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"perhaps when they say hope to get hammered it is not in the context of alcohol and maybe sexual hammered!" | |||
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"We’ve been and had a drink and also been and not had a drink. We both like a drink but don’t get hammered, nor have I come across anyone hammered. When we socialise in a club there’s usually a mix of people who are drinking and who aren’t. " We have seen many in a state of hammered at clubs which is why we posted this topic. Do remember just before Covid there was a girl in her early 30's she had collapsed over a pool table at one of the clubs we used to visit. Wouldn't say it is prevalent and we do keep our alcohol intake to a minimum when we are in clubs. | |||
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"We’ve been and had a drink and also been and not had a drink. We both like a drink but don’t get hammered, nor have I come across anyone hammered. When we socialise in a club there’s usually a mix of people who are drinking and who aren’t. We have seen many in a state of hammered at clubs which is why we posted this topic. Do remember just before Covid there was a girl in her early 30's she had collapsed over a pool table at one of the clubs we used to visit. Wouldn't say it is prevalent and we do keep our alcohol intake to a minimum when we are in clubs. " Ah we’ve not come across anything like that (yet) x | |||
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"We see this status very often, well in the guise of getting prepared for a mega hangover. We don't like seeing people in this state at clubs. Not great to be like this when consent is top of the agenda at swinging clubs. We steer clear of folk in this state. Question is do these posts on club discussions put you off going to clubs that seem to promote this. Clubs often put in their rules that if you have had to much alcohol they will ask you to leave and then seem to encourage drinking to excess" I don't think any club encourages drinking to excess!? Which club are you referring to? | |||
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"We see this status very often, well in the guise of getting prepared for a mega hangover. We don't like seeing people in this state at clubs. Not great to be like this when consent is top of the agenda at swinging clubs. We steer clear of folk in this state. Question is do these posts on club discussions put you off going to clubs that seem to promote this. Clubs often put in their rules that if you have had to much alcohol they will ask you to leave and then seem to encourage drinking to excess I don't think any club encourages drinking to excess!? Which club are you referring to?" Not referring to any club, just as we look through the forum on the club discussion section we see the reference several times which got us thinking about past visits to clubs and seeing people wasted and not being challenged by staff. We were at a club back in October. There was a nice looking woman eyeing Mrs F up, we were watching said woman over the next 2 hours slowly drinking to excess. Later in the night she could hardly walk. It was at this point she decided to start touching Mrs F without asking, we both just gave her the look. If it had happened again we would have told staff and we know with which club we were in she would have been asked to leave. Like we said we don't find this prevalent in clubs but do find it amazing some plan to go to clubs with getting hammered in mind, really isn't a good look | |||
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"We see this status very often, well in the guise of getting prepared for a mega hangover. We don't like seeing people in this state at clubs. Not great to be like this when consent is top of the agenda at swinging clubs. We steer clear of folk in this state. Question is do these posts on club discussions put you off going to clubs that seem to promote this. Clubs often put in their rules that if you have had to much alcohol they will ask you to leave and then seem to encourage drinking to excess It's funny you mention this because we were talking about this a couple of days ago. We've not visited a club yet and neither of us drink very much. We were saying that we wouldn't get involved with anyone who was d*unk, no matter how well we clicked, specifically because of potential issues around consent. Everyone involved should be able to consciously give consent. And withdraw it at any time of they aren't comfortable Mrs " Go for it. We think clubs are the most relaxing place to be. Over the years we seem to have stopped going to pubs in town, now that is where you will find more hammered people than sober, we now spend nearly all our social time in clubs. We do our homework on which clubs to visit some we will never attend and some we have attended we will never go back to for different reasons. | |||
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"It happens, and really makes me feel urgh. I see more _very_ d*unk, inappropriate females than males though. For example one of the last times I (male) was in a club, a woman I was talking to (she beckoned me over after she'd been chatting to my gf) who was with her partner, lent over the table, grabbed the ring on my leather collar, pulled me half across the table, said "see you're my bitch now", and then grabbed my nipple and twisted it. I just walked away and had a semi laugh about it with my gf, but totally inappropriate behaviour. " Second that on inappropriate behavior from some "ladies" after alcohol.. One tried to drag Mr on the dance floor whilst trying to remove his belt and shirt, grabbing at his crotch and telling him what she was going to do to him.. Obviously I am biased, he's a hot, very good looking guy and many will say "lucky guy" or "my fantasy". But he found her unattractive and had tried politely declining without making a scene, I was told straight for finding it amusing.. There seems a little double standards on such entitled behavior. I hold my hands up for being guilty of that too and not being there for D as he would be for me | |||
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"once seen a man from a cpl leave his mrs in a little cul de sac in a club sat on her own asleep out mouth open, as he went upstairs for a bj off a lady ."oh she be ok theres people about" comment . unreal never ever would i leave the mrs unattended but she would never be in thay state anyway." Some peoples actions are just so hard to comprehend. Him leaving her alone in that state and even worse her getting in that state if she knew she didn't have a partner who wouldn't put her safety first. But then again the said club should have been asking them to leave as a duty of care on the clubs behalf | |||
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"For some it’s just like going to the pub. I wonder where I got that idea from " To be honest we don't go into town anymore. Pubs have lots of hammered folk in them and just a few who have only had the odd drink. Clubs have lots of folk who have had just an odd drink or two and just the occasional hammered person or two. Since we started going to clubs we found people are much more respectful towards others. When we used to go to pubs Mrs F would be touched regularly and getting unwanted attention, in clubs this just doesn't happen, well very very rarely and if people are touching without asking, the clubs we go to would ask people with a lack of respect to leave. As we have seen in previous posts on this thread people are seeing people in clubs getting into a state where the club should be asking them to leave. We do think a lot of clubs do police their policy but unfortunately there are lots of clubs that don't | |||
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"I rarely drink at a club, and have seen a few d*unk people in various venues but it's always been dealt with swiftly and discreetly. Doesn't put me off attending clubs" Good the clubs you attend deal with it as it shows they are looking out for people and run their club professionally | |||
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"We see this status very often, well in the guise of getting prepared for a mega hangover. We don't like seeing people in this state at clubs. Not great to be like this when consent is top of the agenda at swinging clubs. We steer clear of folk in this state. Question is do these posts on club discussions put you off going to clubs that seem to promote this. Clubs often put in their rules that if you have had to much alcohol they will ask you to leave and then seem to encourage drinking to excess" The first time I ever went to a club (not the one I love going to now I want to make that clear) there was a couple going through the doors and they were hammered! At that point I thought “oh what happens if they do something in here they regret and were not in a position to have all their faculties about them?” It’s the last time I took alcoholic drinks to a club! People who know me know that if I see someone d*unk in a club i turn into “Sean the social worker” consent is a blurry enough line without alcohol also being involved! Besides nice enough non alcoholic wines beer and Guinness are available!!! | |||
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"OP, As I usually have to drive to clubs, I never drink alcohol. I get to really watch people. I much prefer people who make intelligent decisions. Someone who is hammered just isn't attractive, no matter how physically beautiful they may be. " I Mr B drives to clubs if we are staying in a Hotel not close. If I am not driving I might have a couple of cans of Guinness. Mrs F doesn't really drink, if she does fancy a tipple she does take a small bottle of Prosecco which holds 2 small glasses. We love people watching and we can pick out very early the people who are going to be very wobbly later in the night. It isn't a good look in a club at all. We started out going to a local club to us and seen quite a few people in this state and as a poster said just a few up we also decided we wouldn't be going back to that club and never have. Going to a club where you see it now and again is all part of life but to be in a club that has that kind of culture is a no from us | |||
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"Potentially controversial but.. We have on very rare occasions done exactly this. Booked a hotel room and planned to get d*unk…in the sense that it is similar to doing this at a pub (nye etc) admittedly rarely but we would rather do this in a swingers club than a vanilla? Pub/club On these occasions we don’t go to play but it gives us a chance to let off steam without pressure. We genuinely find people in clubs less pushy than vanilla venues" ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ We always have a drink, and more often than not we are a little pissed but the end of the night and we are cool with that. We go for a good time and find it’s much easier to have a good time in swinger clubs than venturing into town on a Saturday night. In your standard bars and clubs excessive alcohol tends to followed with arguments or even violence which I don’t tend to see in swinger venues. Yes we may be a little wobbly and some might think that’s not a good look, but we don’t really care. We are not out to impress anyone and are more than happy to wobble home without any play….our aim is to enjoy ourselves and we generally do | |||
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"Potentially controversial but.. We have on very rare occasions done exactly this. Booked a hotel room and planned to get d*unk…in the sense that it is similar to doing this at a pub (nye etc) admittedly rarely but we would rather do this in a swingers club than a vanilla? Pub/club On these occasions we don’t go to play but it gives us a chance to let off steam without pressure. We genuinely find people in clubs less pushy than vanilla venues ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ We always have a drink, and more often than not we are a little pissed but the end of the night and we are cool with that. We go for a good time and find it’s much easier to have a good time in swinger clubs than venturing into town on a Saturday night. In your standard bars and clubs excessive alcohol tends to followed with arguments or even violence which I don’t tend to see in swinger venues. Yes we may be a little wobbly and some might think that’s not a good look, but we don’t really care. We are not out to impress anyone and are more than happy to wobble home without any play….our aim is to enjoy ourselves and we generally do " I've said similar myself, the vibe in clubs is totally different, you don't seem to get the aggressive kind of d*unks that want to cause fights or trouble. Yes some people may get d*unk & maybe a lot more d*unk than expected or they should be BUT there doesn't seem to be the bad behaviour that you find in 'vanilla' kind of clubs | |||
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"We see this status very often, well in the guise of getting prepared for a mega hangover. We don't like seeing people in this state at clubs. Not great to be like this when consent is top of the agenda at swinging clubs. We steer clear of folk in this state. Question is do these posts on club discussions put you off going to clubs that seem to promote this. Clubs often put in their rules that if you have had to much alcohol they will ask you to leave and then seem to encourage drinking to excess" We’ve seen many of sloppy d*unks over period we have been going to clubs and events. I get sometimes you need a bit of Dutch courage but there is a difference between that and getting hammered. If you wanted to get blindo, get yourself out on the town | |||
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"I rarely drink at a club, and have seen a few d*unk people in various venues but it's always been dealt with swiftly and discreetly. Doesn't put me off attending clubs Good the clubs you attend deal with it as it shows they are looking out for people and run their club professionally " CJ has been running her place for a long time and hires decent staff, they take no shit | |||
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"I've worked in a few clubs and have quite happily refused someone more alcohol when they have d*unk too much. I have also had to look after a few pretty d*unk women and ensure they were safe. It's remarkable the amount of people who would try to get them to play in such a state but they wouldn't have been capable of giving sound consent at all. I've never really come across many overly d*unk men to be honest. Being a non drinker I don't really find d*unk people very attractive so wouldn't play with them at all. The most pushy people for me have always been quite d*unk women. " To be fair this is a risk factor, especially with very d*unk lone females. We have seen a sort of preditor behaviour from some couples and single guys trying to lead them off to rooms when it's clear their not in a good way (some people also come mentality in the wrong frame of mind for whatever reasons in their personal life), not quite with it and/or just not exactly giving the vibe they are really up for it. Its not to say you can't give consent d*unk. We're all adults and it's not about policing people's good times. However you know when something is just not right and when a vibe is all wrong. In those instances we and our freinds have found ourselves having to sort of step in and make sure they're safe. Obviously is someones determined to do something they will, but most of the time they'll come with you. Which in its self is a sign that they are in a state where they are suggestible, easily lead, not exactly of their own free will and thus probably not in the best place to give sound consent. | |||
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