FabSwingers.com forum: Eureka negativity... Why?

By *peak and Spell OP Couple
over a year ago

Greenwich, SE LONDON

We are quite perplexed to why there seems to be some negativity around Eurekas at the moment.

Yes, prices have gone up, and yes it is no longer BYOB... Both annoying, but the owners decision as a business.

We've not been since it has reopened so can't comment on any of the changes... But intend too soon.

However, our advice to the new owners is to update the website ASAP... Showcase the changes you've made (pictures etc)... At the moment with the increase in membership prices and no idea what has changed, it acts as a real barrier to entry.

Last time we looked there was no events calender either...(party site is closed for maintenance). So why would someone want to spend £50 on a couples silver membership without understanding what they might be able to go to?

We understand it is still early days since reopening, but the website is your shop window.

You could even add some photos of the new interior on your Fab Profile perhaps (if photo rules allow).

We would also recommend reconsidering allowing silver members to join at the door (as previously). You will capture a lot more adhoc custom, as well as people who are not comfortable digitally sending docs across (I know you can book a face to face appointment, but that is not ideal for people that live some distance away).

Finally, Pleasures is now stating (on their profile and website) that customers need a negative PCR test or vaccine before entry... Something you may want to consider depending on your stance on the matter (this however would make us a lot more comfortable to go)

Anyway, we are sure you are aware of these points.... But if not perhaps you might find this view useful.

We hope to rejoin and enjoy the Sat night parties very soon (when parental responsibilities allow!)

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By *unguy0069Man
over a year ago

Reigate

"We are quite perplexed to why there seems to be some negativity around Eurekas at the moment.

Yes, prices have gone up, and yes it is no longer BYOB... Both annoying, but the owners decision as a business.

We've not been since it has reopened so can't comment on any of the changes... But intend too soon.

We understand it is still early days since reopening, but the website is your shop window.

You could even add some photos of the new interior on your Fab Profile perhaps (if photo rules allow).

Anyway, we are sure you are aware of these points.... But if not perhaps you might find this view useful.

We hope to rejoin and enjoy the Sat night parties very soon (when parental responsibilities allow!) "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of the old regulars won't attend eureka anymore out of personal choice because they were friendly with the previous owner and disagree with how the current owners took over from him.

I think it's a real shame you can't join on the door for a trial or something. Many of my best nights at the old eureka were when I brought a car load of newbies up to try the club spontaneously!

And I agree with the previous poster, it doesn't help that the website isn't up to date. I haven't returned to the club since all the changes and being able to see all these apparantly amazing renovations might encourage me back

Abfabs is offering free membership to get people back to the club after lockdown - given eurekas price hikes especially for single blokes, offering free membership might help.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

"A lot of the old regulars won't attend eureka anymore out of personal choice because they were friendly with the previous owner and disagree with how the current owners took over from him.

I think it's a real shame you can't join on the door for a trial or something. Many of my best nights at the old eureka were when I brought a car load of newbies up to try the club spontaneously!

Abfabs is offering free membership to get people back to the club after lockdown - given eurekas price hikes especially for single blokes, offering free membership might help.

You have made some interesting points which I would like to comment on as a fun and sun loving member for over 35 years and someone who has already been there over 20 times since the reopening.The last couple of times I have been inside and am impressed with the imaginative new layout and decor which reflect the naturist heritage rather than looking even more like a night club which is what many were expecting to have happened.

Firstly, a number of the "I'm never coming back" people have started reappearing, proving that there is simply nowhere else like Eureka (over all)and the place itself will always have an appeal regardless of who owns it. Eureka along with everything else in life has been dealt a cruel blow by covid lockdowns and now, when getting going again, is being smitten by some appalling weather. Luckily the ground drains well and people are in the sunshine at the earliest possibility. Now that indoors is open again, there are things to do in poor weather.

One really significant thing is that the pool has been open every time I have visited this summer. That was not always the case before if numbers were low and weather was iffy.

As a Gold Member, I have not suffered a price increase so cannot complain. My only regret is that I can no longer bring any female guest on the spur of the moment (like your car load of newbies) Over the years I have introduced many and not one has not wanted to return whenever possible. Some regulars still remember the erstwhile quiet winter weekday when I brought seven lovely black hen partiers who kept things busy until 7.00pm kick out time!

I fully understand why things have changed and one benefit is that the place currently does not fill up on hot days with fully dressed chancers wandering around fanny gazing and playing pocket billiards (an image which does not do Eureka or the freedom of naturism any favours).

I hope that everyone involved will work together to make joining simpler whilst still keeping tabs on who is who as a precaution against trouble. A no questions asked set up is of no benefit to anyone except dubious characters. The management are already offering out of hours joining assistance by appointment for people who can't cope with doing it on line.

Single blokes (and I am one of them) have always been lucky that Eureka has made them welcome and I don't consider they particularly need further incentives like free membership. It is single women and female guests of gold members who I would rather see facilitated. More of them can only improve the scenery.

Regarding the website, i have seen many other instances where clubs and societies don't have direct enough control of their web presence and dynamics change resulting in out of date information, a situation which is never good. add to that the diversification caused by various social media sites and even where exactly on here is the best place to look, nothing is going to beat good old 'word of mouth' which, plus mentions in magazines, was the way people knew about Eureka before the internet. Eureka is still the magic place it was then and its enthusiastic members plus the unique location have made and kept it so.

I am sure that Stuart and Carrie and all the staff and helpers are doing their best at a difficult time and want Eureka to prosper as much as the members do.

Archimedes would be proud that his discovery has turned out to also be ours , thanks to Mark Wilson, originally, and all who have kept the place going over the years.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

"We are quite perplexed to why there seems to be some negativity around Eurekas at the moment.

Yes, prices have gone up, and yes it is no longer BYOB... Both annoying, but the owners decision as a business.

We've not been since it has reopened so can't comment on any of the changes... But intend too soon.

We understand it is still early days since reopening, but the website is your shop window.

You could even add some photos of the new interior on your Fab Profile perhaps (if photo rules allow).

Anyway, we are sure you are aware of these points.... But if not perhaps you might find this view useful.

We hope to rejoin and enjoy the Sat night parties very soon (when parental responsibilities allow!) "

I've never been but had planned to pre Covid & obviously now again after but what put me off before was that I'd heard it was clicky & the owners could be quite rude but I like to judge for myself but because if heard the stories do many times it was unfortunately never too if my list

& unfortunately since Covid I understand there's been management changes & I don't know if the current owners are the ones I'd previously heard about but they've done themselves no favours and have not come across well in my opinion to potential customers on posts

I asked for prices or guidance as to where I could find them on the website as I could see some costs but not others it was never answered (I understand their club posts were getting lots of comments but this one had less than 10 & they had seen the post) others have also asked about changes & they replied saying they wanted them to be a surprise for loyal members (fair enough but doesn't help potential new members) wanting to know if it's worth parting with their cash for like you

Ultimately I guess it's their business they run it as they see fit, it just feels like an odd business model to me but if it works for them, then great I guess

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By *n With LifeCouple
over a year ago

Hadley Wood