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"What defence?" The abuse the couple were getting in their inbox/review section (why they started this topic) | |||
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"I don't think anyone should get abuse but I do wonder if sometimes I am going somewhere else. As I have always found the place clean and most of the people well dressed. Well expect when I pop in to the cinema at lunch time but as people are coming in during there lunch time I expect some dressed in work gear As to women in cardigans. I have never seen this. All the women at last event I was at.expect for the two ladies at the door. Were dressed sexy and in lingerie. I however only go to the cinema in the day and greedy girls nights I also don't have a problem with it's state. Yes it's maybe in need of a referb but from what I hear once the extension is finished the older part will get that I only get annoyed with reviews when it gets personal about those attending. As just because someone isn't to your liking I don't think you should slate them. I will recommend the attic to anyone that asks me as on my experiences I've yet to have a bad experience there. Can't fault the staff at all. Yes there are a few bits that are in progress but it's always kept clean. Cali" what cali said | |||
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"I totally agree with Cali. It is a very friendly club and I have never been stuck to the carpets. I may be barking up the wrong tree but I believe there may be a hidden agenda. I hope everyone enjoys their club nights, wherever they may be. Have fun! P.s. Would anyone like to swap knitting patterns?" Not sure there is a hidden agenda as my friend and I visited this club when we were staying in a hotel up that way, the scruffily dressed staff made me feel very uncomfortable about staying so if we were looking for somewhere to go, this wouldn't be on the list. And I wear cardigans, don't give a shit either, if I am wandering round and its cold, I put one on simple as that | |||
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"Personally and im sure no-on really cares anyway I would'nt want to go,for no reason other than the arguments that are always on the review page Thats sort of behaviour seems like nothing less than childish and its completely offputting tp me I wish the club well though but will keep out of all the agro that surrounds it " This. My knowledge of clubs is limited to those in the South and South East that we attend or have looked at attending, Chams (because everyone has heard of it), and The Attic. And the reason we know the attic is purely down to the utterly cringeworthy but not surprisingly infamous club reviews on here. Reading those is like rubbernecking the aftermath of a carcrash. I cannot believe that anyone reads those comments and still considers going! It's not the bad reviews that make me cringe and put me off - it's the inevitable spats that follow, the allegations of lying and of non attendence and the same people constantly posting fabulous reviews to counter the negativity. Those people may well be in the minority of those that attend but who would chose a night out around people like that? | |||
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"Personally and im sure no-on really cares anyway I would'nt want to go,for no reason other than the arguments that are always on the review page Thats sort of behaviour seems like nothing less than childish and its completely offputting tp me I wish the club well though but will keep out of all the agro that surrounds it This. My knowledge of clubs is limited to those in the South and South East that we attend or have looked at attending, Chams (because everyone has heard of it), and The Attic. And the reason we know the attic is purely down to the utterly cringeworthy but not surprisingly infamous club reviews on here. Reading those is like rubbernecking the aftermath of a carcrash. I cannot believe that anyone reads those comments and still considers going! It's not the bad reviews that make me cringe and put me off - it's the inevitable spats that follow, the allegations of lying and of non attendence and the same people constantly posting fabulous reviews to counter the negativity. Those people may well be in the minority of those that attend but who would chose a night out around people like that?" Oooo didnt know about all this. Sounds like a good read. Ill just go and make a brew and then settle down for a bit of entertainment... | |||
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" My knowledge of clubs is limited to those in the South and South East that we attend or have looked at attending, Chams (because everyone has heard of it), and The Attic. And the reason we know the attic is purely down to the utterly cringeworthy but not surprisingly infamous club reviews on here. Reading those is like rubbernecking the aftermath of a carcrash. I cannot believe that anyone reads those comments and still considers going! It's not the bad reviews that make me cringe and put me off - it's the inevitable spats that follow, the allegations of lying and of non attendence and the same people constantly posting fabulous reviews to counter the negativity. Those people may well be in the minority of those that attend but who would chose a night out around people like that?" there are certain clubs around the country that now have a notority for this.. the attic is one, one was so bad that they asked for the listing to be removed but they still operate... and it feels like that people have to stand up for "their club" regardless of the criticism large or small and slaughter them, and it certainly put me off visiting....... | |||
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"I don't think anyone should get abuse but I do wonder if sometimes I am going somewhere else. As I have always found the place clean and most of the people well dressed. Well expect when I pop in to the cinema at lunch time but as people are coming in during there lunch time I expect some dressed in work gear As to women in cardigans. I have never seen this. All the women at last event I was at.expect for the two ladies at the door. Were dressed sexy and in lingerie. I however only go to the cinema in the day and greedy girls nights I also don't have a problem with it's state. Yes it's maybe in need of a referb but from what I hear once the extension is finished the older part will get that I only get annoyed with reviews when it gets personal about those attending. As just because someone isn't to your liking I don't think you should slate them. I will recommend the attic to anyone that asks me as on my experiences I've yet to have a bad experience there. Can't fault the staff at all. Yes there are a few bits that are in progress but it's always kept clean. Cali what cali said " I agree. Same attitude here. Bored with the stupid playground antics from both sides of this argument personally. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, AVOID IT. It's not rocket science is it | |||
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"I'm not sure if much else evokes such a fervent defence than a swinging club. No matter how bad a club is and how terrible the nights are there are a legion of people ready to jump all over anyone ready to publicly give quite reasonable reasons for disliking the club. Chalk it up to experience, mark it down as one never to attend again and move on life is way to short to get into arguments over a club when there are so many good ones out there " yes that great you take the time to review a club YOU HAVE BEEN TO .and like we did the attic. so that other can see what you think of it. but then you get all the SHIT LIKE YOU WAS NEVER AT THE CLUB if you are now to swinging please please do not go it will put you of off swinging ,no just for this life but your next ten or maybe more. happy christmas and happy swinging | |||
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"I don't think anyone should get abuse but I do wonder if sometimes I am going somewhere else. As I have always found the place clean and most of the people well dressed. Well expect when I pop in to the cinema at lunch time but as people are coming in during there lunch time I expect some dressed in work gear As to women in cardigans. I have never seen this. All the women at last event I was at.expect for the two ladies at the door. Were dressed sexy and in lingerie. I however only go to the cinema in the day and greedy girls nights I also don't have a problem with it's state. Yes it's maybe in need of a referb but from what I hear once the extension is finished the older part will get that I only get annoyed with reviews when it gets personal about those attending. As just because someone isn't to your liking I don't think you should slate them. I will recommend the attic to anyone that asks me as on my experiences I've yet to have a bad experience there. Can't fault the staff at all. Yes there are a few bits that are in progress but it's always kept clean. Cali what cali said I agree. Same attitude here. Bored with the stupid playground antics from both sides of this argument personally. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, AVOID IT. It's not rocket science is it " Glad to read this:We will decide AFTER we tried the Club if its for us or not.....good company can make up for a lot of things | |||
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"we was there on the night this so called cpl went and can say without doubt they was not there that is y they got the hassle the club will b starting new things in the new year membership and id on door so this can not happen again and other improvements will be made we wish all a merry xmas and a happy new year from all the staff " As members of staff defending an allegation that your club is somewhat shoddy, don't you think you'd have created a better impression by exercising a bit more care about what you wrote and how you wrote it? A lack of attention to detail does nothing to help your cause. | |||
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"Thing is there's always going to be people you don't find attractive don't match your requirements lack personal hygene etc in every day life as well as cinemas and clubs all you have to do is give them a polite no ty and find someone else that does match your requirements " Everyone accepts that there will be people you don't find attractive and no one should ever complain about that. But are you seriously saying that poor personal hygiene at a swingers club is comparable and is no big deal? Seriously? I'm sorry the idea of being in a club where poor personal hygiene is tolerated is vile. | |||
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"Thing is there's always going to be people you don't find attractive don't match your requirements lack personal hygene etc in every day life as well as cinemas and clubs all you have to do is give them a polite no ty and find someone else that does match your requirements Everyone accepts that there will be people you don't find attractive and no one shouldever complain about that. But are you seriously saying that poor personal hygiene at a swingers club is comparable and is no big deal? Seriously? I'm sorry the idea of being in a club where poor personal hygiene is tolerated is vile." there's always the odd person your going to come across who dodges the soap but to insinuate that everyone that uses a place is unclean is absolute nonsense | |||
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" I agree. Same attitude here. Bored with the stupid playground antics from both sides of this argument personally. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, AVOID IT. It's not rocket science is it " I think if somewhere has to change its arrangements to better suit clientele, then the only way this can be effectively done is to take on board what people say, good or bad. To be honest, blokes would shag in a decaying nissen hut if they could get away with it. Certain levels of comfort and standards in presentation make people want to come back time after time. If something is lacking, people will say about it until it gets put right, or they move on to somewhere else that will provide what they are looking for. When all's said and done, a business that doesn't listen is doing itself out of money. It takes ages to win a customer and only seconds to lose one. It's certainly not rocket science, the big supermarkets manage it and are constantly learning from what their customers think. Wolf | |||
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".there's always the odd person your going to come across who dodges the soap but to insinuate that everyone that uses a place is unclean is absolute nonsense " Yeah see this is my thing. I am there often. And yes in the day sometimes there are guys nipping in from work on lunch. So yes sometimes they are in work clothes. However in all the times I've been I've only refused 4 guys for poor hygiene and I'm very particular about that There are some issues. I'm not going to pretend that the attic is perfect but I don't see the problems mentioned so often. However I guess it must be down to preferences. Or maybe even the people that go One thing I do disagree on is the club helpers and staff making some of the comments that are made It looks petty and unprofessional and think does more damage than the negative reviews. I know what it's like to feel threatened and get defensive but there are ways to say things. I also think hassling people that don't like the club is totally wrong. As that then leads to other people making snidy comments to defend their friends. I can not fault the staff there. | |||
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".there's always the odd person your going to come across who dodges the soap but to insinuate that everyone that uses a place is unclean is absolute nonsense Yeah see this is my thing. I am there often. And yes in the day sometimes there are guys nipping in from work on lunch. So yes sometimes they are in work clothes. However in all the times I've been I've only refused 4 guys for poor hygiene and I'm very particular about that There are some issues. I'm not going to pretend that the attic is perfect but I don't see the problems mentioned so often. However I guess it must be down to preferences. Or maybe even the people that go One thing I do disagree on is the club helpers and staff making some of the comments that are made It looks petty and unprofessional and think does more damage than the negative reviews. I know what it's like to feel threatened and get defensive but there are ways to say things. I also think hassling people that don't like the club is totally wrong. As that then leads to other people making snidy comments to defend their friends. I can not fault the staff there. " See we went in the evening and we can assure you we saw totally different things to you, if you read our review you will see we had our drink stolen, the clientelle were groping without asking and people were dressed scruffy. | |||
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"I was looking to go back to a club in the new year, however after reading the reviews of all the clubs it seems they all have their faults. I just want somewhere i can go chat to females couples any bugger that may listen to be honest and then who knows were it may lead. If you have any suggestions please drop me a email. I have been to chams in the distant past however i have heard a few disturbing comments about it recently. All the best Rob." You have Cams right on your doorstep. Its on our to do list but good friends have been loads and love it x | |||
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". See we went in the evening and we can assure you we saw totally different things to you, if you read our review you will see we had our drink stolen, the clientelle were groping without asking and people were dressed scruffy." I have heard about the drinks and think that they need to have it put out the way as simply people will take drinks . Wrong but in happens. I have noticed at many clubs that women seem to touch but actually at the attic as yet I've never been touched without asking. However most know who I am and think I scare some of them lol However I will say that I think that single guys on greedy girls nights tend to be better behaved. Or so it seems. I do know that just because I like a club doesn't mean everyone else will. I had been put me chameleons at one point as had two incidences of single guys trying to touch without permission. And I said so too. I do think though that personal comments about members shouldn't be aired. | |||
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"I totally agree with Cali. It is a very friendly club and I have never been stuck to the carpets. I may be barking up the wrong tree but I believe there may be a hidden agenda. I hope everyone enjoys their club nights, wherever they may be. Have fun! P.s. Would anyone like to swap knitting patterns?" Now THERE is a recommendation.... "I have never been stuck to the carpets" Makes us want to jump in the car and drive there right now | |||
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" One thing I do disagree on is the club helpers and staff making some of the comments that are made It looks petty and unprofessional and think does more damage than the negative reviews. I know what it's like to feel threatened and get defensive but there are ways to say things. I also think hassling people that don't like the club is totally wrong. As that then leads to other people making snidy comments to defend their friends. I can not fault the staff there. " I agree with this,whoever the people are that jump on every negative view of the club in an agressive way and there have been many as some of those comments are removed from the page as they are just attacks,they do the club no favours at all I also think that the style of reviews leave a lot to be desired,not so much positive critique giving ideas for improvement,but scathing nasty vehement slagging off,which includes personal comments about the clientel,There has never been a time that ive ever been in a club and found that everyone was the most perfect specimen of mankind and I doubt anyone else has either,thats just life and really nothing to do with the club or the facilities at all | |||
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"One thing I do disagree on is the club helpers and staff making some of the comments that are made It looks petty and unprofessional and think does more damage than the negative reviews. I know what it's like to feel threatened and get defensive but there are ways to say things. I also think hassling people that don't like the club is totally wrong. As that then leads to other people making snidy comments to defend their friends. I can not fault the staff there. " Yep. The reviews wont put me off going to the club but it will put me off meeting those people. | |||
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"Hey guys and girlies, What a shocker this dump really is - anyone else been., left a bad review then got abuse from the managment? Seriously avoid this place like the plague is back. It is dirty, smelly and full of ladies in bobbly wooly cardies and men in work clothing. Vile Vile and more vile. " its a joke we have been twice and left two bad reviews but like all the bad review they get taken off .this place is a shit hole .and fab should take it off the clubs page as its a joke same people reviewing week after week .had to bad review two weeks back about taking peoples money at 11pm and closing at 12 but was taken off. and we had all the abuse from staff and members if you are the type of person that loves it good luck and just keep going but when peoples reviews keep getting taken off that really gets to us . as for the new part being built they have been doing that some time now.lol but when you do not even have a website and do it on face book that should tell you a lot about the place.would never go back if it was the only club on earth.BUT THAT JUST US WE WOULD SAY READ THE REVIEWS BUT THATS A WASTE OF TIME | |||
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"Hey guys and girlies, What a shocker this dump really is - anyone else been., left a bad review then got abuse from the managment? Seriously avoid this place like the plague is back. It is dirty, smelly and full of ladies in bobbly wooly cardies and men in work clothing. Vile Vile and more vile. its a joke we have been twice and left two bad reviews but like all the bad review they get taken off .this place is a shit hole .and fab should take it off the clubs page as its a joke same people reviewing week after week .had to bad review two weeks back about taking peoples money at 11pm and closing at 12 but was taken off. and we had all the abuse from staff and members if you are the type of person that loves it good luck and just keep going but when peoples reviews keep getting taken off that really gets to us . as for the new part being built they have been doing that some time now.lol but when you do not even have a website and do it on face book that should tell you a lot about the place.would never go back if it was the only club on earth.BUT THAT JUST US WE WOULD SAY READ THE REVIEWS BUT THATS A WASTE OF TIME " It's not a dump at all. And attic staff do not have anything to do with reviews being taken off.. it's admin on fab that remove them. The new area got held up because people decided to try cause problems.. now finally it's nearly ready and it's truly going to be great. The new wet area is fantastic... And we have had a couple of amazing Friday nights down there. It's very clean and yes In places could no with a refurb but it's an old mill... So only so much that can be done. Website is currently being redone To show the new area... And I would and no recommend it to my friends and people I meet. Those I have tempted to get past the hate reviews have been very much impressed.. The improvements in the last 6 months have been amazing.. and I liked it before. Helpful welcoming staff, clean and welcoming.. and everything you need.. I go to lots of clubs and can honestly say I put this in my top 3. | |||
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" its a joke we have been twice and left two bad reviews but like all the bad review they get taken off " Postings are not taken off because they give a bad review - they are usually taken off because angry/irritated people often resort to insults and abuse to get their point across. Those posts are removed the same as they are elsewhere on the forums. | |||
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