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You said you understood the business model but you clearly don’t.

The club needs to make a profit to continue to operate, complete maintenance etc.

If they could charge single ladies and couples and still have the same number attend do you not think they would do it? If they put the price up for ladies what do you think will happen. They will go to the free club down the road. Ok so price now drops to £20 for all. You go there there are no women. Would you go back?

In the scheme of things is £30 a lot? People use cost of living crisis as a reason why things should be cheaper. However it’s the opposite. It means the clubs running costs are increasing. Maintenance, drinks, staffing everything costs them more.

How many of these clubs are raking it in. Very few, or there would be loads of them. What else are you going to do with your £30 that’s more fun. If you think of it like that it might actually seem like a bargain. Why worry about what other people pay. Just think it costs £30 is that cost worth it for me to attend. Or find a female friend and attend together for free if you need to save some cash

You make some really fair points here. Personally, I’d be devastated if my local club closed where I’ve been a member for 15 years,

I think the business model is correct to get the balance of clientele right. I’m happy to pay double, but when it comes triple or quadruple I feel, although I can well afford it, that it’s too much. Not all clubs do this btw. Someone has just pm’d me to say SaunaSauna in Norwich charge £18 for both men and women and they’ve just had a cracking night!! "

You don’t need to pay more they simply use an algorithm such as 1 single guy for every 2 whether it be couple or single female.

Paying double or more is exploiting the singles guys but it’s a vicious circle subject on here

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By *elix85Man
over a year ago

Kings Lynn

The business model is fair. If you discounted prices for single men, what would happen is you’d have fewer women & fewer couples and a ton more single men wandering around being - as you put it - “the wanking dead”. Not a great experience.

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By *elix85Man
over a year ago

Kings Lynn

Men will be present whatever charge is set. But you need to provide an incentive for women to attend.

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By *elix85Man
over a year ago

Kings Lynn


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We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action."

Precisely this. Discount the price for men and the ratio between men/women would be so skewed the experience would be spoilt for everyone.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


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We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action."

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab….

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By *elix85Man
over a year ago

Kings Lynn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

Precisely this. Discount the price for men and the ratio between men/women would be so skewed the experience would be spoilt for everyone."

It wouldn’t if numbers were capped

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By *elix85Man
over a year ago

Kings Lynn


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab…."

Ratio you cited explains why some clubs try to incentivise more females to attend through a pricing structure. The Greedy Girls event I’ve attended at The Annex was very well attended by women, I’d say 1 to 3 ratio (including couples). Which is perfectly fine.

Clubs are better for me as my wit and charm can help me play with people… alas, as I was not blessed with an nine inch cock and washboard abs, I cannot rely on my photos to do it for me here on this site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab….

Ratio you cited explains why some clubs try to incentivise more females to attend through a pricing structure. The Greedy Girls event I’ve attended at The Annex was very well attended by women, I’d say 1 to 3 ratio (including couples). Which is perfectly fine.

Clubs are better for me as my wit and charm can help me play with people… alas, as I was not blessed with an nine inch cock and washboard abs, I cannot rely on my photos to do it for me here on this site."

Not saying that ratio is set in stone.

Whatever figure you charge guys will attend!

Men want pussy Women want Cock Men want Men Women want Women it’s irrelevant.

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By *elix85Man
over a year ago

Kings Lynn


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab….

Ratio you cited explains why some clubs try to incentivise more females to attend through a pricing structure. The Greedy Girls event I’ve attended at The Annex was very well attended by women, I’d say 1 to 3 ratio (including couples). Which is perfectly fine.

Clubs are better for me as my wit and charm can help me play with people… alas, as I was not blessed with an nine inch cock and washboard abs, I cannot rely on my photos to do it for me here on this site.

Not saying that ratio is set in stone.

Whatever figure you charge guys will attend!

Men want pussy Women want Cock Men want Men Women want Women it’s irrelevant. "

As I say, whatever price you will charge men will attend. But at least the numbers will be relatively manageable. So you can have a reasonable M/F ratio. Have a flat rate, or charge men nothing, you’d have fewer women attend as some be put off by the fact that they’d have a dozen men flocking round them. Not conducive for a sexy and relaxed vibe.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab….

Ratio you cited explains why some clubs try to incentivise more females to attend through a pricing structure. The Greedy Girls event I’ve attended at The Annex was very well attended by women, I’d say 1 to 3 ratio (including couples). Which is perfectly fine.

Clubs are better for me as my wit and charm can help me play with people… alas, as I was not blessed with an nine inch cock and washboard abs, I cannot rely on my photos to do it for me here on this site."

I would say the fact you have the Annex right on your doorstep is a big factor in why you go there, and possibly don’t try as hard using Fab? If you had to travel the best part of 2 hours to get to a club, would you be as keen?

A ratio of 3 guys to 1 woman in a club is quite impressive though, most clubs I’ve been to, the ratio has been far greater…

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By *elix85Man
over a year ago

Kings Lynn


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab….

Ratio you cited explains why some clubs try to incentivise more females to attend through a pricing structure. The Greedy Girls event I’ve attended at The Annex was very well attended by women, I’d say 1 to 3 ratio (including couples). Which is perfectly fine.

Clubs are better for me as my wit and charm can help me play with people… alas, as I was not blessed with an nine inch cock and washboard abs, I cannot rely on my photos to do it for me here on this site.

I would say the fact you have the Annex right on your doorstep is a big factor in why you go there, and possibly don’t try as hard using Fab? If you had to travel the best part of 2 hours to get to a club, would you be as keen?

A ratio of 3 guys to 1 woman in a club is quite impressive though, most clubs I’ve been to, the ratio has been far greater… "

Please don’t make assumptions. I have tried but - guess what! I’m not an Adonis so I can’t get meets via the website. I use this site at the moment to connect with people I meet at the clubs etc.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab….

Ratio you cited explains why some clubs try to incentivise more females to attend through a pricing structure. The Greedy Girls event I’ve attended at The Annex was very well attended by women, I’d say 1 to 3 ratio (including couples). Which is perfectly fine.

Clubs are better for me as my wit and charm can help me play with people… alas, as I was not blessed with an nine inch cock and washboard abs, I cannot rely on my photos to do it for me here on this site.

I would say the fact you have the Annex right on your doorstep is a big factor in why you go there, and possibly don’t try as hard using Fab? If you had to travel the best part of 2 hours to get to a club, would you be as keen?

A ratio of 3 guys to 1 woman in a club is quite impressive though, most clubs I’ve been to, the ratio has been far greater…

Please don’t make assumptions. I have tried but - guess what! I’m not an Adonis so I can’t get meets via the website. I use this site at the moment to connect with people I meet at the clubs etc.

"

Hey mate, it’s all good! Play to your strengths! You’re obviously attractive to some, as you’ve done well in the clubs! I’m the opposite! I’ve done a total of 18 club visits now, and only played on 3 occasions. Fab works better for me, but I do think the fact we don’t have any clubs local to us, means people put more effort in to using Fab, rather than having to trek the best part of 2 hours to get to a club

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By *alleyDaveMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

Just out of curiosity. I've never been to a club, and never will. Do they have a bar, and do they charge over the odds for alcohol as well?

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Just out of curiosity. I've never been to a club, and never will. Do they have a bar, and do they charge over the odds for alcohol as well? "

Most are unlicensed, so you take your own alcohol

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By *aznshaneCouple
over a year ago

St Annes


"That’s the point I was trying to make.. much more eloquently put here! I don’t mind paying more but no excessively more. Thanks "

The couples usually pay £20 on the Thursday but there is an offer on at the moment, and if you were a member of the club it would be £20 also

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By *i-roman OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"That’s the point I was trying to make.. much more eloquently put here! I don’t mind paying more but no excessively more. Thanks

The couples usually pay £20 on the Thursday but there is an offer on at the moment, and if you were a member of the club it would be £20 also "

That’s good to know. Thanks.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

I have to travel minimum 4 hours round trip to clubs, book a hotel every single time, petrol costs, outfit costs, I’d much rather be a guy that lives closer to a club and pay their entry fee than what it costs me to club haha.

Minimum £200 a month and that’s if I get the hotel booked early.

Even with entry fees, i think clubs are still a much cheaper night out than a standard vanilla one so doesn’t matter all too much.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"I have to travel minimum 4 hours round trip to clubs, book a hotel every single time, petrol costs, outfit costs, I’d much rather be a guy that lives closer to a club and pay their entry fee than what it costs me to club haha.

Minimum £200 a month and that’s if I get the hotel booked early.

Even with entry fees, i think clubs are still a much cheaper night out than a standard vanilla one so doesn’t matter all too much. "
. I’m that guy who has a club and spa less than a hour away.I am also that guy that doesn’t complain about the entrance fee as I know the price before I get to the entrance door.I pay my money and go with the attitude no expectations no disappointments and if I have some naughty fun then it’s a bonus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just out of curiosity. I've never been to a club, and never will. Do they have a bar, and do they charge over the odds for alcohol as well?

Most are unlicensed, so you take your own alcohol "

Some don’t even have the right Licences to be operating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You paid £30 to get in a club by your choice. Expecting sex because it was a greedy girls night,the uninvited touching by single males can soon be dealt with by club staff which I agree is appalling.When visiting a club you can't say the club was poor it is the people who are there on the night expect nothing because you are in a club doesn't mean you will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

The average club night is just Fab condensed in to one building; 60% single males, 35% couples, 5% single women. Assuming it’s a night single guys are ‘allowed’ in. I was in a club just last night, and didn’t get any ‘action’, but I do have meets lined up for next week, through using Fab….

Ratio you cited explains why some clubs try to incentivise more females to attend through a pricing structure. The Greedy Girls event I’ve attended at The Annex was very well attended by women, I’d say 1 to 3 ratio (including couples). Which is perfectly fine.

Clubs are better for me as my wit and charm can help me play with people… alas, as I was not blessed with an nine inch cock and washboard abs, I cannot rely on my photos to do it for me here on this site.

Not saying that ratio is set in stone.

Whatever figure you charge guys will attend!

Men want pussy Women want Cock Men want Men Women want Women it’s irrelevant.

As I say, whatever price you will charge men will attend. But at least the numbers will be relatively manageable. So you can have a reasonable M/F ratio. Have a flat rate, or charge men nothing, you’d have fewer women attend as some be put off by the fact that they’d have a dozen men flocking round them. Not conducive for a sexy and relaxed vibe."

Some clubs will just let as many in. I know a club that most times has more guys than couples or females as it’s not managed as it’s profits over quality or reputation.

So many factors to work at but club owners see £££ over quality and respect at some clubs

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By *eeliciouschaosWoman
over a year ago

Wherever

What do you mean by “poor club”?

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By *bwstarzWoman
over a year ago

south cheshire

Which clubs have lots of single men cause the events I’ve been to recently seem to have a lot of couples and I prefer my single guys!

Referring back to the OP, The pricing structure has been a bone of contention for years and unfortunately will not change, I do know some guys have started boycotting a club that charges £15 more for a certain party when the same host charges less in a different club. They just feel that that club in particular see’s them as cash cows so they’ve stopped going.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's far easier for women to find easy sex than it is for a man.

I'm guessing the prices reflect this.

If women are outpriced there's a chance they'll get their kicks through other channels.

If the men are charged far less, there's a chance of oversaturation of men, leading to less chance to get sex with the sheer volume, and likely leading to reduce the amount of women due to the situation feeling overwhelming.

The pricing structure suggests to me that women are what sells, and therefore considered commodity here, which could also be frowned upon, much as the men paying more.

This subject comes up often, very often and nobody finds a real answer that could possibly make the difference, only an answer that suits them personally.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford


"

We all pay the same to use Fab, and I have to say, in my experience; pound for pound, Fab is a far better way to meet women for fun

Yes men and women/couples pay the same on fab and if clubs operated the same policy then they would have the same ratio of single men complaining on there forums how difficult it is to get some action.

Precisely this. Discount the price for men and the ratio between men/women would be so skewed the experience would be spoilt for everyone.

It wouldn’t if numbers were capped"

How exactly are you going to cap the numbers so that everyone is happy? On a regular night, women and couples don't have to book, therefore the organisers are only assuming how many spaces for single men they can have.

Also, how are you going to choose which men should attend? First come first serve (not everyone can make plans beyond a day or two), have a cut off date for all interested to put their names in and then randomly select some? What if most don't turn up?

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

Price doesn’t control the ratio of men, women and couples.

Cos men keep paying.

Any decent club and host balances their own guest lists.

No decent club or party I’ve been too has ever been over ran. Some have more single men than others based on the theme of the party.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford


"Just out of curiosity. I've never been to a club, and never will. Do they have a bar, and do they charge over the odds for alcohol as well? "

If you don't think you'd ever go to a club, why ask? But to answer, it depends on a club. Some are licensed, and you either have to pay for your drink straight away or you put them on a tab that needs to be settled at the end of the day (no, drinks are not included in the entry price). Others are bring-your-own-booze, and bar staff would look after it for you.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford


"Some clubs will just let as many in. I know a club that most times has more guys than couples or females as it’s not managed as it’s profits over quality or reputation.

So many factors to work at but club owners see £££ over quality and respect at some clubs"

Those clubs that let any in, were they, by any chance, spa-based clubs? Like Chameleons in Darlaston or Kestrels near Heathrow? If the answer is "yes", in spa-based clubs, you don't get any limits (mostly, unless staff decide there are already too many men in, which can happen sometimes) as nobody has to book.

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By *omtom7Man
over a year ago

Tralee

Seriously, £30 isn't that much. All these Clubs have substantial overheads, especially if there's hot tubs, saunas, pools etc. Forget about what others are paying, look at it from your on point of view. Is £30 good value to go to a nice venue, meet some new people, possibly have some fun and make use of the facilities? Personally I think yes. ANyone go to the cinema lately, that'll open your eyes and wallet.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Which clubs have lots of single men cause the events I’ve been to recently seem to have a lot of couples and I prefer my single guys!

Referring back to the OP, The pricing structure has been a bone of contention for years and unfortunately will not change, I do know some guys have started boycotting a club that charges £15 more for a certain party when the same host charges less in a different club. They just feel that that club in particular see’s them as cash cows so they’ve stopped going. "

Good for those who vote with their feet! Charging more in this particular case, for the same event by the same host, but in a different club, IS overcharging for sure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's be honest you can't eat out somewhere nice for £30 pounds.

When you factor in the costs of the club and how much effort the hosts put in £30 is still extremely cheap.

I've recently been to a night club and paid a similar amount.

I'm more than happy to pay it and will continue to do so.

Also for those complaining that women have it better of course they do and so they should because where would we be without boobs haha

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By *horty4Man
over a year ago

london

The most tedious subject gets another airing. Move on….

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Let's be honest you can't eat out somewhere nice for £30 pounds.

When you factor in the costs of the club and how much effort the hosts put in £30 is still extremely cheap.

I've recently been to a night club and paid a similar amount.

I'm more than happy to pay it and will continue to do so.

Also for those complaining that women have it better of course they do and so they should because where would we be without boobs haha"

With the greatest respect my friend, you enjoy clubs running events specifically in your favour, and is very different to the bulk of single guys. In this regard, the cost for you is much less of a factor, which is great for you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suggest everyone goes to an event that is in their favour or is for their type because why wouldn't.

I get that the hotel, travel expenses and what not add up but let's be honest it's still at a great price point.

And let's be honest if it was 50-80 pounds we'd still pay it haha

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By *exy and HotCouple
over a year ago

St Albans


"The most tedious subject gets another airing. Move on…."

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"I suggest everyone goes to an event that is in their favour or is for their type because why wouldn't.

I get that the hotel, travel expenses and what not add up but let's be honest it's still at a great price point.

And let's be honest if it was 50-80 pounds we'd still pay it haha "

I’m sorry, I wouldn’t pay more than £50 entry for a swinger club

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

I think it depend a lot on the club and the way its run.

Our favourite Club is outrageous in terms of what it charges for single guys. However it is always very popular and a brilliant club. So from a couples point of veiw it matters not to us because how they run the club works well for us. However I in single guy mode just probably what to fork out that kind of experience annually how ever good the club is. However many more guys do and there's sometimes a membership waiting list.

We've been a few time to a club that has no single guy membership or forms or details taken. Just a reasonable price at the door for entry. In fact that is what attracted me to try it as my first club as a single guy. And naturally its very popular with single guys. The club can be a bit of a sausage fest at times. Also has some of the biggest groups of wanking dead prowling the play areas in Street clothes we've seen. And where I've seen some of the iffiest single guy behaviours. I believe as a result of the entry policy (mainly) and low fees. It's a club that doesn't really work for us personally.

Then we go to a small club that has free membership (but you do need to apply for membership) and single guy entry is very reasonable. Yet a fair few couples and I would say more than the norm younger single ladies regularly go. I think this is partly to do with city centre location and surrounding demographic. Also on the whole the regular guys there tend to be decent and I think that is a draw for single women (on top of free entry). So an example of a club where it's cheap for single guys yet works well for all.

Mr

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"I suggest everyone goes to an event that is in their favour or is for their type because why wouldn't.

I get that the hotel, travel expenses and what not add up but let's be honest it's still at a great price point.

And let's be honest if it was 50-80 pounds we'd still pay it haha

I’m sorry, I wouldn’t pay more than £50 entry for a swinger club "
. On a Friday night at OP4F it’s £50 entrance fee for a single guy which I have paid no problem it’s the end of my working week so a good time to chill out and not worry about work the next day.Saturday is couples only & single ladies but they do allow 5-6 single select guys from 11.00 pm it was £70 before lockdown as I attended a couple of times but now £80.For me Saturdays are awkward to attend but if I had a Saturday night free I would apply and wait to see if I am one of the 5-6 select guys.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford


"I suggest everyone goes to an event that is in their favour or is for their type because why wouldn't.

I get that the hotel, travel expenses and what not add up but let's be honest it's still at a great price point.

And let's be honest if it was 50-80 pounds we'd still pay it haha

I’m sorry, I wouldn’t pay more than £50 entry for a swinger club "

You wouldn't, but I'm sure there are men who would.

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By *amantha TSWoman
over a year ago

Swindon

I've seen a lot of posts here saying if prices were equal then the clubs would be empty as the couples / females wouldn't go. What evidence do you have to support that?

My local club runs a night where everyone pays the same. There are no ratios, no limits, no barriers, no advance tickets. Just the first 200 people through the door, and it's packed every month. Some months there's a lot of guys, some months there isn't. As it's an open event, a lot of the guys aren't hassling the women, they're going off with each other

I understand why club owners might not want to take the risk, but for this club it seems to paying off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a lot of posts here saying if prices were equal then the clubs would be empty as the couples / females wouldn't go. What evidence do you have to support that?

My local club runs a night where everyone pays the same. There are no ratios, no limits, no barriers, no advance tickets. Just the first 200 people through the door, and it's packed every month. Some months there's a lot of guys, some months there isn't. As it's an open event, a lot of the guys aren't hassling the women, they're going off with each other

I understand why club owners might not want to take the risk, but for this club it seems to paying off!"

Perfect model.

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By *alleyDaveMan
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Just out of curiosity. I've never been to a club, and never will. Do they have a bar, and do they charge over the odds for alcohol as well?

If you don't think you'd ever go to a club, why ask? But to answer, it depends on a club. Some are licensed, and you either have to pay for your drink straight away or you put them on a tab that needs to be settled at the end of the day (no, drinks are not included in the entry price). Others are bring-your-own-booze, and bar staff would look after it for you. "

Just asking out of curiosity, as reading this thread it's clear clubs rip off single blokes with entry prices, so I was asking whether they also charged rip off prices for alcohol. The admission charge for single blokes is the reason I would never attend a club. I could afford it, but bit I won't pay it on principle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some clubs tend to put extra security on for male heavy party nights, the first 20 single guys through the door pay for that, we haven't seen visible security at a couple and fems only night (yet)

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple
over a year ago

Fylde Coast

It's a numbers game. There are far more men trying to get in to clubs than cpls or ladies and for that reason they pay the overheads.

Personally we tend to avoid nights that have single guys but we totally understand that clubs need them as they make economical sense.

Men will always pay more. It might feel unfair but its just the way it is and it isn't going to change. Everyone has a choice in how they spend there money.

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