FabSwingers.com forum: Financial exploitation of single guys !

By *redj OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Ok so some will think it’s justified, why do the majority of clubs and party events feel the need to financially exploit the single guy ?? If you as a single guy have ever taken out membership, attended a party or club you will in the main have been financially exploited compared to couples and single females ! Is there a valid reason for this

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think that there should be equality in life. Some clubs have moved against the discrimination by levelling things.

There are other ways of controlling ratios, if that's the justification.

Each little thing in life that we tolerate that's not on an equal footing, is tacit agreement to not having equality in this world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The women are sex bait so they pay less. The men want sex so they will pay much more for the possibility of sex, to keep the club in business.

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By *redj OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

"The women are sex bait so they pay less. The men want sex so they will pay much more for the possibility of sex, to keep the club in business.

But surely men are sex bait too ?

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

I keep having that discussion with my partner, and each time we agree to disagree.

Yes, some swingers clubs do charge men more than couples or single ladies while providing exactly the same facilities for everyone. However, this is to do with the demand and with the way different genders see casual sex. Men would pay (almost) any money if there is even a hint of a potential they might get their dicks wet. Women aren't usually that desperate for a fuck. Also, as the society still ostracise women who engage in casual sex by calling them all sorts of names, fewer women are likely to visit a swingers club.

Think about it in comparison to hairdressing services: men go in looking unkempt, pay a tenner or so, come out looking totally different. Women go in, pay through the nose and most of the time come out looking very much the same as when they went in. Where's equality here?

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By *redj OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Time !! The comparison there

most men are in and out in minutes at a barbers, come to think of it they should be cheaper in clubs then

hahaha

So because in both comparison scenarios we’re willing to pay more is it right we should be exploited ??

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By *ressed4fun03TV/TS
over a year ago

Midlands

I dont mind popping a frock on to save a few quid

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By *redj OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

"I dont mind popping a frock on to save a few quid

Hahaha

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By *a_fun_30_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle

I think the term “financially exploited” is a bit strong here really. It’s supply and demand. Clubs want to attract more women and couples because it’s better for business, so they pay less. It creates the atmosphere they want. It’s better for them and I assume better for you as a heterosexual man - you probably wouldn’t be in a rush to come back if it was just full of other heterosexual males.

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By *redj OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

"I think the term “financially exploited” is a bit strong here really. It’s supply and demand. Clubs want to attract more women and couples because it’s better for business, so they pay less. It creates the atmosphere they want. It’s better for them and I assume better for you as a heterosexual man - you probably wouldn’t be in a rush to come back if it was just full of other heterosexual males. "

Ahhh so clubs are not trying to attract the single male and by getting them to pay more they’ll deter them ?? Not sure the hetrosexual females and couples would agree !

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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

If you think it is so terrible then open your own club charge men / women / couples the same amount and see how successful your club is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont mind popping a frock on to save a few quid

I'd never go that far!

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By *redj OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

If you think it is so terrible then open your own club charge men / women / couples the same amount and see how successful your club is."

If i had the finances to do it i would

so that makes it right that men pay 2-3 times more ? Lets see how successful the club in swindon are as they seem to have adopted an equality policy

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By *a_fun_30_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle

Ahhh so clubs are not trying to attract the single male and by getting them to pay more they’ll deter them ?? Not sure the hetrosexual females and couples would agree ! "

Not really sure what point you’re trying to make here. It’s about balance. A club with a higher proportion of couples and single females will be more successful than a club with a higher proportion of single guys. Asking couples and females to pay less lowers their barrier to entry and attracts them to visit regularly. It’s one of the ways to try to influence that balance. Similar to clubs running nights where single guys aren’t allowed to attend or having specific areas of the club or certain rooms that are couples only.

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By *nnejohn469Couple
over a year ago

Wanstead, London

Supply and demand....

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

This, basic supply and demand economics means there is a different price point for men than for women and couples. Mostly the clubs get the price point right, and the result is the right balance of genders. I have no complaints. In the right clubs, I always have a good time and feel its value for money.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

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By *redj OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Ahhh so clubs are not trying to attract the single male and by getting them to pay more they’ll deter them ?? Not sure the hetrosexual females and couples would agree !

I’m all for a good balance and totally agree with limiting entry of excessive single men, some clubs do have couples only areas but is that not because they allow more single men in for the financial gain and to not overwhelm the couples and single females and put them off from attending (I don’t always attend as a single guy) so if there is a good balance in the ratio why do men have to pay extortionate entry fees ??

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By *erverseintentionsMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

I think I might identify as a woman when it comes to paying club fees .

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Have a look at all the other threads already on here about this.

Then study the basic economic principle of supply and demand.

Then swallow a 'Little Book of Calm'

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By *a_fun_30_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle

Ahhh so clubs are not trying to attract the single male and by getting them to pay more they’ll deter them ?? Not sure the hetrosexual females and couples would agree !

In our experience it’s not one or the other. It’s a mix to keep the atmosphere the clubs want. Regardless of if you agree, clubs are more successful by having more couples and females attend regularly. They make the environment as attractive to those groups as they can. That means charging them less amongst other things such as limiting numbers. The reason some clubs also have areas that single guys can’t go or whole events where they can’t attend is because they understand that some couples are completely turned off at the prospect of engaging with single guys. Clubs try to cater more to their needs because they want to attract them in greater numbers. Single guys are less desirable in large numbers so they pay a premium. It’s nothing personal. It’s just business.

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By *a_fun_30_coupleCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Have a look at all the other threads already on here about this.

Then study the basic economic principle of supply and demand.

Then swallow a 'Little Book of Calm'

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

Ahhh so clubs are not trying to attract the single male and by getting them to pay more they’ll deter them ?? Not sure the hetrosexual females and couples would agree ! "

Simply put, clubs don't need to try and attract single men, at least not by the means of financial gain. They attract single men just by the fact they have women and couples coming in. If there are too many single men in a club, ladies and couples may choose to stop going there as that's not what they are looking for. And then, if there are no ladies and couples in the club, the men would eventually stop coming, too.

Therefore, clubs that want to be successful on the scene, need to have means of attracting said women and couples. Men would come anyway, and pay any price (nearly).

If it bothers you so much, OP, you have two choices:

A) don't go to swingers clubs

B) look for clubs or parties that have a more equal entry fees.

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By *urvyandsnapperCouple
over a year ago

Essex/Kent

We won’t name the club but heard a tale from friends recently of a club that has started charging variable rates for single guys on the night - depending on how attractive (or otherwise) they are…

Not sure that’s in line with the spirit of this life - if true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone doesn't like something they can simply refrain from partaking.

As others have said, simple supply/demand.

If, as a business, you would still make lots of money despite hiking up certain admission fees as the demand is there, why wouldn't you..? Would be foolish not to.

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By *uto564Man
over a year ago

Widnes

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By *uto564Man
over a year ago

Widnes

"I keep having that discussion with my partner, and each time we agree to disagree.

Very true

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By *iraelWoman
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"Have a look at all the other threads already on here about this.

Then study the basic economic principle of supply and demand.

Then swallow a 'Little Book of Calm'

(Not directly related to the thread, but I just started watching Black Books again)

I go to Chams on a Friday because I want to meet single guys. Yes, they charge more for membership and entry for single guys than they do for single women.

Sometimes there are guestlist party nights where you don’t have to be a member, and a whole flood of single guys will turn up and chance it.

These unfortunately are often the nights where I have to practice dodging guys who won’t take no for an answer and think that if they ask again 15mins later I’ll say yes.

Give me the guys who accept that they (for once) have to pay a bit more to wander about in a towel than I have to pay to wander about in expensive lingerie.

Not the guys who think they should be guaranteed a shag because of how much they’ve paid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's supply/demand as many others have mentioned above. If it bothers you so much, there is another way to look at it. The default rate at the club is what single men pay. In order to attract women/couples who are much less in numbers, they are given a discount. So it's discount for women/couples and not exploitation of single men.

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By *uto564Man
over a year ago

Widnes

When me and my partner go to clubs, we go to use the facilities that they have on offer and enjoy ourselves… if we end up playing that’s a bonus… I have been to a club with a mate and tbh had a different agenda as I was a single guy at the time……

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's supply/demand as many others have mentioned above. If it bothers you so much, there is another way to look at it. The default rate at the club is what single men pay. In order to attract women/couples who are much less in numbers, they are given a discount. So it's discount for women/couples and not exploitation of single men."

Exactly this! The default rate would be what the men pay so if you want everyone to pay the same, the result would be women and couples paying more and potentially fewer attending.

The fact is it’s definitely not exploitation because everything is clear and up front. If you turned up at the club completely unaware and were then charged more than the person in front because you either looked desperate or like you can afford more, that would be exploitation but in this instance you can see in advance what you and others have to pay and get to decide if it’s worth it to you at that price. If it isn’t then don’t go, if it is then don’t moan.

Is it “fair” no probably not….. but then what the hell in life is fair!

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By *LundunCplCouple
over a year ago

london

I just love your analogy

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Most fetish events use non gendered pricing structures.

However, there is typically a low chance of pick up play happening, so single people are limited to watching only.

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By *y favourite knickersCouple
over a year ago

doncaster

Straightforward supply and demand.

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By *n With LifeCouple
over a year ago

Hadley Wood

Single men whinging about paying has been a theme on this forum over and over again.

Often they think paying for entry gives them a right to sex.

Nobody forces them to go to clubs and in case the OP hasn’t noticed it’s rare that there are more single women at clubs than men despite the price differential.

Yes if clubs were flooded with women getting in on the cheap there might be a case for charging them more. Having said that most single men would welcome more single women attending!

Life isn't fair for either sex. C’est la vie!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

But it wouldn't be legally permitted, if the clubs were almost all other types of business. They benefit, perhaps, from the loophole that exempted private clubs from equality legislation.

Allowing discrimination to continue is pernicious, for society. We should call it out and end it. I say that as someone who benefits financially from this discrimination and who would struggle to pay much more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clubs would be overrun with single men thinking they can get a quick shag if prices were lowered. Clubs would be like the real life equivalent of fab.

Up the prices for couples and single ladies and less would attend.

It’s a catch 22 really but there’s always the option of not going if you’re not happy with the pricing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On a slightly different note how would you get more ladies attending clubs? It's already cheaper or even free in some cases....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But it wouldn't be legally permitted, if the clubs were almost all other types of business. They benefit, perhaps, from the loophole that exempted private clubs from equality legislation.

Equality in this case will be achieved by increasing fee for couple and women and not by decreasing the fee for single men. This will eventually lead to lot of men in the club and very few women. One of the reasons why governments should not interfere in this matter.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"Ok so some will think it’s justified, why do the majority of clubs and party events feel the need to financially exploit the single guy ?? If you as a single guy have ever taken out membership, attended a party or club you will in the main have been financially exploited compared to couples and single females ! Is there a valid reason for this

most clubs say they limit the amount of men to the ratio of other attendees, not in my experience! And they get as many through the door as they can cause men pay it, we resign ourselves to “well that’s the price, if i want to go in” maybe I’m missing something here ? But I don’t think so lol "
. Financially exploited are rather strong words I feel as surely you would check the price out and if it is within your budget and the days and times are convenient for you then you pay your money and attend.As a single guy who is a member of Our Place 4 Fun ( OP4F ) in North London I know what the price is for what night I chose to go.Before Covid19 I paid £50 entrance fee on a Friday night with no expectations other than to have a good night out at the end of my working week.Unfortunately there are some guys that feel a sense of entitlement and spoil it for others.

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By *akey2somCouple
over a year ago

wakefield

We love going to clubs where single guys are allowed, but if we walked into a club where the guys outnumbered the women 50/1 then we would not go again. Would the single guys really want that kind of odds?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"We won’t name the club but heard a tale from friends recently of a club that has started charging variable rates for single guys on the night - depending on how attractive (or otherwise) they are…

Not sure that’s in line with the spirit of this life - if true"

The problem is attractive people can be douche-bags as well

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By *ittle Girl LostWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I keep having that discussion with my partner, and each time we agree to disagree.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"Clubs would be like the real life equivalent of FAB"

You win the internet this week!

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By *akey2somCouple
over a year ago

wakefield

Not sure that’s in line with the spirit of this life - if true

The problem is attractive people can be douche-bags as well

This is out of order, don't agree with this at all.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

Easy answer…. Because they can.

It’s business, you charge what people will pay. Men pay it so nothing will change.

I don’t believe the cost controls the attendance either, lots of men will pay the price.

Decent places and hosts control their guest list for men/ women ratios.

Not saying I agree, but that’s why

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clubs would be like the real life equivalent of FAB

You win the internet this week!"

It’s true. An endless night of FAF but in person

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By *razytimesinloveCouple
over a year ago

SW Scotland

Identify as a woman for the night and go in at a reduced rate

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By *portyndNaughtyMan
over a year ago

Nearby Hinckley

I don't feel exploited but dislike when the number of single men is excessive anything above 3:1 on my view.

Having said that, I guess, it is difficult for club owners to deny entrance to long term single men members.

Perhaps a warning advice at the reception stating not enough couples/single females are attending the evening would help.

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By *akey2somCouple
over a year ago

wakefield

"I don't feel exploited but dislike when the number of single men is excessive anything above 3:1 on my view.

Having said that, I guess, it is difficult for club owners to deny entrance to long term single men members.

Perhaps a warning advice at the reception stating not enough couples/single females are attending the evening would help. "

Glad to hear this from the guys point of view too.

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By *unguy1074Man
over a year ago

watford

As a single guy, and as a club goer, if i dont like the price i dont go. Its simple, there is always a club that is cheaper than others. If you think the uk is bad there is a club in florida were for couples it $40, single women $10, single guys $200. Be glad your not at that clubs door

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By *urreyVixenStagCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

A good club is run as a business. It’s sole aim to make money to pay rent/bills/wages. It’s harder to get single ladies in to a club, therefore they’re given a lower rate. Couples often at a slight discount from the single guy rate - so if you can get a lady friend to go with you, I’d recommend this.

Single guys will pay for club entry in the hope for sex - and a club won’t turn away a high ticket entry as most are still recovering from being shut for 18mths.

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By *urvyandsnapperCouple
over a year ago

Essex/Kent

"A good club is run as a business. It’s sole aim to make money to pay rent/bills/wages. It’s harder to get single ladies in to a club, therefore they’re given a lower rate. Couples often at a slight discount from the single guy rate - so if you can get a lady friend to go with you, I’d recommend this.

Single guys will pay for club entry in the hope for sex - and a club won’t turn away a high ticket entry as most are still recovering from being shut for 18mths. "

Exactly this - common sense in action

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

"I don't feel exploited but dislike when the number of single men is excessive anything above 3:1 on my view.

Having said that, I guess, it is difficult for club owners to deny entrance to long term single men members.

Perhaps a warning advice at the reception stating not enough couples/single females are attending the evening would help. "

It might be hard for the club to predict who is going to attend though, as single men usually have to book but often couples and ladies don't.

In principle it does seem like a good idea but I've just not sure how it would work out.

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By *redy81Man
over a year ago

London

" But it wouldn't be legally permitted, if the clubs were almost all other types of business. They benefit, perhaps, from the loophole that exempted private clubs from equality legislation.

Please, please, please don't bring this woke gender agenda into the club life otherwise it will ruin it.

Men and women are different, which is an amazing thing, let's appreciate this, respect and admire each other for our differences instead of ruining our life with nonsense.

As a single man, I am happy to pay more at the door if there is a healthy m/f ratio.

And if I count in that how much financial effort most ladies put in looking sexy at those parties (dress, lingerie, hairdresser, cosmetician, jewellery, etc), while I haven't visited a barber for years but cut my own hair, before the party I simply take a shower, jump in a clean shirt, a boxer and a pair of trousers and ready to go... well, I am not even sure that I am the one who spends more on that night.

On another note, without wanting to make a joke out of it, I wonder how many woke gender activist females claimed equal rights at the Ukrainian border when they were allowed to leave while men have been told to turn back and fight...

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By *teph BitchTV/TS
over a year ago

Manchester

"I dont mind popping a frock on to save a few quid

I would do that too if it worked

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By *teph BitchTV/TS
over a year ago

Manchester

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

Isn't there a direct correlation between being exploited and being gullible?

I'd therefore suggest exploitation is the wrong word. If you can't afford I'd hazard a guess that you make that decision prior to being

"exploited"

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By *inkycreamCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Would you like to go to a club that’s a tenner a guy , as a couple or a single girl, be abundance of idiots all pissed with there pals etc

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By *enhamhoopMan
over a year ago

Denham

It's supply and demand my main problem is no single male events which sadly for me tend to be locally on a Saturday night. Which being a night worker is the only night I can actually attend so my club attendance is extremely limited. As for a club charging less to the slightly more visually attractive males I better never attend I would need a second mortgage

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By *horty4Man
over a year ago

london

Fuck me, are we rehashing this conversation again? Go, don’t go. Stop whining.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's supply and demand my main problem is no single male events which sadly for me tend to be locally on a Saturday night. Which being a night worker is the only night I can actually attend so my club attendance is extremely limited. As for a club charging less to the slightly more visually attractive males I better never attend I would need a second mortgage"

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By *uffolkClareClactonDaveCouple
over a year ago

Felixstowe/Clacton-on-Sea

"I keep having that discussion with my partner, and each time we agree to disagree.

How very dare you sweetie! You know full well that the only time I look unkempt is after a session with you or one of our other friends

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By *ndycumzCouple
over a year ago

Slutsville

I'm all for equality so the day a guy walks in our club, declares he's up for a gang bang. Takes 20 women into the orgy room. Puts a huge smile on all of their faces and has them high five each other saying they can't wait to come back next week. He has my word we'll refund his ticket price !

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

"I'm all for equality so the day a guy walks in our club, declares he's up for a gang bang. Takes 20 women into the orgy room. Puts a huge smile on all of their faces and has them high five each other saying they can't wait to come back next week. He has my word we'll refund his ticket price !"

Touché

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By *itygamesMan
over a year ago

Its only the price of a few pints more

I wouldnt and dont worry about it..

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

"Have a look at all the other threads already on here about this.

Then study the basic economic principle of supply and demand.

Then swallow a 'Little Book of Calm'

Where do I find this book, I think I've been looking for it all my life

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By *orking Class GentMan
over a year ago

Warrington

But it wouldn't be legally permitted, if the clubs were almost all other types of business. They benefit, perhaps, from the loophole that exempted private clubs from equality legislation.

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

Ok so I have been attending clubs for 10 years on and off now and I have given the same answer again and again over the years

For a few years I was a club host too

Guys have and always will pay either the same as couples or a tad more.

Why ? Because they will

Getting single ladies to clubs has always been much much harder to encourage

Let’s face it women on fab outweigh guys prob 5 to 1 easily. Does that reflect in who actually attend clubs - not at all

When women attend a club they are going obv for a good night but knowing they can enjoy the freedom of sexual adventure in a safe environment too. Running such places costs money with staff , security and the like and forget IT IS A BUSINESS !!

Clubs are not there as a charity to help your sexual liberation. They need to make money or they fail and you can’t go anyway. So therefore they have to look at what is profitable. Baring in mind lots of clubs don’t allow single guys on Saturday night (always a bug bare for me as single guys is what I go to clubs for) they have to charge accordingly on the nights they do

I’m going to say it again

ITS A BUSINESS NOT A CHARITY

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By *ndrew CareyMan
over a year ago

Peterborough, Cambridgeshire & Lincolnshire

It's pretty obvious why it's done. Not a huge fan of the club scene but women and couples are the target audience.

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By *exy BeckyCouple
over a year ago

Bergerac, France

Single guys pay X amount to get into a club.

You get a discount if you're a female or a couple.

Think of it that way and things become a bit easier...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a business at the end of the day. I wouldn’t say it’s exploitation at all. You don’t have to go and just because you do also doesn’t mean you are guaranteed anything.

Think of it like a night out - it’s probably cheaper.

As someone mentioned above imagine if it was the same price to get in

the amount of men / reserve lists to get in would be ridiculous…

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By *akey2somCouple
over a year ago

wakefield

Our regular club Quest charges the following

Couples = £20

Single Male = £25

Single Female = £5

Don’t think that’s too bad, be happy to see more single guys there

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

I'm volunteering my partner, he's always wanted a "greedy boy" night

. Just please make sure you have a team of paramedics on standby, just in case he needs reviving afterwards

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

"The women are sex bait so they pay less. The men want sex so they will pay much more for the possibility of sex, to keep the club in business.

But surely men are sex bait too ?"

Not really when single men out number single women on a club night 10-1.

We also think that guys paying more helps them behave better as they don't want to get kicked out after paying so much.

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

Also we see it more as single Women getting charged less than single men getting charged more.

See it as a discount for Women to encourage them to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't call it financial exploitation of guys. Its probably down to the ratio of guys, massive amounts of guys would go it is was cheap and probably would be the wrong type of men eg not respectful. X

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By *ndycumzCouple
over a year ago

Slutsville

I'm volunteering my partner, he's always wanted a "greedy boy" night

. Just please make sure you have a team of paramedics on standby, just in case he needs reviving afterwards

Good man...Send him along!!! I'm an expert at mouth 2 mouth and chest compressions

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

The number of single men in a club could be controlled simply by quota. So yes it is unfair but I think you can only call it exploitative if you have no choice - you do, so it's just a case of take it or leave it.

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By *andSCouple
over a year ago

Old London Town

One of the clubs we go has a policy where the number of single guys that can go is proportional to the overall number of people who confirm they are going.

So, in their case the extra tenner reflects the extra time they spend keeping track of which single men are going to be there.

We're sure everyone wants a good mix of different people that gives everyone the best chance to enjoy themselves.

Would you, in all honesty, want to go to a club where it was 50-55% single guys every week? That's what it would be like, going on the volume of single guys registered on here.

Some clubs do have day/night events where the prices are the same for everyone because they want to attract those ladies and couples that want loads of single guys to exploit.

Choose your exploitation...

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Scouse is all for free entry for the guys and higher rates for everyone else. She's a greedy girl though

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

The day I walk into a club which has a ratio of 20 single women to 1 guy, I’ll pay your club’s electric bill for the year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If number the number of single men is the problem why not just limit the number of single men on site at any time? No need to use price to do it as you still have too many fellas if they're prepared to pay anything? Same equitable price for single men and women and balanced numbers. Problem solved.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If number the number of single men is the problem why not just limit the number of single men on site at any time? No need to use price to do it as you still have too many fellas if they're prepared to pay anything? Same equitable price for single men and women and balanced numbers. Problem solved. "

To do this you’d have to increase the price for single women and couples to cover the cost of running a business at a profit. If it was more expensive for single women and couples less would attend. Less women and couples would mean less single men would attend and the business would go under. It’s pretty simple really.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"I think that there should be equality in life. Some clubs have moved against the discrimination by levelling things.

There are other ways of controlling ratios, if that's the justification.

Each little thing in life that we tolerate that's not on an equal footing, is tacit agreement to not having equality in this world. "

Wise Soul!

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

Quite simple really.

Actions speak louder than words.

The guys who don't agree with the pricing, just don't go.

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

"The women are sex bait so they pay less. The men want sex so they will pay much more for the possibility of sex, to keep the club in business.

But surely men are sex bait too ?"

Not really from what we see.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"I keep having that discussion with my partner, and each time we agree to disagree.

Hair dressing is the wrong comparison, in my opinion. men go for a hair cut, and shave perhaps. Woemn will usually have a wash, styling etc, the shampoo, water, conditioner used, the dryer will usually justify the price, not to mention the time it takes. Cutting our hair is usually straight forward, done in around 20mins if the barber is not the talkative type.

I don't see how you conclude, "men are desperate for a fuck", I think it should be human beings can be desperate for sex.I just think there is a degree of exploitation, and I am afraid, single men bear the brunt of it. It is a misplaced assumption that single men are wanton sex maniacs that will pay anything to get laid. If that was the case, brothels would be overflowing.

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By *emel9Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t. "

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

I personally think it should be one price for all but limit the number of any particular group that can attend, for example 40 couples 30 single ladies, 30 single men

That way everyone's on an equal playing field, the place won't be swamped with single guys as once they've hit their group limit no more can attend

You won't get the entitlement that you sometimes get from single guys that they've paid more so deserve something , I think it will make for a much more relaxed atmosphere

The club could let you prebook entry a few days in advance, so if they knew they were short on a particular group they could then lower the price a little to entice a few extra people in

I tend to go to spa type places & the prices there are generally per person rather than gender based

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"I personally think it should be one price for all but limit the number of any particular group that can attend, for example 40 couples 30 single ladies, 30 single men

That way everyone's on an equal playing field, the place won't be swamped with single guys as once they've hit their group limit no more can attend

You won't get the entitlement that you sometimes get from single guys that they've paid more so deserve something , I think it will make for a much more relaxed atmosphere

The club could let you prebook entry a few days in advance, so if they knew they were short on a particular group they could then lower the price a little to entice a few extra people in

I tend to go to spa type places & the prices there are generally per person rather than gender based "

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By *illingdon_ladMan
over a year ago

Bicester

Did you see how people reacted over being told they were only allowed limited number of products during the lockdowns, or the argument over being told to wear a mask. Imagine now how intimidating telling a group of 20 men that they cannot come in? The club would likely need to employ extra security which will in turn raise the price.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exploitation of single middle age working age men these days is the accepted norm in society.. From being expected to take up the work hours slack so family people can have more time with their kids at Christmas to father's for justice nightmares many guys are having to go through to the highest demographic in suicide rates to being the cash tax cow for the Exchequer .. from toxic masculinity to outlawing men being men, feeling you're a pariah because you are heterosexual / straight and politically incorrect to use the term 'normal' to feeling everything we enjoy from sexy women to cars bikes dirty jokes and having a boozy night out with the lads or out on the pull... modernism is eroding all that being a guy was ..

Every other demographic from women to gay people, coloured skin, kids etc get ott attention about their suffering left right and centre in MSM... And often the blame for all their problems is determined to be the 'white straight working age male' I for 1 am pretty sick of it tbh .. so much so it's made me a cynical grumpy bastard and I can't watch the news anymore.. just pisses me right off.

Someone get me a beer... FFS

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By *illingdon_ladMan
over a year ago

Bicester

"I personally think it should be one price for all but limit the number of any particular group that can attend, for example 40 couples 30 single ladies, 30 single men

That way everyone's on an equal playing field, the place won't be swamped with single guys as once they've hit their group limit no more can attend

You won't get the entitlement that you sometimes get from single guys that they've paid more so deserve something , I think it will make for a much more relaxed atmosphere

The club could let you prebook entry a few days in advance, so if they knew they were short on a particular group they could then lower the price a little to entice a few extra people in

I tend to go to spa type places & the prices there are generally per person rather than gender based "

So what happens when I book and pay my £50+ fee for a club night in 3 weeks time it to find that no couples or single women are coming? Would the club like a mass refund request? Would they have to honour refunds? There is no ideal solution to monitoring numbers. I know of situations where men have hired escorts to go to clubs on couple only nights and hide in the dark room all night so they don't get found.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

If you think it is so terrible then open your own club charge men / women / couples the same amount and see how successful your club is."
simple thing is don't go eventually club will hopefully close or change the way it operates you have a choice.

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By *illingdon_ladMan
over a year ago

Bicester

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

If you think it is so terrible then open your own club charge men / women / couples the same amount and see how successful your club is. simple thing is don't go eventually club will hopefully close or change the way it operates you have a choice."

Come on we both know for every guy who says nope not gonna pay that there are 2 guys who'll say fuck me it's cheaper than a brothel let's go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Exploitation of single middle age working age men these days is the accepted norm in society.. From being expected to take up the work hours slack so family people can have more time with their kids at Christmas to father's for justice nightmares many guys are having to go through to the highest demographic in suicide rates to being the cash tax cow for the Exchequer .. from toxic masculinity to outlawing men being men, feeling you're a pariah because you are heterosexual / straight and politically incorrect to use the term 'normal' to feeling everything we enjoy from sexy women to cars bikes dirty jokes and having a boozy night out with the lads or out on the pull... modernism is eroding all that being a guy was ..

Someone get me a beer... FFS "

Yes the straight white man has always had it so hard. They weren’t allowed to vote, had to drink from separate water fountains, were blamed for aids, killed and beaten for being different. I don’t know how they cope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

Come on we both know for every guy who says nope a club not gonna pay that there are 2 guys who'll say fuck me it's cheaper than a brothel let's go. "
I agree that's why it won't ever change I for one will never pay to go in club so doesn't effect me but as said if single guys stopped going im sure some will change and others might close.

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By *arl JamesMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

If you think it is so terrible then open your own club charge men / women / couples the same amount and see how successful your club is."

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By *arl JamesMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

Come on we both know for every guy who says nope a club not gonna pay that there are 2 guys who'll say fuck me it's cheaper than a brothel let's go. I agree that's why it won't ever change I for one will never pay to go in club so doesn't effect me but as said if single guys stopped going im sure some will change and others might close."

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By *arl JamesMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I personally think it should be one price for all but limit the number of any particular group that can attend, for example 40 couples 30 single ladies, 30 single men

That way everyone's on an equal playing field, the place won't be swamped with single guys as once they've hit their group limit no more can attend

You won't get the entitlement that you sometimes get from single guys that they've paid more so deserve something , I think it will make for a much more relaxed atmosphere

The club could let you prebook entry a few days in advance, so if they knew they were short on a particular group they could then lower the price a little to entice a few extra people in

I tend to go to spa type places & the prices there are generally per person rather than gender based "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I keep having that discussion with my partner, and each time we agree to disagree.

If that's not true why does fab and every sex site overflows with single men compared to women?

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By *ickDastardlyMan
over a year ago

North East

I understand why single men pay more.

It makes logical sense.

I wouldn't say its exploitation at all.

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

They won't close.

The good clubs are very well attended by couples and single women. In fact the busiest nights are the ones with no single guys!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The simple reply, which has been said every time a single guy raises the same issue on here is;

They won't close.

The good clubs are very well attended by couples and single women. In fact the busiest nights are the ones with no single guys!!"
good for them I hope single guys keep away

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By *emel9Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend."

My point exactly. It’s not a simple case of supply and demand as many have described.

It’s as simple as a business decision. Single males will pay, so charge them.

It’s pure economics of business. Whether that is fair or not is a different thing though.

Amigos in Leicester, for example, charge everyone the same. It doesn’t have a different ratio to any other club I’ve been to, when it comes to the sex of its clientele.

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS
over a year ago

peterborough

You mean couples only nights, God there so boring......

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"I personally think it should be one price for all but limit the number of any particular group that can attend, for example 40 couples 30 single ladies, 30 single men

That way everyone's on an equal playing field, the place won't be swamped with single guys as once they've hit their group limit no more can attend

You won't get the entitlement that you sometimes get from single guys that they've paid more so deserve something , I think it will make for a much more relaxed atmosphere

The club could let you prebook entry a few days in advance, so if they knew they were short on a particular group they could then lower the price a little to entice a few extra people in

I tend to go to spa type places & the prices there are generally per person rather than gender based

If it was one price for all you wouldn't need to start £50+

Single guys already pay £50, couples £30ish single ladies sometimes£10-15 other times free, so say the club generates £80 from those, attendees, you could make it £20 each & they'd still generate the same money

Obviously that would then upset some single women & couples but you can't please everyone & we can't pick & choose when we want equality

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend."

Why?

Is it presumed every single women is tight or couldn't afford to pay a club entry fee

I've paid to get into clubs & would prefer a one price for all pricing structure

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t. "

Exactly if clubs insist on different pay structures on nights like this couples & women should pay the premium on greedy girl nights to subsidise cheap entry for the multiple guys they want to enjoy

By making it cheaper entry for women on those nights your basically paying them to keep your male clientele happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend.

Why?

Is it presumed every single women is tight or couldn't afford to pay a club entry fee

I've paid to get into clubs & would prefer a one price for all pricing structure "

Because most would just go to the normal events that charge less. I’ve never attended a greedy girls night but from what I’ve heard there’s only a handful of women at these and loads of single men. If less women attended, less men would which means less profit for clubs.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

Exactly if clubs insist on different pay structures on nights like this couples & women should pay the premium on greedy girl nights to subsidise cheap entry for the multiple guys they want to enjoy

By making it cheaper entry for women on those nights your basically paying them to keep your male clientele happy "
. As a single guy I think it’s a good idea that’s perhaps we paid less at a greedy girl event.However if I can perhaps flip it round what if the girls at the greedy girl event were not happy with the type of man at the event say for argument sake they were looking for gym fit guys and on the night there were not any would the girls feel they have been conned / cheated and may want a refund or would the club be expected to make they attract enough of the type of guys wanted by the girls.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend.

Why?

Is it presumed every single women is tight or couldn't afford to pay a club entry fee

I've paid to get into clubs & would prefer a one price for all pricing structure

You make women sound very cheap & financially motivated

Im sure most would chose their club based on facilities, atmosphere, hosts and clientele rather than cost, especially if the increase was marginal, I mean people wouldn't go to a club just because it was cheaper entry if they didn't like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend.

Why?

Is it presumed every single women is tight or couldn't afford to pay a club entry fee

I've paid to get into clubs & would prefer a one price for all pricing structure

You make women sound very cheap & financially motivated

Are all greedy girls single women? No. I’m including couples in this as well. With the prices of everything increasing the answer to this wouldn’t be increasing prices for women and couples, it would be decreasing prices for men. This wouldn’t be sustainable from a business perspective so I guess it won’t change.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

Exactly if clubs insist on different pay structures on nights like this couples & women should pay the premium on greedy girl nights to subsidise cheap entry for the multiple guys they want to enjoy

By making it cheaper entry for women on those nights your basically paying them to keep your male clientele happy . As a single guy I think it’s a good idea that’s perhaps we paid less at a greedy girl event.However if I can perhaps flip it round what if the girls at the greedy girl event were not happy with the type of man at the event say for argument sake they were looking for gym fit guys and on the night there were not any would the girls feel they have been conned / cheated and may want a refund or would the club be expected to make they attract enough of the type of guys wanted by the girls."

But you can never guarantee attractiveness & what's attractive to one isn't attractive to another

That's kind of like saying if the ladies didn't feel satisfied because they didn't like the quality of guys they'd feel entitled to a refund but do single guys ask for a refund if they don't get lucky when at a club, there should never be any level of entitlement or expectation, women can't expect a certain astethic of guy the same way a single guy can't expect sex

I know you and I know that's not what you meant, I've twisted it to the extreme, to prove my point about why I think prices should be level because without it a level of entitlement can exist

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Not sure that’s in line with the spirit of this life - if true

The problem is attractive people can be douche-bags as well

This is out of order, don't agree with this at all.

You think attractive people can't be douche-bags/

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend.

Why?

Is it presumed every single women is tight or couldn't afford to pay a club entry fee

I've paid to get into clubs & would prefer a one price for all pricing structure

You make women sound very cheap & financially motivated

I just feel more confortable in venues where we all pay the same, I just find it's generally more relaxed, single guys don't tend to be of the zombie kind constantly on the hunt because they've paid a premium for entrance, I've never found them overrun with single guys, it's always been a good mix etc

But ultimately it's up to the individual while guy continue to pay clubs will continue to charge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend.

Why?

Is it presumed every single women is tight or couldn't afford to pay a club entry fee

I've paid to get into clubs & would prefer a one price for all pricing structure

You make women sound very cheap & financially motivated

But ultimately it's up to the individual while guy continue to pay clubs will continue to charge "

We’ve been to 4 clubs and they’ve all charged more for single men so can’t comment on the difference between them and the ones that charge less. We’ve obviously met the wanking dead but for the most all single men we’ve came into contact with have been very respectful.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

Exactly if clubs insist on different pay structures on nights like this couples & women should pay the premium on greedy girl nights to subsidise cheap entry for the multiple guys they want to enjoy

But you can never guarantee attractiveness & what's attractive to one isn't attractive to another

I know you and I know that's not what you meant, I've twisted it to the extreme, to prove my point about why I think prices should be level because without it a level of entitlement can exist

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. Yes people do see attractiveness in different ways.As I single guy I have attended greedy girl events in the past and hope to in the future.On a few occasions I have seen couples leave because there wasn’t the type of guys they were looking for which was why I though I would flip the question round.You are right to ask the question would a single guy ask for a refund if they didn’t get lucky I can’t speak for every single guy I will however speak for myself and that is to say I would never ask for a refund my attitude is to treat it as a night out no expectations no disappointments and anything else is a bonus.Yes there are guys that feel a sense of entitlement when they have paid £50- £80 to get into a club in London but I feel it’s even worse in Rios where the guys pay £25-£30 to get in and the behaviour at times is unacceptable in my eyes. I could be wrong but from my experience the more a guy pays especially in London where two of our clubs are members only

we have to be well behaved otherwise if our membership is cancelled where do we go after that.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

If someone took it to equal rights via the courts, it would be a definite win.

The only problem and maybe the reason it hasn't already is that the press would be all over it.

It is absolute, unfair discrimination and sure if females where subject to the opposite, taking cases such as employment, there would be case to answer.

If supporting the cost of running a club is based on higher fees for single guys, then couples and females should be paying a higher entry fee.

They'd be an outcry if other types of venues did it such as pubs and clubs.

Anyone for a 'No Win - No Fee' claim?

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"If someone took it to equal rights via the courts, it would be a definite win.

The only problem and maybe the reason it hasn't already is that the press would be all over it.

It is absolute, unfair discrimination and sure if females where subject to the opposite, taking cases such as employment, there would be case to answer.

If supporting the cost of running a club is based on higher fees for single guys, then couples and females should be paying a higher entry fee.

They'd be an outcry if other types of venues did it such as pubs and clubs.

Anyone for a 'No Win - No Fee' claim?"

I'm sure I'm correct in saying, that any price tag for goods and services is an 'invitation to treat' in Law. To that end then, if you don't like the price, you don't ask to purchase the product

I've been to several clubs, and I've boycotted others because of their pricing strategy, it is what it is

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By *oveoldercouples99Man
over a year ago

Merton

Always an interesting debate this one. Single men are to some extent the "cash cow" of the clubs, but I never feel exploited. The clubs are there for all our enjoyment and if the owners were in it for money they wouldn't have couples nights that exclude the cash cows.

Only thing I would say is I would visit more often if it was cheaper. To me going to clubs is about singles meeting couples, not singles meeting singles. That's what pubs, clubs, tinder and mainstream society is for.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"If someone took it to equal rights via the courts, it would be a definite win.

The only problem and maybe the reason it hasn't already is that the press would be all over it.

It is absolute, unfair discrimination and sure if females where subject to the opposite, taking cases such as employment, there would be case to answer.

If supporting the cost of running a club is based on higher fees for single guys, then couples and females should be paying a higher entry fee.

They'd be an outcry if other types of venues did it such as pubs and clubs.

Anyone for a 'No Win - No Fee' claim?"

Rather than paying the entry into clubs single guys should club together, hire a lawyer and fight this inequality

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

its same in normal nightclubs.. nothing new

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

"If someone took it to equal rights via the courts, it would be a definite win.

The only problem and maybe the reason it hasn't already is that the press would be all over it.

It is absolute, unfair discrimination and sure if females where subject to the opposite, taking cases such as employment, there would be case to answer.

If supporting the cost of running a club is based on higher fees for single guys, then couples and females should be paying a higher entry fee.

They'd be an outcry if other types of venues did it such as pubs and clubs.

Anyone for a 'No Win - No Fee' claim?"

It wouldn't be an automatic win.

They are private members clubs, they can charge who they want what they want.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Be curious for someone to try..

Other private clubs have fallen full though. No on charging, more on restricted access, whether it's different.

I'm not a lawyer.

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By *redy81Man
over a year ago

London

"Be curious for someone to try..

Other private clubs have fallen full though. No on charging, more on restricted access, whether it's different.

I'm not a lawyer."

Dude, why do you want to deliberately ruin the club scene? Your profile says u r straight, so I assume your ideal party is not the real-life equivalent of fab, where the prices are the same and the male-female ratio is somewhere around 50-1...

Now you got the chance to attend a good party for something between £50-£100. If that nonsense would get through on the court (thank God it won't), for a few months (before even those few girls/couples disappear and all clubs collapse) you will have the chance to visit absolutely shit sausage-fest parties for £10-£20. Does it sound like a good deal for you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone suggested women pay the same as men?

It's always about lowering the entry price for men to level the entry fee.

Why does the entry price have to come down, when it could also go up for women and couples.

No one ever seems to suggest this.

There's an obvious answer that I know the answer to.

Winston

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fewer single men means it's more attractive for single women and couples to attend therefore increasing revenue?

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"Has anyone suggested women pay the same as men?

It's always about lowering the entry price for men to level the entry fee.

Why does the entry price have to come down, when it could also go up for women and couples.

No one ever seems to suggest this.

There's an obvious answer that I know the answer to.

Winston"

I suggested it, it wasn't a popular suggestion

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

A female colleague of mine had the right answer for everything in life:

"It's only because men are such idiots".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has anyone suggested women pay the same as men?

It's always about lowering the entry price for men to level the entry fee.

Why does the entry price have to come down, when it could also go up for women and couples.

No one ever seems to suggest this.

There's an obvious answer that I know the answer to.

Winston

I suggested it, it wasn't a popular suggestion

No kidding?

Winston

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

"A female colleague of mine had the right answer for everything in life:

"It's only because men are such idiots"."

She is so right.

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

"Be curious for someone to try..

Other private clubs have fallen full though. No on charging, more on restricted access, whether it's different.

I'm not a lawyer."

It won't work.

When you join as a member you are bound by the rules of the private members club, including their private pricing structure.

If a private members club want a mix of different people, that's up to them. They could also charge different prices based on gender.

Also not a lawyer, but a quick Google search throws that up.

Surprised more people haven't Googled it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fewer single men means it's more attractive for single women and couples to attend therefore increasing revenue? "

Not for this couple. We only go for the single men and lots of other couples and women are the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody is being forced to go to these clubs if you think it's too dear don't go. We lived in Australia and used to go to a club which was free entry to Single females and male/female couples but charged $70aus for men and there was always a queue of single men hoping to get in .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should be the same price for singles irrespective of male or female. Just because men are men by the way we are wired doesn't mean it's right to discriminate by charging more, not in this day and age of equality. These clubs wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court. Just yet another example of the single man being the cash cow in society. Women should be paying their way too, after all it's what they fought for years ago isn't it ...

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By *emel9Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

"So why do men, and I’m on fabs as a genuine couple too, still pay more at greedy girl or milf events.

Events where ladies/couples want the attention of lots of men. But the men still pay the normal, higher price than single women and couples.

If, as a lot have said, it’s simple supply and demand, for these events the pricing structure should be flipped. But it isn’t.

If you charged women more they simply wouldn’t attend.

Why?

Is it presumed every single women is tight or couldn't afford to pay a club entry fee

I've paid to get into clubs & would prefer a one price for all pricing structure

I’d have to say, as someone who had been to many, what you’ve heard is inaccurate. There are plenty of women at greedy girl events.

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By *emel9Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

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By *xxLandNxxxCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

"Should be the same price for singles irrespective of male or female. Just because men are men by the way we are wired doesn't mean it's right to discriminate by charging more, not in this day and age of equality. These clubs wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court. Just yet another example of the single man being the cash cow in society. Women should be paying their way too, after all it's what they fought for years ago isn't it ...

If single guys were considered a cash cow most clubs wouldn’t exclude them on a Saturday night possibly one of the busiest nights of the week.

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

Courts would do nothing about it.

Private members clubs can charge different prices for different genders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As somebody who has been to clubs as a single guy before becoming a couple, and for the benefit of those who have only known todays entitled society, a couple of things to consider (not JUST relating to the cost of going to clubs).

1/ Life isn’t fair - get used to it buttercup, it won’t change, the sooner you learn to accept that the easier your life will actually be.

2/ Irrespective of what people claim and what the ask for, not everybody/everything is equal. There is a theory by a guy called Darwin, might give you some insight. There has always been a hierarchy in the world/nature/society and even systems which are apparently based on equality for all (socialism) demonstrates that some are more equal than others. Also if really want total equality, then if you eat meat perhaps you might want to pop down to an abbatoir and ask the animals if you can take their place on the line.

3/ As humans we have the benefit of being intelligent and cognitive beings (although some people do their very best to refute that statement). We also live in a society where we have, to a large degree, have the luxury of the freedom to make decisions about what we do or don’t do. If you don’t want to pay the price, then don’t go.

4/ Moaning about things doesn’t change it. The path to inner peace can often be acceptance (especially when it comes to point 1 !).

Fire (male)

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By *elpful and caringMan
over a year ago

Scarborough

If you feel you are being exploited by paying extortionate rates to enter clubs don’t go.

They must be many clubs owners who are cringing and squirming at the thought of losi g your business.

It’s a well known practice for night clubs to allow females to enter for free in order to lure in unsuspecting males.

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

"The women are sex bait so they pay less. The men want sex so they will pay much more for the possibility of sex, to keep the club in business.

This

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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

"As somebody who has been to clubs as a single guy before becoming a couple, and for the benefit of those who have only known todays entitled society, a couple of things to consider (not JUST relating to the cost of going to clubs).

1/ Life isn’t fair - get used to it buttercup, it won’t change, the sooner you learn to accept that the easier your life will actually be.

4/ Moaning about things doesn’t change it. The path to inner peace can often be acceptance (especially when it comes to point 1 !).

Fire (male) "

Excellent ! And so true !

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

Another reason to throw in why Single guys are charged more is that they need to hire door staff to deal with any poor behaviour....and yes I'm sure there are problem women (not in our experience) but 99% of the time it's the men that will be the problem.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"Another reason to throw in why Single guys are charged more is that they need to hire door staff to deal with any poor behaviour....and yes I'm sure there are problem women (not in our experience) but 99% of the time it's the men that will be the problem."

I actually totally disagree with this. In my time in going to clubs it is d*unk members of couples that need removing and are rude to staff especially when the staff say no more booze. I have seen single ladies removed for the same issue

Ok yes single guys are not perfect but a word normally sorts them out.

The higher prices for single guys are so that they don’t think it’s a brothel and actually in theory are decent.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Going back to the OP - I have been going to clubs since 2004 and have always been charged more. It’s like death and Taxes.

Single guys have moaned about it. It hasn’t changed

I used to think it wasn’t right, yes it could be cheaper but there is no way it will be on parity as single women.

Normally a fair single guy price would be the same or slightly more than the couple price.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not explotation while there is a choice.

Pay the money and go, or don't go.

Max

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By *aldeagle68Man
over a year ago

Rayleigh

My view for what it is,If I want to go to a club than I expect as a single guy to pay more for number of reasons:

The club rightly or wrongly treats "Single Guys" as cash cows the more they get in the more the club makes the trade off is upsetting the balance and the couples and females being swamped,the short term goal makes loads of money whilst they can,as club doesn't publish number of Couples or females there on any night the single guys have paid the money to get in so Buyer beware.

The other option and I might agree with the principle of being over charged I would if attending a club pay more the reason being that there maybe less guys attending (although this doesn't always be the case)so reducing the number of complete numptees who give the genuine decent guys bad press by harassing the couples and females endlessly so spoiling the night or day for all.

There appears to be an attitude amongst some guys who attend club nights that the entrance fee entitles them to a free shag guaranteed,

As single guy keep the entrance fee for us higher and keep those idiots out it will encourage more couples and females to attend (hopefully) or is that just wishful thinking.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

Ok yes single guys are not perfect but a word normally sorts them out.

The higher prices for single guys are so that they don’t think it’s a brothel and actually in theory are decent. "

I agree the only two bad experiences I've had are with the male halves of couples

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By *ungry CatCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

I love how all single guys conveniently forget that it costs A LOT of money for regular woman to get ready for a club night:

Waxing/shaving, tan (fake or sunbeds both cost money), nails (I don't know a single woman who doesn't get her nails done before a big fab night, hair (most do at least touch up their roots or get a blow dry), new dress, matching shoes, lingerie... add up all or some of the costs before they even leave their house to go anywhere near a club while all a man has to do is get a shower, trim his pubes throw on some aftershave, a clean t-shirt then complain about how he's getting financially exploited

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Rather than paying the entry into clubs single guys should club together, hire a lawyer and fight this inequality"

Maybe fix the gender pay gap whilst they're at it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many clubs charge a minimal amount more. If you don’t like it then vote with your feet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if any club owners are reading this and can help explain their rationale on pricing?

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By *he PlaygroundsCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere Over The Rainbow

"I wonder if any club owners are reading this and can help explain their rationale on pricing? "

We have just one price, per head, regardless of gender.

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By *inden84Couple
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

"I wonder if any club owners are reading this and can help explain their rationale on pricing?

We have just one price, per head, regardless of gender."

While you only charge one price your website says you limit the number of guys as well as what events they can attended. So you balance out the ratio in another way rather than charging

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

As.many have said it is supply and demand, but I do wonder if the high prices actually help encourage the undesirable, pushy behaviour of many single men.

Pay £10 entry and they probably don't care if nothing happens, but paying £45 entry and they start thinking that at that price they had better have a good night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As.many have said it is supply and demand, but I do wonder if the high prices actually help encourage the undesirable, pushy behaviour of many single men.

Pay £10 entry and they probably don't care if nothing happens, but paying £45 entry and they start thinking that at that price they had better have a good night."

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By *ungry CatCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

"As.many have said it is supply and demand, but I do wonder if the high prices actually help encourage the undesirable, pushy behaviour of many single men.

Pay £10 entry and they probably don't care if nothing happens, but paying £45 entry and they start thinking that at that price they had better have a good night."

We organise social meet and greets.

You'd be amazed how many men ask I they'll at least get a bj for a £10 they're paying for entry and even moreso - don't show up at all once they realise what social actually means...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

that to me sounds like prostitution

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By *leasureseekers123Couple
over a year ago

Heathrow

What amazes us on club nights is that given the higher price for single guys, many of them don’t make an effort! Some do of course and they’re the ones who get invited to play, but we’ve seen guys who don’t smell great and don’t dress to impress.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

"What amazes us on club nights is that given the higher price for single guys, many of them don’t make an effort! Some do of course and they’re the ones who get invited to play, but we’ve seen guys who don’t smell great and don’t dress to impress. "

I've seen that. It's crazy isn't it?

I often struggle with approaching people as nerves hit me, but putting an effort in before hand definitely helps get me mentally prepared and builds my confidence too.

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By *urvybeckiWoman
over a year ago

Enfield

To be honest I think most clubs charge so much for single guys just to out the ones who are too tight to even by me a drink at a bar lol

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By *cottishMrsWoman
over a year ago

Wishaw

Gosh, it must be hard being a particular gender and feeling like things are unequal. Wonder how that must feel...

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"A female colleague of mine had the right answer for everything in life:

"It's only because men are such idiots"."

A prominent NW club host once said “Single guys in clubs are a ‘nice to have’, not a necessity”, and that said it all to me

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By *arkDesiresPartiesCouple
over a year ago

London

"I wonder if any club owners are reading this and can help explain their rationale on pricing? "

I think supply and demand basically covers it. Think how many messages, likes and visits to your profile you would receive if you added a new picture to your profile. Be honest guys and girls, and even male/female couples whenthr male or female picture is added. When you can explain why the women may get hundreds of likes and messages, and the guys would be lucky to get 50 likes, and most of those from other guys, you'll probably have your answer.

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By *ucianpoundCouple
over a year ago

Cap d’Agde, France

Statistics, one woman can fuck 10+ guys, the average Joe would struggle with more than a couple of chicks.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

"Statistics, one woman can fuck 10+ guys, the average Joe would struggle with more than a couple of chicks."

Lol. That's quite an interesting take on the issue

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

"Statistics, one woman can fuck 10+ guys, the average Joe would struggle with more than a couple of chicks."

I’m happy to try lying on my back, licking 10+ pussies, while the women do all the work, for a £10 entry

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Me and My Girl are fairly regular at Amigos Leicester. Entry is reasonable, membership free to all. Entry is free to single ladies. Couples are charged the same entry as men (so for MF couples I suppose the female half is still free). Having said that it's hardly a gross exploitation of single men in terms of membership or entry and there's no advantage to being a MF couple. The club gets plenty of single guys and couples still go. But there is also a fair few regular single ladies go, the club does ok for single ladies. I suspect the amount of single ladies and frequency of return visit has a lot to do with free entry, including My Girl who visits alone now and then (its also a very freindly and safe club). Single ladies are really important to the dynamic, atmosphere and aesthetics of a club. They offer variety and opportunities, especially for single guys and the prospect of bigger group activities. Plus just about all of us just love seeing ladies. So despite how unfair it seems pragmatically thinking if this system if effective at creating the right dynamic in a club then it works out best for everyone. No one wants to attend a sausage fest even if it was very cheap. However I would avoid clubs that massively charge different prices to single men over others. I doubt the cost:benefit ratio is just not worth it at those club over other clubs that don't massively charge men differently in terms of membership and entry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Statistics, one woman can fuck 10+ guys, the average Joe would struggle with more than a couple of chicks."

So she should be paying £100 and the men pay £10.

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