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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? " They are being asked to do it now but not mandoratory till end of sept | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? " They will do what's being asked or close. | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. " Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? " Being unvaccinated is not a disability. 
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? " Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E " You’ve missed my point. I was just using the Disability discrimination act as a reference that private members club are different to nightclubs and don’t always need to follow the same rules and regs. | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E You’ve missed my point. I was just using the Disability discrimination act as a reference that private members club are different to nightclubs and don’t always need to follow the same rules and regs. " I answered the question you asked. 
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E You’ve missed my point. I was just using the Disability discrimination act as a reference that private members club are different to nightclubs and don’t always need to follow the same rules and regs. I answered the question you asked.
E"It was actually a rhetorical question but made me realise that a club could offer access to someone who proved they are double vaccinated but then refuse them entry due to them being in a wheelchair. That’s how messed up the rules are. | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E You’ve missed my point. I was just using the Disability discrimination act as a reference that private members club are different to nightclubs and don’t always need to follow the same rules and regs. I answered the question you asked.
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It was actually a rhetorical question but made me realise that a club could offer access to someone who proved they are double vaccinated but then refuse them entry due to them being in a wheelchair. That’s how messed up the rules are. "Why's that messed up? I don't see your point. E | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E You’ve missed my point. I was just using the Disability discrimination act as a reference that private members club are different to nightclubs and don’t always need to follow the same rules and regs. " You made your point very well and it’s a good one! In general private members clubs can set their own rules and regs then it’s up to individuals if they want to be part of that club. The only caveat to that is that they can not have rules which are deemed against the law so if the vaccine passports become legislation for nightclubs they’d be in trouble for not confirming. However, with Labour, Lib Dem’s and many tories likely to vote against covid passports it’s unlikely to become law. Plus if it was law they could easily find legal loopholes eg a “re-brand” as a lounge, social club, cinema, pretty much anything other than “nightclub” and avoid the covid vaccine passport rules. | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E You’ve missed my point. I was just using the Disability discrimination act as a reference that private members club are different to nightclubs and don’t always need to follow the same rules and regs. You made your point very well and it’s a good one! In general private members clubs can set their own rules and regs then it’s up to individuals if they want to be part of that club. The only caveat to that is that they can not have rules which are deemed against the law so if the vaccine passports become legislation for nightclubs they’d be in trouble for not confirming. However, with Labour, Lib Dem’s and many tories likely to vote against covid passports it’s unlikely to become law. Plus if it was law they could easily find legal loopholes eg a “re-brand” as a lounge, social club, cinema, pretty much anything other than “nightclub” and avoid the covid vaccine passport rules." Much as I enjoy these flights of fancy I think it is naive at best to think clubs are going to avoid have to enforce Covid passports. The bottom line is that if someone wants to go to a swingers club they will need to get vaccinated. | |||
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"So clubs can reopen now with no restrictions, but from September all attendees will need a double Vaccine certificate. Is that correct? What will each club do? Any ideas? They will do what's being asked or close. Not necessarily. For example private member clubs don’t need to conform to the Disability discrimination act. So how can they make sure every member is fully vaccinated but not offer full access for someone in a wheelchair ? Quite easy, they ask everyone to prove their vaccine status on arrival. Vaccinations are nothing to do with any Disability or Equality Acts, so that's irrelevant. E You’ve missed my point. I was just using the Disability discrimination act as a reference that private members club are different to nightclubs and don’t always need to follow the same rules and regs. You made your point very well and it’s a good one! In general private members clubs can set their own rules and regs then it’s up to individuals if they want to be part of that club. The only caveat to that is that they can not have rules which are deemed against the law so if the vaccine passports become legislation for nightclubs they’d be in trouble for not confirming. However, with Labour, Lib Dem’s and many tories likely to vote against covid passports it’s unlikely to become law. Plus if it was law they could easily find legal loopholes eg a “re-brand” as a lounge, social club, cinema, pretty much anything other than “nightclub” and avoid the covid vaccine passport rules." They could try and swerve the rules, they would have to pay lawyers a lot of cash to rewrite contracts and terms of business, re negotiate with local authorities etc. All for the marginal gain of not pissing a few customers off. Or they could just abide by the law. Some clubs won’t, would you really want to go to a club that plays games with the law? Are they the kind of places that tend to have the correct insurance and fire risk assessments in place? The kind of places that keep their membership data secure? Must be hard enough to run a club openly without trying to bend the rules. | |||
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"It’s not naive. If the govt fails to get the legislation through the commons (which looks highly likely with Labour and Lib Dems against) it won’t be an issue. It could change to proof of a negative test. Wouldn’t be the first u-turn the govt have done recently! A lot could change before September anyway, clubs might all be closed again. " Failing to get the legislation through is one thing (although they will likely change it enough to get it passed), changing status and all that is another entirely. If clubs are open in September then I still think the only way you are getting in is if you are double jabbed. | |||
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"It’s not naive. If the govt fails to get the legislation through the commons (which looks highly likely with Labour and Lib Dems against) it won’t be an issue. It could change to proof of a negative test. Wouldn’t be the first u-turn the govt have done recently! A lot could change before September anyway, clubs might all be closed again. " Even if the legislation isn't approved by government, clubs could still have it as a condition of entry. (And good for them if they do) E | |||
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