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"Hi, I stopped going as a single male as it was getting uncomfortable watching the “wanking zombies” wandering around making it difficult for us social, respectable guys to actually make conversation and relax with no agenda. I’m fortunate now that I go with a lovely friend, and it’s fair to say that it seems to be quantity over quality a lot of the time these days. Little effort is made by some to engage in conversation, they just expect to get off on the female party, and most do not come prepared (if you know what I mean) should they be lucky enough to join us for some fun. Not entirely sure what the answer is given the income generation that is made from this, but sometimes it would be nice maybe to have a couples only day or certainly cap the numbers of males, I’d happily pay more for us to have occasionally a quieter day with less pests about!" Have to agree - i always make an effort to be polite, friendly and to respect boundaries - there are some single males who act as if it’s the first time they’ve ever seen a naked woman. However some of the worst behaving offenders I’ve ever seen in clubs are blokes who have come in with female partners - I’ve heard one say “it’s ok for me to touch you as I’ve come in with my partner so you know I’m good” ffs | |||
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"Hi, I stopped going as a single male as it was getting uncomfortable watching the “wanking zombies” wandering around making it difficult for us social, respectable guys to actually make conversation and relax with no agenda. I’m fortunate now that I go with a lovely friend, and it’s fair to say that it seems to be quantity over quality a lot of the time these days. Little effort is made by some to engage in conversation, they just expect to get off on the female party, and most do not come prepared (if you know what I mean) should they be lucky enough to join us for some fun. Not entirely sure what the answer is given the income generation that is made from this, but sometimes it would be nice maybe to have a couples only day or certainly cap the numbers of males, I’d happily pay more for us to have occasionally a quieter day with less pests about! Have to agree - i always make an effort to be polite, friendly and to respect boundaries - there are some single males who act as if it’s the first time they’ve ever seen a naked woman. However some of the worst behaving offenders I’ve ever seen in clubs are blokes who have come in with female partners - I’ve heard one say “it’s ok for me to touch you as I’ve come in with my partner so you know I’m good” ffs" Can’t say I’ve seen that behaviour from anyone at the club I go to, and they do clamp down and take that sort of behaviour extremely seriously, but I agree that I’m sure it goes on. I wish everyone would treat everyone with respect, kindness and observe people’s boundaries, but then again I’m one of life’s dreamers | |||
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"Hi, I stopped going as a single male as it was getting uncomfortable watching the “wanking zombies” wandering around making it difficult for us social, respectable guys to actually make conversation and relax with no agenda. I’m fortunate now that I go with a lovely friend, and it’s fair to say that it seems to be quantity over quality a lot of the time these days. Little effort is made by some to engage in conversation, they just expect to get off on the female party, and most do not come prepared (if you know what I mean) should they be lucky enough to join us for some fun. Not entirely sure what the answer is given the income generation that is made from this, but sometimes it would be nice maybe to have a couples only day or certainly cap the numbers of males, I’d happily pay more for us to have occasionally a quieter day with less pests about!" I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations. The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird. There was a definite lack of personal space! | |||
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"I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations. The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird. There was a definite lack of personal space! " May I ask which club that was? | |||
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"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs. Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company. Whatever happened to looking after yourself? Use your words! You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection. You’ll be in there on your own. When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really. " Great reply  | |||
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"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. " Absolutely. I’ve not had any hassle and I go on my own. I’m pretty vocal and would soon tell them. Met some rude old guy last week who objected to me chatting to my mate and said we could do that in the pub and we were here to shag. We just looked at him and he toddled off. | |||
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"And that's why I don't go to these clubs if 90% of the people who attend are single men" Well that’s a real shame  | |||
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"And that's why I don't go to these clubs if 90% of the people who attend are single men" They’re not but you do what's right for you based upon your beliefs | |||
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"And that's why I don't go to these clubs if 90% of the people who attend are single men" Is usually much more balanced than people think, (unless it's a greedy girls night). There are people that like single guys to be at clubs there are people that get uppity about single guys daring to exist in the same space as them. There are some people that enjoy socialising, there are others that lack social skills wondering around looking for an opportunity that doesn't require much social skills. But on the main , everything balances out because in my experience most people in clubs are very nice and welcoming. So don't be put off. | |||
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"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs. Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company. Whatever happened to looking after yourself? Use your words! You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection. You’ll be in there on your own. When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really. " Tbh I think you missed the point of my post, it's not just about the behaviour of single guys as like I said there are some really respectfully guys out there & we enjoy playing with them, it's more about the amount & quality of the guys that a venue let in to the detriment & enjoyment of couples 
We've been in this lifestyle now for over 25 years but since the return from covid & the need for clubs to generate more cash, never have we seen so many single guys in a venue as are being allowed in now, I'm not talking about event nights where numbers are often set & monitored-
And yes we can certainly look after ourselves and a swift fuck off will do the trick,but ffs why should we need to! Reguardless if this hasn't happened to you, the fact there's even single guys on this thread agreeing kinda makes my point  | |||
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"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. " I've always found Chams to be a very respectful place where everyone gets a bit of what they prefer. I must admit that sometimes on nights of "guestlist events" there are a few guys who come across as a little entitled or pushy but it is still much less than many other clubs. As a single guy I have always found being engaging & social is the key. Sure some couples / ladies a looking for a queue to form but the majority respond to being treated as an individual. Obviously nobody is everyone's cup of tea but adding a bit of sugar in the form of entertaining conversations is the best way to get a chance to find out  | |||
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"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. " Absolutely agree , been as a couple and a single. The guys on Friday are often regulars , well behaved and great fun ...and it's a great atmosphere ... | |||
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"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs. Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company. Whatever happened to looking after yourself? Use your words! You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection. You’ll be in there on your own. When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really. Tbh I think you missed the point of my post, it's not just about the behaviour of single guys as like I said there are some really respectfully guys out there & we enjoy playing with them, it's more about the amount & quality of the guys that a venue let in to the detriment & enjoyment of couples
We've been in this lifestyle now for over 25 years but since the return from covid & the need for clubs to generate more cash, never have we seen so many single guys in a venue as are being allowed in now, I'm not talking about event nights where numbers are often set & monitored-
And yes we can certainly look after ourselves and a swift fuck off will do the trick,but ffs why should we need to! Reguardless if this hasn't happened to you, the fact there's even single guys on this thread agreeing kinda makes my point "You’re right the onus is on the club not the single guys attending. Remove the single men the clubs don’t make money - yeah you have one single ladies and couples nights but that’s only possible by the fact on other nights Single men attend. Remove them Single ladies have to start paying or paying much more that stops them from attending. I think couples attending clubs (financially speaking and numbers wise) is not as important to a club as single women or single men. If you’re after a social aspect then yes couples are very important but in terms of appeal and finance couples are not important; what everyone wants : Single women. What every club needs: Single men. It’s everyone’s responsibility to out the dickheads who attend; but the clubs need to do more to appeal to single women to attend and pay, soo to limit the numbers of single men. Or just have one night where it’s just singles. No couples & counter that with just a couples night. L | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?..." The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really | |||
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"These threads pop up regularly bashing the single guys at clubs. Yes there are some that behave like dickheads, the so called wanking dead but there’s plenty of others that are good fun and know how to make the evening pleasurable for the couples that enjoy their company. Whatever happened to looking after yourself? Use your words! You can’t make every club into your idea of perfection. You’ll be in there on your own. When someone has behaved inappropriately towards us or bothered us we simply tell them to sling their hook. It’s pretty simple really. " I was just about to post a comment but found your comment to be exactly what I wanted to write myself. If it wasn’t for single guys, I wouldn’t be going to the clubs, simply as that. I had more uncomfortable behaviour from male part of so called “couples”, not to mention constant groping by tipsy women who always assume I was bi. It’s not about the number of single guys in the club, it’s about quality of those club allows to attend and it’s pretty easy really. | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really "Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night See how many couples attend then…. | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really
Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night
See how many couples attend then…. "But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there 
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really "They would all go bust quickly if they did that | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really
Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night
See how many couples attend then….
But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there
Clubs are for couples; leave them to it "See that’s just the shitty attitude that some couples have - clubs are for everyone (all shapes, colours and sizes) not just couples - you wouldn’t be complaining if single females came in… would you? | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really
Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night
See how many couples attend then….
But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there
Clubs are for couples; leave them to it
See that’s just the shitty attitude that some couples have - clubs are for everyone (all shapes, colours and sizes) not just couples - you wouldn’t be complaining if single females came in… would you? "If there were more single females in clubs, I would go more often
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really
Good luck with that - the clubs would have to charge you single rates - £80 to £100 (£40 to £50 each) pop a night
See how many couples attend then….
But just imagine it; 1:1 ratio men to women, and everyone paid the same to be there
Clubs are for couples; leave them to it
See that’s just the shitty attitude that some couples have - clubs are for everyone (all shapes, colours and sizes) not just couples - you wouldn’t be complaining if single females came in… would you? "I've been to lots of clubs and loads of different events. I've never seen more than 5 or 6 single women. So easy for them to pair up with someone. Cost them nothing or next to nothing to get in aswell. You just just don't get many single women going. | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?..." Try couples only night or where they limit single guys numbers. It’s that simple  | |||
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" I've been to lots of clubs and loads of different events. I've never seen more than 5 or 6 single women. So easy for them to pair up with someone. Cost them nothing or next to nothing to get in aswell. You just just don't get many single women going. " You'll see more single ladies comment on this thread, than you will on an average club night  | |||
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" I've been to lots of clubs and loads of different events. I've never seen more than 5 or 6 single women. So easy for them to pair up with someone. Cost them nothing or next to nothing to get in aswell. You just just don't get many single women going. You'll see more single ladies comment on this thread, than you will on an average club night "Aye probably | |||
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" I think couples attending clubs (financially speaking and numbers wise) is not as important to a club as single women or single men. If you’re after a social aspect then yes couples are very important but in terms of appeal and finance couples are not important; what everyone wants : Single women. What every club needs: Single men. It’s everyone’s responsibility to out the dickheads who attend; but the clubs need to do more to appeal to single women to attend and pay, soo to limit the numbers of single men. Or just have one night where it’s just singles. No couples & counter that with just a couples night. L" Loving the debate & just what i was hoping for but i wasn't talkng about necessarily evening events where numbers are controlled & Although I agree with some of what you're saying I think it's also very nieve from a single guys perspective that couples arnt as financial important as single guys firstly clubs were born for wife swapping/swinging something we've enjoyed for many years a couple may pay slightly less on an entry price but are much more likely to spend more money within the club as well as attend more events with their playmates or in search for new ones, a couple never come with the expectations of playing with another couple as if all else fails they can still play with one another as a couple we bring more to a club than a single guy & that's just s fact...so when we play with a single guys & enjoy their company that's great for the female but what do you bring to the table for her partner other than the fact he's allowing you to pleasure his wife? As a single guy if that's what you truly think then you're going to the wrong place as there are very few single females visting clubs than couples & you'd be better off sticking to tinder & plenty of fish where you're almost guaranteed a fuck from another singleton, rather than the hope of joining a couple. You have to be of the mindset that most couples will always benefit more from another couple than a one off single guy- but reguardless of that like as been said before single guys are now an important part of the scene & are welcomed into the clubs by couples,but it's equally important to everyone, not just single guys that not every couple are there to fuck, some maybe just voyeurs while others may be exhibitionist or just softplay - this thread was originally directed at the daytime spa community & how to level out the amount of guys attending, as a couple, just because we attend a club & enjoy this lifestyle doesnt mean I want my wife to be treated in a disrespectful way or that we enjoy being followed around in the hope that someone may get a glimpse of us playing or that we're going to open a playroom door no matter how hard it gets banged on, or appreciate that in the middle of a conversation someone's going to plonk themselves down by the side of us & get their cocks out,none of the afore mentioned would stand any single guy as a potential playmate, thankfully their are still some guys out there that get it & it's really appreciated when an effort is made | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?..." This is because in order to allow couples and single women to get in at a discounted price or in yhe women's its often free. The clubs overcharge men often double. So now after the pandemic yhey are now using this method to get more income. The only alternative they probably lying have to avoid charging you £80 that's in London is to allow more men. This is why as a single man I simply a ois clubs its not worth it and I dislike being one of the zombies bored out of my mind wandering about and being treated like a leper if I say hello. So question is, in order to have a lovely time without single men are you willing to pay the same as a single man? | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really "Well then you’d have the problem of couples coupling up just to be able to go to clubs. I like going on my own. Why should I not be allowed to go to clubs because one or two single guys are idiots. And actually I’ve see more arguments and rows between couples on a couple night than I’ve ever seen hassle from single guys. | |||
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" So question is, in order to have a lovely time without single men are you willing to pay the same as a single man? " Once again some valid points but it's only fair to mention that the fee to get in yesterday was £35 for a couple & £40 for a single guy so hardly bank breaking for a single guy lol & it's the other way around they don't subsidise couples, a couple will purchase more at the bar during their stay than a single guy so in fact it all works out about even, but yes absolutely I'd pay more not to be bothered ( maybe a walking supervisor keeping an eye on their behaviour)& so like most couple will when they go to a Saturday night event which are normally couples & single ladies leaving the Friday nights for those that want couples & single girls, or maybe a greedy girls night | |||
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"So I have to start by saying we have enjoyed every club we've been to, they all have their own pros & cons, we also enjoy playing with single guys & couples, & this isn't just a thread to bash them as there are some genuine respectful guys out there but they are getting fewer & far between. Having chatted to several couples as well as reading some of the threads on here I just can't help but think that some clubs are shooting themselves in the foot & are a little short sighted - we all understand that due to the cost of living & having made it through the pandemic that price rises are inevitable & I think most would agree that you don't mind paying a little more,but what seems to be happening is we seem to be getting a little less action everytime we attend now, we love daytime visits to our local club/Spa but where so many single guys are being allowed to roam freely, often upsetting couples by constantly just following them around often disrespecting in their actions being it an uninvited grope, wanking over them, or trying to come into a playroom with a shut door or just rudely sitting next to you with expectations of play. Now I know these single guys bring in much needed revenue & most visit with at least the expectations of a play or a sneaky look at a woman as she's getting changed or into a hot tub and in general they out number couples, like today for instance 4 couples but 25 plus guys, ourselves & another couple left early due to being constantly harrased, so what's going to happen ? Many couples are not going to use the facilities during the day as its not worth the hassle, so the club loses revenue! Then after a while the single guys stop using the club as without the couples being there, there's no one for them to chance it with so they stop coming as well as they don't want to waste money, so then the club has not only lost money but a large portion of the clients & future revenue stream!! Causing hardship & potential closure. Surely we can't be the only ones to see this happening. ... what's the answer?... The answer is; make all clubs couples-only. Simple really They would all go bust quickly if they did that "Exactly! Seems to be the usual self entitled couples who think clubs are only for them. What people seem to forget is many couples and single ladies go for single guys. And yes the guys causing problems are usually the socially inept ones. | |||
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"I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations. The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird. There was a definite lack of personal space! May I ask which club that was?" Kestrels | |||
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"To be fair, a lot of it depends on the club itself. I've been to clubs as part of a couple and also been as a single man and have experienced both sides of the coin. The majority of clubs I have been to have a great balance of single men, single ladies and couples. Having now moved to the North from London, I have noticed the ratios are more balanced up here. In some cases it's literally luck of the draw what the ratio is on non-event nights. I would say having been a couple on and off here in the past, when we wanted couples only fun we specifically targeted couples only nights which were always easy to find. Live and let live. There are some amazing women, men, couples in clubs and also on rare the opposite. Spread the love "Yeah take a nice woman with you and see what different looks you get. Suddenly people who didn't want to know you are all of a sudden interested... | |||
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"I have THE most respectful and genuine club friend. We always enjoy quality time together… and sometimes invite others to join us. However nobody wants to chat first, they don’t start conversations. The do however follow us around. Wanking zombies is right! My friend and I were simply in the pool chatting and a guy was hovering nearby as though something may happen. Which I find weird. There was a definite lack of personal space! May I ask which club that was? Kestrels " This isn’t a dig at the club, the club is great, it’s a pop at the attitude of the men going there. The way they are has definitely changed, the art of good conversation seems to have bypassed them | |||
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"Van I make a small point. Just because you are a man dosnt mean that you can confidently approach h a total stranger at a swingers club. When I have been many couples and single ladies do not give an impression of being very open to being approached by a man on his own. I consider myself a fairly confident person however going into these environments I do not get an impression that couples are that open to being approached. Many a time I have looked at someone smiled or caught someone lokkingbat me with a total lack if interest or if they dotalk to.me expect ne to entertain them through the entire conversation offering little in return.I think this goes both ways if yiu want a couples and single men to work. A smile and attempt to converse goes a long way. Just sitting expecting to be talked to because uiu are part if a couple or a single woman dosnt really help the atmosphere. " Yeah you have to read the room before you make an approach. Why wristbands can be helpful. Sometimes you try and you could be Brad Pitt but they're just not looking for single guys so you're shit out of luck. | |||
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"Van I make a small point. Just because you are a man dosnt mean that you can confidently approach h a total stranger at a swingers club. When I have been many couples and single ladies do not give an impression of being very open to being approached by a man on his own. I consider myself a fairly confident person however going into these environments I do not get an impression that couples are that open to being approached. Many a time I have looked at someone smiled or caught someone lokkingbat me with a total lack if interest or if they dotalk to.me expect ne to entertain them through the entire conversation offering little in return.I think this goes both ways if yiu want a couples and single men to work. A smile and attempt to converse goes a long way. Just sitting expecting to be talked to because uiu are part if a couple or a single woman dosnt really help the atmosphere. Yeah you have to read the room before you make an approach. Why wristbands can be helpful. Sometimes you try and you could be Brad Pitt but they're just not looking for single guys so you're shit out of luck. " Unfortunately the shit out of luck bit is way too common. It's a reason I don't go to clubs anymore unless I am actually meeting someone | |||
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"Van I make a small point. Just because you are a man dosnt mean that you can confidently approach h a total stranger at a swingers club. When I have been many couples and single ladies do not give an impression of being very open to being approached by a man on his own. I consider myself a fairly confident person however going into these environments I do not get an impression that couples are that open to being approached. Many a time I have looked at someone smiled or caught someone lokkingbat me with a total lack if interest or if they dotalk to.me expect ne to entertain them through the entire conversation offering little in return.I think this goes both ways if yiu want a couples and single men to work. A smile and attempt to converse goes a long way. Just sitting expecting to be talked to because uiu are part if a couple or a single woman dosnt really help the atmosphere. Yeah you have to read the room before you make an approach. Why wristbands can be helpful. Sometimes you try and you could be Brad Pitt but they're just not looking for single guys so you're shit out of luck. " Absolutely spot on! Not every couple or single woman is there looking for single guys & that should be respected - those that do including us when we wish to entertain a single guy make it quite obvious,although a lot of the time the general ability to read a room often seems lost due to sheer desperation | |||
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I agree that the revenue obtained by clubs is heavily bolstered by the single males. But at least most clubs cater with couples only nights & events. Hopefully one day I'll be in a position to attend those with a partner. | |||
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"I totally agree. Some of our most uncomfortable swinging occasions have been with couples with the male half acting like a tw@t or the woman assuming all ladies are bi. There are many fabulous single guys in the scene. You just have to politely let the odd idiot, who thinks the lady is a sure thing, know that you are not interested in them joining you. " I've seen more trouble on couples only nights that I have where single gents are invited. | |||
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"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away. Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend. But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex. " I don't think any guy that gies into thus environment thinks sex is a given. However, a little acknowledgement that we exist and a little effort on the part of single women or couples treating us like human beings woukd be nice.ignoring us or treating us as a necessary evil or just as things that pY to keep a club open for your fun dosnt exactly encourage me to want to attend swingers clubs, these days. If I want to feel excluded and marginalised I can find cheaper ways to do it. | |||
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" acknowledgement that we exist and a little effort on the part of single women or couples treating us like human beings woukd be nice." Tbh my friend as a couple we could say exactly the same, I'm assuming from your previous replies that you're one of the more courteous single guys that knows how to behave in a club environment & how & when to interact with couples & single females & read the room, unfortunately for you as this thread proves theres a vast majority that don't & it's their behaviour that paints most of you with the same brush, unfortunate but true & its not couples that see single guys as a cash cow, that's firmly with the owners of the premises | |||
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"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’ I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like……… Chick x" Like aparteid then  | |||
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"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’ I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like……… Chick x Like aparteid then "Stay seated Rosa Parks | |||
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"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’ I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like……… Chick x" That should do it, no more single guys, i certainly wouldnt consider attending on that basis. Just like the club that has single males queue until they believe the ratio is ok. | |||
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"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away. Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend. But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex. I don't think any guy that gies into thus environment thinks sex is a given. However, a little acknowledgement that we exist and a little effort on the part of single women or couples treating us like human beings woukd be nice.ignoring us or treating us as a necessary evil or just as things that pY to keep a club open for your fun dosnt exactly encourage me to want to attend swingers clubs, these days. If I want to feel excluded and marginalised I can find cheaper ways to do it." Spot on - this is why I've pretty much given up on clubs. An expensive way to make you feel worthless. | |||
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"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away. Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend. But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex. " Respect is a two-way street though, and I expect people to look me in the eye, rather than down their noses at me... | |||
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"I think it must depend on the club/night, and how the ratios are managed. I go to clubs to meet single men, I feel comfortable going alone to the many nights I have been to, and never had any issues. " Ditto what you said. | |||
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"I don’t think this discussion will ever go away. Clubs need to make money to survive and single guys pay a higher price to attend. But guys also need to learn respect and boundaries and understand that because they have paid a premium to get in, does not entitle them to sex. Respect is a two-way street though, and I expect people to look me in the eye, rather than down their noses at me..." Know your role. You are a lepper single guy. Just an extra cock if needed. Nothing more than a human sex toy | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men " This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. " You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club  | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club "100% lol | |||
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"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes its not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club? " Perhaps they should advertise outside of the usual swinging community. | |||
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"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes its not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club? Perhaps they should advertise outside of the usual swinging community. " How would you suggest they do that? Clubs aren't really allowed to advertise using fliers etc due to the nature of the venue. | |||
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"That’s easy. Make sure that the staff are friendly and chatty so you are not really left on your on. I’m thinking of chams set up here where you can prop yourself at the bar Find out from the single ladies what they are there for. Ie woman, single guys, black guys etc. go and find those people - being regular trusted members and introduce them. If the club management know their members then they know who will be the chilled out couples or guys to recommend. Make sure the single ladies are introduced to the other single ladies. Check in with them on their first couple of visits and ask them if they are ok. " 100% agree. Most clubs have a host so it should be easy to introduce single ladies/new couples to the host, engage in conversation and introduce to regular members who you know will accept newbies. | |||
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"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes its not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club? Perhaps they should advertise outside of the usual swinging community. How would you suggest they do that? Clubs aren't really allowed to advertise using fliers etc due to the nature of the venue. " I think they are allowed to advertise in lifestyle type magazines such as Cosmo?! | |||
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"That’s easy. Make sure that the staff are friendly and chatty so you are not really left on your on. I’m thinking of chams set up here where you can prop yourself at the bar Find out from the single ladies what they are there for. Ie woman, single guys, black guys etc. go and find those people - being regular trusted members and introduce them. If the club management know their members then they know who will be the chilled out couples or guys to recommend. Make sure the single ladies are introduced to the other single ladies. Check in with them on their first couple of visits and ask them if they are ok. " I have personally witnessed staff at Kestrels do this, and they have been excellent at taking their time and looking after new single ladies | |||
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"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait." It's like fishing in a puddle sometimes | |||
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"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait. It's like fishing in a puddle sometimes " Squirt probably. | |||
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"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait. It's like fishing in a puddle sometimes Squirt probably. " Touche | |||
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"Perhaps the clubs should stop letting so many high paying men in and attract more women to use as sex bait." Well that's what people have been discussing ! What's your ideas? | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club "Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club
Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men "Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men. About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately. I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself... | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club
Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men
Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men.
About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately.
I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself... "I know where you can meet more women than men. Go to a singles night around valentine's day.  | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club
Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men
Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men.
About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately.
I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself... I know where you can meet more women than men.
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"I have found that hard to believe in the past but, unfortunately, see it quite often, even with the more mature couples, one half looking lost and lonely, only to be followed around by the male ‘chancer’ I am not narrow minded about this and know that is always someone else’s arrangement but it not ours, I’m proud to say we support each other with our lifestyle - a 50:50 union British clubs should take a leaf out of the well thought out French clubs books and keep the men separate until invited to join a 3 or more some, just saying like……… Chick x" I think the idea of keeping men separate till they are useful is an awful idea. I've been going to clubs for many years.... and also tend to frequent the nights where single guys are allowed in large numbers.. and can safely say the only night I've had an issue... was couples only night.... had more hassle on that night than any other night | |||
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"I think the idea of keeping men separate till they are useful is an awful idea. I've been going to clubs for many years.... and also tend to frequent the nights where single guys are allowed in large numbers.. and can safely say the only night I've had an issue... was couples only night.... had more hassle on that night than any other night " I hear you on that! I too find couple nights are more trouble | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club
Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men
Interesting, not saying it doesn't happen but I've never been to any sort of event where women out number men.
About a year ago I got a message from a woman organising a party that was on going trying to get more guys because there were more women there (Apparently) but couldn't make it unfortunately.
I went to the next one and there were about 20 guys and 3 women including the organiser herself... I know where you can meet more women than men.
Go to a singles night around valentine's day. "I did actually go to one but ended up getting kicked out because all the ladies ended up infatuated with me. Just wasn't fair on the other singles | |||
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"We attend Friday nights at Chameleons as we look for single guys.Not all the guys are what Hotwife is looking for but we've never suffered hassling or disrespect and always have a good night. " You rarely get any trouble with single guys at Chameleons as most have waited so long to get a membership and don't want to lose it! That said one one time we did have an issue it was on a non members night. | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club
Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men "Really? I’ve only been 17 times as a single guy, and not once did I see more women than men. Is there a particular event you can recommend? | |||
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"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes it’s not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club? " Free entry for single ladies and lifetime membership. | |||
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"How about instead of just saying clubs need to bring in more couples and single ladies, give examples of how they can do this? I know clubs read these forums. Sometimes it’s not so easy as just saying more couples and single ladies need to attend - they know that. But how? What would entince you as a couple or single lady to attend a club? Free entry for single ladies and lifetime membership. " Doesn't work swinging ladies will go anyway, not as if some random lady is going to walk into a club just because it's free!. On another note why should they? They use club facilities the same as everyone else. | |||
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"Yeah forget going to a club where there's 1 woman to 20 men This is one of the reasons why out of all the clubs I've visited, I've never gone back a second time. I've been to several nights where there have been 30+ guys, maybe 4 couples at most, no women at all. You will always have more single women comment on a thread like this, than you will see in a club
Not true….I’ve been to a few nights where there have been more women than men "It's happened to me once where there more couples and single women than single men and I'm not based too far from you so I can well believe it happens (possibly even at the same club lol) | |||
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"We are going to Chams tomorrow. We normally don’t do night where single guys go. Unfortunately, some get too handsy and give the legit guys a harder task to breaking that perception which is such a shame." Report the handsy guys. If bad behavior is reported the guys will get kicked out/banned and this will make things better in the future, as couples will be less hassled, and so, hopefully will be more up for chatting with single guys. I say chatting as I don't expect it toi suddenly make couples want to play with the fuys there but chatting is fine, right? | |||
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