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"A question for newbies to clubs. What is it that stops you making your first visit to a club? For us it was the worry that we wouldn't know the protocols. We worried we would stick out as newbies. It wasn't like that at all when we first went inside." cost of membership,, being just another single guy on his own,, being too old to get a possible invite to play,, think it would be like going into a toy shop and not being allowed to play with the toys | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " . Don't think that way. no one can impose anything on you, force anything or laugh at you. in case of such behavior, you report it to the service. | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " I understand same, Iv seen a few clubs from out side and a lot older people was coming out. I do wonder if many young couples or singles go. | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " In the right clubs you’ll find as a single woman you’ll be well looked after. I’ve gone alone and found people genuinely cared I was having a good time (with no agenda). I feel very safe at clubs. | |||
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" But it was very overwhelming with all the looks and everyone wanting to talk to me as I was new " The exact opposite of being a single guy in a club! It’s like Moses parting the waves…… | |||
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"Nothing about them seems like the kind of environment I'd want to have sex in" Same for us x | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " You’d be 100% safe I’m sure and if worries tell the club on entry and they will introduce you to some regulars to take you under there wing! As for being fresh meat and everyone wanting you well there are worse problems to have lol | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman In the right clubs you’ll find as a single woman you’ll be well looked after. I’ve gone alone and found people genuinely cared I was having a good time (with no agenda). I feel very safe at clubs. " Your right as a single women your much safer meeting there than a stranger somewhere alone | |||
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"A question for newbies to clubs. What is it that stops you making your first visit to a club? For us it was the worry that we wouldn't know the protocols. We worried we would stick out as newbies. It wasn't like that at all when we first went inside." Distance! We live in a rural part of the country, visiting a club requires planning a night away F (Mrs) | |||
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"We stick to couples and single women nights, we've found everyone to be great fun and polite and met some really funny interesting people. I think like most things you will only ever get out what you put in, we were like everyone else at first, nervous and not knowing what to expect, now we will happily approach people and talk to them. We see it as a night out even if nothing happens x" We totally agree, you get out what you put in x | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " If you go on a couples only night it's way less pressure. Single women are usually still allowed to attend them. | |||
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"As a single female I’m shy about approaching people or been rejected myself but I’m biting the bullet and going to a club at the weekend it’s a party night too so I’m just going all in and hoping for the best thought why not just go for it " You’ll be looked after, don’t worry. Single women are very much sought after in clubs | |||
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"As I crossdresser, im unsure if I would be welcome or find anyone to connect with. " Lots of clubs welcome cross dressers. Chams on a Monday is bi day/ night and often quite a few there | |||
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"As I crossdresser, im unsure if I would be welcome or find anyone to connect with. " The attic in derby Monday and Friday daytime is designated for TV/TS & CD. A few venture into Friday and Saturday nights. Check the website, give the club a call and ask for sammie-jo she'll give you all the info. | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " The first few times we went we were seen as fresh meat and we get it’s daunting. Clubs can be so much fun, but we have also heard stories from people about not feeling safe in the early days. We’d say choose your club wisely and choose an event that suits your interests. We don’t go to the club that’s closest to us all of the time our favourite club is a couple of hours drive from us. | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman The first few times we went we were seen as fresh meat and we get it’s daunting. Clubs can be so much fun, but we have also heard stories from people about not feeling safe in the early days. We’d say choose your club wisely and choose an event that suits your interests. We don’t go to the club that’s closest to us all of the time our favourite club is a couple of hours drive from us." Choosing your club wisely and the event is excellent advice. We are hosting a special night for Couples who are new to the club scene. It's called Vanilla To Vixen on Saturday 17th September. At Liberty Elite in Leicestershire. A special night where you can hang out with us and just relax and enjoy all the surroundings of this luxurious club x Mrs N | |||
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"Hi which clubs can we go and keep our clothes on please ? Thanks " There’s quite a few. The closest one to you may be Jaydees. Excellent club with great facilities, great hosts and staff and generally a great group of guys and gals who go there. We always enjoy our nights there. | |||
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"If you’re a single man and you arrive at a club then try to remember that those couples that you see have generally come along especially because it’s a single guys night. All you have to do is have the courage to approach them and make polite and maybe flirty conversation and you might just be the guy they’re looking for!" Absolutely spot on! When you are a couple at a mixed night, it is not easy to say hello to all of the guys. Come and say hello, talk to both of us, yes be flirty (maybe only with one of us!!) but don’t expect immediate action. Sometimes we might be up for it, other times we might want to think about it. We are essentially all there because we are at least interested in the prospect of having sex with others - if we manage to click, then it could be you! | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams " Sounds like good and honest advice | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams Sounds like good and honest advice " I think its an opinion, not sure about the advice bit. But we all have our own experiences - we’ve never had a bad night in a Club and have talked with many people | |||
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"Hi which clubs can we go and keep our clothes on please ? Thanks " Any! | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams Sounds like good and honest advice I think its an opinion, not sure about the advice bit. But we all have our own experiences - we’ve never had a bad night in a Club and have talked with many people " Bit of both. Though experiences for single guys is fairly universal - as it’s hard to shake off a bit of a stigma as a single guy. Couples are more approachable Single women more desirable Single guys are sometimes just walking cocks both figuratively and metaphorically and can be seen as desperate And as it’s very evident why they’re (we’re) there it can be ‘oddly off-putting’ hence why couples hook up with couples even though they’re there for the same thing the single guys are there for (a man with a woman apart less ‘desperate’ even though he can be just as much of a walking wanking zombie) | |||
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"We visited a club recently and found it wasn't for us. It was very clicky with regulars, we just felt uncomfortable. And the single guys were letching and following us around to the point where she didn't want to go to the ladies on her own ir was that bad. " In fairness that's a fair point! Our first experience would possibly have been a flop (no pun intended) if it hadn't been for a couple we recognised from here walking in.. The wanking dead we're a little off putting as well.. | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams Sounds like good and honest advice I think its an opinion, not sure about the advice bit. But we all have our own experiences - we’ve never had a bad night in a Club and have talked with many people " You're a couple though, and clubs are basically, for couples to meet other couples. I can relate to feeling like an outsider as a solo guy in clubs, witnessing the cliques, and getting bored to the point of leaving early. Of all the threads you'll read in the forum, about how friendly and welcoming people are (towards single guys), I've yet to meet any of these people in any club (but I've only been to 7) | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams Sounds like good and honest advice I think its an opinion, not sure about the advice bit. But we all have our own experiences - we’ve never had a bad night in a Club and have talked with many people You're a couple though, and clubs are basically, for couples to meet other couples. I can relate to feeling like an outsider as a solo guy in clubs, witnessing the cliques, and getting bored to the point of leaving early. Of all the threads you'll read in the forum, about how friendly and welcoming people are (towards single guys), I've yet to meet any of these people in any club (but I've only been to 7) " No they are not. You cant make that assumption about clubs or couples.. we for one arent lookimg for other couples. K | |||
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"Tbh the main draw for the wife in terms of clubs are the "wanking dead" as you call it. She loves that whole seedy feeling atmosphere. Saying that, we haven't visited one yet so our view isn't really worth anything ATM haha :D" understand what you mean by the wanking dead.. but a polite excuse me do you mimd. Usually works | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams Sounds like good and honest advice I think its an opinion, not sure about the advice bit. But we all have our own experiences - we’ve never had a bad night in a Club and have talked with many people You're a couple though, and clubs are basically, for couples to meet other couples. I can relate to feeling like an outsider as a solo guy in clubs, witnessing the cliques, and getting bored to the point of leaving early. Of all the threads you'll read in the forum, about how friendly and welcoming people are (towards single guys), I've yet to meet any of these people in any club (but I've only been to 7) No they are not. You cant make that assumption about clubs or couples.. we for one arent lookimg for other couples. K" It's not an assumption, it's based on my experiences of the club scene. I have shared great nights with couples, don't get me wrong, but I've received far more "We're not interested in single guys thanks", and precious few single women in a club.... | |||
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"Hi which clubs can we go and keep our clothes on please ? Thanks " One problem with 'keeping your clothes on' is that many other participants quite reasonably assume that you haven't taken a shower before entering the fray. Whilst wearing a towel is no absolute proof of showering, it is a better bet than looking like you have come straight from the car after a long sweaty drive with maybe a couple of unwashed piss stops on the way. | |||
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"Hi which clubs can we go and keep our clothes on please ? Thanks One problem with 'keeping your clothes on' is that many other participants quite reasonably assume that you haven't taken a shower before entering the fray. Whilst wearing a towel is no absolute proof of showering, it is a better bet than looking like you have come straight from the car after a long sweaty drive with maybe a couple of unwashed piss stops on the way." No they don't. There are many clubs where clothes stay on unti some may choose to take them off eg xtasia, the attic, amigos, townhouse, cupids many more | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams Sounds like good and honest advice I think its an opinion, not sure about the advice bit. But we all have our own experiences - we’ve never had a bad night in a Club and have talked with many people You're a couple though, and clubs are basically, for couples to meet other couples. I can relate to feeling like an outsider as a solo guy in clubs, witnessing the cliques, and getting bored to the point of leaving early. Of all the threads you'll read in the forum, about how friendly and welcoming people are (towards single guys), I've yet to meet any of these people in any club (but I've only been to 7) No they are not. You cant make that assumption about clubs or couples.. we for one arent lookimg for other couples. K It's not an assumption, it's based on my experiences of the club scene. I have shared great nights with couples, don't get me wrong, but I've received far more "We're not interested in single guys thanks", and precious few single women in a club.... " Youre obviously not attending the right club or on the right nights | |||
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"Having read all the posts we now thinking it's not for us to go to a club " Guys dont let what you read on here put you off. Everyone is just giving their own opinion. Go. See for yourselves if you dont like it then you can say youve tried .k | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman I understand same, Iv seen a few clubs from out side and a lot older people was coming out. I do wonder if many young couples or singles go. " Yes they do. | |||
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"Hi which clubs can we go and keep our clothes on please ? Thanks One problem with 'keeping your clothes on' is that many other participants quite reasonably assume that you haven't taken a shower before entering the fray. Whilst wearing a towel is no absolute proof of showering, it is a better bet than looking like you have come straight from the car after a long sweaty drive with maybe a couple of unwashed piss stops on the way. No they don't. There are many clubs where clothes stay on unti some may choose to take them off eg xtasia, the attic, amigos, townhouse, cupids many more " Nor, of course do people take their clothes off or have showers at pubs or night clubs where the hope of a quick shag in the toilets or behind the dustbins is always high in the hopes of certain attendees! | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " I've not been to all the swinger's clubs in the UK but of the ones I've been too I think you'll most likely be more safer there than a normal night club. | |||
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"A question for newbies to clubs. What is it that stops you making your first visit to a club? For us it was the worry that we wouldn't know the protocols. We worried we would stick out as newbies. It wasn't like that at all when we first went inside." Not having anyone to go with | |||
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" There are many clubs where clothes stay on unti some may choose to take them off eg xtasia, the attic, amigos, townhouse, cupids many more " Cupids is dress down on arrival | |||
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"As a single guy my first visit was a bit nerve wracking: I felt like an outsider, until I got into conversation with this guy who funnily enough made me realise that if I acted like him I would be ostracised all night. So I did the opposite and had much better luck. I then started to go to a particular night and became a bit of a face, was in the main clique (which single guys is unfortunately where you want to be as it’s like an automatic vetting for couples and single women). I then stopped going to this night returned after a year or so and found I was soo far out of the clique I was basically a newbie again. Recently I think the issue is the scene has changed greatly: it is more dominated by couples and also it’s much more of a social networking thing that you can run the risk of turning into a ‘wanking zombie’ also single guys get gouged by the entrance fees (‘ Single ladies: Free, Couples: £20 Single Guys: £50’) Lastly - I get bored easily. Soo I might take extended breaks from going and just go very Vanilla and have a nice quite drink with friends or stay at home with streams Sounds like good and honest advice I think its an opinion, not sure about the advice bit. But we all have our own experiences - we’ve never had a bad night in a Club and have talked with many people You're a couple though, and clubs are basically, for couples to meet other couples. I can relate to feeling like an outsider as a solo guy in clubs, witnessing the cliques, and getting bored to the point of leaving early. Of all the threads you'll read in the forum, about how friendly and welcoming people are (towards single guys), I've yet to meet any of these people in any club (but I've only been to 7) No they are not. You cant make that assumption about clubs or couples.. we for one arent lookimg for other couples. K It's not an assumption, it's based on my experiences of the club scene. I have shared great nights with couples, don't get me wrong, but I've received far more "We're not interested in single guys thanks", and precious few single women in a club.... Youre obviously not attending the right club or on the right nights" Yep, they all say that..… | |||
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"Doesn't stop us but restricts us - so many club events start relatively late and finish early hours or are during days when working. Need some starting at 6/7pm so playing by 8 and can go home at 11 It's tough being old fogeys " So agree with this!! We’ve been to 8 Clubs together which were all excellent and M has been to 6 more checking them out and we want to visit 4 of those together. All Clubs are different, all are interesting, none have ever been threatening, all have been welcoming. Some nights are better than others, but all are way better than a Pub night or a nightclub in our view - give Clubs a try | |||
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"Doesn't stop us but restricts us - so many club events start relatively late and finish early hours or are during days when working. Need some starting at 6/7pm so playing by 8 and can go home at 11 It's tough being old fogeys " I like Sundays at Quest 2-11pm. | |||
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"A question for newbies to clubs. What is it that stops you making your first visit to a club? For us it was the worry that we wouldn't know the protocols. We worried we would stick out as newbies. It wasn't like that at all when we first went inside. Not having anyone to go with" Most clubs let you know the rules and show you around. Lot of people go on their own. | |||
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"Doesn't stop us but restricts us - so many club events start relatively late and finish early hours or are during days when working. Need some starting at 6/7pm so playing by 8 and can go home at 11 It's tough being old fogeys " I'm trying to think of a club like that and I can't. This way clubs are open all day or at 7 and if a club has a host in for an event then it doesn't mean you can't go before that time. I've gone to chams early before and left before midnight. The start and finish times are for guidance I guess, you can arrive and leave when you wish. | |||
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"Doesn't stop us but restricts us - so many club events start relatively late and finish early hours or are during days when working. Need some starting at 6/7pm so playing by 8 and can go home at 11 It's tough being old fogeys I'm trying to think of a club like that and I can't. This way clubs are open all day or at 7 and if a club has a host in for an event then it doesn't mean you can't go before that time. I've gone to chams early before and left before midnight. The start and finish times are for guidance I guess, you can arrive and leave when you wish. " I think that varies club to club but lots are not like that and if you go early might be few around. Chams is one of past favourites but long way from us now. Wish it was closer. | |||
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"We've been concerned that a place might be too full-on for Hannah's comfort. We don't want to be confronted by people having sex at every turn. We want to be able to dip into that side of things when we want to and remove ourselves completely when we want a bit of space. " This is a misconception that most people from vanilla world have - that it is going to be like a scene from I Caligula. Nothing could be further from the truth. When you go into one of these clubs most people are just stood around, in various stages of dress or undress, chatting. People often say that such and such a club is cliquey. That is not necessarily the case. It may be that people have gone with a group of friends or that they have been going so often that they know a lot of people and not unnaturally one gravitates towards people that one knows. When we see people who are so obviously Newbies we make a point of going up to them and engaging them on conversation . | |||
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" They're cliquey. " See last part of our thread just above yours for our perspective. | |||
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" They're cliquey. See last part of our thread just above yours for our perspective. " Does that include single guys, given that your profile is geared away from them? | |||
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"We've been concerned that a place might be too full-on for Hannah's comfort. We don't want to be confronted by people having sex at every turn. We want to be able to dip into that side of things when we want to and remove ourselves completely when we want a bit of space. This is a misconception that most people from vanilla world have - that it is going to be like a scene from I Caligula. Nothing could be further from the truth. When you go into one of these clubs most people are just stood around, in various stages of dress or undress, chatting. People often say that such and such a club is cliquey. That is not necessarily the case. It may be that people have gone with a group of friends or that they have been going so often that they know a lot of people and not unnaturally one gravitates towards people that one knows. When we see people who are so obviously Newbies we make a point of going up to them and engaging them on conversation . " Spot on | |||
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"Goo as a single and not knowing why to do , normal is go to the bar and order a drink . Is it like that?…." It can be. | |||
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"I've been a few times with an old fwb a good while back. I'd never go as a single bloke. They're cliquey. Expensive, especially as a single bloke. Do you pretend to be a couple once in then? Because when I go it's mainly single men I'm looking for. " I've only ever gone as a couple so I didn't pretend to be a couple, we were one. You're 1 woman with the pick of the single blokes. It's Fab all over again regarding it being a numbers game. No thanks. I've also seen how SOME single blokes behave in clubs. Not all obviously, but a sizable percentage are morons. Although I'm 100% confident in my etiquette, however I'm not being lumped in with them just because of my gender. And I'll address the 'they're cliquey' comment as that always gets the biggest reaction. Funny that. I wonder why? So when I've been to a club, only 4 times, I went with a fwb. She was very gregarious, outgoing, would talk to anyone. I'm more reserved to begin with, but quietly confident, I certainly didn't have her personality for people schmoozing though. Because of her personality I ended up in the cliques by default, which made me a little uncomfortable, as I've always been an outsider and I like being an outsider. Within those cliques, I heard bitching, people looking down their noses at others, people being two faced, single blokes being seeing less worthy and I even overheard the owner of one of the clubs taking the piss out of a trans customer one time. Please don't misconstrue me. Clearly not everyone was like this and a lot of people were lovely, but there was definitely a 2 tier class system. 'Cool kids and the not so cool kids.' And I saw and heard enough from enough people to not go back, and after 7 or 8 years I still haven't. Just my observations and opinions. Your experiences maybe completely different to mine though. | |||
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"I've been a few times with an old fwb a good while back. I'd never go as a single bloke. They're cliquey. Expensive, especially as a single bloke. Do you pretend to be a couple once in then? Because when I go it's mainly single men I'm looking for. I've only ever gone as a couple so I didn't pretend to be a couple, we were one. You're 1 woman with the pick of the single blokes. It's Fab all over again regarding it being a numbers game. No thanks. I've also seen how SOME single blokes behave in clubs. Not all obviously, but a sizable percentage are morons. Although I'm 100% confident in my etiquette, however I'm not being lumped in with them just because of my gender. And I'll address the 'they're cliquey' comment as that always gets the biggest reaction. Funny that. I wonder why? So when I've been to a club, only 4 times, I went with a fwb. She was very gregarious, outgoing, would talk to anyone. I'm more reserved to begin with, but quietly confident, I certainly didn't have her personality for people schmoozing though. Because of her personality I ended up in the cliques by default, which made me a little uncomfortable, as I've always been an outsider and I like being an outsider. Within those cliques, I heard bitching, people looking down their noses at others, people being two faced, single blokes being seeing less worthy and I even overheard the owner of one of the clubs taking the piss out of a trans customer one time. Please don't misconstrue me. Clearly not everyone was like this and a lot of people were lovely, but there was definitely a 2 tier class system. 'Cool kids and the not so cool kids.' And I saw and heard enough from enough people to not go back, and after 7 or 8 years I still haven't. Just my observations and opinions. Your experiences maybe completely different to mine though. " Obviously not for you. Strange that we prefer to go out on a Friday night specifically as there are single men there. As do many other couples. At 60yrs old certainly wouldn't class ourselves as the 'cool kids' People will be people, don't think bitching in swing clubs would be any different at a regular night club or in the work place or anywhere else for that matter. It's not my role to be an advocate for clubs. We enjoy them and take it on board that it's not for everyone. Even though the stock answer we see posted on here for those looking to meet people is 'go to a club'! | |||
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"I've been a few times with an old fwb a good while back. I'd never go as a single bloke. They're cliquey. Expensive, especially as a single bloke. Do you pretend to be a couple once in then? Because when I go it's mainly single men I'm looking for. I've only ever gone as a couple so I didn't pretend to be a couple, we were one. You're 1 woman with the pick of the single blokes. It's Fab all over again regarding it being a numbers game. No thanks. I've also seen how SOME single blokes behave in clubs. Not all obviously, but a sizable percentage are morons. Although I'm 100% confident in my etiquette, however I'm not being lumped in with them just because of my gender. And I'll address the 'they're cliquey' comment as that always gets the biggest reaction. Funny that. I wonder why? So when I've been to a club, only 4 times, I went with a fwb. She was very gregarious, outgoing, would talk to anyone. I'm more reserved to begin with, but quietly confident, I certainly didn't have her personality for people schmoozing though. Because of her personality I ended up in the cliques by default, which made me a little uncomfortable, as I've always been an outsider and I like being an outsider. Within those cliques, I heard bitching, people looking down their noses at others, people being two faced, single blokes being seeing less worthy and I even overheard the owner of one of the clubs taking the piss out of a trans customer one time. Please don't misconstrue me. Clearly not everyone was like this and a lot of people were lovely, but there was definitely a 2 tier class system. 'Cool kids and the not so cool kids.' And I saw and heard enough from enough people to not go back, and after 7 or 8 years I still haven't. Just my observations and opinions. Your experiences maybe completely different to mine though. Obviously not for you. Strange that we prefer to go out on a Friday night specifically as there are single men there. As do many other couples. At 60yrs old certainly wouldn't class ourselves as the 'cool kids' People will be people, don't think bitching in swing clubs would be any different at a regular night club or in the work place or anywhere else for that matter. It's not my role to be an advocate for clubs. We enjoy them and take it on board that it's not for everyone. Even though the stock answer we see posted on here for those looking to meet people is 'go to a club'!" You're right, obviously not for me. Comments like that just reaffirm my belief. But thanks for letting me know what is or isn't right for me | |||
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"I used to go to the clubs but haven't been for a while. My observations were that these clubs largely cater for couples looking for other couples, and for the single men like me the competition is fierce. The single man has to be exceptional to stand a chance. I did from time to time go with a lady who was new and the dynamic was very different. I nearly had sex with not just my Indian lady but also with her single Bangladeshi woman friend!! ?? " clubs are not always about sex it's just nice to go & mix with other people socially | |||
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"You're right, obviously not for me. Comments like that just reaffirm my belief. But thanks for letting me know what is or isn't right for me The fact you said you'd not been back in 8yrs and seem like no intentions hence my colloquial response is that you are not interested in visiting a club again. Not sure how you can say my comment was a reaffirmation. I told you my views just as you had stated yours. I wasn't saying what is right or wrong for you; you'd done that yourself." Okay I don't like them because they're cliquey, which they are. Expensive, especially for single blokes, which they are. And they're not really geared up for single blokes in terms they're at the bottom of the pecking order, which they are. Which is absolutely fine as well. It's always a choice to go or not. Those 3 points are my original points why I don't go to clubs, which was what the original post was about wasnt it? But for some reason I'm being questioned on my reasons by a single women and couples where clubs are specifically catered for them. You're seeing the club experience from your eyes as a couple or single women. Erm you know, the cliques! | |||
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"You're right, obviously not for me. Comments like that just reaffirm my belief. But thanks for letting me know what is or isn't right for me The fact you said you'd not been back in 8yrs and seem like no intentions hence my colloquial response is that you are not interested in visiting a club again. Not sure how you can say my comment was a reaffirmation. I told you my views just as you had stated yours. I wasn't saying what is right or wrong for you; you'd done that yourself. Okay I don't like them because they're cliquey, which they are. Expensive, especially for single blokes, which they are. And they're not really geared up for single blokes in terms they're at the bottom of the pecking order, which they are. Which is absolutely fine as well. It's always a choice to go or not. Those 3 points are my original points why I don't go to clubs, which was what the original post was about wasnt it? But for some reason I'm being questioned on my reasons by a single women and couples where clubs are specifically catered for them. You're seeing the club experience from your eyes as a couple or single women. Erm you know, the cliques!" Guess men must be in the "cliques" (group of people who know each other or talk) because like pointed out people go on a Friday for single men so hardly at the bottom of the pecking order on those nights. | |||
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"You're right, obviously not for me. Comments like that just reaffirm my belief. But thanks for letting me know what is or isn't right for me The fact you said you'd not been back in 8yrs and seem like no intentions hence my colloquial response is that you are not interested in visiting a club again. Not sure how you can say my comment was a reaffirmation. I told you my views just as you had stated yours. I wasn't saying what is right or wrong for you; you'd done that yourself. Okay I don't like them because they're cliquey, which they are. Expensive, especially for single blokes, which they are. And they're not really geared up for single blokes in terms they're at the bottom of the pecking order, which they are. Which is absolutely fine as well. It's always a choice to go or not. Those 3 points are my original points why I don't go to clubs, which was what the original post was about wasnt it? But for some reason I'm being questioned on my reasons by a single women and couples where clubs are specifically catered for them. You're seeing the club experience from your eyes as a couple or single women. Erm you know, the cliques! Guess men must be in the "cliques" (group of people who know each other or talk) because like pointed out people go on a Friday for single men so hardly at the bottom of the pecking order on those nights. " The entry prices suggest otherwise. And yeah, the men might be in there cliques too. | |||
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"You're right, obviously not for me. Comments like that just reaffirm my belief. But thanks for letting me know what is or isn't right for me The fact you said you'd not been back in 8yrs and seem like no intentions hence my colloquial response is that you are not interested in visiting a club again. Not sure how you can say my comment was a reaffirmation. I told you my views just as you had stated yours. I wasn't saying what is right or wrong for you; you'd done that yourself. Okay I don't like them because they're cliquey, which they are. Expensive, especially for single blokes, which they are. And they're not really geared up for single blokes in terms they're at the bottom of the pecking order, which they are. Which is absolutely fine as well. It's always a choice to go or not. Those 3 points are my original points why I don't go to clubs, which was what the original post was about wasnt it? But for some reason I'm being questioned on my reasons by a single women and couples where clubs are specifically catered for them. You're seeing the club experience from your eyes as a couple or single women. Erm you know, the cliques! Guess men must be in the "cliques" (group of people who know each other or talk) because like pointed out people go on a Friday for single men so hardly at the bottom of the pecking order on those nights. The entry prices suggest otherwise. And yeah, the men might be in there cliques too." Their* | |||
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"You're right, obviously not for me. Comments like that just reaffirm my belief. But thanks for letting me know what is or isn't right for me The fact you said you'd not been back in 8yrs and seem like no intentions hence my colloquial response is that you are not interested in visiting a club again. Not sure how you can say my comment was a reaffirmation. I told you my views just as you had stated yours. I wasn't saying what is right or wrong for you; you'd done that yourself. Okay I don't like them because they're cliquey, which they are. Expensive, especially for single blokes, which they are. And they're not really geared up for single blokes in terms they're at the bottom of the pecking order, which they are. Which is absolutely fine as well. It's always a choice to go or not. Those 3 points are my original points why I don't go to clubs, which was what the original post was about wasnt it? But for some reason I'm being questioned on my reasons by a single women and couples where clubs are specifically catered for them. You're seeing the club experience from your eyes as a couple or single women. Erm you know, the cliques! Guess men must be in the "cliques" (group of people who know each other or talk) because like pointed out people go on a Friday for single men so hardly at the bottom of the pecking order on those nights. The entry prices suggest otherwise. And yeah, the men might be in there cliques too. Their*" My reasons for not going are my reasons. Why is that an issue for some people? Wasn't what this thread is initially about. What stops people going to clubs? | |||
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"I went to a club on my own within 2 weeks of first joinin fab but i was in male mode as the club wudnt let tvs in. I thought jump straight in feet first i didnt no a single person there out of about 120 people lol. Had 1 of best nights ever in fab i dont believe in just sitting there looking lost so i went round lots of people speaking to them and ended up being invitied in to join a couple of couples " Genuinely glad you had a great time. Without wanting to make assumptions, but going off from what you say, you're personality comes across as very outgoing, which would make it easier in those situations. I'm a little more reserved initially, so I don't just tend to talk to people I don't know. | |||
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"Hmmmmm Interesting read. I’ve been to a few of the more well known Clubs. It’s pretty daunting as a Trans person. I have had all sorts of trouble from all sorts of people in my life whilst socialising. Bars. Clubs. Etc. I’ve been attacked a couple of times. Threatened a lot. Verbally abused regularly. But. Things are getting better. And. I’ve found Swingers Clubs to be open minded and accepting. (On the whole). There are exceptions of course. My point, and sorry for the rambling thoughts of a T Human is that Once I’m in a Club and I feel comfortable - I just get on with it. I sit and watch. And go and chat. And laugh. And join in. And invariably have a great time. I don’t notice cliques because I just go and sit in the middle of them. I would encourage anyone to go. The people watching and social possibilities are amazing. And anything more is a bonus. Life is too short. I’m reminded of that a lot unfortunately. So go. Try it. Now. " It's great that people of all walks of life can feel comfortable in those surroundings. My personality doesn't allow me to be that forward with groups of people, so as a single bloke and with the way I am as a person, I wouldn't be comfortable personally. Clubs are cliquey. And yes as people have pointed out, cliques exist everywhere. However I'm very used going to a pub, nightclub, work, the football, or wherever. Swinging clubs are a whole different thing, so with added stress of having to break the cliques, it's not for me. And we're missing the point of this thread. It's not do you enjoy clubs? It's why wouldn't you go to a club? And bizarrely, my reasons for not going are being questioned as if my reasons which are personal to me are wrong. | |||
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"Each to their own of course. I’m just saying that if you can’t cope with the pressure of trying to be sociable in a Swingers Club - then it’s obviously not for you. But I and many others I’ve spoken to find them very relaxed and much easier to socialise in than many other life options. I’m just trying to encourage people to go and try as I think on the whole once you go you’ll love it. Love to all. " I've been to clubs a few times as stated in my previous comments. And I may again one day but only as couple, never as a single bloke. Which what my initial post was about. I then listed 3 reasons as to why. Then I don't know why, I'm being questioned on those reasons. | |||
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"Hey For us its the dress down element of a club. Most of the clubs in the North west/North East area are dress down. We like to get dressed up for the night and look good, don't want to get there and strip off xx" I totally understand this. We love dressing up to go to our favourite club Liberty Elite | |||
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"A question for newbies to clubs. What is it that stops you making your first visit to a club? For us it was the worry that we wouldn't know the protocols. We worried we would stick out as newbies. It wasn't like that at all when we first went inside." It’s the best part of 2 hours travel to get to one. Rarely any single women in. Lukewarm reception for being a single guy. | |||
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"Hey For us its the dress down element of a club. Most of the clubs in the North west/North East area are dress down. We like to get dressed up for the night and look good, don't want to get there and strip off xx" Both Quest and Pandora's Leeds you can stay dressed in the bar | |||
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"Hey For us its the dress down element of a club. Most of the clubs in the North west/North East area are dress down. We like to get dressed up for the night and look good, don't want to get there and strip off xx I totally understand this. We love dressing up to go to our favourite club Liberty Elite " Guess we are fortunate that we have the best of both as of the two clubs we prefer to go to one is dress down and the other is dress up; happy days! Heard good things about Liberty Elite so hopefully will get there one day. | |||
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"Hey For us its the dress down element of a club. Most of the clubs in the North west/North East area are dress down. We like to get dressed up for the night and look good, don't want to get there and strip off xx" Neither club play or infusions in Blackpool are dress down clubs | |||
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" Yes it does. Although our profile states not looking for single guys, the operative word is “Looking”. We will and do play with single guys at clubs and parties if the situation and circumstances are right. However we are not specifically looking to Meet single guys. They're cliquey. See last part of our thread just above yours for our perspective. Does that include single guys, given that your profile is geared away from them?" | |||
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"I would stand in my underwear in a swingers club and talk to like minded people with something in common. Than stand in a normal pub or club fully dressed trying to strike up conversation with nothing to go on. Swingers clubs make me feel at ease like I have found somewhere that I belong. " There’s no better ‘club’ than the rugby family. I’ve travelled all around the North West and North East, chatting to complete strangers in the stands and the bar, sharing a common interest, and always in good humour. I always feel welcome in a rugby club, whereas there’s always a feeling of mistrust being a single guy in a swinger club…. | |||
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"I would stand in my underwear in a swingers club and talk to like minded people with something in common. Than stand in a normal pub or club fully dressed trying to strike up conversation with nothing to go on. Swingers clubs make me feel at ease like I have found somewhere that I belong. There’s no better ‘club’ than the rugby family. I’ve travelled all around the North West and North East, chatting to complete strangers in the stands and the bar, sharing a common interest, and always in good humour. I always feel welcome in a rugby club, whereas there’s always a feeling of mistrust being a single guy in a swinger club…. " Honestly? If in seven clubs you have felt this way in all of them, the problem is likely with you, not the club. I reckon you’re going in expecting to have a hard time - or hoping to get the warm welcome you get in a rugby club, and being disappointed because NOBODY welcomes like the rugby family do - and people are picking up on that? | |||
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"I would stand in my underwear in a swingers club and talk to like minded people with something in common. Than stand in a normal pub or club fully dressed trying to strike up conversation with nothing to go on. Swingers clubs make me feel at ease like I have found somewhere that I belong. There’s no better ‘club’ than the rugby family. I’ve travelled all around the North West and North East, chatting to complete strangers in the stands and the bar, sharing a common interest, and always in good humour. I always feel welcome in a rugby club, whereas there’s always a feeling of mistrust being a single guy in a swinger club…. Honestly? If in seven clubs you have felt this way in all of them, the problem is likely with you, not the club. I reckon you’re going in expecting to have a hard time - or hoping to get the warm welcome you get in a rugby club, and being disappointed because NOBODY welcomes like the rugby family do - and people are picking up on that? " Not every time, and not in all of them. I went to Club f 5 times, and three of those were some of my best clubs experiences as a single guy! But two nights it felt like I was wearing Harry Potter’s cloak of invisibility. It all depends on who is in when you are, as you only need one person to chat with, to feel included. I can generally last about two hours in my own company, so if I’m not feeling any interest from others (catching eyes, reading body language, etc), I’m out of there. I can’t help comparing to visiting as a couple though, when it’s always been a positive night, and I’m the same person by myself, or in the company of a female… | |||
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"If it’s a couples only night we don’t bother. We like the single guys being allowed in. Some single guys don’t know what to expect or how to behave appropriately sure but enough do. Wheat from the chaff and all that. The same can be said for couples and females not behaving appropriately. Other than some men following people I've never seen any other poor behaviour from men. But abuse, arguments, touching without asking etc has been seen from couples and females. " Most of the pissed up antics that we’ve witnessed have been from couples. | |||
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"If it’s a couples only night we don’t bother. We like the single guys being allowed in. Some single guys don’t know what to expect or how to behave appropriately sure but enough do. Wheat from the chaff and all that. The same can be said for couples and females not behaving appropriately. Other than some men following people I've never seen any other poor behaviour from men. But abuse, arguments, touching without asking etc has been seen from couples and females. Most of the pissed up antics that we’ve witnessed have been from couples. " With so many couples liking the single guys can't understand how come they aren't feeling the love (so to speak) | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman The first few times we went we were seen as fresh meat and we get it’s daunting. Clubs can be so much fun, but we have also heard stories from people about not feeling safe in the early days. We’d say choose your club wisely and choose an event that suits your interests. We don’t go to the club that’s closest to us all of the time our favourite club is a couple of hours drive from us." What club is that | |||
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"A question for newbies to clubs. What is it that stops you making your first visit to a club? For us it was the worry that we wouldn't know the protocols. We worried we would stick out as newbies. It wasn't like that at all when we first went inside. Not having anyone to go with" Surely there would be a que of men offering to escort you to a club and even pay for a hotel room for the night and drive you to and throw of you asked the question on fab? | |||
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"For us it was the lack of wanting guys to try it on straight away or for men be too pushy despite no interest being shown from us" Tbh even tho my wife don’t play I’m surprised that she never gets chatted up either you’d think guys would be trying to talk to us, maybe the single men want us to go to them? | |||
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"Doesn't stop us but restricts us - so many club events start relatively late and finish early hours or are during days when working. Need some starting at 6/7pm so playing by 8 and can go home at 11 It's tough being old fogeys So agree with this!! Also agree we are not massive late night people and also why do they only play rave music to a audience mainly in there 40/50/60s We’ve been to 8 Clubs together which were all excellent and M has been to 6 more checking them out and we want to visit 4 of those together. All Clubs are different, all are interesting, none have ever been threatening, all have been welcoming. Some nights are better than others, but all are way better than a Pub night or a nightclub in our view - give Clubs a try " | |||
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""Not having anyone to go with" Surely there would be a que of men offering to escort you to a club and even pay for a hotel room for the night and drive you to and throw of you asked the question on fab? " If I was a woman, there is no way I would go to a club with a man I didn't know and trust. No way I would be dependent on a stranger for getting home. And absolutely no chance of sharing a hotel room with him. | |||
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""Not having anyone to go with" Surely there would be a que of men offering to escort you to a club and even pay for a hotel room for the night and drive you to and throw of you asked the question on fab? If I was a woman, there is no way I would go to a club with a man I didn't know and trust. No way I would be dependent on a stranger for getting home. And absolutely no chance of sharing a hotel room with him." Why not? Not all men are monsters. So its ok for a guy to go to hotels etc with a strange women but not a women to go with a strange guy? Not much equality in that. | |||
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""Not having anyone to go with" Surely there would be a que of men offering to escort you to a club and even pay for a hotel room for the night and drive you to and throw of you asked the question on fab? If I was a woman, there is no way I would go to a club with a man I didn't know and trust. No way I would be dependent on a stranger for getting home. And absolutely no chance of sharing a hotel room with him. Why not? Not all men are monsters. So its ok for a guy to go to hotels etc with a strange women but not a women to go with a strange guy? Not much equality in that." Is this a serious reply! Honestly what a bad comment to make! Not all guys are monsters no but some are and it’s a much bigger risk for a women to make than a guy surely! There is no equality to question when it comes to safety! | |||
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""Not having anyone to go with" Surely there would be a que of men offering to escort you to a club and even pay for a hotel room for the night and drive you to and throw of you asked the question on fab? If I was a woman, there is no way I would go to a club with a man I didn't know and trust. No way I would be dependent on a stranger for getting home. And absolutely no chance of sharing a hotel room with him." I agree | |||
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""Not having anyone to go with" Surely there would be a que of men offering to escort you to a club and even pay for a hotel room for the night and drive you to and throw of you asked the question on fab? If I was a woman, there is no way I would go to a club with a man I didn't know and trust. No way I would be dependent on a stranger for getting home. And absolutely no chance of sharing a hotel room with him." | |||
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"Covid and fuel/accommodation costs. " You have townhouse on your doorstep.... lucky!!!! | |||
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"A question for newbies to clubs. What is it that stops you making your first visit to a club? For us it was the worry that we wouldn't know the protocols. We worried we would stick out as newbies. It wasn't like that at all when we first went inside. Not having anyone to go with Surely there would be a que of men offering to escort you to a club and even pay for a hotel room for the night and drive you to and throw of you asked the question on fab? " No surprisingly every man I ask isn't into them. Never been, don't want to try. And as soon as I mention anything in a status update I instantly get messages, I wouldn't go to a club again with a new guy, needs to be someone I've got to know and can trust, have a connection with and who also enjoys the scene. There's too many men on here wanting one night stands. And I agree not safe for hotel meets. | |||
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"Covid and fuel/accommodation costs. " Townhouse is in your area! I'd love to have that as my local! | |||
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"My age! I’m scared I’ll be seen as young fresh meat and won’t feel safe, especially as a single woman " Women have all the power in a club - to Be sure talk to other ladies and they will guide / advise you - everyone was a newbie once - you only go as far as your comfortable with - simple I’m very new but I found it liberating and exhilarating- I introduced myself as a newbie and was guided gently and gracefully Trust me - it’s just as hard for newbie men ! | |||
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